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Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5153 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.85 Rating: N/A |
Its a game...that's all. no other reason...nothing but a game...there is no other purpose for it. He creates illusion... divides himself in to pieces... make those pieces play with each other...he is behind all the pieces... he IS all the pieces. | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4447 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
so if there is a crest related to pleasure of eating food in the brain then simultaneously a trough of starving exists.....does that mean for all the pleasure of eating food our mind has to go through the pain of starving to even it out......i agree this world is full of opposites, but why the single omnipresnt self has to simultaneously indulge in this world and also be seperate from it | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4446 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
but the stored data is converted to signals again and is processed by different centers of brain ....i think the final process is same | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5152 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.85 Rating: N/A |
pleasure and pain are not two different things. one can not exist with out the other. Pain exists because there is pleasure. When pleasure vanishes, pain vanishes. These are all just words...the levels of perception...classifications created by our mind. when there is a ripple, there is crest and there is trough. when there is positive, there will be negative. mind can not work with out classification. if you go beyond mind, then pleasure and pain both appear the same. | ||
Masularex Junior Artist Username: Masularex Post Number: 162 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 117.195.160.255 Rating: N/A |
I think, no new signals are created in dreams, our mind only processes already stored data (images sounds and remaining senses)... what we think a entirely new image in our dreams..is actually already stored data. because our memory is so deep and accurate it records every thing, our consious mind can't keep track of that enormous data. One thing I noticed, our memory records all senses simultaneously. That is why at a particular smell, you remember a certain sound or music and so on. Mind can't creat new signals that's why a blind man(from birth)never experiences images in his dreams. | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4445 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
how can we club everything into one single existence(self) and explain the opposites like....pleasure ,pain,ignorance,enlightment....why should single existence be part of both pain and pleasure......we know there is terrible pain in this world | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5150 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.85 Rating: N/A |
Yes. | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4443 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
you mean to say he is simultaneously ignorant and enlightened....he manifests as ignorant among ignorant and enlightened among enlightened | ||
Rekkadithe_gani_dokkadadhu Side Hero Username: Rekkadithe_gani_dokkadadhu Post Number: 2444 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 165.95.11.9 Rating: N/A |
ignorant about what...if u r experincing into yourself u r total oblivious about the world.... It is easy to float along with a smile when life is as sweet as a song, but a man worthwhile is one with a smile when everything goes dead wrong" - S.N. Goenka | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5149 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
yes...he is experiencing himself in all manifestations...he is the ignorant and he is the enlightened | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4442 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
you mean to say he is experiencing himself...can he become ignorant again? | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5145 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
that he is beyond pleasure and pain and the object he is experiencing is he himself! | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4440 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
what is it's true nature that it's ignorant | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5144 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
its true nature | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4439 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
what exactly is this ignorance?.. or ..what exactly original consciousness is ignorant of?... | ||
Raman Junior Artist Username: Raman Post Number: 789 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
oops MSN babai | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5143 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
because of ignorance or avidya | ||
Rekkadithe_gani_dokkadadhu Side Hero Username: Rekkadithe_gani_dokkadadhu Post Number: 2442 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 165.95.11.9 Rating: N/A |
eedeveadu? It is easy to float along with a smile when life is as sweet as a song, but a man worthwhile is one with a smile when everything goes dead wrong" - S.N. Goenka | ||
Raman Junior Artist Username: Raman Post Number: 788 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
adedo cinmalo MVs sunil ni nuvvevaru ani adugutu untadu kiki | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4438 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
another way to put it is how the original consciousness transforms to the ego level | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4437 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
philosophically false ego is not the final destination...what blocks or insulates the real ego from the experiences of false ego.... | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4436 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
for example take a chemical reaction...carbon burns with oxygen....it's interaction between two atoms....does the process generate feelings of sorrow or joy as byproducts apart from co2 | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5141 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
Philosophically - that person himself. Its the consciousness - at the level of ego or ahamkara. Biologically - there are different areas in the brain for each sensory perception. | ||
Rekkadithe_gani_dokkadadhu Side Hero Username: Rekkadithe_gani_dokkadadhu Post Number: 2439 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 165.95.11.9 Rating: N/A |
http://www.howstuffworks.com/pc.htm same way.. It is easy to float along with a smile when life is as sweet as a song, but a man worthwhile is one with a smile when everything goes dead wrong" - S.N. Goenka | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4434 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
Which part or area of that person? | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5140 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
It is that person. | ||
Raman Junior Artist Username: Raman Post Number: 787 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
emaindi babau neeku Suddenga ilanti thread esavu? naaku shake avutondi.. Calling Mental & anand help me | ||
Raman Junior Artist Username: Raman Post Number: 786 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
high command  | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4433 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
laughs,cries in a person? i have seen new born babies laughing and weeping closing their eyes.....sound and light just stimulate respective organs to generate electric signals...these signals are processed by designated areas of brain..what is the ultimate object that is effected by these signals....the object that either enjoys or suffers these signals....if these signals are generated inside brain without external stimulai then a person can see, hear,smell, taste without using his external organs....this happens in our dreams and i think it's the same case with psycological disorders...all kinds of external waves or stimulus have to be converted to electro-chemical signals for us to experience...in that sense sound wave is not something that is original....even sound is a electro-chemical phenomenon....Does evrything in the world boils down to interaction of fundamental particles with the final destination or object? |