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Telugu_times
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Post Number: 36400 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 11:15 pm: |
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Tilak:"In Gujarat, Jamiat workers on the ground have told me that in several Assembly segments, Muslims voted for Modi"
Gujarat lo, 4 assembly segments lo, Muslims voters are majority. All 4 were won by BJP with Hindu Candidates. That is only possible with Modi's track record in the last 12 or so years. . Rest Godhra cow essays |
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Geohot
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Post Number: 279 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 24.229.233.87
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 07:01 pm: |
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Tilak:madam .. idi chadivi undadu .. http://www.sunday-guardian.com/analysis/let-truth-be-known-a bout-modi
Nice Article.. This is for those , who are unable to sleep in nights , because of having scarry dreams of Modi as PM.. |
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Geohot
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Post Number: 278 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 24.229.233.87
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 07:00 pm: |
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Let truth be known about Modi India was made to believe that Modi was complacent while riots seared Gujarat. Evidence indicates otherwise. Gujarat CM Narendra Modi. REUTERS he UPA government, on coming to power in 2004, put in place its most accomplished experts to meticulously draw up its corruption road map, which it succeeded in implementing with precision until the scams exploded in public space. Post-mortem reports of the 2G scam, the ISRO Devas deal, the Commonwealth Games fraud, to name a few, clearly establish this. I have no doubt that future historians will place the UPA in the same league as other plunderers of India, like Ghazni and the Pindaris. Another road map uppermost in the Congress agenda was towards the political assassination of Narendra Modi, and banishing him from India's political firmament forever, using the unfortunate post Godhra riots as a handle. Congress think tanks worked overtime to draw up a comprehensive, multifaceted strategy of slander, false accusation, governmental and non-governmental disinformation, Goebellesian lies, aimed at converting falsehood into belief among the general population, opinion leaders and influential intellectuals. The lies were to be simple and crisp; they were to be repeated ad nauseam to embed them firmly as truth in the public mind, the media and internationally. Puppets were to be created and nurtured to keep the fiction of Modi's involvement in the Godhra riots alive in the courts, in the media and in the minds of the people, through any lie or deception. Now that the SIT has completed its investigation, and submitted its report to the Supreme Court, it is time the nation and the world knew about the travesty of slander and lies that has been disseminated against Modi by the Congress through hired and unethical civil society organisations, such as Citizens for Justice and Peace headed by Teesta Setalvad, disgruntled officers like Sanjiv Bhatt, who made futile attempts to start an aggressive campaign against Modi 10 long years after the riots, and certain sections of the media. Today, the lid over the entire political conspiracy has blown, and the false testimony and machinations of Teesta Setalvad and Sanjiv Bhatt have been exposed. Let me inform the people of a few instances of deliberate disinformation against Modi, which gained huge currency during the last 10 years, backed by the malicious hate campaign, which the SIT investigation has proved to be completely false. 1. The country was made to believe that Modi sat complacent and inert while the riots were searing Gujarat. The evidence indicates otherwise. Immediately after the Godhra train burning, on the evening of 27 February 2002, the Gujarat Chief Minister summoned an emergency meeting of top ranking officials of the government, took steps to deploy the Rapid Action Force (RAF), State Reserve Police, local police at sensitive points. Since the army at Ahmedabad Cantonment had been called at the border in view of the attack on Parliament earlier, the Chief Minister requested the then Defence Minister telephonically on 28 February 2002 to immediately deploy army battalions to tackle the situation, which were deployed immediately. 2. The Congress, through its mouthpieces Teesta Setalvad and Sanjiv Bhatt maliciously fabricated a story, vigorously picked up by certain so called intellectuals and of course the anti national elements of our society, that Narendra Modi and the police administration conspired to carry out a pogrom by Hindus against Muslims and that the Gujarat riots were state sponsored. Undisputed statistics presented to the SIT show that in the first six days of the riots, 61 Hindus and 40 Muslims were killed in police firing. The death of any person in police firing is tragic. But does a police firing death toll with 60% casualties being Hindu indicate a pogrom by the state government against Muslims? The complaint of Zakia Jafri (filed at the behest of Teesta Setalvad) alleges that the riots that followed the Godhra train carnage were a conspiracy and a pogrom by the ruling party in Gujarat and its Chief Minister in which almost the entire administration was a co-conspirator. More particularly, they perpetrated a smear campaign that the Chief Minister had instructed the police officials not to interfere with or use force against the Hindus taking revenge against the Muslims. This allegation has not been supported by any evidence, except for the false testimony of Sanjiv Bhatt, which not only appeared suddenly after 10 years, but has also been demolished by positive evidence that he is lying. { Teesta Setalvad, under tutelage of the Congress government, propagated to the world at large that the Godhra train carnage was accidental and the riots were a conspiracy supported by the Gujarat government. 3. Another canard led by Teesta Setalvad and other vested interest groups globally was that the Gujarat government and its police did not investigate rape cases. Evidence before the SIT establishes that this was pure fiction, that all rape complaints were being investigated and some convictions had already taken place. It also proved that Setalvad fabricated a false rape case in Naroda, which she alleged was not investigated, with the alleged victim herself denying it and also the eyewitness. Another gruesome fabrication spread by Setalvad about the tearing of a pregnant woman's stomach and lifting the foetus on the tip of the sword has been disproved by the SIT as false. On post mortem the foetus was found intact within the unfortunate dead lady who succumbed to burns during the riots, and was identified by her relatives. This is corroborated by the statement of the doctor who performed the post mortem. 4. While investigating the Gulbarg case, the SIT came across nearly 20 witnesses who came with their readymade typed statements and refused to videotape their statements, to which the SIT objected. When they did give their statements, they did not match the readymade statements, and also admitted to the SIT that the typed statements were given to them by Teesta Setalvad. 5. The Gujarat police had found on investigation that the Godhra train carnage was a conspiracy and what followed was a violent reaction to it. Teesta Setalvad, under tutelage of the Congress government, propagated to the world at large that the Godhra train carnage was accidental and the riots were a conspiracy supported by the Gujarat government. The Justice Banerjee Committee report claiming the Godhra train burning to be an accident was held illegal by the High Court of Gujarat. The SIT also rejected the accident theory, and found on reinvestigation that the Godhra carnage was indeed a conspiracy to burn and bake the unwary passengers and the riots were a reaction. This fact is now judicially established in the trial of Godhra incident by the sessions judge appointed by the then Chief Justice of Gujarat High Court as directed by the Supreme Court. The very fact that one of the principal accused in the Godhra carnage is now a fugitive in Pakistan, with an Interpol Red Corner Notice, clearly reveals how the conspiracy originated. So, another evil myth to poison the minds of the people of our country against Modi has been disproved by a series of judicial findings. 6. It is now widely known that the entire anthology of false and gruesome stories brought to the notice of the Supreme Court by mainly Citizens of Justice and Peace, the NGO headed by Teesta Setalvad, on the basis of which the Supreme Court appointed the SIT itself, were found by the SIT to be false. Modi bashing, Modi defamation became a lucrative industry and a blood sport during the last 10 years. Appropriate recruitments were done, the Goebbelsian strategy that if you repeat a lie a thousand times it will become a truth was used to the hilt. The Congress and Teesta Setalvad must have basked in their success until the SIT findings revealed not only the real truth to the world, but also exposed the lies of Setalvad and Sanjiv Bhatt, in tutoring witnesses, pressurizing them to give false affidavits, and providing false information to the SIT and the Supreme Court. Though still trying their best to attack the SIT, there is little they can do, as all statements of all witnesses are recorded under videography. 7. The enemies of India desperately tried to turn the unfortunate Gujarat riots into a global issue and grievously tarnish Gujarat and Modi through their strategy of repeating lies. But the same Europeans who had succumbed to Teesta Setalvad's pogrom and state sponsored riot theory in 2002, appear to have realised their mistake, and are now graciously making amends, not to mention the overtures made to Modi by the UK and the US. Well, the lengthy SIT process that involved thousands of witnesses and reams of evidence is over, and Modi has emerged unscathed. It is now time that the conspiracy against Modi and Gujarat should forcefully be informed to the general public, the "secular" intellectuals, the opinion makers and the media. |
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Rajusk
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Post Number: 26344 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.199.23.185
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 05:59 pm: |
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Tilak: Muslims in Gujarat are economically better off than in several states which have so-called secular governments in power
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Tilak
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Post Number: 12098 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.108.8
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 04:21 pm: |
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Iamim:Modi, under whose watch Gujarat witnessed the massacre of nearly 1,500 Muslims in 2002.
madam .. idi chadivi undadu .. http://www.sunday-guardian.com/analysis/let-truth-be-known-a bout-modi "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
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Tilak
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Post Number: 12090 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.108.8
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 02:44 pm: |
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"In Gujarat, Jamiat workers on the ground have told me that in several Assembly segments, Muslims voted for Modi. There is a perceptible change of heart and circumstances are different now. I agree the times are changing. Muslims in Gujarat are economically better off than in several states which have so-called secular governments in power," he told Rahul Kanwal in an exclusive interview on Seedhi Baat. Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/rahul-kanwal-jamiat-leade r-maulana-madani-narendra-modi-seedhi-baat/1/250605.html "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
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Tilak
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Post Number: 12085 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.108.8
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 02:29 pm: |
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Rajusk:endi roju savagodthunnar. ...PAN India. ... Pant India ani. .
Nehru, Indira, Rajiv, PVNR, ABVP - ila oka caste ollake pants undavata India lo .. alage Rahul ki kuda pant oodagotteddam ani antannaru Iamim garu .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
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Rajusk
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Post Number: 26343 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.54.87.216
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 02:11 pm: |
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Tilak:
endi roju savagodthunnar. ...PAN India. ... Pant India ani. . |
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Tilak
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Post Number: 12078 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.108.8
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 01:16 pm: |
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Iamim:
then why is Rajiv Gandhi, who has the blood of 100,000 sikhs on his hand, given Bharat Ratna? "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
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Iamim
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Post Number: 4652 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 117.221.55.85
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 12:55 pm: |
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Tilak:absolutely .. Sikhs have always sacrificed themselves for protecting Hindu dharma and Hindustan .. not even Hindus! even today, sikhs comprise around 30% of the entire Indian army.
Maj. General M. Khan of Pakistan wrote in his book 'Crisis of Leadership' about the bravery of the Sikh soldiers during the Indo-Pak war. Here are some excerpts from the book: "....the main reason of our defeat was Sikhs fighting facing us. We were helpless to do anything in front of them. Sikhs are very brave and they have a great craving for martyrdom. They fight so fiercely that they are capable of defeating an army many times bigger than theirs." "....Alas, a handful of Sikhs converted our great victory into a big defeat and shattered our confidence and courage. ." "....The same thing happened with us in Dhaka(Bangladesh). In the battle of Jaissur, the Singhs opposed the Pakistani army so fiercely that our backbone and our foothold was lost. This became the main and important reason of our defeat and the Sikhs' fancy for martyrdom and mockery with death for the sake of safety and honour of the country, became the sole cause of their victory." May God rest the souls of all the fallen soldiers, in peace. |
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Geohot
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Post Number: 273 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 24.229.233.87
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 11:59 am: |
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Iamim:Highlight text and click arrow icon
Thanks |
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Tilak
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Post Number: 12072 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.108.8
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 11:55 am: |
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Geohot:Sickularist do not answer about 1984 Sikh massacre in the roads of NewDelhi ..only thing they say always about 2002..I hate this chetakani sicularists..
chetakaani sickularists aithe parledu .. untruthful kooda .. thats pretty cheap .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
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Tilak
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Post Number: 12071 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.108.8
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 11:54 am: |
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Iamim:Muslims not equal to Sikhs..
absolutely .. Sikhs have always sacrificed themselves for protecting Hindu dharma and Hindustan .. not even Hindus! even today, sikhs comprise around 30% of the entire Indian army. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
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Iamim
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Post Number: 4647 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 117.221.55.85
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 11:51 am: |
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Geohot:How to quote the person's quote in your post ? Syntax pls..
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Geohot
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Post Number: 272 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 24.229.233.87
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 11:49 am: |
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How to quote the person's quote in your post ? Syntax pls.. |
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Iamim
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Post Number: 4645 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 117.221.55.85
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 11:47 am: |
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Geohot:Sickularist do not answer about 1984 Sikh massacre in the roads of NewDelhi ..only thing they say always about 2002..I hate this chetakani sicularists..
All in the game of politics.. Muslims not equal to Sikhs.. |
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Tilak
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Iamim:The author is an independent political and foreign affairs commentator
and an as$ "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
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Post Number: 4644 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 117.221.55.85
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Manoj:you made your point clear that you want a person with PAN India vision and sickular ideology as PM. Y r u opening so many threads to show your hatredness towards Modi?
Just spreading some GK brother anthe.. |
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Geohot
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Post Number: 269 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 24.229.233.87
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Tilak.. Sickularist do not answer about 1984 Sikh massacre in the roads of NewDelhi ..only thing they say always about 2002..I hate this chetakani sicularists.. |
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Manoj
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Iamim:
you made your point clear that you want a person with PAN India vision and sickular ideology as PM. Y r u opening so many threads to show your hatredness towards Modi? |
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Tilak
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Post Number: 12069 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.108.8
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 11:36 am: |
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Iamim:The impression gained from conversations with some retired and a few serving officials in the ministry of external affairs (MEA) is that Europe and the UK have not earned any diplomatic brownie points for making a beeline to Modi, under whose watch Gujarat witnessed the massacre of nearly 1,500 Muslims in 2002.
Turns out to be true, only if you can explain how Rajiv Gandhi has been made Prime Minister and given Bharat Ratna, under whose watch India witnessed the genocide of nearly 100,000 sikhs in 1984. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
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Iamim:
ade antunna antha kastapadi chadavalsina avasaram ledu allaki values ante telsinde kada ? Modi ki inka ekkuva values unnayi ani nammutha  |
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Iamim
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Post Number: 4643 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 117.221.55.85
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Raman:alla bonda le annai
ee article cheppedi ade brother.. |
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Iamim:more about these states betraying their own constitutional values
alla bonda le annai |
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DNA Analysis: West at its duplicitous worst in wooing Narendra Modi Shastri Ramachandaran | Agency: DNA | Monday, February 18, 2013 The ardent overtures to Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi by Europe, the UK and the US tell us more about these states betraying their own constitutional values than about Modi’s appeal abroad. Even the BJP has prudently desisted from crowing about the party’s “growing international appeal” as some admirers of Modi are prone to doing in private. The impression gained from conversations with some retired and a few serving officials in the ministry of external affairs (MEA) is that Europe and the UK have not earned any diplomatic brownie points for making a beeline to Modi, under whose watch Gujarat witnessed the massacre of nearly 1,500 Muslims in 2002. Not long before the carnage, these very western governments were fuming over churches being torched and attacked and Christians being targeted in Modi’s Gujarat. The US, in contrast, has played its cards more shrewdly. Long before the much-publicised British high commissioner’s visit, in October 2012, re-opened the communication channel to Modi, the Danish ambassador was already talking to him. As one diplomatic observer pointed out, “Denmark probably did it out of pique or spite – because the Government of India had consigned the Danish embassy to the diplomatic doghouse”. The Danish government – because the ambassador was unlikely to act on his own in this matter – wanted to show the UPA government its displeasure at being isolated. The reasons for Denmark being isolated include its executive’s refusal to appeal a judicial order against the extradition of Kim Davey, who is wanted in the Purulia arms drop case. The cartoons of the Prophet (which Indians and New Delhi found objectionable) and Danish state broadcasters telecasting films shot in violation of visa conditions were just two of the many issues that had soured relations. Worse than the transgressions was the Danish government’s defence of these offending acts. So, it came as a surprise when the Danish government — which cited India’s atrocious human rights record and abominable prison system to justify its refusal to extradite the terrorist Kim Davey — went out of the way to court Modi. That Modi was chief minister during the massacre of 1,500 Muslims, and for this reason barred from getting a visa or travelling to Europe, the UK and the US, seemed to hardly matter as an issue of diplomatic concern. It is possible that the Danes were used to test the waters before biggies, such as the UK and Germany, took the plunge. Not long after the UK foreign office asked its high commissioner in India to build bridges to Modi, envoys from EU countries queued up to meet the man who is projected by influential sections as a potential prime minister. The West, which never misses an opportunity to berate or slam India for human rights violations and is forever preaching about democracy, religious freedom, rule of law and respect for judiciary, seems to have admitted that these are at best nonsense; and, at worst, instrumental in negotiating better terms of trade. The EU ambassadors rationalised their cosying up to Modi by arguing that he had not been “judicially arraigned yet” for the massacres in Gujarat; and that making up with Modi was proof of their respect to India’s democratic institutions, electoral system and judiciary. The countries which barred his entry are now falling over each other to invite him to Europe; and, he is to be feted by not only European business but also the European Parliament. As for the US, its ingenuity will be severely tested when it comes to inviting Modi for a visit because its law bars foreign government officials who have “committed particularly severe violations of religious freedom”. However, this would be a minor hurdle when Washington chooses to roll out the red carpet for Modi. What emerges from these developments is that the West, for all its protestations about human rights and democracy, couldn’t care less about either M – Modi or the Minorities. The only M that spurs the West is Money. It is the cynical pursuit of financial profit – investment opportunities and defence contracts — that guides western governments when it comes to the “lesser people” and “lesser nations”. One of the most jarring developments in the aftermath of the 2002 riots was that, contrary to general expectation, a delegation led by the US Commerce Secretary did not put off its visit to Gujarat. It was business as usual for Washington. Whether Modi becomes prime minister or not, there is no doubt that the West has earned his contempt, rightfully. The author is an independent political and foreign affairs commentator |
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