Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 12:05 pm:

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Tilak:

tried finding it now .. but could not ..

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Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 11:57 am:

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Tilak:

when there is not one such way .. whats the point in suggesting that? talking practicality? really?

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Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 11:38 am:

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Mental_sachinodu:

shouldnt we leave it to the people who went through it.

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Mental_sachinodu:

it can never be "real".

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Mental_sachinodu:

not that there such a way.

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Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 11:33 am:

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Tilak:

I am only talking about the "real" effects of his mind

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Tilak:

I am not such an apologist, for heaven's sake and mine!

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Tilak:

peaceful non-cooperation to resist a rape? I am sure you, more than anyone else here, understand the brutality of a rape and am sure can assume the atmosphere around the times of independence when people of a community were on the streets, in gangs, just to rape women, kill and loot people all around??? and you want this to be resisted by peaceful non-cooperation ..

I am sorry, I cant even discuss anything more than this.

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Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 10:40 am:

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Tilak:

Anduke ga cheptunna, consider it tamarind rice till then ani ..

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Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 10:40 am:

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Bushu:

this is there. I actually think it may be his learning. during moplah, he exhorted Hindus to fight back and chided muslims. during noakhali, he asked Hindus to run for their life. He was very practical, not just a blind idealist.

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Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 10:35 am:

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Bushu:

thammi, when you make such claims, please come with a source. This is serious shit.

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Bushu:

He was very practical, not just a blind idealist.

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Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 10:32 am:

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Tilak:

Gandhi once asked women to not resist rape. how do you justify that?

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Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 10:28 am:

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Tilak:

Gandhi once asked women to not resist rape. how do you justify that?

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Tilak:

story of inconsistency of principles

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Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 05:13 am:

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Mental_sachinodu:

what's so great about human history if we start reading based on perceived injustice of a person, tribe or country,

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Mental_sachinodu:

Talking about the idea that is Gandhi, while you are talking about the perceived effects of his path.

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Mental_sachinodu:

Gandhi was about peaceful non-cooperation, I would think he would suggested such a resistance in case of rape.

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Farmer:

hot hot tamarind rice?....credible link fleez, if pazibul...

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Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 03:33 am:

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Tilak:

Gandhi once asked women to not resist rape. how do you justify that?

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Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 03:16 am:

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Tilak:

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Diviseema:

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Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 12:51 am:

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Mental_sachinodu:

lets assume that there is a rapist, in retaliation, do we justify another rape - either to the same person or any other person connected to the original rapist. an equal retribution!! we can work through this by changing the intensity of aggression and its reaction.

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Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 12:38 am:

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Mental_sachinodu:

so are we to believe now that Gandhi wanted Hindu's die and may be he was a closet muslim. may be he is.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 07:45 pm:

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Tilak:

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 07:42 pm:

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Ruj:

oka tiger ochi right chempa medha panja estundhi..nuvvu kiki ani navvuthu left chepma choopisthe kasak ani korikesi potundhi..peedha potundhi appudu..

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 03:45 pm:

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Ruj:

whether ur dealing with christians, mulsims, hindus,aliens,animals or someother group..u act according to situation..u might have certain principles yes..but that doesnt mean u would apply that principle no matter what..

oka tiger ochi right chempa medha panja estundhi..nuvvu kiki ani navvuthu left chepma choopisthe kasak ani korikesi potundhi..peedha potundhi appudu..


whether ur gandhi or someother alien u gotta run or fight back if possilbe when tiger is behind u..not embrace and smile showing chempas and buggas..ala sethe gandhi, gandhi avvadu ante evarem seppaler..


anyways coming back to the topic..what gandhi could have done better..he could have used his influence to talk to islamic leaders, british or gov officials..deployement of police force..call spade a spade..inspite of all this the riots would not have stopped..nobody is holding gandhi accoutable for this...he tries something..and might not succeed/failed...he is no god..it happens to everyone..

but u dont go back half way through ur trip like a puxxssy and say embrace..kikiki..without even understanding the people ur dealing with are barbarists of highest kind..

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 01:38 pm:

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Gandhi focused his attention on Indians while in South Africa and opposed the idea that Indians should be treated at the same level as native Africans while in South Africa.[32][33][34] After several treatments he received from Whites in South Africa, Gandhi began to change his thinking and apparently increased his interest in politics.[35] White rule enforced strict segregation among all races and generated conflict between these communities. Bhana and Vahed argue that Gandhi, at first, shared racial notions prevalent of the times and that his experiences in jail sensitized him to the plight of blacks.
During the Boer War Gandhi volunteered in 1900 to form a group of ambulance drivers. He wanted to disprove the British idea that Hindus were not fit for "manly" activities involving danger and exertion. Gandhi raised eleven hundred Indian volunteers. They were trained and medically certified to serve on the front lines. At Spion Kop Gandhi and his bearers had to carry wounded soldiers for miles to a field hospital because the terrain was too rough for the ambulances. Gandhi was pleased when someone said that European ambulance corpsmen could not make the trip under the heat without food or water. General Redvers Buller mentioned the courage of the Indians in his dispatch. Gandhi and thirty seven other Indians received the War Medal.[36]
In 1906, the British declared war against the Zulu Kingdom in Natal, Gandhi encouraged the British to recruit Indians.[37] He argued that Indians should support the war efforts in order to legitimise their claims to full citizenship.[37] The British accepted Gandhi's offer to let a detachment of 20 Indians volunteer as a stretcher-bearer corps to treat wounded British soldiers. This corps was commanded by Gandhi and operated for less than two months.[38] The experience taught him it was hopeless to directly challenge the overwhelming military power of the British army—he decided it could only be resisted in non-violent fashion by the pure of heart.[39]
After the black majority came to power in South Africa, Gandhi was proclaimed a national hero with numerous monuments.[40]

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In April 1918, during the latter part of World War I, the Viceroy invited Gandhi to a War Conference in Delhi.[43] Perhaps to show his support for the Empire and help his case for India's independence,[44] Gandhi agreed to actively recruit Indians for the war effort.[45] In contrast to the Zulu War of 1906 and the outbreak of World War I in 1914, when he recruited volunteers for the Ambulance Corps, this time Gandhi attempted to recruit combatants. In a June 1918 leaflet entitled "Appeal for Enlistment", Gandhi wrote "To bring about such a state of things we should have the ability to defend ourselves, that is, the ability to bear arms and to use them...If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army."[46] He did, however, stipulate in a letter to the Viceroy's private secretary that he "personally will not kill or injure anybody, friend or foe."[47]
Gandhi's war recruitment campaign brought into question his consistency on nonviolence as his friend Charlie Andrews confirms, "Personally I have never been able to reconcile this with his own conduct in other respects, and it is one of the points where I have found myself in painful disagreement."[48] Gandhi's private secretary also had acknowledged that "The question of the consistency between his creed of 'Ahimsa' (non-violence) and his recruiting campaign was raised not only then but has been discussed ever since."[45]

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 01:04 pm:

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Mental_sachinodu:

enemy christian ayithe manam oka principle vadaali, muslim ayithe inko principal vadali, dhaaniki Gandhi endhuku, clearly we are not talking about what Gandhi is, but we are talking about how we thing Gandhi should be. well, if that is how we read history, whats the use of reading.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:36 pm:

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Mental_sachinodu:

for the sake of history or for that matter understanding what Gandhi "was".

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:33 pm:

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Bushu:

and what exactly did he stand for?

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:30 pm:

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Mental_sachinodu:

but What did Rama stand for anedhi marachipothaaru.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:29 pm:

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Mental_sachinodu:

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Indiarocks:

What Gandhi should have done in this case?

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:27 pm:

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Kingaa_bongaa:

NO. this is about what Gandhi WAS. and he was biased, and he was no good to be father of nation if he choose to be father of only one child and that was gandhi/nehru family and muzs families.

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Bushu:

no but we are. to some he is a saint. to others, like me for example, he was a great strategist.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:23 pm:

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Bushu:

no but we are. to some he is a saint. to others, like me for example, he was a great strategist.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:21 pm:

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Mental_sachinodu:

clearly we are not talking about what Gandhi is

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:19 pm:

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Ruj:

like a king losing a particular battle..gandhi lost this particular battle period...

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:18 pm:

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Mental_sachinodu:

clearly we are not talking about what Gandhi is, but we are talking about how we thing Gandhi should be

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:12 pm:

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Mental_sachinodu:

enemy christian ayithe manam oka principle vadaali, muslim ayithe inko principal vadali, dhaaniki Gandhi endhuku, clearly we are not talking about what Gandhi is, but we are talking about how we thing Gandhi should be. well, if that is how we read history, whats the use of reading.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 11:14 am:

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Onlytruth:

Gandhiji meedha hatred..tulaks hindus 100 yella kritam em chesaaru. Daaniki manam ippudu v.lu baadhukovadam maanesi jana jeevana sravanthi lo kaluvu..

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 10:40 am:

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Bring light to the poor; and bring more light to the rich, for they require it more than the poor. Bring light to the ignorant, and more light to the educated, for the vanities of the education of our time are tremendous.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 10:23 am:

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Chillarodu:

ippudu article thechhi.. kotteddaam or narikeddaam ani evaranna annara??
he put it just for a discussion on the subject..
RSS . Modi endhuku madyalo..
interest vunte.. subject meedha discus cheyyochugaa..
opika vunte.. aayana ichina matter chadhiva nee opinion just on the subject cheppu..
time waste bokka anukunte.. mana other important threads lo posts vesukovadame..

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 10:09 am:

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Onlytruth:

artham ayyindhi aayana goppatanam..

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 10:07 am:

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Siloan:

OTaa...entaaa aavesam...

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 10:02 am:

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Chillarodu:

RSS . Modi endhuku madyalo..

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 09:56 am:

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Onlytruth:

Partition time lo evadiki balam unna chotla vadu avatali matam vallani champesaaru...hundre ds of incidents across india bangla pak....

Ippudu aa charitra tavvi teesi hindu Muslim vidweshaaluu...anti gandhi edupu edavaalaa ?

Charitrakaarulu, naati samajam, naati world leaders, eeenati world leaders errip lu mari...gandhi gurinchi teliyaka goppodu anaaru



Mana pani m lenI baavi batch emo medhavulu...

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 09:37 am:

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Onlytruth:

certain % of sickening souls within rss are asa dangerous as muzlim tellalists...to india

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 09:28 am:

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Onlytruth:

Prati religious massacre ki previous jarigina daniki retaliation ane cheppukuntaaru...ala cheppukokapote avi jaragavu asalu......egg mundha chicken mundaa never can be concluded...ee lopu mana rss hatred on gandhiki push jeyyadam tappa inkoti kaahdu

gnadhiji tappudu decisions teesukoni unte world leaders daka kaadhu mundhu desa prajale voosevaru ....manamemaina medhavulama enti bochu ? okka invention cheyyaleni kojjaa generation manadhi...enno wonders chesina aanaati samajam erripookulayyi Gandhi ni mahanetha ga accept cheyyaledhu

really worth thone jarigindhi


inni decades ainaaka kuda american pillala text books nunchi american president obama varaku prati okkaru keeertinche aa goppa vyakthi charitra meedha ummesthe padedhi mana mukhaane

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 09:12 am:

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Onlytruth:

Prati religious massacre ki previous jarigina daniki retaliation ane cheppukuntaaru...ala cheppukokapote avi jaragavu asalu......egg mundha chicken mundaa never can be concluded...ee lopu mana rss hatred on gandhiki push jeyyadam tappa inkoti kaahdu

gnadhiji tappudu decisions teesukoni unte world leaders daka kaadhu mundhu desa prajale voosevaru ....manamemaina medhavulama enti bochu ? okka invention cheyyaleni kojjaa generation manadhi...enno wonders chesina aanaati samajam erripookulayyi Gandhi ni mahanetha ga accept cheyyaledhu

really worth thone jarigindhi


inni decades ainaaka kuda american pillala text books nunchi american president obama varaku prati okkaru keeertinche aa goppa vyakthi charitra meedha ummesthe padedhi mana mukhaane

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 08:42 am:

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Onlytruth:

RSS vallu 100 yella kritam charitra teeesi gandhi meeda edavadaniki no relation

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 08:28 am:

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Telugu_times:

ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 07:18 am:

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Bushu:

so there are two types of debators. those who wish to learn by asking questions and providing opinions. and those who come with an agenda and slander anyone who does not subscribe to theirs. most of us choose one of these topically but some choose only one method almost always. so you choose who to engage with.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 07:07 am:

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Tilak:

ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 01:55 am:

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Onlytruth:

Progressive thinking unna vaallu charitra lo emainaa marchipovalsina bad incidents unte marchipoyi get along with life....

ee RSS , hindu xtremists daridram entooo 100 la yella kritam aipoinavi ippudu kelukkoni blogs petti kukkedupu........ mee mutthhatha gaari taatha maa bamma gaari ammamma ki kannu kottaadanta ani ippudu katthi pattikelli em peekutaru ? na bochu

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 01:49 am:

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Onlytruth:

daniki response ga bihar lo champabadda muslimz number ekkuva...chaala ekkuva

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Onlytruth:

intha deep charitra mana lanti quarter knowledge batch araganta google chesi, extremist blogs lo pdf lu chusi disco cheyyalemu

atleast one year full libraries meedha , net lo books meedha padi research chesthe then we can see tip of the iceberg

anthe gani voorake gandhi meedha kukkedupu edavaniki peddha charitrakarulla matladakandi

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Onlytruth:

inni decades ainaaka kuda american pillala text books nunchi american president obama varaku prati okkaru keeertinche aa goppa vyakthi charitra meedha ummesthe padedhi mana mukhaane

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Shikari:

lekapothe endhehe eppudu edhava gola..roju edho oka rakam ga tulaks ni kelakali..aa roju ki emi topic dorakkapothe history ni keliki edho okati pattukochi racha.Congress vadiki pandaga

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:57 am:

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Life_sucks:

inthaki conclusion enti ?

chaala miss ayya.

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Onlytruth:

jana jeevana sravanthi lo kalavandi ra baaboo

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:40 am:

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Shikari:

lekapothe endhehe eppudu edhava gola..roju edho oka rakam ga tulaks ni kelakali..aa roju ki emi topic dorakkapothe history ni keliki edho okati pattukochi racha.Congress vadiki pandaga

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:37 am:

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Farmer:

antha aavesa paddav enti

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:34 am:

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Onlytruth:

Noakhali lo chanipoina hinduvula kante, daniki response ga bihar lo champabadda muslimz number ekkuva...chaala ekkuva

adhi kanapadadhu hindu extremists ki

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Although there were no major incidents in Noakhali during the Kolkata riots, the district remained tense. On 29 August, the day of Id-ul-Fitr, a rumour spread that Sikhs, hired by Hindus were killing the Muslims en masse. Muslim mobs from the suburban mosques poured into the Noakhali town and resorted to loot and arson. Incidents of waylaying and murder of Hindus took place in the roads and waterways.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:33 am:

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Shikari:

desaniki sagam daridram congress aithe inko sagam ee nicker moorkhulu...evadi bathuku vadini bathakanivvaru...indira gandhi,rajeev gandhi poyaka kuda congress survive ayi desanni rule chesthundante karanam veelle chese penta panule.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:25 am:

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Bushu:

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:24 am:

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Onlytruth:

context ni batti kadhaa... idhee anthE

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:21 am:

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Bushu:

british naayallu kummodulthuntey attaney nilabadi bharinchandi kaani no fighting or running anna pedhayana, ikkda paari pondroiiiiii annadantey, endhannatlu?

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:20 am:

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Indiarocks:

Taruvatha adi "spontaneous" retaliation ani justify cheseyali.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:19 am:

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Onlytruth:

paaripondi ani pilupu ivvakunda....goddali tiyyara smara simha sharmaaa antaada endhi ?

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:19 am:

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Tilak:

neeku teliyakapothe evariki teliyanattu kaadu ga

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:19 am:

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Onlytruth:

85% muslimz lawless land lo chelaregi potunte police force kuda leni aa rojullo gandhiki aa 10% hindus ki paaripondi ani pilupu ivvakunda....goddali tiyyara smara simha sharmaaa antaada endhi ?

paavu ganta lo sampesevaru tulaks migilina manollani

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:19 am:

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Onlytruth:

intaki india lo mari 7,000 mandhi hinduvulani champina incident kuda evariki teliyakapovadam emitiii ?

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:18 am:

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Onlytruth:

India Pakistan post partitiion chanipoina few lakhs of people ye religion vaallu tilak ?

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:16 am:

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Tilak:

from Wiki again

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:15 am:

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Onlytruth:

RSS vaallu desh-premis aa meeku evaru ichaaru aa title..bhale pettesukunnare

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Role during the 1962 Sino-Indian War
The RSS which had been keeping low profile after the lifting of the ban, earned recognition based on its volunteer work during the Sino-Indian War in 1962.[46] RSS was invited by Prime Minister Nehru to take part in the Republic Day parade of 1963.[47] It along with several other civilian organizations took part in the parade.[48] This event helped the RSS increase its popularity and its patriotic image.[49][50][51]
Later in 1965 and 1971 Indo-Pak wars too, the RSS volunteers offered their services to maintain law and order of the country and were apparently the first to donate blood.[52]

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:14 am:

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Bushu:

Gandhi suggested Hindus not face the aggressor non-violently but simply run away.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:14 am:

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Onlytruth:

paritala vs congress goondalu lo memu jai paritala

anthe gani paritala vs mahaneeylu compare jeyyamu

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:12 am:

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Tilak:

calling the desh-premis .. "lkodukulu" and stuff like that ..

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:12 am:

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On 12 October, the residence of Chittaranjan Dutta Raychaudhuri at Shayestaganj under Raipur police station was attacked by a Muslim mob. He took all his family members to the terrace and began to defend the attackers with his rifle. Heavily outnumbered and running out of ammunition he used pump to fire water cannon on the attackers. In the end, he shot his aged mother and children and finally himself.[22]

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:11 am:

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Tilak:

calling the desh-premis

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:10 am:

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Tilak:

The destroyed house of Rajendralal Roychowdhury.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:10 am:

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Onlytruth:

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:09 am:

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Pulibongaram:

enti paritala ravi fans vachi gandhi gurinchi disking aa

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:08 am:

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Pulibongaram:

enti paritala ravi fans vachi gandhi gurinchi disking aa

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:07 am:

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Bushu:

ilaa Gandhi ekkada annado chooinchavaa?

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:03 am:

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On 10 October, the day of Kojagari Lakshmi Puja, when the Bengali Hindus were busy in puja activities, the Muslim League leadership started a false rumour that the Sikhs had attacked Diara Sharif.[17] As the rumour spread Muslims from the surrounding areas began to assemble at the Diara Sharif. Ghulam Sarwar instructed the Muslim masses to march towards the Sahapur market. Another Muslim League leader Kasem too arrived at the Sahapur market with his private army, then known as Kasemer Fauz.[N 3] The shrine of Kali was desecrated and the Hindu shops were looted. The Muslim mob began to shout anti-Hindu slogans.


Surabala Majumdar, the wife of Dr. Pratap Chandra Majumdar, who was killed in the genocide.
After that Kasem's army marched to Narayanpur to the zamindari office of Surendranath Basu. Kasem's army was joined their by another Muslim mob from Kalyannagar. Some of the Muslim tenants too joined the mob and attacked the zamindari office. After a brief resistance Surendranath Basu was critically wounded by a sharp weapon. The Muslim mob tied his hands and legs burned him alive.[17] On hearing that Surendranath Basu had been attacked, Rajkumar Pal, a doctor from the nearby village of Panchgharia set out to rescue him. But he was stabbed by a miscreant on the way.[18]


The destroyed house of Rajendralal Roychowdhury.
On 11 October, the private army of Gholam Sarwar, known as the Miyar Fauz attacked the residence of Rajendralal Roychowdhury, the president of the Noakhali Bar Association and the Noakhali District Hindu Mahasabha. At that time Swami Tryambakananda of Bharat Sevashram Sangha was staying at their house as guest. Rajendralal defended the mob from his terrace with his rifle for the entire day. At the nightfall, when the mob retreated Rajendralal sent the Swami and his family members to safety. The next day the mob attacked again. The set fire to the house and killed 22 family members including Rajendralal's elder brother Chintacharan and younger brother Satish and himself.[19] The severed head of Rajendralal Roychowdhury was presented to Golam Sarwar on a platter and his two daughters were gifted to two of his trusted generals.[20] According to Sucheta Kriplani, Rajendralal Roychowdhury had followed the footsteps of Shivaji and Guru Gobind Singh and became a martyr, defending his faith and family honour.[21] Acharya Kripalani, a staunch believer in non-violence, held that the resistance offered by Rajendralal Roychowdhury and his family, was the nearest approach to non-violence.[21] After three months Mohandas Gandhi while touring Noakhali visited their gutted house. On 11 January 1947, the corpses of the Roychowdhurys were exhumed from a swamp in Azimpur and brought before Mohandas Gandhi's prayer assembly at Lamchar High School. After the prayers the corpses were cremated according to Hindu rites.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:02 am:

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Onlytruth:

http://www.hrw.org/news/2002/04/29/india-gujarat-officials-t ook-part-anti-muslim-violence

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