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Ishan
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Post Number: 9276 Registered: 01-2009
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Mental_sachinodu:
Excellent posts bro. Very informative. 5 stars to all of ur posts. |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6869 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.10.73
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 08:52 pm: |     |
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Kamal
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Post Number: 27041 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 05:10 pm: |     |
Telangana_gulti:aryan sanskrit is not mother of dravidian Telugu. ask any linguist.
asalu .. mother language ani evadanna annada??? Telangana_gulti:just because found literature of sanskrit predates it doesnt make sanskrit the mother of mother of mothers of telugu or chinese or somali.
ya .. but it does make .. people who like sanskrit, like telugu, invaders .. kiki Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Post Number: 5624 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 04:22 pm: |     |
Telangana_gulti: not true. nobody is writing telugu literature today in the same style as nannaya's
Telangana_gulti:style is just a style. I can write a telugu work in any style borrowed from a writer's style belonging to any language.
not sure if we are on the same lines here.. to say no one is writing in Nannayya's style is something Im not following, if you are taking about choice of words i agree, but if you are talking grammatical structure then I do not think you are right. Consider the greatest dalit poet there is, Gurram Jashuva gari Gabbilam, supposedly the best piece of poetry ever written in contemporary/colloqiual telugu. the meter follows the same rules as any other telugu literary work. the work itself emulates the style of megasandhesam of kalidasa. Jashuva himself pointed it out, and I think it was Arudra who has written a great article about Jashuva's work and Gabbilam in specific. He dissects the literary style, and also the beauty of telugu language in his poetry. To say no contemporary poet uses the rules used by Nannayya is abit too extreme. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Post Number: 264 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 98.207.168.238
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 04:07 pm: |     |
Folks, please study my latest lesson #3
 Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Post Number: 263 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 98.207.168.238
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:34 pm: |     |
Kamal:India ane country lo .. Sanskrit last 3000 years ga exist ainattu evidences unnayi .. any other language, at best, is existing since 2000 years only .. alage .. many other languages .. are limited to particular parts of the country .. where as sanskrit was used in most parts of the country .. and still you have the guts to throw mud at others .. holy crap ..
malla kujli shuru. aryan sanskrit is not mother of dravidian Telugu. ask any linguist. just because found literature of sanskrit predates it doesnt make sanskrit the mother of mother of mothers of telugu or chinese or somali. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Post Number: 262 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 98.207.168.238
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:31 pm: |     |
Zulu:for example 'madhuram' ane word theesukunte..it is there in all four SI languages..alanti words chaala unnayi danibatti sankrit must be the binding common language for these 4 languages ane falsified theory alleyatam is very easy..
there are lots of common dravida root words too: anna, uppu, kai etc general public ki mis-information kaavachhu. australoid looking, dravida-telugu speaking chaddis ki matuku kujli ne ani naa opinion. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 27039 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:29 pm: |     |
It is suprising how people brand others as having a kujli or being misinformed .. India ane country lo .. Sanskrit last 3000 years ga exist ainattu evidences unnayi .. any other language, at best, is existing since 2000 years only .. alage .. many other languages .. are limited to particular parts of the country .. where as sanskrit was used in most parts of the country .. and still you have the guts to throw mud at others .. holy crap .. Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Post Number: 261 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 98.207.168.238
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:21 pm: |     |
Bushu:and in a much better way than you in fact. your argument is all opinion, MS bhaiyya is out there with facts.
OK. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6856 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:21 pm: |     |
Telangana_gulti:Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani.
kontha kojli valla anukovachu..but mostly because we are misinformed..we do have lot of sankrit words in dravidian languages..especially in the written form. for example 'madhuram' ane word theesukunte..it is there in all four SI languages..alanti words chaala unnayi danibatti sankrit must be the binding common language for these 4 languages ane falsified theory alleyatam is very easy.. |
   
Siloan
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Post Number: 17297 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:18 pm: |     |
 IndiaRocks(7284): But one thing is true. YSR was the worst thing to happen to our state, and society. Even educated lo corruption is a virtue anna thinking teesukochadu. IndiaRocks(7285): CBN religiously followed YSR's vision in all his policies after 2004. IndiaRocks(7340):ento, no sensible person can support YSR ani naa gatti feeling |
   
Bushu
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Post Number: 2779 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:16 pm: |     |
Telangana_gulti:but you argue in a much better than those typical chaddis.
and in a much better way than you in fact. your argument is all opinion, MS bhaiyya is out there with facts. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 27036 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:15 pm: |     |
Telangana_gulti:nannaya has chosen to write in telugu and he has not invented telugu. its just our bad luck that telugu works prior to nannaya are lost(may be because of kujli?)
 Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Post Number: 260 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 98.207.168.238
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:14 pm: |     |
Charmee relates an experience on the set that she finds unforgettable. "Both Puri Jagannath (the director) and I used to converse in Telugu. Amitabh used to say, 'No regionalism on the sets please. You guys must speak in Hindi.' However, we used to unconsciously switch to Telugu," she laughs and adds that she can't wait for the film to release. +++++++=== picchi konde amitab gaadu. ante hindi lo maatladithe regionalism kaada? ante nationalism aadi abba sotthah? amitab ante bayya gaadu. but what happened to our telugu chaddis? Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Post Number: 259 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 98.207.168.238
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:08 pm: |     |
Siloan:Anne, lesson 3 ...sammaga vundhi....
exam kuda untadhi mari. chaddis ki F grade yesi dobbutha. I pray to god that these misguided and brainwashed telugu chaddis study proper lessons and dont just come here to post crap. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Post Number: 258 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 98.207.168.238
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:04 pm: |     |
Mental_sachinodu:when Im saying literary style im not talking about the words or particular style of a writer, im talking about the rules of construction, its not just mere choice of words being used, the actual rules of sentence formation and word formation.
nannaya has chosen to write in telugu and he has not invented telugu. its just our bad luck that telugu works prior to nannaya are lost(may be because of kujli?) literary styles dont change the grammar, basic framework, essence of a language. writers like gurajada etc didnt give a damn about nannayyas style but wrote in their own common-mans style. style is just a style. I can write a telugu work in any style borrowed from a writer's style belonging to any language. the question is will maximum majority of common-men read my work and get so influenced as to alter their language itself? NO. even if it were hifi esoteric exotic poet like Nannaya. Please study my latest lesson #3, below. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. |
   
Siloan
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Post Number: 17295 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 02:58 pm: |     |
Telangana_gulti:Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani.
Anne, lesson 3 ...sammaga vundhi.... IndiaRocks(7284): But one thing is true. YSR was the worst thing to happen to our state, and society. Even educated lo corruption is a virtue anna thinking teesukochadu. IndiaRocks(7285): CBN religiously followed YSR's vision in all his policies after 2004. IndiaRocks(7340):ento, no sensible person can support YSR ani naa gatti feeling |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Post Number: 256 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 98.207.168.238
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 02:55 pm: |     |
Mental_sachinodu:before nannayya there is no historical evidence of any major literary efforts in telugu or tenugu, so to think we today are using a structure that is not related to sanskrit is purely speculation or biased.
not true. nobody is writing telugu literature today in the same style as nannaya's even it were it does not mean sanskrit is the mother of telugu or sanskrit has significantly telugu 'as a language perse' How many common men read nannayas hifi esoteric works? thereby leading to significant change in real telugu? Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Post Number: 255 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 98.207.168.238
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 02:51 pm: |     |
Folks, please study my latest lesson #3
 Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Post Number: 254 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 98.207.168.238
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 02:50 pm: |     |
Zulu:..emanna ante moorkhuda nee interpretation thappu ani you can always hide behind 'interpretation' ramayanam lo arun govil kakunda rajnikanth ni ettalsindi ramudu black aithey lol
 Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. |
   
Cocanada
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Post Number: 31898 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 11:40 am: |     |
Zulu:ramayanam lo arun govil kakunda rajnikanth ni ettalsindi ramudu black aithey lol
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Zulu
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Post Number: 6849 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 11:30 am: |     |
Vjavasi:Rama & Ravana both of them black...
mee istam vochinattu cheppandayya puranalu..ramudu black..krishnudu black..ravanudu black..antha blackey..emanna ante moorkhuda nee interpretation thappu ani you can always hide behind 'interpretation' ramayanam lo arun govil kakunda rajnikanth ni ettalsindi ramudu black aithey lol |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Post Number: 5623 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 10:57 am: |     |
Telangana_gulti:literary style is invalid argument here.
ok, eee post ippude choosa.. literary style has a lot do to understand the dynamics of telugu language and influence of sanskrit, and for the misconception about telugu being derived from sanskrit claims. before nannayya there is no historical evidence of any major literary efforts in telugu or tenugu, so to think we today are using a structure that is not related to sanskrit is purely speculation or biased. Im talking literature though, which preserved the language the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 27006 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 10:39 am: |     |
Vjavasi:...chana simple kochen....Rama & Ravana both of them black...if aryans are white and from iran why seetha calls Rama aryaputra?.....I have seen number of black brahmins in andhra desham.....dravida indicates only region not race and arya is also not a race word it means a noble person.....
aipoyaaav .. Vjavasi:having said that india is an amalgamation of different races from millions of years with lineages coming from surya, chandra, saptarshis and other great personalities...
aa .. kudaradu .. kondaru natives .. kondaru invaders anthe .. appude natakam rakti kadutundi .. Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6846 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 10:34 am: |     |
Telangana_gulti:
sopathi anna, just wanted give a shoutout and say I am big fan of your posts..meeru control thappakunda civil ga posts vesthey db members will have a lot to learn(those who have their eyes open..ofcourse). |
   
Vjavasi
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 10:16 am: |     |
...chana simple kochen....Rama & Ravana both of them black...if aryans are white and from iran why seetha calls Rama aryaputra?.....I have seen number of black brahmins in andhra desham.....dravida indicates only region not race and arya is also not a race word it means a noble person.....having said that india is an amalgamation of different races from millions of years with lineages coming from surya, chandra, saptarshis and other great personalities... |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Post Number: 5620 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 09:38 am: |     |
Telangana_gulti:a literary style is just a style. and those styles keep changing with time.
annai, when Im saying literary style im not talking about the words or particular style of a writer, im talking about the rules of construction, its not just mere choice of words being used, the actual rules of sentence formation and word formation. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Jawmetri
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 08:24 am: |     |
Telangana_gulti:but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani.
endhukantey http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/regional/ne ws-interviews/No-Telugu-on-the-sets-Amitabh-to-Charmme/artic leshow/9014804.cms |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Post Number: 253 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 98.207.168.238
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Mental_sachinodu:we can see the evolution the literary style... from Nannaya to subsequent telugu poets.
a literary style is just a style. and those styles keep changing with time. atla ante 19th century lo many telugu works were written based on european literary styles that existed during that time. does that make english a mother of telugu? Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Post Number: 252 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 98.207.168.238
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:25 am: |     |
Mental_sachinodu:you will see alot of sanskrit literary style.
sanskrit itself might have multiple literary styles. just a literary style of poet does not convey anything about fundamental relationships between languages. if an arabic poet shares a literary style with a telugu poet, its just the individual style of that arabic poet and it ends there. atla ante jaanapadha works unnaayi, numerous other poets works unnaayi with 0 influence of sanskritic styles. literary style is invalid argument here. but you argue in a much better way than those typical chaddis. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Post Number: 251 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 98.207.168.238
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:24 am: |     |
Mental_sachinodu:you will see alot of sanskrit literary style.
sanskrit itself might have multiple literary styles. just a literary style of poet does not convey anything about fundamental relationships between languages. if an arabic poet shares a literary style with a telugu poet, its just the individual style of that arabic poet and it ends there. atla ante jaanapadha works unnaayi, numerous other poets works unnaayi with 0 influence of sanskritic styles. literary style is invalid argument here. but you argue in a much better than those typical chaddis. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Post Number: 5619 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 98.173.102.27
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Telangana_gulti: for ex: poets like pothana/vemana reduced unnecessary sanskrit loan word usage in their works.
antha simplistic view tho choodatam kashtam anukunta. if you consider veerabadhra vijayam of pothana, which is very much modeled based on vayu purana, you will see alot of sanskrit literary style. and if we look at Bhogini Dhandakam, it is a complete telugu dandakam, probably the first telugu dandakam. we can see the evolution the literary style... from Nannaya to subsequent telugu poets. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
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but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani.
 Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Mental_sachinodu: and based on Nannaya's works who is titled Vaganusasana - the one who commands words, the first poet in telugu literature we can understand how sanskrit influenced telugu literature.
a particular literature style is different from evolution and essence of language. Yes some of the sanskrit styles might have influenced Nannayas style of writing and it ends there. Telugu has many poets and writers each having their own distinctive styles of narration and composition. for ex: poets like pothana/vemana reduced unnecessary sanskrit loan word usage in their works. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Telangana_gulti: agreed. not just sanskrit,but english, arabic, urdu, hindi loan words have also infiltrated telugu.
again sanksrit's influence on telugu is just loan words anedhi kooda correct kadhu ani naa udhesam. we all understand that language is older than literature and the basis for sanskrit having an important impact on telugu language is due to the literary efforts and the structure of literature that is developed ani naa udhesam. Pre Nannaya period telugu literature is almost non existent according to existing historical evidences. and based on Nannaya's works who is titled Vaganusasana - the one who commands words, the first poet in telugu literature we can understand how sanskrit influenced telugu literature. even the first telugu grammar descriptions Andra Sabdha Chintamani is written in sanksrit(not in other dravidian languages), while pre nannaya period there were kannadiga poets who were already working on mahabaratha based on jain philosophies. Nannayya's work also uses the lesser known sanskrit meters, like uthpalamala, sardhula, champakamala in telugu ... which are almost non existent in other sanskrit or its derived poetry adding them exclusively to telugu meter. It is not until Tikkanna continue the work of Nannayya, a clear distinction between telugu and sanskrit literature has emerged, and hence his title ubhaya kavi mitra. Like i said earlier, purely from literary perspective sanksrit and telugu have been intertwined according to existing historical texts. i believe this is the reason for most people opinion or misconception that telugu is derived from sanskrit. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
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but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani.
 Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Mental_sachinodu:agreed, but sanskrit has been part of telugu for a considerable period of time, more than a thousand years, anedhi kooda fact ee
agreed. not just sanskrit,but english, arabic, urdu, hindi loan words have also infiltrated telugu. even sanskrit has dravidian loan words in it. does that make sanskrit a dravidian language? loan words phenomenon is common through out the world. loan words do not change the essence or family of the language. kaani ikkada chaddis, sanskrit is mother of telugu ani cuttings isthaaru. hindi is the only national language ani cuttings isthaaru. sanskrit/aryans originated in sub-continent ani cuttings isthaaru. asuvanti chaddis ki nenu against and I will counter them with facts. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Telangana_gulti:Sanskrit is not native to subcontinent because it developed outside. Telugu is dravidian tongue has got nothing to do with Aryan sanskrit. Things like these are facts.
agreed, but sanskrit has been part of telugu for a considerable period of time, more than a thousand years, anedhi kooda fact ee.. to me it is not entirely true to say telugu and sanksrit are not related. they were not related once, but not today and not in the recent history. the known first telugu word is "Nagabu", which is not even colloquial/literarily used anymore antha transfromation vachindhi language lo. instead of encouraging to learn the history of languages, ilanti arguments valla entha mandhiki upayogam, the more people study about history of languages, the more chaddis can be made bare  the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
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Mental_sachinodu:
correct. US lo red-indians are considered natives. But that doesnt mean somebody is oppressors or something in todays context. Agreed. Sanskrit is not native to subcontinent because it developed outside. Telugu is dravidian tongue has got nothing to do with Aryan sanskrit. Things like these are facts. Chaddi gaanlu vacchi aah memu aryans aah telugu came from sanskrit aah sanskrit/aryans originated in India and spread outside influencing other aryans and aryan languages ante counter isthunnam anthe. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Telangana_gulti:australia lo australoids natives kaada? srilanka lo veddoids(australoids) natives kaada? andamaan lo negroids natives kaada?
native meaning endhi eeda.. ante akkada form ayina single ninsi evolve ayyaara.. punt intended like you said everybody is in immigranted, native is a relative word and so are the evolutionary mechanics of languages and cultures. potraying one as the invader and the other as helpless who succumbed to the invaders is purely political. ofcourse, eee discussions oka thousands times ayyaayi... mana madhya.. if we only could solve the riddle through this DB  the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
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Cocanada:Telangana-Gulti thammud Also, please post the species of Meher Ramesh
aadu yevadu? inko chaddi gaada? Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Cocanada:option 2 sounds more logical to me because south east asia lo ekkkkadaa nalla manushulu undaru. Nallollu indian natives ayye chance ledu. They are immigrants from Africa
south east asia ki sub continent ki yenti link? australia lo australoids natives kaada? srilanka lo veddoids(australoids) natives kaada? andamaan lo negroids natives kaada? black color lone 3-4 races unnaayi? do you know that? atla ante everybody everywhere is immigrant from africa since the first homosapien evolved there. oh chaddilu yeskoni vacchesthaaraya. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Cocanada:how do you know these people are natives and Kamal is not?
where did I say kamal is not native? aah nenu aryan aah nenu chaddi ante counter isthunna anthe. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Telangana-Gulti thammud Also, please post the species of Meher Ramesh Ee madhya andau "manishivaa..meher ramesh vaa" ani tidutunnaru. When contacted,the producer of Hara Hara Mahadeva, Bellamkonda Suresh vehemently denied that these posters are copied. Ala ela antaaru meeru (How can you say such a thing), he exclaimed.We never did such a thing,we got a photo shoot done, insisted Suresh. |
   
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Cocanada: Nallollu indian natives ayye chance ledu. They are immigrants from Africa
baa...swarnakamalam lo srilakshmi-sakshirangarao couple laa...24*7 harathi isthe,,,,??? asale Damilulaki bhagdi romba jaasdi... IndiaRocks(7284): But one thing is true. YSR was the worst thing to happen to our state, and society. Even educated lo corruption is a virtue anna thinking teesukochadu. IndiaRocks(7285): CBN religiously followed YSR's vision in all his policies after 2004. IndiaRocks(7340):ento, no sensible person can support YSR ani naa gatti feeling |
   
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Telangana_gulti:caucasoids
Telangana_gulti:australoids
enti babu ivannee how do you know these people are natives and Kamal is not? thellaga unde vallu europe ninchi ochaaru anukune baduku nallollu africa ninchi ochaar anukovachu ga option 2 sounds more logical to me because south east asia lo ekkkkadaa nalla manushulu undaru. Nallollu indian natives ayye chance ledu. They are immigrants from Africa When contacted,the producer of Hara Hara Mahadeva, Bellamkonda Suresh vehemently denied that these posters are copied. Ala ela antaaru meeru (How can you say such a thing), he exclaimed.We never did such a thing,we got a photo shoot done, insisted Suresh. |
   
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Kamal:zulesh emo iran ki po antannad ..
inka ikkadey unnava..iran poo eheh..neeku ahmahenazad chethilo ithadey. |
   
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Telangana_gulti:
http://www.timescontent.com/tss/photos/preview/138887/Vijayk anth.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vvU6-9iR7_Q/TXTYwhRHLXI/AAAAAAAAAF 0/9MVeH7BlUCA/s1600/hema-malini-36f.jpg are the above two from the same race? All the below South Indians are Dravidians? Hema Malini Vidya Balan Meenakshi Seshadri Vyjayanthimala Meera Vasudevan Trisha Krishnan Rekha Saritha Suhasini Sukanya Jayalalithaa |
   
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Sindhooram:r u kallis?
aa kallis gore dora .. zulesh emo iran ki po antannad .. ticket konabothunte .. gultesh vassi .. australoid antannadu .. ante australia ki sambandinchina vallama? aa ashtonesh emo .. meedi eurofe antaad .. evadu corresto ardam kaatalled teeramekkado .. gamyamemito .. teliyadu papam ..  Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
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Sindhooram:
alo alo alo alo ramanatham gara? etta unnaru ? I'm not a kurradu  |
   
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australoid ee word funny ga undhi |
   
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Zulu:aithey urgent ga iran poo..
r u kallis? Pavala, h r u? i am fine.. "karmaNyE vaadhikaarastE maaphalEshu kadaachanaa..maa karma phala hEturbhuhu maatE sangostva karmanee" -- karmalanu aacharinchunTa yendE neeku adhikaaramunnadi kaanii vaani phalitamu paina lEdu.neevu karma phalamunaku kaaraNamu kaaraadu aTlani karmalanu chEyuTa maanaraadu |
   
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Telangana_gulti:as a group, only upper-caste north-western belt Indians have more of aryan features.
yes this is true, whatever south indian chaddi party members think about their brain washed ideologies. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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http://static.ibnlive.com/pix/slideshow/01-2011/our-pick-the /rajpal_yadav_jan4.jpg here is a north indian with tribal australoid features. as a group, only upper-caste north-western belt Indians have more of aryan features. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Zulu: denemma paruvu theesidobbav kada..
konchem athi jesina le for effect. but my lesson#2 is correct mama. color is not the criteria here. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Telangana_gulti: http://www.telugupedia.com/wiki/images/d/d8/Babumohan.jpg A pure telugu tribal australoid but who also speaks dravida telugu.
denemma paruvu theesidobbav kada..
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Zulu:antha scene ledu..commonman ni choose chepthuna.. idedo memey fure dravidans ani tamilians puttinchina story la undi..reverse racism annattu.
ledu mama. naa experience different ga undhi when I observed common men from both AP and TN. color is not the criteria here. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/shurikenjay/tamilman. jpg A pure tamil dravida caucasoid who speaks dravida tamil http://www.telugupedia.com/wiki/images/d/d8/Babumohan.jpg A pure telugu tribal australoid but who also speaks dravida telugu. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Telangana_gulti: there are more vijays in AP compared to TN there are more suryas in TN compared to AP.
antha scene ledu..commonman ni choose chepthuna.. idedo memey fure dravidans ani tamilians puttinchina story la undi..reverse racism annattu. |
   
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Kamal:natives of chittoor should be different from natives of srikakulam or adilabad .. by appearance .. untara?
as a group yes. KKR has typical pure dravidian tamil looks. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Zulu:a typical tamilian looks like a parthiban/prabhu deva/vijay sappidi mukku dark to brownish color..curly hair etc.. surya features unna tamils chala thukkuva..
there are more vijays in AP compared to TN there are more suryas in TN compared to AP. Just heroes ni compare jesthe yetla? common man in compare jeyyaale. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Ruj:aryan dravidian theory peddha buss ehe..
just because we became heterogenic hybrids, it doesnt mean that theory is bussu. telugu is dravidian language and has nothing to do with aryan sanskrit. dont worry, although telugus speak dravida telugu, they are racially more close to the tribals/australoids.
 Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Ruj:aryan dravidian theory peddha buss ehe..
just because we became heterogenic hybrids, it doesnt mean that theor is bussu. telugu is dravidian language and has nothing to do with aryan sanskrit. dont worry, although telugus speak dravida telugu, they are racially more close to the tribals/australoids.
 Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 08:26 pm: |     |
Kamal: maa family lo kondarini aryan .. kondarini dravidian ani declaring of dakota sesi dobbutunnaru ikkada ..
most telugus are racially more australoid, but they speak dravidian telugu. dravidians are sharp featured black/brown caucasoids. see my lesson #2 below. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3580 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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Senapathy:Sell me this theory..
Ishan: interesting...
Ruj:ramayan happened when man was transitioning from monkey.. jokes apart...
comedy ki annanu adhi.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Senapathy
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Post Number: 5062 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 137.131.212.40
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:53 pm: |     |
Ruj:ramayan happened when man was transitioning from monkey.
Sell me this theory.. I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza |
   
Ishan
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Post Number: 9262 Registered: 01-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:36 pm: |     |
Ruj:ramayan happened when man was transitioning from monkey.
interesting... |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3578 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:31 pm: |     |
Zulu:nenannadi nee facecut di kadu bootcut di..kallu theripinchav kada..dannam ettukundam ani
rao goru..edho naa personal opinion ani odileyandi.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Ishan
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Post Number: 9261 Registered: 01-2009
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Getafix: i thought Vaishnavism started in tamil nadu.
concrete evidence ledu kaani its highly unlikely. Vishnu was first mentioned in rig-veda as a great ally to indra...he was not considered as supreme god at that time...most of the vaishnavism boom happened in post-vedic times...but agamic religions were as old as vedas...and they talk about shiva and shakthi...so vaishnavism origins north lo jarigindi...ofcourse it has spread rampantly in to south later...vaishnavites and shaivites have done everything in their power to popularize their beliefs...htats why u see their uniform distribution currently... |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3577 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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Ruj:aa timeki kothulu ekkada unnayi.
i mean semi kothi and semi man.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3576 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:30 pm: |     |
Ishan:idi neekettaa telso naaku urgent gaa teliyaali...yes i am asking that.
aryan migration 4000BC lo jarigindhi anukunte...aa timeki kothulu ekkada unnayi.. ramayan happened when man was transitioning from monkey.. jokes apart..vivaralu sariga gurthu levu bhayya..just conclusion gurtundhi.. ..kaani appatlo bane research chesaa deeni meedha...konchem time dorikinapudu malli tavvi info pampistha.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6823 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:26 pm: |     |
Ruj:rao garu eti mee ragging..naakantha scene illio..avg ga unta ante..
nenannadi nee facecut di kadu bootcut di..kallu theripinchav kada..dannam ettukundam ani
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Ruj
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Post Number: 3575 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:24 pm: |     |
Zulu:ruj, sarle..inka na valla kadu kani, foto pampadam marchipoku.
rao garu eti mee ragging..naakantha scene illio..avg ga unta ante.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6821 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
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ruj, sarle..inka na valla kadu kani, foto pampadam marchipoku. |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3574 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:22 pm: |     |
Zulu:blunt nose ki ferfect example is nagarjuna..ironically the the manmadhudu of TFI. nuvvu edi padithey adi blunt anesthunnav..doubt ledu nuvvu alien vey.
state dhati nagarjuna ni manmadhudu anna oka medhavi example ivvu.. handsome ante navvutharu nag ni state bayata..it is just a relative comparision with in the state..ee chettu leni chota thaati chette minna anattu.. ayya nenu edi padithey adhi blunt ekkada anna..mahesh babu okadine ga annadhi..his eyes,nose edhi standout avvadu..but he as a complete package looks good.. aiwarya rai one more example of sharp features...kevalam kallu chaalu keka anthe..
Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
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Post Number: 10953 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 167.83.101.22
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:20 pm: |     |
manam aryan aite enti, dravidian aite enti hair ki gel edite enti, kobbari peechu lekka odilte enti thick accent unte enti, lekunte enti end of the day - we are desis..nasty desis.......in this country |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6820 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
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Ruj:
blunt nose ki ferfect example is nagarjuna..ironically the the manmadhudu of TFI. nuvvu edi padithey adi blunt anesthunnav..doubt ledu nuvvu alien vey. |
   
Ishan
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Ruj: ok..ramayan took place much much before so called aryan migration.
idi neekettaa telso naaku urgent gaa teliyaali...yes i am asking that. |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3573 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:13 pm: |     |
Zulu:bokka la undi nee argument..sharp features ante good looks antav enti..ante sharp features lekapothey looking bad ana..
sharp features enhance beauty and vice versa..that is the truth.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6819 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:12 pm: |     |
Ruj:telugu valalo telugolani polchesukuni sharp ani untaru..konchem chappidi mukku and pedha swaramga margam la untundhi aa mukku..konchem hair style marusthe andham antha dobbe mohalani sharp features anaru..gundu kottina kooda andam ga untaru choodu..valu sharp features ante..beacause their beauty shows up because of facial features..no so sharp features olaki hair style nundi skin color varaku anni set avvali to make them look good....mana telugu verolo hair style marusthe 50% padipodhi andham
bokka la undi nee argument ..sharp features ante good looks antav enti..ante sharp features lekapothey looking bad ana.. you lost ur argument amma..you lost amma..anthey. |
   
Ishan
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Post Number: 9259 Registered: 01-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:10 pm: |     |
Ruj: mahesh babu picha fair..but features r blunt..sharp features ante hrithik roshan, sonu sood, arjun rampal etc vi..
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Zulu
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Post Number: 6818 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:08 pm: |     |
Kamal:aithe .. nenu aryan ne .. no doubt ..
aithey urgent ga iran poo.. |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3572 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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Zulu:nee tenki ley..maheshbob has sharp features http://www.iwebie.com/varudu-telugu-movie-mahesh-babu maa vollo danni koteresina mukku (ante sharp nose) antaru..nuvvu yada nundi vochavo..alien vemo ani doubt ga undi.
telugu valalo telugolani polchesukuni sharp ani untaru..konchem chappidi mukku and pedha swaramga margam la untundhi aa mukku..konchem hair style marusthe andham antha dobbe mohalani sharp features anaru..gundu kottina kooda andam ga untaru choodu..valu sharp features ante..beacause their beauty shows up because of facial features..no so sharp features olaki hair style nundi skin color varaku anni set avvali to make them look good....mana telugu verolo hair style marusthe 50% padipodhi andham Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 26894 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:08 pm: |     |
Zulu: maa vollo danni koteresina mukku (ante sharp nose) antaru..nuvvu yada nundi vochavo..alien vemo ani doubt ga undi.
aithe .. nenu aryan ne .. no doubt .. Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6817 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:05 pm: |     |
Ruj:mahesh babu picha fair..but features r blunt..sharp features ante hrithik roshan, sonu sood, arjun rampal etc vi..
nee tenki ley..maheshbob has sharp features http://www.iwebie.com/varudu-telugu-movie-mahesh-babu maa vollo danni koteresina mukku (ante sharp nose) antaru..nuvvu yada nundi vochavo..alien vemo ani doubt ga undi. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 26893 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:04 pm: |     |
Ruj: hey uu..r u fair or dark..aryan or dravidian..
aa kochens enduku le tammi .. maa family lo kondarini aryan .. kondarini dravidian ani declaring of dakota sesi dobbutunnaru ikkada .. chi .. Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3571 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:03 pm: |     |
Zulu:bayya maheshbob vi blunt featuresaa? nee padalu foto theesi pampava..fleez..krishna vi kooda blunt featuresey na?
mahesh babu picha fair..but features r blunt..sharp features ante hrithik roshan, sonu sood, arjun rampal etc vi.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3570 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:02 pm: |     |
Zulu:thella color pichi aithey thelupu cheyyali kani blue cheyyadam enti? nenoppukonu
ante bilak ni white sethe wrong representation.anduke oka understanding ki vachi dark ante ash ante adhe dark blue ante adhele blue ani adjust sesi sruthilo kalipesar.... Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6816 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
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Ruj:
bayya maheshbob vi blunt featuresaa? nee padalu foto theesi pampava..fleez..krishna vi kooda blunt featuresey na? |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3569 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:01 pm: |     |
Ashton:He was originally an Aryan. As he got bitten by a snake, he turned blue in complexion.
ok..ramayan took place much much before so called aryan migration..so now is ram aryan or dravidian?? Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6815 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 06:59 pm: |     |
Ruj:india lo tella color pichi modhalu ayyaka krishna ni blue chesar
thella color pichi aithey thelupu cheyyali kani blue cheyyadam enti? nenoppukonu
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Ashton
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Post Number: 12031 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 64.20.45.178
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Ruj: lord krishna was dark..is he an aryan or dravidian?
He was originally an Aryan. As he got bitten by a snake, he turned blue in complexion. |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3568 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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Kamal:
hey uu..r u fair or dark..aryan or dravidian.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3567 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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Zulu:
all original krishna statues/paitings historically were dark/ash colored..ee 18th century nundi..india lo tella color pichi modhalu ayyaka krishna ni blue chesar Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 26892 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 06:57 pm: |     |
 Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3566 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 06:56 pm: |     |
Zulu:bulugu color kada..alien ayyuntadu.
bulugu anedhi poetic representation..actual ga ayithe dark/ash color..rain appudu clouds untayi aa color Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6814 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 06:55 pm: |     |
Ruj:lord krishna was dark..is he an aryan or dravidian?
bulugu color kada..alien ayyuntadu. |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3565 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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Ashton:
nuvvu fix ayipoyav..ala kaaniyi.. lord krishna was dark..is he an aryan or dravidian? Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Ashton
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Post Number: 12030 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 64.20.45.178
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 06:52 pm: |     |
Mahesh babu is Aryan, so do Ranbir Kapoor. |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3564 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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Ruj:anthropometryki
anthropology Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3563 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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mongoloids,caucasoid,australoids madyalo kooda aryan dravidian kalipesara..aryan invasion- dravidian theory is just a racial theory made out of skin color and language..daniki ki anthropometryki (based on which above division i.e capoids,mongoloids etc was made) sambandham ledu.. aslau aryan ane race undi anukunaa adhi caucasoid lo oka part ani mana racial feeling muddhu biddal britain german eppudo selavicharu.. aryan dravidian theory peddha buss ehe.. btw aryan ani oka chinna tribe undedhi mahabharata timelo..it is one among hundreds of tribes present in indian sub continent at that time.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
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Ashton:The Indo-Iranians (often self-identifying as "Aryans") form a primary branch of the Indo-European peoples. Their expansion eastward and southward across the Eurasian steppe is strongly associated with the Proto-Indo-European invention of the spoke-wheeled chariot (Sanskrit rátha, Avestan raøa). The earliest fully developed chariots known are from the chariot burials of the Andronovo (Timber-Grave) sites in the northern Eurasian steppe, belonging to the Sintashta-Petrovka culture, which shows strong links to cultures further west. It built heavily fortified settlements, engaged in bronze metallurgy on a scale hitherto unprecedented and practised complex burial rituals reminiscent of rituals known from Indo-Iranian sources such as the Rigveda. The Andronovo culture over the next few centuries spreads across the steppes from the Urals eastwards to the Tien Shan, likely corresponding to early Indo-Iranian cultures which eventually spread to Iran and India in the course of the 2nd millennium BCE. The standard model for the entry of the Indo-European languages into South Asia is that this first wave went over the Hindu Kush, into the headwaters of the Indus and taking control of the declining Indus cities, and later spreading along the Ganges. The earliest stratum of Vedic Sanskrit, preserved in the Rigveda, is assigned to roughly 1500 BCE. From the Indus, the Indo-Aryan languages spread from c. 1500 BCE to c. 500 BCE, over the northern and central parts of the subcontinent, sparing the extreme south. The Indo-Aryans in these areas established several powerful kingdoms and principalities in the region, from eastern Afghanistan to the doorstep of Bengal. The most powerful of these kingdoms were the post-Rigvedic Kuru (in Kurukshetra and the Delhi area) and their allies the Pañc�las further east, as well as Gandhara and later on, the kingdom of Kosala and the quickly expanding realm of Magadha. The latter lasted until the 4th century BCE, when it was conquered by Chandragupta Maurya and formed the center of the Mauryan empire. Nuristani languages are generally regarded as an independent group, as one of the three sub-groups of Indo-Iranian. The languages are spoken by tribal peoples in an extremely isolated mountainous region of the Hindu Kush. They are a people whose ancestors practised what was apparently an ancient Indo-Iranian polytheistic religion until they were conquered and converted to Islam in the late 19th century. They sometimes exhibit physical characteristics of light hair, eyes, and skin. In eastern Afghanistan and southwestern Pakistan, whatever Indo-Aryan languages were spoken there were eventually pushed out by the Iranic peoples, who form the third sub-group of Indo-Iranian. The Medes, Parthians and Persians begin to appear in modern Iran for the first time from ca. 800 BCE, and the Achaemenids replaced Elamite rule from 559 BCE. During the 1st millennium CE, the Iranian Pashtuns and Baloch began to settle on the eastern edge of the Iranian plateau, on the mountainous frontier of northwestern and western Pakistan, displacing the earlier Indo-Aryans from the area. East Iranic peoples continued to dominate the steppes until the Mongol and Turkic expansion of the Middle Ages.
malla modalu pettinava tammi In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
   
Senapathy
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Post Number: 5038 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 137.131.212.40
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Zulu:Isnt that the reason for being genetically close?
No.. People migrating from Africa for the first time populated Europe and Middle East.. Anduke genetic markers are closer for them.. Also, homo sapiens might have inbred with other hominids to branch out further.. I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza |
   
Senapathy
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Post Number: 5037 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 137.131.212.40
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Zulu:
I meant black people originating from Africa. Inka ikkada coupling aithey they have a different markers and a new story. But note that they are not too different genetically then lets say Indians or Hmong I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza |
   
Getafix
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Post Number: 8773 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
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Ishan:bhayya...aryans brought vaishnavism to india and native indians worshipped shiva ani kooda vundi oka theory....
nijama bro.. i thought Vaishnavism started in tamil nadu. vasihanivism popular jesina Ramanuja charya and all alwars were local to TN kada. Vishnu temples kuda chusthe south lo unnanni north lo ayithe undavu anukuntunna.. North lo Ram and Krishna rules anthe. |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6796 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 01:57 pm: |     |
Senapathy:An African American is genetically closer to the caucasian "race" in Europe than to anybody else. Now that comes as a surprise.
baa..are you talking AA or african? I am not completely surprised,..because from what i read most of AA s in this country have some white blood..bcoz of coupling main dhad dhads that happened during slavry..Isnt that the reason for being genetically close? E desam lo balck ki defination..'u r a balck if u have evan have one drop of balck blood' (for the purposes of affirmative action..etc)..ani wiki lo sadiva. |
   
Senapathy
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Post Number: 5030 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 137.131.212.40
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Zulu:
Baa.. Race as we see today is primarily based on physical appearance and is more or less confined to people originating from a certain geographic entity. The color of our sin is basically a response to the sun light and the genetic makeup to suit ourselves for that.. Genetics tell a different story. It speaks more of lineage than of race. The lineage is determined by certain genetic markers (Primarily mutations) that are passed on to the next generation which will pass it on to next. So the markers are a better identity of who our forefathers are. In this aspect, the identity of race is dissoved - An African American is genetically closer to the caucasian "race" in Europe than to anybody else. Now that comes as a surprise. Also, all homo sapiens race melts down to Africa and the classification of entire human race to 2 or 3 categories is a misnomer and just for convenience of physical identification.. I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 26864 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
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Zulu: ani evadannadu sata bharatham rasav?
gultannai eti seppado soodi koosintha ... Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
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Kamal:if tamils/telugus have distinct colors ..
ani evadannadu sata bharatham rasav? |
   
Kamal
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Zulu:ohinchani malupu..
 Zulu:but south mix,north mix,east mix, west mix ki kontha theda undi..upper caste mix ki lower caste mix ki kontha theda undi anipisthadi naku..
sure .. east lo unte oka laaga .. north lo unte oka laaga untaru janalu anukuntunna .. example .. maa intlo oka 50 years back Delhi migrate aina distant relatives unnaru .. couple iddaru telugu vaalle .. valla pillalu akkade puttaru akkade chaduvukunnaru .. now married to .. delhi born& brought up .. telugus .. cut seste .. alla pillalu .. punjabi pillala untaru .. mari how was that possible? and a telugus are fair .. tamils are dark kind of sodhi kuda .. does not go well with me .. on average .. all of skins exist in telugu and tamil lands .. no this way or that way .. and yeah .. if tamils/telugus have distinct colors .. natives of chittoor should be different from natives of srikakulam or adilabad .. by appearance .. untara? Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
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Zulu:surya features unna tamils chala thukkuva..
joorya.....migrated..settled...delungu sodarud ani vinna IndiaRocks(7284): But one thing is true. YSR was the worst thing to happen to our state, and society. Even educated lo corruption is a virtue anna thinking teesukochadu. IndiaRocks(7285): CBN religiously followed YSR's vision in all his policies after 2004. IndiaRocks(7340):ento, no sensible person can support YSR ani naa gatti feeling |
   
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Raman:naaku telsi manavi anni jatulu mixed e ee mixturelo malli originality undi ani seppuku tiragadam moorkhatvam tappa veremi kaadu
mixturey brother..andulo doubt ledu, 500 years mixing jarigitheney evaru ento cheppaleru..for example in brazil..white.black..native population mixing ayyi rakarakalu ga untaru janalu. mana mixing oka 3-4 thousand years nundi jaruguthundi. but south mix,north mix,east mix, west mix ki kontha theda undi..upper caste mix ki lower caste mix ki kontha theda undi anipisthadi naku..again agenda post kadu..just interest ilanti vati meeda anthey. |
   
Raman
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Zulu:surya features unna tamils chala thukkuva..
anduke kada kiki annanu ... akkada sharp fetures anedi okalla sothukaadu anni Indialo vargalalonu ee features untayi .. edo chinese japanese ante tappa .. naaku telsi manavi anni jatulu mixed e ee mixturelo malli originality undi ani seppuku tiragadam moorkhatvam tappa veremi kaadu  |
   
Zulu
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ayina..tamilians sharp features endi saami a typical tamilian looks like a parthiban/prabhu deva/vijay sappidi mukku dark to brownish color..curly hair etc.. surya features unna tamils chala thukkuva.. |
   
Ishan
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Thelegend:
actually there is some archeological evidence too...the most ancient god statues found in harappa were of rudra. Vaishnavism post-vedic times lo prominence ki vachindi... shaktism is also as old as shaivism or even older...and native in origin ani bhi antaaru (Message edited by ishan on June 27, 2011) |
   
Raman
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Ishan:bhayya...aryans brought vaishnavism to india and native indians worshipped shiva ani kooda vundi oka theory....
ante aa theory adishankara charyaki teleedu ani naa kavi bhavam  |
   
Thelegend
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Ishan:aryans brought vaishnavism to india and native indians worshipped shiva ani kooda vundi oka theory....
Shiva loving Vaishnav hating folk probably loved this theory  |
   
Ishan
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Raman:asla aryan endi dravidian endi? Adi shankara time lo ee sidddantam ledu AIT ledu so nee question valid kaadu there were shiva and vaishnava wars apart from occassional Turka invasions along with budhist Vs Hindu wars
bhayya...aryans brought vaishnavism to india and native indians worshipped shiva ani kooda vundi oka theory.... |
   
Thelegend
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Raman:asla aryan endi dravidian endi?
satha koti panikirani out dated theories lo adhi okati anuko  |
   
Raman
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Thelegend:
royalty kattu naa line use seskunnanduku .. BTW Ramarao had lot of aryan features andukane god role ki saripoyyevadu .. J/K asla aryan endi dravidian endi? Adi shankara time lo ee sidddantam ledu AIT ledu so nee question valid kaadu there were shiva and vaishnava wars apart from occassional Turka invasions along with budhist Vs Hindu wars  |
   
Thelegend
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Hindus lo "aryan supremacists" feeling unnolla ki oka Q without Aadhi Sankaracharya Hindu matham emayyedi? |
   
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Zulu:ohinchani malupu..australoid languages enti?
languages in jharkhand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munda_languages Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Woodpecker:north india all aryans south india all dravidians ani chapathis assumption
those chapatis are wrong. only northwestern india has a higher aryan proportion and that too among upper castes. rest of north india also has significant australoid proportion, next dravidian and least aryan proportion. ex: mayawathi, rajpal yadav etc Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
Zulu
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Telangana_gulti:good thing is that our australoid brothers in jharkhand are still speaking our australoid tongues. they have not shifted to dravida toungues.
ohinchani malupu..australoid languages enti?
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Telangana_gulti
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Kamal:
yes telugus are racially lesser aryans and lesser dravidians. ever wondered why people from south-tamilnadu are dark(black/brown) and have razor sharp features with piercing big eyes? cuz they are pure dravida caucasoids. good thing is that our australoid brothers in jharkhand are still speaking our australoid tongues. they have not shifted to dravida toungues. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
Woodpecker
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north india all aryans south india all dravidians ani chapathis assumption |
   
Raman
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Telangana_gulti:surya is dravidian(brown with sharp features).
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Telangana_gulti
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Kamal:
truth is bitter. aryans and dravidians are both caucasoids with color difference. india has 2 more components: australoids and mongoloids. racially telugus have more australoid(tribal) component than aryan, dravidian & mongoloid components. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
Ishan
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Telangana_gulti
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Thelegend:inthaki manam aryanas aa dravidians aa cheppandi once n for all?
telugus are lesser aryans than say punjabis. telugus are lesser dravidians than say tamils. white or black we are more of australoids(tribals) with blunt features. but we telugus speak a dravidian tongue. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
Zulu
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Ashton
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Telangana_gulti:Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features.
perfect thammi... But, only upper castes in AP has got more fair skinned aryan australoid feautures.. |
   
Thelegend
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inthaki manam aryanas aa dravidians aa cheppandi once n for all? |
   
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sindhu..h r u...ekkada kill innaallu JAgan walla evadu nastapole wadikunna kodhi pati telivi right way lo invest chesadu - gootle guruji (for more fun...see his post 140008) |
   
Kamal
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 Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Ruj:maheshbabu though very fair, his features r blunt...he has a very blunt nose...but surya features r sharp..ippudu evadu aryan evadu dravidian..
surya is dravidian(brown with sharp features). maheshbabu is australoid(tribal) with blunt features. chaddi party is aryan. mamathakka is mongoloid. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
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Gatha/Aestha ani mundhu okka kurrodu IBDB lo tirigevadu.. idhi soosadante kurrodu vachi ikkada kummesthadu..lol!!!! "karmaNyE vaadhikaarastE maaphalEshu kadaachanaa..maa karma phala hEturbhuhu maatE sangostva karmanee" -- karmalanu aacharinchunTa yendE neeku adhikaaramunnadi kaanii vaani phalitamu paina lEdu.neevu karma phalamunaku kaaraNamu kaaraadu aTlani karmalanu chEyuTa maanaraadu |
   
Telangana_gulti
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i also have some relatives who are dark as coal and have more aborginal kind of features. +++++ fair does not mean caucasoid. dark does not mean aboriginal. Please look at my lesson#2 in my signature. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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(chivariki earliest tamil literature talks about Siva and Saivism and the Himalayas) .. on one hand .. you portray tamil as being radically different from Sanskrit due to they belonging to different races and then you have a culture that is a "subset" (in the words of the invasion theory proponents) of the invaders .. +++++==== tamils dont have the subset of the invaders. those invaders did not practice or behave like what we have today. its the invaders who changed their religion and customs. chaddi party likes to equate vedicism to hinduism and that is not true. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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nenu oka tamilian oka northie mugguramkalai panihestunde vallam nortie tellaga tamil guy nallaga nenu hamanachaya ga untam +++++=== a pure northie, a pure tamil and a pure telugu have clear cut distinctive features. typical pure tamils are black/brown caucosoids with sharp features and big piercing eyes. Their sharp noses are a bit different than typical pure aryan noses in that their noses have a slight curve towards the end(like the typical jew nose) Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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)..and then migration of atleast 10diff races like kambojas, yavanas,sakas etc from todays northe west afghanistan-turkeministan-khazakistan regions into india..and then mughal invasion.. +++== not true. the early vedic invaders(or migrators) were fair skinned aryan caucasoids. the aryans languages took shape in north of Iran and it was the language of fair skinned aryan caucasoids to begin with. sanskrit and vedic things are not indigenous to the sub continent. chaddi party should open a branch office in Iran and leave hindutva to the Shudras. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Ruj:by no means u can clearly divide indians into 2 diff races..
thats because we became hybrid. its actually a mixture of 4 races. bengalis appear more mongoloid relatively. tamils appear more black/brown dravida caucosoids relatively. telugus have more australoid(tribal) features relatively. but the fact that dravidian(south indian) languages have got nothing to do with sanskrit is 100% true and has got nothing to do with racial purity as of now. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. |
   
Kamal
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Ashton:Mesapotomia(modern Iraq) is the oldest civilization in the world... Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc8m9DHxH4E
Tammi .. This sure is an amazing video .. thanks for giving the link .. but I dont know what this has got to do with this thread .. except for a 10 sec bit where it said that people from Mesopotamia traded with people from Pakistan (those days India) .. inka ekkada ee aryan/dravidian sodhi gurinchi kanisam mention kuda ledu .. dont try to mislead people if thats the intention .. Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
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Jawmetri:brother, something that has always set me thinking are my relatives, i have some relatives who are so fair and with sharp features that they can pass off as iranians, i also have some relatives who are dark as coal and have more aborginal kind of features. with these anomalies right before my eyes, it is hard for me to completely write of the aryan invasion theory.
exact ga ee skin color difference ni teesukune aa kadha(aryan invasion) allesaru.. ..features wise not every fair color person has sharp features..and vice versa..not every dark person in india has blunt features.. maheshbabu though very fair, his features r blunt...he has a very blunt nose...but surya features r sharp..ippudu evadu aryan evadu dravidian.. by no means u can clearly divide indians into 2 diff races.. india is madeup of atleast 1000+ tribes...ealry historians( before 200BC) mentioned entire india to be dark/brown skinned people..if u se megasthenes and arrian accounts they clearly state entire india to be dark brown..later on for atleast 500yrs..there was indo-persian kingdoms,indo-greek kingdoms(between mauryan,kushan and gupta empires)..and then migration of atleast 10diff races like kambojas, yavanas,sakas etc from todays northe west afghanistan-turkeministan-khazakistan regions into india..and then mughal invasion..change in food habits,occupations...caste distinction becoming more prevelant...okati kadu rendu kaadu..we r refering to atleast 2000+years of continuous changing/modifications ...ee processlo fair skinned, brown,dark skinned people erpadaru..again when I say fair skinned it is just a relative comparision..
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Zulu
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Eluri_kurradu:manaki chinese andaroo okelaga kanapadataru kaani vallalo vallaki chala tedalu untayi kanapadathayi .. idi pedda vishyam kaadu broader outset lo pedda teda undadu
dont kid yourself. |
   
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Eluri_kurradu:
heyyy young man how r u
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Jawmetri:brother, something that has always set me thinking are my relatives, i have some relatives who are so fair and with sharp features that they can pass off as iranians, i also have some relatives who are dark as coal and have more aborginal kind of features. with these anomalies right before my eyes, it is hard for me to completely write of the aryan invasion theory.
nenu oka tamilian oka northie mugguramkalai panihestunde vallam nortie tellaga tamil guy nallaga nenu hamanachaya ga untam kaani akkada oka hinese oka matala sandarbham lo mugguroo okela untaru meeindians annadu naaku mindblok. manaki chinese andaroo okelaga kanapadataru kaani vallalo vallaki chala tedalu untayi kanapadathayi .. idi pedda vishyam kaadu broader outset lo pedda teda undadu I'm not a kurradu  |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Jawmetri:with these anomalies right before my eyes, it is hard for me to completely write of the aryan invasion theory.
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Jawmetri
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Post Number: 854 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 59.93.88.229
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Ruj:
brother, something that has always set me thinking are my relatives, i have some relatives who are so fair and with sharp features that they can pass off as iranians, i also have some relatives who are dark as coal and have more aborginal kind of features. with these anomalies right before my eyes, it is hard for me to completely write of the aryan invasion theory. |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3560 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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Kamal:sing sea levels (which is believed to have been the reason for the submersion of Dwarka) is also supposed to have submerged Sangam land/Dravida nadu .. so did some of that population migrate to the present "dravida" land in the wake of a natural disaster??? ee angle lo matram research cheyyaru .. because .. for someone to even propose this theory is in itself an acceptance of an alternate to the "invasion" theory .. which defeats the purpose of dividing India on the basis of 'clash of two pri
yep..kumari kandam..which was supposed to be twice as big as today's india.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3559 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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Kamal:tammi .. migration anna kaani ardam chesukovachu .. kaani "invasion" ani name chesaru chudu .. adi chaalu ee theory lo enta bias and entha agenda daagi undi ani cheppadaniki .. India has been a melting pot of civilizations for millenia .. and Vedic civilization "may be", Central Asia lo ne originate ayyundachu .. no denying .. kaani neeku kanisam migration theory ni support chese concrete evidence ee ledu ippati daaka .. kaani still u name the whole idea as "invasion" theory??? how fair is the theory? if it is invasion .. you should be able to tell who "invaded" who? who won, who lost? why and how did the invaders turn "so-called victors of the invasion" and then exist peacefully in the same society for almost 4 millenia .. and then how did the culture of the invaders and how did the culture of the natives remain so strikingly similar? poni jarigina invasion/war ki evidences unnaya? (chivariki earliest tamil literature talks about Siva and Saivism and the Himalayas) .. on one hand .. you portray tamil as being radically different from Sanskrit due to they belonging to different races and then you have a culture that is a "subset" (in the words of the invasion theory proponents) of the invaders .. i mean .. is not the dichotomy obvious? isnt the agenda of dividing Indian population on the basis of two different races and one enslaving other and the other against of one its own obvious?? i mean .. if you cannot connect these dots .. you dont have the right to claim yourself fair ..
perfectly said bro... Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 26829 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
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Kamal: (chivariki earliest tamil literature talks about Siva and Saivism and the Himalayas) .. on one hand .. you portray tamil as being radically different from Sanskrit due to they belonging to different races and then you have a culture that is a "subset" (in the words of the invasion theory proponents) of the invaders ..
oh yeah .. and not just this .. sangam literature lo .. they talk about dravida-nadu being so vast that what we see today on this side of Vindhyas is nothing but a fraction .. where did that land disappear? what happened to its populace? last week .. okahydi annai dwarka gurinchi ichina video lo choopinchadu .. rising sea levels (which is believed to have been the reason for the submersion of Dwarka) is also supposed to have submerged Sangam land/Dravida nadu .. so did some of that population migrate to the present "dravida" land in the wake of a natural disaster??? ee angle lo matram research cheyyaru .. because .. for someone to even propose this theory is in itself an acceptance of an alternate to the "invasion" theory .. which defeats the purpose of dividing India on the basis of 'clash of two primary races' .. Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
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Ashton:
munasab, eti ee tonsure maak
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Ashton
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Post Number: 12020 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 64.20.45.178
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Mesapotomia(modern Iraq) is the oldest civilization in the world... Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc8m9DHxH4E One set of tribes entered Northern India known as Aryans and other set of tribes entered Iran. http://www.crystalinks.com/mesopotamia.html |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 26828 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
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Ruj: ee aryan theory appudu lot of civilization,lot of literature work went through...but no mention of any migration...asalu arcahelogical evidence ledu..DNA evidence ledu...literary evidence ledu...kaani aryan migration undaa??
tammi .. migration anna kaani ardam chesukovachu .. kaani "invasion" ani name chesaru chudu .. adi chaalu ee theory lo enta bias and entha agenda daagi undi ani cheppadaniki .. India has been a melting pot of civilizations for millenia .. and Vedic civilization "may be", Central Asia lo ne originate ayyundachu .. no denying .. kaani neeku kanisam migration theory ni support chese concrete evidence ee ledu ippati daaka .. kaani still u name the whole idea as "invasion" theory??? how fair is the theory? if it is invasion .. you should be able to tell who "invaded" who? who won, who lost? why and how did the invaders turn "so-called victors of the invasion" and then exist peacefully in the same society for almost 4 millenia .. and then how did the culture of the invaders and how did the culture of the natives remain so strikingly similar? poni jarigina invasion/war ki evidences unnaya? (chivariki earliest tamil literature talks about Siva and Saivism and the Himalayas) .. on one hand .. you portray tamil as being radically different from Sanskrit due to they belonging to different races and then you have a culture that is a "subset" (in the words of the invasion theory proponents) of the invaders .. i mean .. is not the dichotomy obvious? isnt the agenda of dividing Indian population on the basis of two different races and one enslaving other and the other against of one its own obvious?? i mean .. if you cannot connect these dots .. you dont have the right to claim yourself fair .. Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3558 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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Jawmetri:the indian or foreign historical text don't have anything on dinosaurs, does that mean they dont exist?
bro..dinosaurs timelo asalu humans unnara???but still atleast there is an indirect referal to giant creatures in many historical texts.. ee aryan theory appudu lot of civilization,lot of literature work went through...but no mention of any migration...asalu arcahelogical evidence ledu..DNA evidence ledu...literary evidence ledu...kaani aryan migration undaa??
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Vjavasi
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Post Number: 8357 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
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babulu harvard, stanford research lu choosi vallu chepevi anni correct anukokandi.....akkada indology and other depts lo chala mandhi biased kameenah gallu vuntaaru who follow biased imperial sources |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 8356 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
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http://www.breakingindia.com/ http://www.sandeepweb.com/2011/05/25/an-interview-about-brea king-india/ An interview on breaking india ee content chadavandi fake aryan invasion theory agenda ardham avutundhi |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 17579 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.96.94
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Jawmetri: does that mean they dont exist?
vintha jantuvula section choosavaa? |
   
Jawmetri
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Post Number: 852 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 59.93.88.229
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Ruj:not a single historic text(indian or foreign) talks abt any migration.
the indian or foreign historical text don't have anything on dinosaurs, does that mean they dont exist? |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 17575 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.96.94
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Asalu history antha evadiki baaga rayadam vasthe adhenanta gaa...nijamenaa? |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6770 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.10.73
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Senapathy:
Do you consider this credible research..or just some British tabloid nonsense?
Researchers analysed the DNA of 132 individuals with wide-ranging backgrounds from 25 diverse groups around India. They found evidence of strong inbreeding leading to genetic groups that had been isolated from each other for thousands of years. Most people had a mixture of genes from two ancient populations representing traditionally upper-caste individuals and everyone else. The first was genetically close to people from the Middle East, Central Asia and Europe, while the second had an 'Ancestral South Indian' lineage confined to the subcontinent. The research challenges the notion that India's notorious rigid caste system, with its priestly Brahmans and low-status 'untouchables', was largely manufactured by the British. Some historians claim that while a caste system of sorts had existed since ancient times, in its original form it was not hereditary or inflexible and allowed people to move up and down the social ladder. It was the British who cemented the caste system into Indian society and culture by using it as a basis of a ''divide and rule'' policy, it is alleged. The caste system was a convenient means of keeping society under control. The new findings published in the journal Nature indicate that, genetically at least, Indians had been divided long before the British arrived. The scientists analysed more than 500,000 genetic markers from people representing 13 states, all six language families in India, traditionally ''upper'' and ''lower'' castes, and tribal groups. One group of Andaman islanders was, unusually, related exclusively to the Ancestral South Indian lineage. Co-author Dr Nick Patterson, from the Harvard University/MIT Broad Institute in Massachusetts, US, said: ''The Andamanese are unique. Understanding their origins provides a window onto the history of the Ancestral South Indians, and the period tens of thousands of years ago when they diverged from other Eurasians.'' The research has important health implications for Indians. Other genetically isolated groups such as Ashkenazi Jews are well known to suffer from an increased incidence of genetic diseases. The same may be true for many groups in India, the scientists believe. "The finding that a large proportion of modern Indians descend from founder events means that India is genetically not a single large population, but instead is best described as many smaller isolated populations," said Dr Lalji Singh, one of the study leaders from the Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology in Hyderabad, India http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/6224560 /Indias-caste-system-is-thousands-of-years-old-DNA-shows.htm l} |
   
Ruj
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Ashton:Vedic culture is something which we imported it from our Iranian Aryan ancestors who migrated from Iran to Northern part of India. http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/2039/7/07_ abstract.pdf
asalu andulo iran aryans nundi import ani ekkada undi..he is just refering to indo-iranians..andharu cheppe theory ee aryan migration gurinchi..oka sect iran ki vellindhi..inkoka sect indiaki vachindhi..
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Kamal
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Post Number: 26824 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
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Ashton:Vedic culture is something which we imported it from our Iranian Aryan ancestors who migrated from Iran to Northern part of India.
quote:The chapter, 'Imperial Evangelism Shapes Indian Ethnology', examines the true character of HH Risley (ICS), often projected by the less discerning as a "brilliant anthropologist". He comes out as one who "morphed" jati-varna into a racial category. The authors cite BR Ambedkar convincingly demolishing the spurious racist theory based on the nasal index. "The measurements establish that the Brahmins and the untouchables belong to the same race. From this it follows that if the Brahmins are Aryans, the untouchables are also Aryans. If the Brahmins are Dravidians, the untouchables are Dravidians," Ambedkar said.
http://www.dailypioneer.com/348433/Imaginary-fault-lines.htm l Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 26822 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
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Anand_n: There is an old Avestan prior to avestan that is usually dated around 2000 BC . This is the language of the Gathas :-)
oh nice! internet lo, and mainly wiki lo, almost all places lo .. it only refers to Avesta as being recorded in between 1000 BC - 500 BC .. which is 500 to 1000 years younger to Sanskrit. Ashton:Vedic culture is something which we imported it from our Iranian Aryan ancestors who migrated from Iran to Northern part of India.
chaa .. Iran Vedic culture ki original place ani emaina evidences unnaya? bcoz .. before 1500 BC .. vedic culture akkada existed ani prove cheyyali .. if we have imported it from there .. Zulu: E Interview with prof Hans hock choosi nee opinion ettu..I found him very balanced..he discusses about the similarities between sankrit and European languages..how dravidian is a language group on its own.
parledu .. reazonable ga seppaad . Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Anand_n
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Kamal@post 26811, There is an old Avestan prior to avestan that is usually dated around 2000 BC . This is the language of the Gathas Calling Okahyderabadi, Recently an old gentleman told me that Ramayana happened when Jambudweepa was an island (dweepa)-before the subcontinent connected to the mainland Asia that got my thoughts spinning - if that theory is true it would be before himalayas or Haravati/Saraswati existed and so before Vedic culture that would change quite a few assumptions - need to ask him for references again ... Do you have any material around that theory ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Ashton
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Kamal:afghan/pakistan annitilo unde vedic culture ni .. nasanam chesaru pundakor gaallu
Vedic culture is something which we imported it from our Iranian Aryan ancestors who migrated from Iran to Northern part of India. http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/2039/7/07_ abstract.pdf this is a very good book u might wanna read. http://www.amazon.com/Search-Cradle-Civilization-Georg-Feuer stein/dp/0835607410/sr=1-1/qid=1157773282/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 &s=books |
   
Telangana_gulti
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Zulu:Is it true that there are only three races in the actual sense of that word..caucasian, negroid and mangloid..and race is differenciated by jaw shape and not by skin color?
pure dravidians are black/brown caucasoids. pure aryans are fair caucasoids. The reason majority of Indians dont appear caucasoid is because there is huge element of mangoloid & australoid element in the sub continent. there are more than 3 races in the world. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6769 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.10.73
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Senapathy: Nee yenks.. That is a very concrete evidence. Issue is no one has ever looked into that.
naku dna gurinchi sarigga thelvad baa..evo konni theories chadivanu anni sagam sagam arthamayyayi.. Is it true that there are only three races in the actual sense of that word..caucasian, negroid and mangloid..and race is differenciated by jaw shape and not by skin color? |
   
Chitti_v2
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ittaanti theroies inkaa evannnaa unte seppandi......repu sesukodaaniki pilla dorakkapothe ikkade evaro okarini set sesukoni ee theory lu seppi manolle ani seppochu intlo |
   
Senapathy
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Zulu:dna perspective. It is very difficult to prove or disprove anything.
Nee yenks.. That is a very concrete evidence. Issue is no one has ever looked into that. DNA ni malla emanna annavo  I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza |
   
Cocanada
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Kamal:i did not happen to see the depiction of Indra coming to earth from heaven .. thanks a lot .. thats very very impressive ..
ur face cut indra vrutha story nenu DB lo chala sarlu cheppaanu i dont believe indra has got to do anything with earthly rains When contacted,the producer of Hara Hara Mahadeva, Bellamkonda Suresh vehemently denied that these posters are copied. Ala ela antaaru meeru (How can you say such a thing), he exclaimed.We never did such a thing,we got a photo shoot done, insisted Suresh. |
   
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Jcgaru:
why laughing ?? you aryan too?
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Jcgaru
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Zulu
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Kamal:
E Interview with prof Hans hock choosi nee opinion ettu..I found him very balanced..he discusses about the similarities between sankrit and European languages..how dravidian is a language group on its own. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hj4UGd0hnY&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shO2DNOpvQQ&feature=relmfu |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6766 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.10.73
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/IndoEurop eanTree.svg |
   
Ishan
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Zulu: nenu cheppindi adey kada? AIT or No AIT, There is no denying that Sanksrit belongs to Indo-Europian language group..adi India nundi bayataku vellinda..Bayata nundi India ki vochinda anedi conclusive ga cheppalem. but, we cant that sanskrit has similarities to persian..avestan,.greek, latin..
Yes, i am not arguing, just discussing . Some other cultural similarities include using chariots run by horses. This is also again just a similarity. A bifurcation occurred at some point, but when and where is the crucial question. Kamal: why is it impossible to beat this theory? antha conclusive evidence emundi asalu? global scale lo vedic civilization unnanta matrana, migration theory ni prove cheyyadaniki evidences ekkada unnayi?
nenu bhi ade antunna...My point is that there is no evidence to DISPROVE any theory. Similarities in language and culture points to a bifurcation in two populations...may be because of natural calamities a section of population migrated for new natural resources. Human migration anedi established phenomenon kada...based on those lines ee theories vachaayi...its of course also possible that two populations evolved separately and we can attribute the similarities purely to cultural exchanges at good will. |
   
Kamal
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Zulu:There is no denying that Sanksrit belongs to Indo-Europian language group
sare .. specific ga matladukundaam .. asalu ee Indo-European language group traits enti? wiki lo chuste ..
quote:Indo-Iranian languages, descended from Proto-Indo-Iranian (dated to the late 3rd millennium BC). * Iranian languages, attested from roughly 1000 BC in the form of Avestan. Epigraphically from 520 BC in the form of Old Persian (Behistun inscription). * Indo-Aryan languages or Indic languages, attested from the late 15th - early 14th century BC in Mitanni texts showing traces of Indo-Aryan. Epigraphically from the 3rd century BC in the form of Prakrit (Edicts of Ashoka). The Rigveda is assumed to preserve intact records via oral tradition dating from about the mid-2nd millennium BC in the form of Vedic Sanskrit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_languages#Classif ication paina chuste .. manaki telisinanta lo .. Sanskrit is older to Avesta by atleast 500 years ani telustondi .. still .. Sanskrit ni .. first Indo-Iranian group lo vesi .. taravata broad ga .. Indo-European lo include chesaru .. mari aa logic ento naaku aithe teliyatledu .. Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Kamal
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Ishan:Aryans might have migrated to europe from India and its impossible to beat this theory.
why is it impossible to beat this theory? antha conclusive evidence emundi asalu? global scale lo vedic civilization unnanta matrana, migration theory ni prove cheyyadaniki evidences ekkada unnayi? Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 6765 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.10.73
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Ishan: problem lies here. Just because of similarity of sankrit and avestan, one cant conclude aryans migrated from north west to india. IT could be other way round too. Aryans might have migrated to europe from India and its impossible to beat this theory. Linguistics based hypotheses of human migration patterns are very weak.
nenu cheppindi adey kada? AIT or No AIT, There is no denying that Sanksrit belongs to Indo-Europian language group..adi India nundi bayataku vellinda..Bayata nundi India ki vochinda anedi conclusive ga cheppalem. but, we cant that sanskrit has similarities to persian..avestan,.greek, latin.. |
   
Ishan
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Zulu: Evidence for such a theory includes the close relationship of the Indo-Iranian tongues with the Baltic and Slavic languages, vocabulary exchange with the non-Indo-European Uralic languages, and the nature of the attested Indo-European words for flora and fauna.[12]
problem lies here. Just because of similarity of sankrit and avestan, one cant conclude aryans migrated from north west to india. IT could be other way round too. Aryans might have migrated to europe from India and its impossible to beat this theory. Linguistics based hypotheses of human migration patterns are very weak. |
   
Zulu
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History Sanskrit is a member of the Indo-Iranian sub-family of the Indo-European family of languages. Its closest ancient relatives are the Iranian languages Old Persian and Avestan.[9] Within the wider Indo-European language family, Sanskrit shares characteristic sound changes with the Satem languages (particularly the Slavic and Baltic languages), and also with Greek.[10] In order to explain the common features shared by Sanskrit and other Indo-European languages, many scholars have proposed migration hypotheses asserting that the original speakers of what became Sanskrit arrived in what is now India and Pakistan from the north-west some time during the early second millennium BCE.[11] Evidence for such a theory includes the close relationship of the Indo-Iranian tongues with the Baltic and Slavic languages, vocabulary exchange with the non-Indo-European Uralic languages, and the nature of the attested Indo-European words for flora and fauna.[12] The earliest attested Sanskrit texts are Hindu texts of the Rigveda, which date to the mid-to-late second millennium BCE. No written records from such an early period survive. However, scholars are confident that the oral transmission of the texts is reliable: they were ceremonial literature whose correct pronunciation was considered crucial to its religious efficacy.[13] From the Rigveda until the time of PÄá¹ini (fl. 4th century BCE) the development of the Sanskrit language may be observed in other Vedic texts: the Samaveda, Yajurveda, Atharvaveda, Brahmanas, and Upanishads. During this time, the prestige of the language, its use for sacred purposes, and the importance attached to its correct enunciation all served as powerful conservative forces resisting the normal processes of linguistic change.[14] However, there is a clear, five-level linguistic development of Vedic from the Rigveda to the language of the Upanishads and the earliest Sutras (such as Baudhayana)[15] The oldest surviving Sanskrit grammar is PÄá¹ini's Aá¹£á¹ÄdhyÄyÄ« ("Eight-Chapter Grammar"). It is essentially a prescriptive grammar, i.e., an authority that defines correct Sanskrit, although it contains descriptive parts, mostly to account for some Vedic forms that had become rare in PÄá¹ini's time. The term "Sanskrit" was not thought of as a specific language set apart from other languages, but rather as a particularly refined or perfected manner of speaking. Knowledge of Sanskrit was a marker of social class and educational attainment in ancient India and the language was taught mainly to members of the higher castes, through close analysis of Sanskrit grammarians such as PÄá¹ini. Sanskrit, as the learned language of Ancient India, thus existed alongside the Prakrits (vernaculars), also called Middle Indic dialects, and eventually into the contemporary modern Indo-Aryan languages. |
   
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Post Number: 3556 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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Kamal:hmm .. mana gatha kurrod 2-3 years back ide seppevodu .. kaani .. naaku conclusive ga nammatam koosintha kastam .. due to lots of grey shades in those versions ..
naak kooda pedddha info dorakaledu deeni meedha.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
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Post Number: 26809 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
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Zulu:Chaala..chala..chala unnayi..ask google..okatenti 100 vasthayi.
nee enks .. google nenu cheyyaleka naa .. neeku nachina links emanna unte chaduvukundaam ani .. authentic ga .. Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 26808 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
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Zulu: So, while in prison, Tilak immersed himself in Vedic study. In 1903 he published his major statement concerning the age and original location of the birth of the Vedic Aryan civilization. Tilak propounded the theory of the Arctic home of the Aryans, meaning that the Aryans originated in the Arctic region, and later, on the journey south, divided into two branches. One branch went to Europe, while the other branch came to India... This great book, The Arctic Home in the Vedas, is a priceless work on Vedic history, mythology, and astronomy.
undochu .. intaki arctic region lo vedic civilization predates .. Indian vedic civilization era na? Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
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Post Number: 6763 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.10.73
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Kamal: ee point meeda disco cheyyava .. ee statement ni prove chese analysis evadanna chesada? unte koddiga naaku ivvava .. interesting to learn that perspective ..
Chaala..chala..chala unnayi..ask google..okatenti 100 vasthayi. |
   
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Post Number: 6762 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.10.73
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Lokamanya Bal Gangadhar Tilak died in 1920 and was replaced by Mahatma Gandhi as the leader of Indiaâs freedom struggle. When Tilak passed away, Gandhi said in his honor: âHe used his steel-like will power for the country. His life is an open book. The Lokamanya is the Architect of New India. Future generations will remember Tilak with reverence, as the man who lived and died for their sake.â One of Tilakâs important concepts utilized later on by Mahatma Gandhi was the boycott of foreign goods and the use of the term âSwadeshi,â meaning âof our countryâ or âself reliance.â But itâs important to note that Lokamanya Tilak was not just a revolutionary, he was a great scholar as well. Besides his radical political activities, Tilak was very much interested in Indian history and culture. Because he was an Indian nationalist, Tilak was particularly interested in the ancient sacred literature â The Vedas â as the earliest document of the Aryan Hindus and the oldest writings in the history of mankind. Tilak had the advantage over most other scholars because of his perfect mastery of the language of the Vedas, and the encyclopedic knowledge of them. So, while in prison, Tilak immersed himself in Vedic study. In 1903 he published his major statement concerning the age and original location of the birth of the Vedic Aryan civilization. Tilak propounded the theory of the Arctic home of the Aryans, meaning that the Aryans originated in the Arctic region, and later, on the journey south, divided into two branches. One branch went to Europe, while the other branch came to India... This great book, The Arctic Home in the Vedas, is a priceless work on Vedic history, mythology, and astronomy.
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Post Number: 26806 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
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Ruj: actual ga zorastrianism, hinduism rendu opp religions antaru..zorastrianism ahura means god..hinduism asura means evil
hmm .. mana gatha kurrod 2-3 years back ide seppevodu .. kaani .. naaku conclusive ga nammatam koosintha kastam .. due to lots of grey shades in those versions .. Zulu:from a linguistic point, vadu cheppindi 100% correct, sanskrit,latin and greek are very similar.
ee point meeda disco cheyyava .. ee statement ni prove chese analysis evadanna chesada? unte koddiga naaku ivvava .. interesting to learn that perspective .. btw .. similarities sare .. what about age of those languages? edi oldest? Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
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Post Number: 3555 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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Kamal: evaru tammud? btw .. ee zorastrianism older than vedic civilization aa?
inkevaru..islamists.. not older...zorastrianism is dated back to anywhere between ~100-2000BC...it has its orgins in iran and once entire iraq n iran followed this religion until islam was born... actual ga zorastrianism, hinduism rendu opp religions antaru..zorastrianism ahura means god..hinduism asura means evil Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 26805 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
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In his book 'Proof of Vedic Culture's Global Existence' Stephen Knapp has compiled information which confirms that the Vedic culture was once global. Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 26804 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
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Ashton:p1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kovLCcUeDoA p2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xohQzXL2JcQ
intaku mundu ee videos chusanu kaani .. i did not happen to see the depiction of Indra coming to earth from heaven .. thanks a lot .. thats very very impressive .. Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 26803 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
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Ruj:zorastanism ni motham nakinchesaru..
evaru tammud? btw .. ee zorastrianism older than vedic civilization aa? Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
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Post Number: 3554 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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Kamal:afghan/pakistan annitilo unde vedic culture ni .. nasanam chesaru pundakor gaallu .. :-( fortunately .. Bharata desam lo nilabadindi .. !
zorastanism ni motham nakinchesaru.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 26802 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
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Ashton:
is the sangam land same as dravida nadu? or is it different? afghan/pakistan annitilo unde vedic culture ni .. nasanam chesaru pundakor gaallu .. fortunately .. Bharata desam lo nilabadindi .. ! Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
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Post Number: 6761 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.10.73
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from a linguistic point, vadu cheppindi 100% correct, sanskrit,latin and greek are very similar. from racial, dna perspective. It is very difficult to prove or disprove anything. |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3553 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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http://gosai.com/writings/the-myth-of-the-aryan-invasion myth of aryan migration Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
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Ashton:
Already Aryan-Dravidian invasion theory ni kottesar...malli shuru chesinra ee lolli ? |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3552 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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not a single historic text(indian or foreign) talks abt any migration. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 3551 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 174.53.240.142
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yep and those so called aryans are none other than native indians..u can also call them dravidians.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
Ashton
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Post Number: 12016 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 64.20.45.178
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p1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kovLCcUeDoA p2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xohQzXL2JcQ The Indo-Iranians (often self-identifying as "Aryans") form a primary branch of the Indo-European peoples. Their expansion eastward and southward across the Eurasian steppe is strongly associated with the Proto-Indo-European invention of the spoke-wheeled chariot (Sanskrit rátha, Avestan raθa). The earliest fully developed chariots known are from the chariot burials of the Andronovo (Timber-Grave) sites in the northern Eurasian steppe, belonging to the Sintashta-Petrovka culture, which shows strong links to cultures further west. It built heavily fortified settlements, engaged in bronze metallurgy on a scale hitherto unprecedented and practised complex burial rituals reminiscent of rituals known from Indo-Iranian sources such as the Rigveda. The Andronovo culture over the next few centuries spreads across the steppes from the Urals eastwards to the Tien Shan, likely corresponding to early Indo-Iranian cultures which eventually spread to Iran and India in the course of the 2nd millennium BCE. The standard model for the entry of the Indo-European languages into South Asia is that this first wave went over the Hindu Kush, into the headwaters of the Indus and taking control of the declining Indus cities, and later spreading along the Ganges. The earliest stratum of Vedic Sanskrit, preserved in the Rigveda, is assigned to roughly 1500 BCE. From the Indus, the Indo-Aryan languages spread from c. 1500 BCE to c. 500 BCE, over the northern and central parts of the subcontinent, sparing the extreme south. The Indo-Aryans in these areas established several powerful kingdoms and principalities in the region, from eastern Afghanistan to the doorstep of Bengal. The most powerful of these kingdoms were the post-Rigvedic Kuru (in Kurukshetra and the Delhi area) and their allies the PañcÄlas further east, as well as Gandhara and later on, the kingdom of Kosala and the quickly expanding realm of Magadha. The latter lasted until the 4th century BCE, when it was conquered by Chandragupta Maurya and formed the center of the Mauryan empire. Nuristani languages are generally regarded as an independent group, as one of the three sub-groups of Indo-Iranian. The languages are spoken by tribal peoples in an extremely isolated mountainous region of the Hindu Kush. They are a people whose ancestors practised what was apparently an ancient Indo-Iranian polytheistic religion until they were conquered and converted to Islam in the late 19th century. They sometimes exhibit physical characteristics of light hair, eyes, and skin. In eastern Afghanistan and southwestern Pakistan, whatever Indo-Aryan languages were spoken there were eventually pushed out by the Iranic peoples, who form the third sub-group of Indo-Iranian. The Medes, Parthians and Persians begin to appear in modern Iran for the first time from ca. 800 BCE, and the Achaemenids replaced Elamite rule from 559 BCE. During the 1st millennium CE, the Iranian Pashtuns and Baloch began to settle on the eastern edge of the Iranian plateau, on the mountainous frontier of northwestern and western Pakistan, displacing the earlier Indo-Aryans from the area. East Iranic peoples continued to dominate the steppes until the Mongol and Turkic expansion of the Middle Ages. |