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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 10:50 am:       


Kadapafan:

Reforms in India are planned very well. Indulo JP paatra "ZERO". There are many great guys who have planned this and running it in Delhi. Unfortunately nobody knows about JP or his white papers in LS website. Ministry of Power lo 100 initiatives nadustuntaayi.

If some one wants to demonstrate any technology for Renewable naaku cheppandi nenu pilot cheyistaanu from MNRe, with a funding from them. But after 10 years vachi nenu pilot chesaanu so naa valle renewable industry vachindi India lo ani cheppukokandi please.

I have been consulting 10 states since past year on reducing ATC losses, not from a technical perspective but from commercial perspective. I have met Director of Distribution, the highest level in India, some 20 times in past year and have strong understanding of past in India, and future of India as well, as there are programs such as Smart Grid Pilots, National Electricity fund are being planned for future.

Reforms programs are fantastic, but their application is low since we are corrupted. Better implementation kosame Feeder as a profit centre laantivi implement chesaaru, alaantivi evanna JP chepthe super antaam kaani, ATC losses unnayi, reduce cheyyali ani chepte kaadu




First LS indulo chesedi em undi ani question.

Idigo LS chesindi idi, pilot projects, conduct chesaru, ante, there is nothing to pilot

Next thamaru "very successful" ani mention chesina USAID project lone chesaru pilot projects ani prove kooda chesanu. And this was 10yrs ago, not today

Kadapafan:

LS worked with USAID as an NGO, daanni ONLY political party stressing its need ani coloring




Ippudu LS worked as an NGO ani cover up. The political party is headed by the same person.

Manaki JP budget response lo power gurinchi em matladadu teledu. Overcapacity ni lift aagipothe, current ledu lift aagipoindi ani chepthe gani teledemo. You have been meeting ppl only since last yr. Why don't you accept something done 10yrs ago? But I will not make fun of your work, like you did about LS's work. Since I know the value of hardwork.

Kadapafan:

Unfortunately nobody knows about JP or his white papers in LS website. Ministry of Power lo 100 initiatives nadustuntaayi.




JP is the pioneer in power sector reforms ani cheppaledu evaru ikkada. Thamare vachi gonthu chinchukuntunnaru. Not nobody, it is YOU who did not know what LS did. Coz, that was 10yrs ago, under the same USAID program you mentioned. I never said JP is the ONLY person to do this. But LS did lend a hand, and not any other organization.
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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 01:04 am:       


Kadapafan:

Magadheera




 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 01:02 am:       


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Nuvve chepplaa. Mee organization/company elaa vundi. Magadheera naa leka PRP naa?


Magadheera
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:55 am:       


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waza waza


Rujju no filth please
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:54 am:       


Kadapafan:

enti sangatulu,




Nuvve chepplaa. Mee organization/company elaa vundi. Magadheera naa leka PRP naa?
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:54 am:       


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even if LS invented petrol out of water - it is plain routine stuff to him..


LS chesevi ilaantive, Petrol from Water, Free Power by reducing T&D losses
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:53 am:       


Paga_babai_paga:

DB loo ee maata antee nannu kummutaaru .



enduku alaga..:D

Kadapafan:



waza waza:D
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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:53 am:       

Transmission and Distribution Losses taggiste free power ivvochu - JP and his Fans
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:51 am:       


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Pillatoo endi godavaaa.


JP poddunna coffee taagithe, coffee poddunna taagithene health baaguntundi anduke taagadu JP ani argue sestunte, maaku pettoddu ani septunna
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:50 am:       


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eavaru ani question mark face ettkaa. this is Oka_laila_kosam.


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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:49 am:       


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Pillatoo endi godavaaa.

 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:49 am:       


Indiarocks:



This is the project that Loksatta worked for in AP, under USAID.

http://drumindia.org/UserFiles/File/ruralpart/RPS%20%205-1%2 0%20MICRO%20EXPERIMENTS%20IN%20AP.Doc.

I repeat, I never said LS was the pioneer in power reforms. But, they are the ONLY political party stressing its need in AP, today.


LS worked with USAID as an NGO, daanni ONLY political party stressing its need ani coloring
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:46 am:       


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T&D losses unnayi ani JP kanukkuntada? JP is not an Engineer in the Electricity Board for God's sake. Inkem kanukkovali JP, electric bulb aa


mari JP em sesaadu, T&D losses unnayi daanni reduce cheyyali ani cheppada
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:45 am:       


Ruj:

ori ori..nee patha id oka_laila_kosam aa..okapudu ninnu beckbeckon anukunetodini...ibdblo rendu moodu sarlu adiga nuvvu beck
ee kadha ani..:D




Bec naaku manchi dosth, guruv lekkaa. DB loo ee maata antee nannu kummutaaru .
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:39 am:       


Paga_babai_paga:

this is Oka_laila_kosam.



ori ori..nee patha id oka_laila_kosam aa..okapudu ninnu beckbeckon anukunetodini...ibdblo rendu moodu sarlu adiga nuvvu beck ee kadha ani..:D
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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:38 am:       


Kadapafan:

Deenni JP kanukkoledu FYKI. It is a known fact to all




T&D losses unnayi ani JP kanukkuntada? JP is not an Engineer in the Electricity Board for God's sake. Inkem kanukkovali JP, electric bulb aa


Kadapafan:

In addition to above, USAID launched DRUM program which brought in new concepts such as Franchising in Distribution which is becoming widely successful. Not many of you probably know that there are some cities which are franchised for distribution. Currently cities such as Nagpur are selecting Franchisees for distributing electricity in Nagpur.




This is the project that Loksatta worked for in AP, under USAID.

http://drumindia.org/UserFiles/File/ruralpart/RPS%20%205-1%2 0%20MICRO%20EXPERIMENTS%20IN%20AP.Doc.

I repeat, I never said LS was the pioneer in power reforms. But, they are the ONLY political party stressing its need in AP, today.
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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:36 am:       


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eavaru ani question mark face ettkaa. this is Oka_laila_kosam.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:25 am:       


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Added to it, it supplies "quality" power to the consumer. Anything not properly usable is a waste.


Power is always Quality, there is nothing like less quality power, only thing that matters is how much power is available.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:23 am:       

Bottom Line:

Reforms in India are planned very well. Indulo JP paatra "ZERO". There are many great guys who have planned this and running it in Delhi. Unfortunately nobody knows about JP or his white papers in LS website. Ministry of Power lo 100 initiatives nadustuntaayi.

If some one wants to demonstrate any technology for Renewable naaku cheppandi nenu pilot cheyistaanu from MNRe, with a funding from them. But after 10 years vachi nenu pilot chesaanu so naa valle renewable industry vachindi India lo ani cheppukokandi please.

I have been consulting 10 states since past year on reducing ATC losses, not from a technical perspective but from commercial perspective. I have met Director of Distribution, the highest level in India, some 20 times in past year and have strong understanding of past in India, and future of India as well, as there are programs such as Smart Grid Pilots, National Electricity fund are being planned for future.

Reforms programs are fantastic, but their application is low since we are corrupted. Better implementation kosame Feeder as a profit centre laantivi implement chesaaru, alaantivi evanna JP chepthe super antaam kaani, ATC losses unnayi, reduce cheyyali ani chepte kaadu
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:15 am:       

JP cheppadu ani JP fans dabba kottukuntunnavi:

1. T&D losses are high in India, vaatini taggiste free gaa power ivvochu:
T&D losses are high in India ani andariki telusu nothing new in that. JP 1999 lo cheppindi was identified by Govt even before that and so programs such as APDRP were planned. 2000 lo program launch chesaaru ante daani background work eppudu chesintaaro nenu cheppakkarledu.

Deenni JP kanukkoledu FYKI. It is a known fact to all

Ika T&D losses taggiste free power ivvadam pedda comedy. Energy supply is pretty low in India. Power cuts every where are there because we dont have power simply. Demand is very high compared to supply. Anduke lot of generation is planned now. India's current generation capacity is around 140000MW and is intending to add 78000MW capacity by 2012 to meet the demands. If some 15% of 140000MW is saved by reducing losses i.e. 20000MW do you think it can be given free of cost when there is so much of demand for power? its as good as normally giving free.

2. Pilots

Asalu Pilot chesaado ledo naaku teleedu kaani, R-APDRP program itself is a pilot covering 1420 towns in India (Towns more than 30000 population). Pilot can be done if:

1. it is a concept that need to be proven
2. The results can be replicated elsewhere

If a pilot is done in a small village both cannot be achieved. Firstly there is nothing to prove here, There are two types of losses, both of which need investments. Investments vary drastically so replication from village to another town is not possible. For technical losses, distribution infrastructure need to be improved, for commercial losses Metering, Billing and Collection(MBC) efficiency need to be improved.

Pilot village lo chesi saadinchedi enti ikkada? MBC efficiency depends on how much local industries are efficient in paying and not doing theft. Idi village lo easy choosedaaniki cities lo kaadu. Anduke concept of feeder being a Profit centre has been introduced. Deeni valla ekkada emi theft nadustundo telustundi
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:01 am:       

Power Sector Reforms in India, for Dummies:

Early 1990s:

The need for private generation has been identified to supply power for this vast country. After liberalization, Private generation players were allowed to enter generation, and hence Tata Power kind of companies came into Fray

Late 1990s: T&D losses is the biggest challenge identified. APDP (Accelerated Power Development Program) to reduce T&D losses has been planned. To support these initiatives it is important to completely meter all the areas and unbundle the value chain. Electricity Act 2003 has been framed.

2001: As per electricity act 2003, unbundling and formation of regulatory commissions happened. Unbundling is complete in most of states, but few states like Tamilnadu still didnt happened. Because of this APSEB has been unbundled into AP Genco for Genration, AP Transco for Transmission, APCPDCL, APEPDCL, APNPDCL and APSPDCL for Distribution in Central, East, North and South of AP. Regulatory commissions are formed in each states, which are monitored by CERC, and the main activities of Regulatory commission's include fixing the tariff. APDP program launched and then within a year it took the form of APDRP (Accelerated Power Development Reform Programme) where about 3000 crores has been given to various distribution companies till 2006, when R-APDRP program was launched

2006: R-APDRP program was launched, a new version of APDRP program, with a more structured funding and stringent target of reducing ATC losses. 50000 crores has been earmarked for the same. The aim is to have feeder as a P&L engine, with Junior engineer running and responsible for the same. The aim is to reduce ATC losses to 15% from its current 35% at a national level. The program is currently underway.

In addition to above, USAID launched DRUM program which brought in new concepts such as Franchising in Distribution which is becoming widely successful. Not many of you probably know that there are some cities which are franchised for distribution. Currently cities such as Nagpur are selecting Franchisees for distributing electricity in Nagpur.

Private Players such as Tata and Reliance entered Distribution. Orissa for example is completely private owned distribution, and cities such as Delhi, Mumbai, Noida are partly covered by private distribution players.

Ika JP cheppadu ani cheputunna vaati gurinchi next post lo discuss cheddam
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 11:39 pm:       


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Indiarocks:



Jp_rocks:


LOL JP fansaa!!!! I am talking about Power Sector Reforms, with understanding of basics of what are the challenges, next post lo details raastaa, chetanaithe discuss cheyyandi lekunte as usual sideline chesi JP super ani chappatlu kottukondi
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 07:45 pm:       

vadileyyi , ee madya edo power vati mida edo thesis chesi vuntadu .

he wanted t oprove something ?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 05:10 pm:       

The planning commission or the courts should first put a ban on anything being given free. When something is given free then there should be a clear visibility as to how this will be maintained or when this will end...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 04:23 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

KF tho arguments waste..he supports a run of the mill party that doesn't have a better agenda than entertaining people..and then goes after any party (which will be LS, of course) that offers a solution or tries to attempt for a solution..

even if LS invented petrol out of water - it is plain routine stuff to him..




I purposefully did not bring in other political parties in the discussion.

He is desperately trying to prove that LS did not do anything. I provided the link about the project, and he is giving me gyaan on power transmission, something that is not the point of the discussion.

Desam lo power sector reforms telusa ani asking. Mari adey Ministry of Power sponsor chesina pilot project gurinchi cheptunte, daniki Loksatta work chesindi ante pilot project enduku, what is there to pilot anta
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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 03:58 pm:       


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KF tho arguments waste..he supports a run of the mill party that doesn't have a better agenda than entertaining people..and then goes after any party (which will be LS, of course) that offers a solution or tries to attempt for a solution..

even if LS invented petrol out of water - it is plain routine stuff to him..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 02:48 pm:       

Paper presented by Dr. JP on "Energy Sector Reform" at Harvard University, in 1999, that is 11yrs ago.

http://www.loksatta.org/cms/documents/advocacy/energy.pdf

You can read point 8 on Page 4. Remember this was 11 years ago. Ippudu JP okkare chesara anoddu. I am not saying that.

And FYI, the four pilot projects were sponsored by Ministry of Power, Govt. of India. May be they did not have the gyaan that such pilot projects are needed.

So again Do your homework, at the least do not ridicule the hard work done by somebody for the country
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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 02:41 pm:       

Paper presented by Dr. JP on "Energy Sector Reform" at Harvard University, in 1999, that is 11yrs ago.

http://www.loksatta.org/cms/documents/advocacy/energy.pdf

You can read point 8 on Page 4. Remember this was 11 years ago. Ippudu JP okkare chesara anoddu. I am not saying that.

And FYI, the four pilot projects were sponsored by Ministry of Power, Govt. of India. May be they did not have the gyaan that such pilot projects are needed.}
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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 02:12 pm:       


Kadapafan:

Losses taggiste wastage taggutundaa




I do not need your Power Transmission 101 dude

Yes, reducing transmission loss does help save energy, and helps reduce energy cost. Added to it, it supplies "quality" power to the consumer. Anything not properly usable is a waste.

Homework cheyamannadi evaru em chesaru ani telsukuni comment cheyamani. Not to give me a lecture on power transmission

With investment in infra, LS successfully demonstrated that power losses can be reduced by 18% in a pilot project. And before you comment about the free power statement, do your homework on what LSP says about that.

In this thread we were talking about "free power" and what political parties are doing/saying about it. Least interested in your lecture on electrical transmission.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 01:06 am:       


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I gave the example of a study conducted 10yrs ago.

Transmission losses taggisthe, wastage thaggada? Appudu ippatikante better gaa free power ivvalera, with lesser expenditure? vignana pradarsana


Losses taggiste wastage taggutundaa

Losses tagginchedaaniki infrastructure lo invest cheyyali, infrastructure lo invest chesi losses tagginchi, aa power ni free gaa iyyali, highlight Loksatta logic

Pilot Pilot annav daani gurinchi cheppatledu enduku malli, emi pilot cheyyali ekkada pilot cheyyali, asalu T&D losses lo enni types of losses untaayo telusaa neeku asalu? Malli homework cheyyali
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 01:01 am:       


Indiarocks:


At least one party paid attention, thats a good start. Migatha vallu vere party pathakalani peru marchi pettukovadam lo busy.



Indiarocks:

LS ni choosi vere party lu nerchukuntunnayi ani cheppana? . kala vachinda? Power sector lo reforms vasthe thappu ani cheppana? Daniki LS okkate karanam ani cheppana?


Mundu paper raasaru annav, daanni choosi okka party paid attention annav, ippudemo nenu analedu ani U turn
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 03:39 pm:       


Kadapafan:

LS whitepaper choosi parties nerchukuntunnaya, anduke adigaa asalu Indian power sector lo ememi reforms vachaayo telusaa ani, aallu edo white paper raayadam nuvvu link ettadam antenaa




LS ni choosi vere party lu nerchukuntunnayi ani cheppana? . kala vachinda? Power sector lo reforms vasthe thappu ani cheppana? Daniki LS okkate karanam ani cheppana?

I gave the example of a study conducted 10yrs ago.

Transmission losses taggisthe, wastage thaggada? Appudu ippatikante better gaa free power ivvalera, with lesser expenditure? vignana pradarsana
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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 03:05 pm:       


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Indian power sector gurinchi naa understanding enduku. The discussion was what the politicial parties are doing about free power. Ikkada naa vignana pradarsana enduku . Am I getting paid?


Edo homework cheyyamannav gaa LS whitepaper choosi parties nerchukuntunnaya, anduke adigaa asalu Indian power sector lo ememi reforms vachaayo telusaa ani, aallu edo white paper raayadam nuvvu link ettadam antenaa
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 03:03 pm:       


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Did I say,that LS is the pioneer of power reforms in India? The discussion was about free power, and I only mentioned how it can be made possible, as demonstrated by LS. And this was done about 10 yrs ago.


Free power gurinchi ekkada discuss chesaam brotheru, ante T&D losses taggiste free power ivvochaa, Super LS Logic
 

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Kadapafan:

naa homework gurinchi sare kaani ippudu emi jarugutundo power gurinchi desam lo asalu telusaa tamaku? mundu meeru cheppandi taruvaata nenu cheptaanu naaku telisina vishayalu, But its funny that you think what LS knows other people dont and nothing has been planned etc..,




Did I say,that LS is the pioneer of power reforms in India? The discussion was about free power, and I only mentioned how it can be made possible, as demonstrated by LS. And this was done about 10 yrs ago.


Kadapafan:

I am waiting for your understanding of current Indian power sector to respond on this




Indian power sector gurinchi naa understanding enduku. The discussion was what the politicial parties are doing about free power. Ikkada naa vignana pradarsana enduku . Am I getting paid?
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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:49 pm:       


Indiarocks:

From the document itself, more support for a pilot project

Unfortunately reliable statistics on the performance of APSEB/ AP Transco are not available.
The claims of Transmission and Distribution (T & D) losses of power for instance have been
frequently revised.


I am waiting for your understanding of current Indian power sector to respond on this
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:48 pm:       


Indiarocks:


No need of a pilot project aa. The project was intended to study electricity distribution to the end user, in rural and urban setups. How bad things are being done today. How they can be improved.

So do your homework next time.



Indiarocks:


At least one party paid attention, thats a good start. Migatha vallu vere party pathakalani peru marchi pettukovadam lo busy.


naa homework gurinchi sare kaani ippudu emi jarugutundo power gurinchi desam lo asalu telusaa tamaku? mundu meeru cheppandi taruvaata nenu cheptaanu naaku telisina vishayalu, But its funny that you think what LS knows other people dont and nothing has been planned etc..,
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:44 pm:       


Nippu:

TDP always moved towards QUAlity power rather than free power during their ruling .




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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:43 pm:       

2004 lo emayindi aa budhi? cheppamante Dawood Ibrahim kooda manchi reasons cheptadu chesina panulaki. Fact is that nothing changed in the 5 yrs of TDP ruling//


emi ardam kala.

2004 ki mundu aa direction lone velladu antunna.

are you talking about 2009 .


I will see a politican when he is in ruling not in oppsotion .
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Kadapafan:

ippudu LS ee paper raasindani evaru attention pay chesaaeru ee details meeda??




At least one party paid attention, thats a good start. Migatha vallu vere party pathakalani peru marchi pettukovadam lo busy.


Nippu:

TDP always moved towards QUAlity power rather than free power during their ruling .




2004 lo emayindi aa budhi? cheppamante Dawood Ibrahim kooda manchi reasons cheptadu chesina panulaki. Fact is that nothing changed in the 5 yrs of TDP ruling.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:37 pm:       

From the document itself, more support for a pilot project

Unfortunately reliable statistics on the performance of APSEB/ AP Transco are not available.
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frequently revised.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:32 pm:       

TDP always moved towards QUAlity power rather than free power during their ruling .
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:31 pm:       


Indiarocks:


I never said Loksatta party, that is why I said LS, not LSP. And the party is headed by the same leadership. Yes, somebody with Transco can give these details. The point to note here is that who is paying attention to those details?


ippudu LS ee paper raasindani evaru attention pay chesaaeru ee details meeda??
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:31 pm:       

AP transco and GENCO aare formed beacise of this reason only.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:30 pm:       

TDP govt spent bih money to identify these transmissions and disttibution looses.

so they erected lot of transformers etc etc , i dont know .

he took some steps in tht direction .

first we need to identify where are thelosses . then only we can proceed furhter to reduce those losses.

As a first step i nthis direction . aptransco is formed too.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:29 pm:       

The problem does not end with modernizing the transmission grid. There are problems with electrical transformers, agricultural power not being properly metered, voltage problems etc.

Based on this study, LSP has a point in their manifesto, that they will install separate transformers, solely for Agriculture supply. Farmers are to be compensated for burnt motors coz of voltage fluctuations.
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Kadapafan:

There is nothing to Pilot there, It is a fact that ATC losses are high in India and same has been identified long back. APDP program got launched in 2000-2001 (that means the work on this program has been strategised atleast 4-5 years before that).

What LS had given in that paper can be told by any one who is working in power sector. There is nothing new there.

And I think LS is not a party in 2000, its a movement.




I never said Loksatta party, that is why I said LS, not LSP. And the party is headed by the same leadership. Yes, somebody with Transco can give these details. The point to note here is that who is paying attention to those details?

No need of a pilot project aa. The project was intended to study electricity distribution to the end user, in rural and urban setups. How bad things are being done today. How they can be improved.

So do your homework next time.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:18 pm:       


Indiarocks:


Yes. Oka village lo pilot project laga implement chesi kooda choopincharu.



Indiarocks:


I did not mean before 1999.


There is nothing to Pilot there, It is a fact that ATC losses are high in India and same has been identified long back. APDP program got launched in 2000-2001 (that means the work on this program has been strategised atleast 4-5 years before that).

What LS had given in that paper can be told by any one who is working in power sector. There is nothing new there.

And I think LS is not a party in 2000, its a movement.
 

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I take it back, probably LS has been talking about transmission losses since 1999. Below is a document published as early as 2000.

http://www.loksatta.org/cms/documents/advocacy/ES.pdf
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Indiarocks:

Yes. Oka village lo pilot project laga implement chesi kooda choopincharu.




I did not mean before 1999.
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Kadapafan:

for a long time enti saami, this is under 11th five year plan, ante 2006-2011 plan lo approve aina amount, this is a restructured program and the first program to reduce ATC losses was started in 1999 or so, appatikanna munde cheppindaa LS




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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 11:55 am:       


Indiarocks:


LS has been advocating it for a long time. Ye party aina power lo lenantha varaku chesedi ento adey chesaru.


for a long time enti saami, this is under 11th five year plan, ante 2006-2011 plan lo approve aina amount, this is a restructured program and the first program to reduce ATC losses was started in 1999 or so, appatikanna munde cheppindaa LS
 

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Kadapafan:

Deeniki LS chesedi emundi? Already 11th 5 year plan lo 50000 crores allocate chesaaru to strenthen this. And this is already in progress (allocation is not just on paper). Ee losses reduce chese daaniki 5 years padutundi minimum.




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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 05:56 am:       

Water itself doesn't solve the problem, productivity is also very important
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:04 am:       


Indiarocks:


About 40% of the generated electricity is lost in the transmission, coz of poor infra. Improve the grid, and infra, then free power becomes viable. This has already been implemented successfully as a pilot project in a village.


Deeniki LS chesedi emundi? Already 11th 5 year plan lo 50000 crores allocate chesaaru to strenthen this. And this is already in progress (allocation is not just on paper). Ee losses reduce chese daaniki 5 years padutundi minimum.
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 09:32 pm:       


Guriginja:

chinalo 3 gorges kaduthunte its a waste ani yendaroo annaru..ipuudemantunnaru.




3 gorges dam lift irrigation ki kaadu bro. that project produces 2 GW (20,000 MW) of power. Some people said (saying even today) that was a bad idea for different reasons like displacing a million people, submerging thousands of ancient sites, environmental disaster etc.. some of the reasons valid and some of them aren't.

AP lo proposed lift irrigation project meeda invested Capital plus if you add O&M cost to that total, that's an extremely uneconomical project.
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 07:43 pm:       

ippudu nenu rithu nu ani cheppukone roju vachindi.In villages money is flowing freely and bad enti ante they are spending in waste way.

andaru tintunnaru(politician ,employees,) village vaadiki kontha isthe tappenti.

planning commission hahahha(3 times salary penchithe tappu gaadu gaani needi person ku money pump chesthe tappanta),ee nayallani bokkalo podichi village kelli bathakamani cheppali.

rithu,pedhavaadu rich ayyadu anna this is sure.
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 03:27 pm:       


Kamal:




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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 03:21 pm:       


Indiarocks:

Intlo koorchopetti 2k istamu ante votes vesaru.



veyyaledu ga ...... :D

Indiarocks:

No ppl support ante, ppl are not irrigation experts bro. Intlo koorchopetti 2k istamu ante votes vesaru. They don't care about the viability, or the economics behind it.



Tappadu .. flow lo follow aipovatame .. nenu Guruji style lo repeated ga septunna .. India lo Cong ki tappa votes eyyaru janaalu ani :D
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Kamal:

ala kaadu .. now that they started .. delay enduku avutondi ani assembly lo question adigaara JP ani nenu mimmalni questioning??? T vaste inko 5 vastayi .. raakapoyina aa 5 vastayi .. :D




asalu aa project ye thappu antunte, delay vaddu, thvaraga cheyandi, ani question cheyala?

AFAIK they have not started fully on this. Budget allocation ee yr ye start aindi anukunta. Edo mee kishan reddy lanti vallu padayatralu, walkoutlu chesi, aa waste chese money edo thvaraga cheyandi ani push chesaru.

No ppl support ante, ppl are not irrigation experts bro. Intlo koorchopetti 2k istamu ante votes vesaru. They don't care about the viability, or the economics behind it.
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Indiarocks:

JP goru walk out cheyaru mastaru. Enti use walk out chesthe? High court PIL vesaru. LSP is doing all it can to oppose this. 1 MLA tho entha cheyacho, anthakante ekkuva chestunnaru. T state vaste, okkati kadu inkoka 5 start chestaru ilantivi. You can write this down for the record.



ala kaadu .. now that they started .. delay enduku avutondi ani assembly lo question adigaara JP ani nenu mimmalni questioning??? T vaste inko 5 vastayi .. raakapoyina aa 5 vastayi .. :D
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nenu inkoti adigaa .. JP goru .. ee issue meeda walkouts/protests lantivi eti seyyaleda? adi seppandi .. mottaniki ee project waste ani telchaaru .. on the back of no response from people !!!




JP goru walk out cheyaru mastaru. Enti use walk out chesthe? High court PIL vesaru. LSP is doing all it can to oppose this. 1 MLA tho entha cheyacho, anthakante ekkuva chestunnaru. T state vaste, okkati kadu inkoka 5 start chestaru ilantivi. You can write this down for the record.
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case court lo undi mastaru. Court lo unna kooda Govt. project start cheste adi Govt. ni adagali. Govt. mathram motham blame chesi em labham. Anni parties issue ni politicize chesi, emotional issue chesayi. Okkadu oppose cheste kada. Malli padayatralu, walkout lu.



nenu inkoti adigaa .. JP goru .. ee issue meeda walkouts/protests lantivi eti seyyaleda? adi seppandi .. mottaniki ee project waste ani telchaaru .. on the back of no response from people !!!
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Kamal:

mari court lo case vesthe .. project meeda stay teesukuni raalekapoyara? what happened?




case court lo undi mastaru. Court lo unna kooda Govt. project start cheste adi Govt. ni adagali. Govt. mathram motham blame chesi em labham. Anni parties issue ni politicize chesi, emotional issue chesayi. Okkadu oppose cheste kada. Malli padayatralu, walkout lu.
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Guriginja:

who cares..polavaram project is a project that was concepualised by the britishers, noone had the guts to take it up...YSR did it...daniki kuda court lo cases vesaru...so what and who cares....pranahitha is a neccessary project for providing water for 7 telangana districts which house the state capital. What is the revenue generated from these regions...and what is the investment on pranahitha.




kinda ichamu choosukondi. pranahita's "MAINTENANCE" costs will be of the order of 2lks per acre. Per acre 2lks revenue unna land unda, T lo?Common sense.
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Aina china lo viable kadu annaru anukondi, manaki enduku, valla dabbulu pothayi. Idedo vadu vatha pettukunnadu kabatti manam kooda pettukundamu annattundi.
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Guriginja:

same will be the fate of those opposing polavara, pranahitha or any such projects.





Aa project economically enduku viable kadu annaro, pranahita enduku annaro manaki anavasaram. Anni club cheseddamu. Akkada electricity costs are 50cr per day. ekkada nundi testaru mahaprabho ante 3 gorges dam. FYI 3 gorges dam PRODUCES electricity. It does not have recurring costs like pranahita.
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Indiarocks:

Court lo case evaru vesaru anukunnaru?



mari court lo case vesthe .. project meeda stay teesukuni raalekapoyara? what happened?
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 02:28 pm:       

3 gorges gurinchi ituvanti sollu chala chepparu...but the govt went ahead built it.

http://papundits.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/the-three-gorges-d am-part-3/

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Kamal:

sare .. BJP/TDP ante vote bank politics .. what happened to LS?




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Link plz, afaik 3 gorges had huge environmental concerns, not economical concerns.




google seyi bedaru...it seems the world bank itself said it is not economically viable...as usual malli u turn kottaranuko.....same will be the fate of those opposing polavara, pranahitha or any such projects.

http://www.threegorgesprobe.org/probeint/threegorges/tgp/tgp 12.html
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Indiarocks:

Kishan reddy walks out protesting delay in Pranahita-Chevella project



I knew this was coming .. anduke edhavalu ani BJP ni matrame mention chesi jagratta paddanu .. JP gari paristhithi enti? walk out/protest edi cheyyaleda aa project meeda?
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Btw, high court lo already case undi.




who cares..polavaram project is a project that was concepualised by the britishers, noone had the guts to take it up...YSR did it...daniki kuda court lo cases vesaru...so what and who cares....pranahitha is a neccessary project for providing water for 7 telangana districts which house the state capital. What is the revenue generated from these regions...and what is the investment on pranahitha.
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PS: I knoe 3 gorges is not a lift irrigation project...nuvvu pranahitha is not economically viable ante cheppanu...3 gorges gurinchi kuda alane annaru ani.




Link plz, afaik 3 gorges had huge environmental concerns, not economical concerns.
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Btw, high court lo already case undi.



case unte .. aa project ela take up chestunnaru?

sare .. BJP/TDP ante vote bank politics .. what happened to LS?
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Kishan reddy walks out protesting delay in Pranahita-Chevella project

http://news.oneindia.in/2008/03/15/tdp-bjp-stage-walkout-in- ap-assembly-1205582624.html


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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 02:21 pm:       

TDP pranahita ki full support. Padayatra kooda chesaru/


we are in a situation in A.p , if one party starts a project or freebie program.

no one can say outrightly or agsinst the program.


only loksatta to major extent is saying .

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Polavaram generates 960MW, pranahita needs 3375MW. LMAO




polavaram is one of the sources...YSR govt has planned for generations of 13000MW of power and how is spending about 4000W of it not justifyable to provide drinking and irrigation water facilities to 7 telangana districts and the state capital which delivers about 30% of the state revenue?

PS: I knoe 3 gorges is not a lift irrigation project...nuvvu pranahitha is not economically viable ante cheppanu...3 gorges gurinchi kuda alane annaru ani.
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 02:20 pm:       


Kamal:

mari high court/supreme court ki vellakunda enduku oorukunnaru opposition party edhavalu including BJP???




Vote bank politics
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Kamal:

mari high court/supreme court ki vellakunda enduku oorukunnaru opposition party edhavalu including BJP???




kinda post choodandi mastaru. Telangana vaste 1lakh udyogalu ani KCR cheppinatlu, Pranahita ni baga advertise chesaru. Padayatralu chesi emotions raise chesaru. Project next term ki elago complete avvadu. Oppose cheste votes veyakapovachu. Tax payer money waste aithe ayyindi.

Btw, high court lo already case undi.
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Although the Government claims that the capital cost comes to Rs.2.5 lakh per acre, it is likely to shoot up to Rs.5 lakh by the time the scheme is completed. In addition, the scheme involves a recurring expenditure of Rs.50,000 an acre on operation and maintenance.



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TDP pranahita ki full support. Padayatra kooda chesaru...
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 02:15 pm:       

1.18 lakh crore of the total Rs.1.75 lakh //

ane jp lekkala prakaram ayithe 65 percent waste of jalayaganam.

edo okatile atleast aa 35 percent anna , lets use it.
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Although the Government claims that the capital cost comes to Rs.2.5 lakh per acre, it is likely to shoot up to Rs.5 lakh by the time the scheme is completed. In addition, the scheme involves a recurring expenditure of Rs.50,000 an acre on operation and maintenance.//

manaki avi anavasaram raithuku nillu ichama leda ani seppamanru congeyulu .
ysr ki teliyada enti aa project valla entha use vudno .

adhi elaghu complete kadu ani telsuu.

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http://www.loksatta.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&vie w=article&id=367&Itemid=66


Dr. JP recalled that as Collector of Prakasam district he took up small lift irrigation schemes and brought two lakh acres under irrigation at a cost of Rs.2000 per acre.
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Kamal:

telusa .. telusa ane badulu meeku telisthe pettachu ga ikkada ..
alage 38.5k lo .. corruption enta? actual cost enta? anni savivaram ga pettandi .. anni bayatikostayi ..




Although the Government claims that the capital cost comes to Rs.2.5 lakh per acre, it is likely to shoot up to Rs.5 lakh by the time the scheme is completed. In addition, the scheme involves a recurring expenditure of Rs.50,000 an acre on operation and maintenance.
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Guriginja:

3 gorges mention chesindi adhi kuuda economically not viable ane annaru so called medhavulu sala mandi...google sesukoo...LOL.....kindakelli malli chaduvu..




Again 3 gorges DAM lift irrigation DAM kadu. It is expected to pay for itself in 10 yrs. It does NOT USE electricity, so very less maintenance costs. Pranahita lift irrigation dam. Deeniki, daniki comparison? LOL

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polavaram yenduku kaduthunnaro cheppa.....oka daggara generate chesindi inkodaggara use cheyyocchu..as long as the purpose is served...LOL




Polavaram generates 960MW, pranahita needs 3375MW. LMAO
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Inkoka disadvantage, bigger the project, larger the scope for corruption.
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But there is not even a convincing explanation from the Govt. to counter his argument. That matters the most to me.



idi nenu defend cheyyanu .. cheyyalenu .. Congress/YSR fans choosukovaali .. if they did give an explanation as to why they did not consider JPs plan or if they indeed did, what made them not follow it !!!

I am out .. pakkana Modi thread esaa .. janalaki tissue box istoo undaali thread lo ..
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3 gorges dam produces electricity, pranahita uses it




potlanna gurthupettukosami malli navuduvu....LOL..3 gorges mention chesindi adhi kuuda economically not viable ane annaru so called medhavulu sala mandi...google sesukoo...LOL.....kindakelli malli chaduvu..polavaram yenduku kaduthunnaro cheppa.....oka daggara generate chesindi inkodaggara use cheyyocchu..as long as the purpose is served...LOL
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Kamal:

what are the disadvantages? does it cater to the needs of same number of people as of now? naaku idea ledu .. why did you people not convince the officials in secrateriat or even normal junta ??? nenu mee LS view gurinchi chadavaledu ee topic lo .. so I cannot comment more .. but maree gross ga intha best idea isthe LS .. they will atleast consider and say why they are not implementing it ..




already court lo case vesaru. A section of experts started agreeing to this. Same number of ppl ante, they just have to put in more number of these small scale projects. Simply put, if one project is scrapped, it will waste a few 100 crores. It would have paid a good part of it. Less risk.

Pranahita if goes ahead, will be world's biggest lift irrigation scheme. Asalu intha expenditure unnappudu world renowned experts tho survey undali. Undo ledo manam news lo choosamu. Antha survey unte, sakshi cover cheyakunda vadultada?

I never said that JP could be 100% right. But there is not even a convincing explanation from the Govt. to counter his argument. That matters the most to me.
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Indiarocks:

About 40% of the generated electricity is lost in the transmission, coz of poor infra. Improve the grid, and infra, then free power becomes viable. This has already been implemented successfully as a pilot project in a village.



what are costs for improving power infra?

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LS proposed smaller, scattered lift irrigation schemes instead of large ones. Advantages-



what are the disadvantages? does it cater to the needs of same number of people as of now? naaku idea ledu .. why did you people not convince the officials in secrateriat or even normal junta ??? nenu mee LS view gurinchi chadavaledu ee topic lo .. so I cannot comment more .. but maree gross ga intha best idea isthe LS .. they will atleast consider and say why they are not implementing it ..

my only problem with jalayagnam is .. corruption .. adi pothe .. I guess state will save atleast 30% costs .. which means .. almost 30-40K crores .. huuuge money ..
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 01:53 pm:       

mastaru corruption ki lekkalu undavu. 38.5k is the official estimate. This is bound to increase to at least 50k crores. Added to that is 50k per acre, per yr maintenance, with today's electricity costs. It can shoot up to 1-2 lakhs over the yrs.

Polavaram generates 960MW of power. Pranahita uses 3375MW. Polavaram supplying power to pranahita

3 gorges dam aa. 3 gorges dam produces electricity, pranahita uses it.
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what will LS or you do for agriculture in telangana and food security of India .. rendu mukkallo ettayyandi .. I am no "expert" in lift irrigation .. I admit




LS proposed smaller, scattered lift irrigation schemes instead of large ones. Advantages-

1. Water need not be pumped to monumental altitudes. What they are attempting is 5 times the altitude of the largest lift irrigation project in the US, a country with no acute power shortage.

Why it will be viable? Coz, T has comparable rainfall to Andhra. Only problem is that river flow at a lower altitude than the cultivated land. With one huge project we are allowing water to collect at one place, and then are pumping it up. Instead of that, if water is collected at smaller such points, at higher altutude, we need to pump it to only lesser altitude.

About 40% of the generated electricity is lost in the transmission, coz of poor infra. Improve the grid, and infra, then free power becomes viable. This has already been implemented successfully as a pilot project in a village.
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Pranahita lift irrigation project costs about 38.5k crores. Per acre cost - both for construction, and maintenance. Per acre revenue entho telusa?




the purpose of pranahitha is not just irrigation, but supply drinking water to the hyderabad and surrounding areas and it is totally worth the money spent...yd can't take anymore ani daanni kuda inkekkadikanna move cheseyyala? picchi project ani national intrest krinda consider chesthunnara? govt. is not a business, some things have to be done. They are viable economically and are necessary....sea water drinking ki use chesanu karchu ani saudi vaadu waste gaadanukovala..chinalo 3 gorges kaduthunte its a waste ani yendaroo annaru..ipuudemantunnaru.
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Abbo picha comedy, Pranahita lift irrigation project costs about 38.5k crores. Per acre cost - both for construction, and maintenance. Per acre revenue entho telusa?

Polavaram produce chese electricity entha, pranahita ki kavalsindi entha?



telusa .. telusa ane badulu meeku telisthe pettachu ga ikkada ..

alage 38.5k lo .. corruption enta? actual cost enta? anni savivaram ga pettandi .. anni bayatikostayi ..
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yem chepthunnav saami....lift irrigation projects ee roju kottha annatlu chepthunnav ga.......siachen tho polchadam inko pedda buthu...siachen lo yevvaru leru...akkada dabbu tagalesthu...janalani kuda akkadiki tholithe adi comedy...telangana and other regions upland areas lo janalu ee roju kotthaga vunara....they have been living there for thousands of yrs and people are still doing the same old agriculutre at all these places in majority...vaallandarini inka tharimeyala...LOL

the very purpose of polavaram is to generate power for all the lift irrigation projects...anduke antha importance icchi concentrate chesaru aa project meeda....inka lift irrigation gurinchi ikkada chaduvu..there is a good case study based on kanuparthy lift irrigation project.




Abbo picha comedy, Pranahita lift irrigation project costs about 38.5k crores. Per acre cost - both for construction, and maintenance. Per acre revenue entho telusa?

Polavaram produce chese electricity entha, pranahita ki kavalsindi entha?
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Inka artham kakapothe lite theesko.



I think we better do this ..

but as a last try .. what will LS or you do for agriculture in telangana and food security of India .. rendu mukkallo ettayyandi .. I am no "expert" in lift irrigation .. I admit !
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ika cotton dora andhra lo enduku kattadu .. telangana lo enduku kattaledu .. ee thread ki sambandinchina vishayaalu kaadu .. nenu cheptunnadi simple .. oka project (be it srisailam .. nagarjuna sagar .. bakranangal ) edanna sare .. viable avvadaaniki almost 15-20 years time padutundi .. ee lift irrigation projects ki .. 30 years padatayi anukundaam .. but still tappadu .. bcos .. mana population ki food security kaavali ante .. we have no other option .. good economics gurinchi telisina vaadu evvadu .. vere countries meeda depend avvadam correct ani cheppadu .. more so .. ee era lo ..




mastaru, kinda okasari cheppanu, Telangana lo eeroju attempt chestunna projects ki british era lo kattina projs ki polika ledu. They were not LIFT IRRIGATION projects.

You are talking without proper knowledge on the economics of Lift Irrigation schemes. Nagarjuna sagar etc, are natural projects. Water is NOT being pumped UP. So they will pay off for themselves. Why? Coz, their maintenance costs are LESS per acre, than the revenue per acre.

HUGE lift irrigation projects, on the otherhand work on POWER. Water is pumped UP. They need MOTORS, and POWER to do it. Cost per ACRE, is much HIGHER. I am talking just the MAINTENANCE COSTS, forget about the invested CAPITAL. They can never pay off for themselves.

Added to that we have severe power shortage already. All the 50k crores will be a waste if we do not have enough power to run the motors. Such projects were scrapped even in the US, where there is no such acute shortage of power. Also what they are doing is letting the water flow down the terrain, and again trying to pump it up. IMHO this is stupid.

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FYI, brits did not invest on lift irrigation schemes. Something that needs a continuous supply of power. Something that needs resources (that are limited) to be spent on it every yr.

Irrigation projects meeda min knowledge unnavallu evaru lift irrigation schemes ni, natural projects ni compare cheyaru. Same cotton dora Telangana lo velli enduku project kattaledu?




yem chepthunnav saami....lift irrigation projects ee roju kottha annatlu chepthunnav ga.......siachen tho polchadam inko pedda buthu...siachen lo yevvaru leru...akkada dabbu tagalesthu...janalani kuda akkadiki tholithe adi comedy...telangana and other regions upland areas lo janalu ee roju kotthaga vunara....they have been living there for thousands of yrs and people are still doing the same old agriculutre at all these places in majority...vaallandarini inka tharimeyala...LOL

the very purpose of polavaram is to generate power for all the lift irrigation projects...anduke antha importance icchi concentrate chesaru aa project meeda....inka lift irrigation gurinchi ikkada chaduvu..there is a good case study based on kanuparthy lift irrigation project.

http://www.liftirrigation.org/html/case_study.html
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Oho, lekapothe Telangana lo inko dhawaleswaram barrage undeda? Ante inka geographical factors emi undava? Andaru irrigation engineers ye.



babu gaaru .. there are hundreds of factors as to why a dam is built at a place .. geography okkate kaadu .. bastar adavullo .. sabari river meeda most suitable geography to build a dam undi ani akkada katteyyaru kada .. common sense .. janam ekkada unte .. aa place ki feasible distance lo dams kadataru .. not 100s of miles away .. bcoz .. they have favorable geography !

nenu irrigation engineer kaadu lendi .. but edo naakunna telivi tho cheptunna idi !
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YSR/Congress pathakaalu :D




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Oho, lekapothe Telangana lo inko dhawaleswaram barrage undeda? Ante inka geographical factors emi undava? Andaru irrigation engineers ye.




what about sagar is it in andra!!!

correct ga right canal ni T'gana ki vadilithe 3/4 of T would have been cultivated
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Machomegastar:

b'coz t'gana was ruled by nizam that time




Oho, lekapothe Telangana lo inko dhawaleswaram barrage undeda? Ante inka geographical factors emi undava? Andaru irrigation engineers ye.
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Indiarocks:

Do you know something? Water crisis ki prone countries lo No. 1 is India. Because of being hugely reliant on ground water for agriculture.



haha .. India lo maximum agriculture .. monsoons season lo jarugutundi .. oka sari kanukkondi .. bhoomi tiragadam aagipoyina roju bhadha padali manam .. ika ground water gurinchi cheppalante .. yes, we also use ground water .. but not to the extent that we depend on rivers, canals and monsoons !!! if u have any contradicting supporting documents .. I have no probs to agree with u !

ika cotton dora andhra lo enduku kattadu .. telangana lo enduku kattaledu .. ee thread ki sambandinchina vishayaalu kaadu .. nenu cheptunnadi simple .. oka project (be it srisailam .. nagarjuna sagar .. bakranangal ) edanna sare .. viable avvadaaniki almost 15-20 years time padutundi .. ee lift irrigation projects ki .. 30 years padatayi anukundaam .. but still tappadu .. bcos .. mana population ki food security kaavali ante .. we have no other option .. good economics gurinchi telisina vaadu evvadu .. vere countries meeda depend avvadam correct ani cheppadu .. more so .. ee era lo ..
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pakka manishi buddi tappu ledhu....yellow kukkala morugudu kotha kadhu...inka pedha nakka edupu 30 years nundi undhi...white collar mafia...

free current tho kadupu nindindhi..jebulo dabbu undhi ...
arogya sree walla pranalu arogyam pondam...
runa mafi walla kooturi pelli chesam...
pavala wadi tho labdhi pondam...
indiramma intlo tala dacukunnam...

eppudu panikirani padakalu ayyayi...

ware wa ...

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Indiarocks:

Do you know something? Water crisis ki prone countries lo No. 1 is India. Because of being hugely reliant on ground water for agriculture.




Forgot adding this, thanks to our free power policies.

And even that free power, we CAN do it, if we can save from transmission losses. US lo ippudu matladutunnaru new power grid ani. It has already been proved in AP, in a village. By improving transmission infra, new transformers, power loss in transmission (which is about 40%, or more today in India), we can provide 24hr power to all villages, without purchasing even a megawatt more than what we have today.
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Indiarocks:

Irrigation projects meeda min knowledge unnavallu evaru lift irrigation schemes ni, natural projects ni compare cheyaru. Same cotton dora Telangana lo velli enduku project kattaledu?




b'coz t'gana was ruled by nizam that time
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Kamal:

meeku ardam kavatledu .. last 2-3 years .. world is facing a huge food crisis .. India ki advantage .. agricultural expertise .. alage .. anni siachen tho equalient avvavu .. telangana lo pande jonna, guntur lo pande mirch, pasupu, tobacco, andhra, kurnool dhaanyam .. etc .. ivi anni subsidies pedda ga lekunda manage chestayi .. verevi like .. pulses, sugar cane, etc ki koddiga subsidies isthe .. people can manage to produce .. when there is scarcity of food in the world, you cannot produce and them import it for higher prices .. and lastly .. telangana or andhra lo free current ivvadam is not equalent to agriculture in siachen .. thats totally ridiculous ! telangana ki andhra ki zameen aasmaan farak padadu costs lo .. we need green-revolution 2 .. daaniki we need to use all the water we have and become self-reliant .. anthe kaani .. oka 10-20% extra costs avutunnayi ani .. subsidies maanukoru ..

ala aithe ... cotton dora barriage kattadaaniki same logic use chesi unte .. andhra paristhithi ento nenu cheppakarledu .. aa rojullo delta lo karuvu vachi aakali chavulu undevi !!! and brits invested hugely for that barriage across godavari at dhawaleswaram .. aa taravata nimmadi ga viable ayyindi .. anywhere its the same !!! simple long term planning ..




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Kamal:

meeku ardam kavatledu .. last 2-3 years .. world is facing a huge food crisis .. India ki advantage .. agricultural expertise .. alage .. anni siachen tho equalient avvavu .. telangana lo pande jonna, guntur lo pande mirch, pasupu, tobacco, andhra, kurnool dhaanyam .. etc .. ivi anni subsidies pedda ga lekunda manage chestayi .. verevi like .. pulses, sugar cane, etc ki koddiga subsidies isthe .. people can manage to produce .. when there is scarcity of food in the world, you cannot produce and them import it for higher prices .. and lastly .. telangana or andhra lo free current ivvadam is not equalent to agriculture in siachen .. thats totally ridiculous ! telangana ki andhra ki zameen aasmaan farak padadu costs lo .. we need green-revolution 2 .. daaniki we need to use all the water we have and become self-reliant .. anthe kaani .. oka 10-20% extra costs avutunnayi ani .. subsidies maanukoru ..

ala aithe ... cotton dora barriage kattadaaniki same logic use chesi unte .. andhra paristhithi ento nenu cheppakarledu .. aa rojullo delta lo karuvu vachi aakali chavulu undevi !!! and brits invested hugely for that barriage across godavari at dhawaleswaram .. aa taravata nimmadi ga viable ayyindi .. anywhere its the same !!! simple long term planning ..




Do you know something? Water crisis ki prone countries lo No. 1 is India. Because of being hugely reliant on ground water for agriculture.

FYI, brits did not invest on lift irrigation schemes. Something that needs a continuous supply of power. Something that needs resources (that are limited) to be spent on it every yr.

Irrigation projects meeda min knowledge unnavallu evaru lift irrigation schemes ni, natural projects ni compare cheyaru. Same cotton dora Telangana lo velli enduku project kattaledu?
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Indiarocks:

Intha telsina varu, agriculture kosam entha aina invest cheyali ani ela cheptunnaru mastaru.

Food security kosam invest cheyali, but not without taking into account the geographical factors. Mana country lo agriculture ki highly suitable areas unnayi, and some areas are not so suitable. Some of the projects started/promoted by the cong Govt. are comparable to attempting farming in the siachen glacier.



meeku ardam kavatledu .. last 2-3 years .. world is facing a huge food crisis .. India ki advantage .. agricultural expertise .. alage .. anni siachen tho equalient avvavu .. telangana lo pande jonna, guntur lo pande mirch, pasupu, tobacco, andhra, kurnool dhaanyam .. etc .. ivi anni subsidies pedda ga lekunda manage chestayi .. verevi like .. pulses, sugar cane, etc ki koddiga subsidies isthe .. people can manage to produce .. when there is scarcity of food in the world, you cannot produce and them import it for higher prices .. and lastly .. telangana or andhra lo free current ivvadam is not equalent to agriculture in siachen .. thats totally ridiculous ! telangana ki andhra ki zameen aasmaan farak padadu costs lo .. we need green-revolution 2 .. daaniki we need to use all the water we have and become self-reliant .. anthe kaani .. oka 10-20% extra costs avutunnayi ani .. subsidies maanukoru ..

ala aithe ... cotton dora barriage kattadaaniki same logic use chesi unte .. andhra paristhithi ento nenu cheppakarledu .. aa rojullo delta lo karuvu vachi aakali chavulu undevi !!! and brits invested hugely for that barriage across godavari at dhawaleswaram .. aa taravata nimmadi ga viable ayyindi .. anywhere its the same !!! simple long term planning ..
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we already do that if you realize well .. through your income taxes .. muncipal taxes etc .. govt emi chetlaki dabbulu tempatledu ippudu roads veyyadaaniki .. and resources finish aipothe .. noru and remaining vi kooda moosukuni .. unna vaati thone gadapaali .. paper meeda currency print chesinanta easy kaadu kada resources ni regenerate cheyyadam !




Intha telsina varu, agriculture kosam entha aina invest cheyali ani ela cheptunnaru mastaru.

Food security kosam invest cheyali, but not without taking into account the geographical factors. Mana country lo agriculture ki highly suitable areas unnayi, and some areas are not so suitable. Some of the projects started/promoted by the cong Govt. are comparable to attempting farming in the siachen glacier.
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.. muncipal taxes etc .. govt emi chetlaki dabbulu tempatledu ippudu roads veyyadaaniki .. and resources finish aipothe .. noru and remaining vi kooda moosukuni .. unna vaati thone gadapaali .. paper meeda currency print chesinanta easy kaadu kada resources ni regenerate cheyyadam !//

Right now there is no accountability .

so in future there will be .
 

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Nippu:

A day will come when everyone have to build their own roads . i mena if there arer ten houses ina street , they have ato pay for it .

so many things like that .

that day is not too far.



we already do that if you realize well .. through your income taxes .. muncipal taxes etc .. govt emi chetlaki dabbulu tempatledu ippudu roads veyyadaaniki .. and resources finish aipothe .. noru and remaining vi kooda moosukuni .. unna vaati thone gadapaali .. paper meeda currency print chesinanta easy kaadu kada resources ni regenerate cheyyadam !
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Nippu:

A day will come when everyone have to build their own roads . i mena if there arer ten houses ina street , they have ato pay for it .




What makes you think ppl are not paying for their roads today.
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2 rs kg biyyam NTR ichinapudu devudu...

cash trasfer setta anna babu ..adhe lokesh telivi na boo na baaa...

100 ki wanta pedha wadi panta...

bottomline sette meme seyyali

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Indiarocks:

food security ani siachen glacier lo evaru farm pettaru kada? geographical factors etc choosukora? oka place lo 40k per acre, inkoka place lo 4k per acre karchu unte 4k daggara farming encourage cheyali, 40k daggara alternative occupations encourage cheyali. 40k irrigation ki petti, aa land meeda kanisam 20k kooda return rakapothe, enni yrs bharistaru?



I do not know what made you get these impractical examples .. but whatever is viable has to be encouraged ..

my example - India produces finest quality sugar .. our sugar costs Rs 9 per KG .. last year we had a huge deficit of sugar .. govt procured inferior quality of sugar from pak for 17Rs per KG when it was high time .. had the govt planned well and provided good rate like Rs 12 per KG .. India lo ne many farmers would have produced sugar cane .. and more importantly, you would not be funding your enemy to fight you .. through giving business and profits ! same case .. wheat vishayam lo last 3-4 years .. USA ki billions of $ business ichaamu ! think about those and come back !

siachen lo sugar cane pandinchataniki subsidies ivvali ani cheppara evaranna ikkada?
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inta gelichi ratcha gelavamannaaaru pedhdhalu ..

inta gelchaadu rajasekharudu ..

bayatodu ratcha chesthe who cares ..

inko 5 years undi unte it would have been a different story ..

:-(
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entha lakam govt free subsidies thoti janalni poshisthundhi .


innalu congresss high comamdn nidra poyinda , congress govt istutne free bies.

ee roju nidra legisindha central govt.

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AndhraPradesh ante jealousy tho edchi chace vaallu colleagues,college mates few years back ;

ippudu moham meedhe navvutunnaru congress jesina daridraalaki....okata renda...mottham nakinchesaaru




 

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A day will come when everyone have to build their own roads . i mena if there arer ten houses ina street , they have ato pay for it .

so many things like that .

that day is not too far.
 

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Kamal:

cheppanu ga .. aa 3 securities kosam .. emaina pettali .. tappadu .. bcoz .. countries collapse, we have enough of examples in the last 20 years .. when any of those 3 go wrong .. period !




food security ani siachen glacier lo evaru farm pettaru kada? geographical factors etc choosukora? oka place lo 40k per acre, inkoka place lo 4k per acre karchu unte 4k daggara farming encourage cheyali, 40k daggara alternative occupations encourage cheyali. 40k irrigation ki petti, aa land meeda kanisam 20k kooda return rakapothe, enni yrs bharistaru?
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Indiarocks:

PRP - We support Arogyasree.
TDP - We support Argoyasree
BJP - We support Arogyasree



everybody supports aarogya sri .. but not the corruption behind it .. not the collapse of public health sector .. I am sure u understand this ..

Indiarocks:

Mastaru, karchu pettachu sare, pettina daniki tirigi vache daniki relation undadda? Ippudunna projects lo large scale lift irrigation projects unnayi. Money undi, karchu pettagaligina US lone intha pedda lift irrigation projs success avvaledu. Agriculture kosam enthaina pettacha? Ante geographical factors, etc choosukora? rashtram diwala theesina kooda pedathara?




cheppanu ga .. aa 3 securities kosam .. emaina pettali .. tappadu .. bcoz .. countries collapse, we have enough of examples in the last 20 years .. when any of those 3 go wrong .. period !

Indiarocks:

AP lo malaria lo chanipoyevallu 1000s lo unnaru every yr. Daniki mandulu levu mana daggara, oka 10 heart operations chesthe sambara padadamu.



cheppedi ade .. aarogya sri anedi .. stop gap ga use cheyyali .. for a period of 1-2 years .. while public health system is revamped .. anthe kaani .. corporate hospitals ki dochipettadaanni .. I think no body supports ..
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Kamal:

Poor people upliftment ki extra spend cheyyadam lo tappu ledu .. "vyavasayam dandaga" lanti maatalu tappu .. country ki 3 security lu avasaram .. ee globalised world lo .. a) military security b) energy security c) food security

ee mooditi kosam .. enthaina karchu pettachu ..




Mastaru, karchu pettachu sare, pettina daniki tirigi vache daniki relation undadda? Ippudunna projects lo large scale lift irrigation projects unnayi. Money undi, karchu pettagaligina US lone intha pedda lift irrigation projs success avvaledu. Agriculture kosam enthaina pettacha? Ante geographical factors, etc choosukora? rashtram diwala theesina kooda pedathara?

PRP - We support Arogyasree.
TDP - We support Argoyasree
BJP - We support Arogyasree

AP lo malaria lo chanipoyevallu 1000s lo unnaru every yr. Daniki mandulu levu mana daggara, oka 10 heart operations chesthe sambara padadamu.
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hihi ... idi PRP party announce chesi EBC annaka hutahutina teesukunna nirnayam .. elections avvagane antaa hulakki annaru anta ...

YSR ni tappu pattadaniki emi ledu ... pedavadu anevadiki YSR baagaa chesadu ... This I realize during my last visit to India...

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 11:37 am:       

naa opinion ..

1) planning commission oka dandaga institution .. few good officers and many many idiots !!! planning commission reports lo .. 1950s nunchi ippati daaka .. desaniki upayoga padda 3 schemes teesukuni randi ..

2) Poor people upliftment ki extra spend cheyyadam lo tappu ledu .. "vyavasayam dandaga" lanti maatalu tappu .. country ki 3 security lu avasaram .. ee globalised world lo .. a) military security b) energy security c) food security

ee mooditi kosam .. enthaina karchu pettachu ..

3) YSR hayaam lo corruption unna maata vastavam .. Aarogya Sri ala vachina scheme ee. Aarogya Sri lo insurance chesina company (star alliance or something) - andulo YSR ki commission vache vidham ga design chesukunnaru ..

4) Jalayagnam lo dams kattakunda kalavalu tavvi .. ratri ki ratri mobilsation advances release chesi .. ratri ki ratri .. quotes marchesi .. ilanti chendaalalu chala chesaru .. ee DB lo ne chala mandi contractors unnaru ga .. vaallu first hand proof ivvagalaru !

Bottom line - Planning Commission should STFU and do its job. AP govt should stop waste expenditure, favoritism, nepotism and more importantly corruption !!!
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pionerr state was MP...digvijay singh.registrations baga sepinchi kadupulu nimpadanta CBN....yentha carefree ga chepthunnaro chudu...pans...LOL



Idle_yzag:

manakanna mundhu chala mandhi chesaru, ex: Karnataka



E-Governance first project evaru chesaaro teleedu kaani, First in India to implement E-Governance on a Managed Services model is AP in 2001 I think. Ikkada Managed Services ante definition is "Pay as you go" type. Vendor will own all the infrastructure and Govt will just pay as per use. Deenni AP Govt Cisco, Intel and TCS (??) tho kalisi chesindi. This has become a role model after that for all e-Governance implementations. This is 100% true. I heard it direct from Intel MD who worked on this at that time.

NISG, the body who spearheads country wide e-Governance initiatives is based out of Hyderabad. If MP or Karnataka started these initiatives I dont know why this is set up in Hyderabad
 

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Onlytruth:

guri annay nijam jeppu....




anni papers pogidina vatini vaadu highlight chesi rasadu..
JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE
 

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tidithe pogidaaru ani rasukodam asalu highlight...J fans kuda navvukune laga rasukuntadu sakshi lo...

guri annay nijam jeppu....desam lo unna anni patrikalu planning comission dobbulettindhi ani rasthe J anna ki adhi pogidinattu endukanipinchindhi ?
 

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Kadapanagfan:

Time maadu kabatti mooosuko ledu meeeru Manam Support chesey PRP intha kannnna freeebies cheppindi!!!idi matttadithey aaa vishyalu yetti Kummautaru ani silent ga unnaru!!!

Ika TDP freee cash transfer!!!Malllla YSR patakala gurinchi commenting!!!

YSR pathakalu antey AP lo pedavadi GUNDEY chappppudu!!!




yes you're right.. kani vallu promise cheseru YSR .. implement cheseru..
so YSR ni blame chestaru as those are YSR's pet proj's..

and PRP and CBN ee schemes announce cheseru ante malli.. daniki indirect
gaa YSR ee reason kada.. YSr anni free annapudu.. velle chepakapothe

PRP ki ee 18 kuda ravu..
NTR range alantidhi aa time ki....appatiki national politics lo vajpayee,chandrasekhar lanti vallaki NTR range ledhu... per OT
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:53 am:       

100 Rs ku mottttam Preee annnapppudu PRP karyakartalaku telyada tapppu!!!

Free cash transfer annnapppudu TDP valllaku tekyadha!!!Janala nu yennni rakaluga M kudipionchalo aaaa rakam pathalkalu avi!!!

Kaaani maaavi

pedavadiki 2 rs rice
adapaduchulaku pavala vaddddi
btech students ku freee education
pedavadiki corporate vidhya
Raitulaku free current

Ila list endlesss

Jai jawan Jai kisan

 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:50 am:       


Bunty717:

CBN enduku ippudu




Nuvvvu cheppinatttu memmu Dsico cheyyyyala????

CBN Pans commenting kabattti chestaru!!!ayina defending yendi ademmma suit tie yesukoni yeee pataku vaaddddu antey aaaadi maaata vinala???

Mahanubhavudu batikunnna rojullllo World Bank vallla maaataley aaaath care ani cheyyalsindi chesadu!!!off course yeee roju ledu naaaaku nammmakam ledu aaa patakalu nilabadatayi ani!!!
 

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Bunty717:

time valladi kabatti andaram musukunnam...




Time maadu kabatti mooosuko ledu meeeru Manam Support chesey PRP intha kannnna freeebies cheppindi!!!idi matttadithey aaa vishyalu yetti Kummautaru ani silent ga unnaru!!!

Ika TDP freee cash transfer!!!Malllla YSR patakala gurinchi commenting!!!

YSR pathakalu antey AP lo pedavadi GUNDEY chappppudu!!!

Pedavaaki 2rs Biyyyam Free education Arogyasri pavala vaddddi wat else!!!
 

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Guriginja:

revere lo vellindi CBN time lo....s




CBN enduku ippudu.. YSR and YSR schemes ni defend chesukoo..
NTR range alantidhi aa time ki....appatiki national politics lo vajpayee,chandrasekhar lanti vallaki NTR range ledhu... per OT
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:41 am:       

ee points otherthan YSR fans andaru chepperu..

kani appudu YSR is king of kings annaru .. schemes super annaru..
time valladi kabatti andaram musukunnam...

ippudu vallani planning commission musokomanindi..kiki
NTR range alantidhi aa time ki....appatiki national politics lo vajpayee,chandrasekhar lanti vallaki NTR range ledhu... per OT
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:31 am:       


Kdnumber1:


vuncle aa Link lo lekapote e-Seva start chesinadi CBN kakunda potunda


appu ehes, E-governance first mee babu start chesadu ani cheppadu mee OT, last ki E-seva ki vachadu which is only restrained to only cities, ippudu prathi muncipality ki expand chesaru and you can setup your own E-seva by making contract with TCS.... aa time lo all states implment chesthunte mana vadu kuda implement chesadu... dhaniki bill gates ki PPT color isthe yela
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Idle_yzag:

vinnevallu vunte Billgates ki PPT nerpinchadu ani chebutharu.. ofcourse ippatiki AP lo alane sebutharu, lol







america lo yevadu kanapadina hello...how are you anadam common...kadha...okkosari shake hand kuda istharu..adhi susi babu garu...nannu bills( gates and clinton)..naa yoga kshemalu adigaru ani peel ayipoyi vubbi tabbibbavadam...daniki rangulesi tatikayantha accharalatho tatha rayadam.....okarakanga kuda kanapadaledhu veellaki janalu.....LOL
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:27 am:       

OT ,Guri and other BIGGIEs,

Planning commission report meedha intha blood boiling avasaram ledhu...

many experts want to scrap the existing planning commision.. its irrelevant in these times.. Planning commision was a Nehru's kid borrowed from socialist russia.. ippudu manam capitalism...

Infact the presence of Planning commission is itself a HUGE NON Plan expenditure.. but parties are continuing it and using it as a shelter for political leaders...

Planning commission maatalu vinte india lo ee okka GOVT survive kaaledhu
 

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Idle_yzag:

aa links first bollibabu chesadu ani vunda, lol




vuncle aa Link lo lekapote e-Seva start chesinadi CBN kakunda potunda....kikkiik
Yellow Color Chuste Vugipovatam - Asperger's Syndrome(My name is khan lo SRK vunna Syndrome)
 

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look at the two links below from years 2000 and 2002 LOL....digvijay sing villages ki tesukellinantha yevvadu teesukellaledhu....period...there was an article in frontline....kakhapothe yemi cheyani daniki kuda color potos tho vudaragotte paccha papers levu vaallaki paapam....adi maatram chethagani thaname...LOL

2000

http://submit.apnic.net/mailing-lists/s-asia-it/archive/2000 /04/msg00048.html

2002..

http://submit.apnic.net/mailing-lists/s-asia-it/archive/2000 /04/msg00048.html


opiga google setthe kuppalu dorukuthayi....yevadikayina...
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Woodpecker:

manodu kaadu tag ledu andukey villan


manodu ante yevadu gajjesh uncle


Onlytruth:




aa links first bollibabu chesadu ani vunda, lol
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:20 am:       

2001 :
A.P. offers e-governance consultancy
http://www.hindu.com/2001/12/14/stories/2001121400410600.htm


Mari ivvala ?

E-Robbery , E-Decoits, "Earn Thousands of crores without penny of your own money " veeti paina J consultancy ettocchu
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:17 am:       

Financial Express Report :

E-Seva Sets A New Paradigm In Citizen Services


http://www.financialexpress.com/news/eseva-sets-a-new-paradi gm-in-citizen-services/75651/0
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:15 am:       


Idle_yzag:


manodu kaadu tag ledu andukey villan, goondas/factionists/dacoists ki tag unte worship
 

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2003 :

At a roundtable organised jointly with the CII on South-South Cooperation in IT, the UNDP's Associate Administrator and UN Under Secretary-General, Zephirin Diabre, said that India had both the skill sets required to offer high-end IT solutions to other developing countries as well as the experience in running e-governance projects like Andhra Pradesh's e-Seva initiative, which he said was worthy of emulation.

http://www.hindu.com/2003/11/14/stories/2003111404440400.htm
 

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Guriginja:


vinnevallu vunte Billgates ki PPT nerpinchadu ani chebutharu.. ofcourse ippatiki AP lo alane sebutharu, lol
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
 

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Onlytruth:

congress ye create jesina political uncertainity


yenti mee hand ledha induloo... asalu koncham kuda siggu padavee... OU 4 dobbina siggulekunda JAC sankanakaru papam lol
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
 

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Idle_yzag:

manakanna mundhu chala mandhi chesaru, ex: Karnataka




pionerr state was MP...digvijay singh.registrations baga sepinchi kadupulu nimpadanta CBN....yentha carefree ga chepthunnaro chudu...pans...LOL
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:09 am:       


Onlytruth:

E-governance ki india lone aadarsam, we implemented initially;

Registrations computerization jesaru..




janalaki yemi voragabettarayya ante...idhi sesara vaammo....idhi susi jealousy tho sacchipoyevaalla...




malli 50000 crores tecchi tagalesaru...more than 20000 crores unaccounted for...


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Onlytruth:

E-governance ki india lone aadarsam, we implemented initially;

Registrations computerization jesaru..




manakanna mundhu chala mandhi chesaru, ex: Karnataka
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
 

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Mannavaram lo NTPC-BHEL project okkati manchi jarigettu undhi anukunte again congress ye create jesina political uncertainity debbaki adhi kuda venakki poindhi...slow ga inko state lo settle avutaru NTPC
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:05 am:       

SEZ lu, Jalayagnam dopidi dopidiii........ekkadaina works jarugutunnaya asalu inkaa ? madhyalone aagipoyaayi.............already booodida lo posina lakshala kotlu govt funds evadu techisthaadu ?

last 5 yrs lo major investment okkati cheppandi...production disa ga velthunnadhi ?

nakinchesaru literal ga
 

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Onlytruth:

MNC investors ni attract jeyyaledhE ?


list pettaradu chadivi ananda padutaamu
 

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E-governance ki india lone aadarsam, we implemented initially;

Registrations computerization jesaru..


last 5 yrs lo emaina upgradation unda ? hehehe NO

nakinchesaaru ....


emaina unte IT boom time lo adhi ala jarigipoindhi antaru amayakulu kondaru...em IT boom time ni migilina states capitalize jesukolekapoyaye ? migilina states CBN attract jesinattu MNC investors ni attract jeyyaledhE ?
 

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Onlytruth:

AndhraPradesh ante jealousy tho edchi chace vaallu colleagues,college mates few years back ;


Aba Cha, vere edanna try cheyyi
 

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Onlytruth:

AndhraPradesh ante jealousy tho edchi chace vaallu colleagues,college mates few years back ;

ippudu moham meedhe navvutunnaru congress jesina daridraalaki....okata renda...mottham nakinchesaaru




aallaki CBN time lo velagapettina vati statistics supettu gila gila kottukuntaru bihar vodayina kuda idhigo itta navvuthadu....


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AndhraPradesh ante jealousy tho edchi chace vaallu colleagues,college mates few years back ;

ippudu moham meedhe navvutunnaru congress jesina daridraalaki....okata renda...mottham nakinchesaaru
 

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Kadapafan:

Planning Commission has given the thumbs down to practically every scheme launched by late chief minister Y S Rajasekhara Reddy during the last five years




Thumbs down + Practically + Every scheme ;

look at the stress on the keywords


inka em matladataro ee ysr fans, db undhi keyboard undhi ani type jeyyadam tappa
 

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Sachin:

single esaaaa.....




vaake thnx.
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Guriginja:




single esaaaa.....
 

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Progress Report Card : Failed with Distinction
Methhani-thodugu- SOFTWEAR ~ SOFTWARE
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eeee mukka andraikee thelusu...kaaani monna elachans lo eeeti babu lanti schemes thechaaaru.....apaudu aa schemes support sesinavaaaallu ipudu siggu lekundaa ivi wrong anatam.....maaamoolu comedy kaaadu
 

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assalu mana desam lo majority chaduvukunnolla arguments chusthe badhesthundi....manaki developped westren nations ki polike ledhu...everything given free is not a waste....that is the "responsibility" of the govt...esp. in countries like India.America lo the govt spened more than 35% or so on health care....dantlo kids health, medicare/medicaid gurinchi cheppakkarledhu...sameway lo canada, UK. france, etc....annidaggarla most of the helth benifits are free...levae alone health....maternity leave is a paid leave for 6 months or so...atuvantidi....laksha kotla budget lo 800 crores which is a meagre 8% health care ki spend chesthe adi kuda 66% of it for poor people adhi tappa...LOL....THAT IS WAAAAY LESS THAN WHAT IS TO BE DONE...we shoud be asking the govt to do more and bring more people into it....ika US lo agri ki govt support cheppakkarledhu...iowa, alaska lanti states ki govt yentha isthundi?

yevado gottam gadu who neber went to any village yedo sollesthe manchi chedda alochinchakunda aaa yadava comments chusi mana agenda serve avuthundi ani sankalu guddukunte...inka mana saduvulenduku.......ee thread lo padlsina first post......Sen sir, you are the chairman of a bongulu "planning commission" you are just acting like a questioning commission chair.....this is what our govt thinks is benefitial to people and you don't agree to it....fine then tell us how to do it..anthe gane....plan cheppakunda you are plain wrong anatam yendira sollu nayala ani adigundala akkadaki govt rep ga vellina waste chief secretary and all sankalu guddukune vaallu...
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industries ki infrastructure already ledu..ippudu power cuts..production..ghoram ga impact avutondi
 

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bongulo planning commission lu pedavallaki , raitulaki iche dappude veelaki ivanni gurthuku vastaayi.....industries ki entha subsidies istunnaro telisthe ee padakalu meedha spend chestundhi nothing.....padakalu chala varaku NTR initiate chesinave kadha mari appudu tappu anipinchaledha....kaakapothe YSR hayam lo anni levels lo bahiranga dopidi jarigindhi anedhi vastavam
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:56 am:       

>>vaammo bayapettesthunnaru gaa....LOL...inkosari sadivi sudandi..meeku adi comedy ga lekunte inka seppedem ledhu....

mee argument prakarame...godavari lo vaadiki vyavasayam seyalekunte polam ammithe 10 lakhs vasthundi....karimnagar lo vadiki aa luxary ledu....ammaledu ( vurlu vurlu ammukoni povalantaremo meru...LOL)...vyavasayam cheyyali tappadu...mari vadiki govt yemi cheyyali...cheyyakkarledha...kaneesam america lanti capitalist country lo atuvanti farmers ki, states ki yem chestharu telusukondi.....manadi socialist country...not even a capitalist country..LOL

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Kadapafan:

vere raastrala power situation gurinchi aithe ibbandi lekundaa cheptaa,




karnataka gurinchi cheppu....indra chepthunnadu monneemadyanee...
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//eppudo prajalu buddhi cheppi paiki pampaaru//

Meeru evari fan mahaseya. chala chandalam ga vundhi ee post.
http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm
 

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Diviseema:

confuse chesana. endho point matram vundhi ooopogga vethukko.





Kadapafan:

Diviseema:

Naaku Maa voorlo oka elluvundhi naaku nelaki 1000 adde vasthundhi. hyd lo okadiki ellu vundhi adde 10000 , 9 thousand cm isthada.

Godavari zillalo acre pollam 10 lakhs petti konukkuni vyavasam chesthe, kareemnager lo 1 lakh ki vasthundhi acre. so karremnager lo free current isthe , 10 lakhs petti polam konnodiki 9 lakhs esthara.

confuse chesana. endho point matram vundhi ooopogga vethukko.



gaa cheppav brother,




vaammo bayapettesthunnaru gaa....LOL...inkosari sadivi sudandi..meeku adi comedy ga lekunte inka seppedem ledhu....

mee argument prakarame...godavari lo vaadiki vyavasayam seyalekunte polam ammithe 10 lakhs vasthundi....karimnagar lo vadiki aa luxary ledu....ammaledu ( vurlu vurlu ammukoni povalantaremo meru...LOL)...vyavasayam cheyyali tappadu...mari vadiki govt yemi cheyyali...cheyyakkarledha...kaneesam america lanti capitalist country lo atuvanti farmers ki, states ki yem chestharu telusukondi.....manadi socialist country...not even a capitalist country..LOL
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Diviseema:

jarigina vishaylu matladukundam. anni pooti chesthe inko 20 vachhevani naa visvasam.




andaru kalisi poti chesthene avi vacchayi inka single ga poti chesthe inka takkuva vacchevi chaala simple logic..idi CBN ni adigina chebuthaadu anduke pottu pettukunnaadu
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:53 am:       

//YSR cheppina vi almost anni 5yrs icchadu //

cheppanivi kooda konni echhadu.

Rate lu perugudala.

Lands ammivetha

Bad Infrastructure

...............

Prapancham mottam kooda manchi bhoom lo CM ayyadu. Ap lo climate kooda baaga sahakarinchindhi. Inka entho cheyyochhu.
http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:51 am:       


Guriginja:



artham kaledhu bedar..clear ga cheppu...power ante public sambandinchinde kadha....enlighten us....manchi chedu telusukundam..matladadam...tapanipisthe oppukonu naaku problem ledhu.


public ki sambandinchindi ainaa naa daggara unna info private info (ofcourse RTI vesi evarinaa kanukkovachu, but RTI evaru vestaaru kaani), ikkada pettadam baagodu, since nannu aa circle lo parichayam chesina atanu appudappudu DBs choostaadu (not sure if he sees this DB though)

vere raastrala power situation gurinchi aithe ibbandi lekundaa cheptaa,
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:51 am:       

ayina inka ysr endi ahe...eppudo prajalu buddhi cheppi paiki pampaaru
 

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Diviseema:

confuse chesana. endho point matram vundhi ooopogga vethukko.



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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:50 am:       

//anni seats lo poti cheyalisindi avi kooda vacchevi kaavu...//

jarigina vishaylu matladukundam. anni pooti chesthe inko 20 vachhevani naa visvasam.
http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm
 

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Diviseema:

99 lo cbn kooda alage gelichadu.

2004 lo aalage annadu, but oodipoyadu. anadam valla emi jaragadhu. anadam valla , leka anakapodam valla manishi peddodu avvadu. paristhithulu anipisthai, anipinchavu. appudu ysr ki padaviledhu anni istha annadu. cbn ki eppudu power ledhu anni istha annadu. anthe theda.




YSR cheppina vi almost anni 5yrs icchadu and the present government is still continuing
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:49 am:       

>>anni seats lo poti cheyalisindi avi kooda vacchevi kaavu...

super logic.
 

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Kadapafan:

Annai last 3 months direct gaa AP Power companies ni choosaa, I cant give info in public DB, but simple gaa cheppalante Bihar kanna ghoram AP paristiti




artham kaledhu bedar..clear ga cheppu...power ante public sambandinchinde kadha....enlighten us....manchi chedu telusukundam..matladadam...tapanipisthe oppukonu naaku problem ledhu.
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nammaru kaabatte 90 + seats vachhai out of 200 contested.




anni seats lo poti cheyalisindi avi kooda vacchevi kaavu...
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:48 am:       

//I DON'T HAVE TO STOPP THAT LOW ANI VELLI MARI GELICHADU YSR.//

99 lo cbn kooda alage gelichadu.

2004 lo aalage annadu, but oodipoyadu. anadam valla emi jaragadhu. anadam valla , leka anakapodam valla manishi peddodu avvadu. paristhithulu anipisthai, anipinchavu. appudu ysr ki padaviledhu anni istha annadu. cbn ki eppudu power ledhu anni istha annadu. anthe theda.
http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:47 am:       


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Naaku Maa voorlo oka elluvundhi naaku nelaki 1000 adde vasthundhi. hyd lo okadiki ellu vundhi adde 10000 , 9 thousand cm isthada.

Godavari zillalo acre pollam 10 lakhs petti konukkuni vyavasam chesthe, kareemnager lo 1 lakh ki vasthundhi acre. so karremnager lo free current isthe , 10 lakhs petti polam konnodiki 9 lakhs esthara.

confuse chesana. endho point matram vundhi ooopogga vethukko.


gaa cheppav brother,
 

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needhi kooda alage vundhi guri depth ki aalochisthe. free current endhi. assalu anything free is not good.
http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm
 

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siggulekunda meeru pani cheyoodu mee account lo dabbulu vestha ani cheppadu anni vodilesina CBN.....BUT DHAIRYANGA....SNGLE KROTTHA PROMISE LEKUNDA.....NENU ANTHAKANTE YEKKUVA ISTHA ANI CHEPPAKUNDA...I AM DOING THE NECESSARY.....I DON'T HAVE TO STOPP THAT LOW ANI VELLI MARI GELICHADU YSR......free ga dochipedatha anna vaalla pans talking with arguments like house in hyd.....house in my village why no rent same ani....look how they want to equate it with the livilood of farmers.....Sen yetuvanti vaado vere seppakkarledhu....LOL...LOL
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:43 am:       

//employees ki 40% salary hike 5days/week job chaala sollu cheppaadu CBN aina janaalu namme sthithi lo leru...inka CBN corruption gurinchi cheppali ante ee db saripodu chaala vundi...//

nammaru kaabatte 90 + seats vachhai out of 200 contested.
http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm
 

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Diviseema:

Naaku Maa voorlo oka elluvundhi naaku nelaki 1000 adde vasthundhi. hyd lo okadiki ellu vundhi adde 10000 , 9 thousand cm isthada.




nee argument yedsi moham kadukkunnattundi...sadivina yevadikanna arthamavuthundi....dantlo matladanu kuda yemi ledhu.......LOL
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:39 am:       

//yekkado karimnagar lo oka village vundi......90% of the people depend on agriculture...alage godavari jillalo oka cvillage vundi...again 90% depend on agriculture....the farmer in godavari dt. can get free flowing canal water into his fields by paying a mere 500 ruppes or so per year as water cess. where as the farmentr in klarimnagar has to dig a bore well that costs about a lakh ruppess, then install a electric motor that costs about 25000 and then pay electricity bill every month....//

Naaku Maa voorlo oka elluvundhi naaku nelaki 1000 adde vasthundhi. hyd lo okadiki ellu vundhi adde 10000 , 9 thousand cm isthada.

Godavari zillalo acre pollam 10 lakhs petti konukkuni vyavasam chesthe, kareemnager lo 1 lakh ki vasthundhi acre. so karremnager lo free current isthe , 10 lakhs petti polam konnodiki 9 lakhs esthara.

confuse chesana. endho point matram vundhi ooopogga vethukko.
http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:39 am:       

YSR icchina padakalani dobbulu edithe...mari monna elections appudu opposition parties enduku avi enduku continue chestham ani cheppayi...inka CBN vishayaniki vasthe..pedavallaki icche padakaala meeda padi edupu enduku
1) KG basin lo gas ni private parties ki katta bettindi CBN..
2) CBN ivaala chebuthaadu YSR padakaalanni CBN govt lo surplus money 7500 crores tho chesaadu ani..mari CBN power lo vunnappudu oka 1000 crores oo 2000 crores oo farmers ki icchi vunte vaalla aathma hathyalu aagevi kada CBN malli power loki vacchevaadu..ippudu enduku pedavaallu farmers ani musali kanneeru kaarusthaadu..
3) inka CBN time lo govt organisations anni almost moothapaddaayi..for eg
APSRTC CBN vacche varaku profits lo vundhi CBN power ayyesariki almost moothapadina paristhithi..il give the reason also..CBN power ki vacchaka MVT (motor vehicle tax) ani vuntadi adi APSRTC ki 11% private players ki 5%...CBN ni RTC losses lo vundi ante private players ki ammukomannaadu meetings lo..inka anni ramoji katta betta mani..
4) inka IMG samstha ki city lo 2crore per acre vunna land 50000 ki icchaadu...konni areas lo 800 rs per acre icchaadu..total 1200 acres of land to IMG few places lo (800rs to 50000 rs ) icchina ganudu CBN. CBN private players ki rich people ki rebates and dabbulu isthe tappu ledu gaani YSR pedavaallaki isthe tappu
inka chaala vunnaayi...
ika arogyasri vishayaaniki vasthe though financially its not but inko option ledu YSR govt ki poor people health gurinchi..now many governments want to implement arogyasri..industrial companies ki free power tax holidays isthunnappudu why not to poor farmers..charge the rich companies only thing governance sarigga vunte enni schemes aina implement cheyyochu...
inka again back to CBN topic election manifesto:
Lokesh research chesaadu ante poor people ki 2000 rs anta..inka choosthe daantlo vanda abaddaalu..govt employees ki 40% salary hike 5days/week job chaala sollu cheppaadu CBN aina janaalu namme sthithi lo leru...inka CBN corruption gurinchi cheppali ante ee db saripodu chaala vundi...CBN entha manchi CEO ante vere local companies annitiki cheap ga land icchina CBN, Infosys 300 acres land adi kooda normal value ki adigithe he rejected it..idi mana CBN credibility..ivaala yellow brothers vacchi chebuthaaru...maa keyboards arigipoyaayi ani..all CBN did was mabhyapettadam and manam inka trance lo vunnaam CBN chaala manchi administrator ani..
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:39 am:       


Onlytruth:

Bihar tho AP ni polisthe vaallu siggupadataaru...




1994 - 2003 lo desam prapancham antha munduki dusukelthuntu..mana daddamma prabuthvam mana paristhithini 1981 kante darunam chesindhi...the great CBN ghanakaryam....even laloo could not repeat....sad thing yentante adhi susu kanisaam siggu padatam ledhu LOL
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:37 am:       

eppudaina second term lone bokkalu kanapadatayi ani eppudo cheppa.. idemundi inka enno articles chustam future lo..
 

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Onlytruth:

manam reverse




revere lo vellindi CBN time lo....state GDP was worse than what it was in 1981...atuvanti siggupade pani laloo gadu kuda cheyyaledhu......Aayina siggulekuna desalu thiruguthu...vellu vuputhu color potolu vesukunna medhavulu yevaru andariki telusu.
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....66% of govt spending in HealthCare is going into corporate hospitals account




adi numbers prakaram kuda 66% is being spent for 80% of the population....adhi ridiculous anadam ridiculous.....LOL
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:33 am:       

yekkado karimnagar lo oka village vundi......90% of the people depend on agriculture...alage godavari jillalo oka cvillage vundi...again 90% depend on agriculture....the farmer in godavari dt. can get free flowing canal water into his fields by paying a mere 500 ruppes or so per year as water cess. where as the farmentr in klarimnagar has to dig a bore well that costs about a lakh ruppess, then install a electric motor that costs about 25000 and then pay electricity bill every month....sare antha chesi pandisthe...the price he gets and the price the godavari farmer gets for his produce is the same.....how is that fare and what should do about it ra gootle ani adagalsiondi......atuvanti rathulu bad luck canal water leni areas lo puttinanduku ani chepthademo mana sen dora.....these lunatics do not have an aota of knowlede about such things...solluku takkuvaledhu.....db medhavulanna seppocchu aa iddaru farmers ki justice chesedhi yetlagoooo....LOL....america lanti capitalist countries lone free money for unemployment, free money for medicare/aid, free money for farmers, free money for states backward states, etc vunnayi...lekunte alaska lanti state would not exist with out FREE money....sollesh sen gadiki aamatram tewlisthe inkemi....aaadedo pedda kallu teripinchinattu ikkada sandadi chesthunnaru ga..kondaru YSR should have taken the heat ani comedy setthunaru...YSR vunte vuthiki aaresevadu....aadi sollu questions ki.
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:30 am:       


Kadapafan:

simple gaa cheppalante Bihar kanna ghoram AP paristiti




Bihar tho AP ni polisthe vaallu siggupadataaru...

last few years under nitishkumar's ruling it is heading in +ve direction...

manam reverse
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:28 am:       


Guriginja:

Itlanti sollesh gaallu this is what you did ani kaneesam numbers tho chepthe...




Central planning comission chairman sollesh gaadaa ?

numbers cheppaadu ga....66% of govt spending in HealthCare is going into corporate hospitals account...which is highly ridiculous

arogyasri initiate ainappudu manchi gane undhi...severe surgeries lanti vatiki corporate treatment annaaru.......kaani later cough,cold lantivi kuda add jesi gabbu lepaaru

state ni naasanam jesina ysr 5 yrs regime

okka scent land kuda government ki migalakunda ammesaadu


power sector ni nasanam jesaadu

public healthcare sector ni nasanam jesaadu
 

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Guriginja:

Sen doesn't have a clue on how free power works and how it worked


Annai last 3 months direct gaa AP Power companies ni choosaa, I cant give info in public DB, but simple gaa cheppalante Bihar kanna ghoram AP paristiti
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:22 am:       

Sen doesn't have a clue on how free power works and how it worked. People like Sainath had shown how it worked. Arogyasri got a pat from everyone irrespective of parties. Ittanti sollu batch CBN verudu surudu ani pogidina batch. BPL numbers are not appropriate, so curb them ani YSR 2nd time gelichina tharuvatha...he himself ordered officials to remove all the fraud cards....eedu kotthaga cheppedendi....ayina he did not give any statistic that looked bad, except questioning the % of amounts spent. Itlanti sollesh gaallu this is what you did ani kaneesam numbers tho chepthe......CBN time lo statitics tho saha how the economy went down the drain ani appudu matladocchu..antha varaku lite....paapam tatha and co jalayagnam meeda oooo vage vaallu....as eary as last assembly sessions lo kuda CBN yedo annadu jalayagnam ni dani gurinchi yemi analedha....tatha and co chesthunna aaropanalanni donga aropanalani prove sesinattena...LOL...LOL
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:13 am:       

ap power sector, public health care systems ni malli stabilise cheyyadaniki decades padutundhi


kevalam elections ye target ga addamaina panulu chesthaa mundhuku poyaadu....

now his own govt paying penalty.....rosayya ke teliyani revenue generation ysr ki emainaa telusaa ? ledhu !...so obvious ga ysr vunnaa power sector lo ilage 3 daya 4 days industries ki continuous ga power leni situation ye undedhi
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:02 am:       

APSEB Ki matram Babu oka range lo chesadu. deenemma CE's, DE's vuchha posukunevaru review meeting ante. nenu konni meeting attend ayya. CBN review meeting ante, daaniki mundu CE's DE's meetting vundedhi. pachhi boothule. nee amma konchem pani cheyyandi , ennallu theegalu stambalu ammukundi sampadincharu, aa dabbu em bavupadatharu mee pillalu. ee type lo thettevaallu superiors. naaku mind block.
http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:01 am:       

scrap ysr schemes :

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/Scrap-YSRs -schemes-Plan-panel/articleshow/5681324.cms


ECONOMIC TIMES ,TIMES OF INDIA,EENADU,AJ,DECCAN ...desam lo vunna papers anni YSR padhakalani planning comission kukka dobbulu pettindhi anE fact ni raasthe ....toilet sakshi gaadu matram cheemu netthuru maanam maaryada siggu eggu ledhu ani veyyinokkasaari prove jesukunnaadu
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:00 am:       

anything free is not good..instead govt should provide more jobs
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 07:55 am:       

ysr batiki undi ee dobbulu anni tinalsindhi....bad

free power debbaki state power sector elaa nakipoindho chusevadu

ysr chesina tappulaki rosayya paying penalty
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 07:53 am:       

http://www.eenadu.net/panelhtml.asp?qrystr=htm/panel1.htm

keyboard arigipoyela cheppaam same points db lo.......now its official....central govt planning commission kuda cheppindhi

ysr vi poramboku padhakaalu ani

highlight toilet paper ....picha dobbulu pedithe pogidaaru ani rasukunnadu

ye matram siggu eggu ledhu
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 07:06 am:       


Diviseema:

mee Zilla peru maripoyindhi. YSRfan ani marchuko nee ID .

same to knf . ekanundi YSRNF


id town ki sambandinchindi, zilla ki kaadu
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 06:59 am:       

http://epaper.sakshi.com/Details.aspx?id=403682&boxid=297840 46

eedi covering super intaki, complete gaa ET lo vachina news ki U turn lo vesaad
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 06:56 am:       

mee Zilla peru maripoyindhi. YSRfan ani marchuko nee ID .

same to knf . ekanundi YSRNF
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 06:37 am:       

Ravino and other congress bhaktulu rashtram best of the best of the best ainattu maatlaadaru, ikkademo planning commission 80% BPL antundi, ante ee best of the best baagupadindi evaru?
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 06:33 am:       

Through this scheme, you are indirectly fattening the corporate hospitals and killing the state health system,� is how Sen summed up YSR�s pet scheme

ee point matram 100 % correct annattu.
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 06:30 am:       


Diviseema:


edhi matram super scheme of ysr ani mana pavala seppamannadu. ysr dedicated and named after pavala . he loves pavala's love on him and the nick name he gave ••••.


scheme meeda dabbulu tinevallanadariki avi super schemese, andulo doubt ledu, rashtra khajana ke bokka
 

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 06:28 am:       

//pavala vaddi scheme//

edhi matram super scheme of ysr ani mana pavala seppamannadu. ysr dedicated and named after pavala . he loves pavala's love on him and the nick name he gave .
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 06:19 am:       

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/indicators/ Stop-populist-schemes-Planning-Commission-tells-Andhra-gover nment/articleshow/5685657.cms

In a major blow to the state government, the Planning Commission has given the thumbs down to practically every scheme launched by late chief minister Y S Rajasekhara Reddy during the last five years and more or less directed his successor K Rosaiah to do away with populist schemes and concentrate on providing quality development.

At a meeting held here on Friday to finalise the state’s annual plan 2010-11, Planning Commission member Abhijit Sen wondered how a state’s 80 per cent of the population was poor and yet it recorded the highest growth in the country. While Sen led the planning panel team, the state was represented by chief secretary S V Prasad and at least 22 principal secretaries and secretaries of various departments.

According to sources, every scheme from free power to farmers, power subsidy to industries, Arogyasri, pensions, loan waivers, pavala vaddi and input subsidies implemented by the YSR regime between 2004-09 came in for criticism from the central panel. “All these schemes may be politically popular, but at what cost? Are you not destroying the system by distributing everything free,” Sen asked the state government officials and directed them to amend the schemes in such a manner that the beneficiaries pay for the services provided rather than enjoy them free.

The chief secretary’s attempts to justify the subsidy schemes reportedly failed to cut any ice with the panel. Debunking the contention of the state that it has achieved high agricultural production despite providing subsidies, Sen said: “You have had good rains and bumper crops in the last four years. The agriculture growth rate is shown as very high. In such a situation, why do farmers need subsidies and why sops like loan waivers, pavala vaddi scheme, free power and input subsidies. Such subsidies become necessary only when there is drought and crop failure. When everything is ok, such a huge unproductive expenditure is uncalled for.”

A senior advisor from the Planning Commission reportedly observed that the free power to farmers was actually being grossly abused besides causing reckless wastage of ground water. Apart from suggesting that the free power be metered and the farmer be made to pay for it, the panel told the state to do away with the power subsidy being extended to industries. “The industrial power tariff in Andhra Pradesh is very low. Therefore, there is no reason to give them any more incentives,” the plan panel said.

Castigating the state on the manner in which money was being spent on the Arogyasri scheme, Sen said: “The state spends 66 per cent of its health care budget or Rs 800 crore every year on Arogyasri. You have brought under it every disease and ailment from common cough to heart attack. And almost all the cases are being treated in corporate hospitals. Through this scheme, you are indirectly fattening the corporate hospitals and killing the state health system,” is how Sen summed up YSR’s pet scheme

In a sort of belated relief for the state, the Planning Commission towards the end of the meeting patted the state for the performance in areas like rural development and social welfare.

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