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     Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3991 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: |
antha baane undi kaani ee sentence avasaram ledanukunta? subconscious mind has animalistic instincts. avi follow ayithe chippa thappa emi migaladu chivariki. Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2705 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
subconscious mind follow aithe peace of mind vuntundha....atla aithe vichakshana lekunda behave chese vallandaru peaceful ga vundaali ga....why majority of them end up as restless people,lunatics and psychos | ||
| Thirtyplus Junior Artist Username: Thirtyplus Post Number: 430 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 174.103.243.218 Rating: |
FYI.....nuvvu one milion dollar bag annav kabatti unchukunta anna ade ye 10000 dollar bag ayithe teesuku velli cop ki istha TDP - TODU DONGALA PARTY | ||
| Thirtyplus Junior Artist Username: Thirtyplus Post Number: 429 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 174.103.243.218 Rating: |
conscious mind is different from sub conscious mind sub conscious is based on past experiences. sub consious mind cannot be manipulated consciously what u r saying is utter B.S naa manasuku unchukovali ani pisthe unchukunta consious ga chesedhi yedava pani ani telisina unchukunta chakkaga aa dabbulu naa avasaralaku karcgupetti happy ga unta ala kaakunda consious ga ....good ga undalani...teesukuvelli cop ki ivvanu. by giving i will personally regret my whole life and eventually loose my peace. by following subconscious mind(good or bad)..u have peace of mind ala kakunda nuvvu nee manasku(subconsious) virudhanga chesthe.....u will loose peace of mind TDP - TODU DONGALA PARTY | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2704 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
i have said in my earlier posts that it's common sense that humilikty is something noble...in my opinion common sense is not something artificial.....if a rapist says he was in his natural mood when he raped..do you agree? | ||
| Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 21549 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
Realize that "you" are not the mind. Mind is only a collection of thoughts. Be aware of your thoughts. Become a witness of your mind. Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2703 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
may be it's fear....sometimes my mind doesn't listen to me and i fear the consequences of it...but it's fear out of faith in lord's presence not devoid of it... | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3989 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
late enduku cheppu Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
| Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 3912 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: |
Looks like a intresting thread, but my EGO is preventing to read this. He He... | ||
| Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 21533 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
bottom line nenu cheppanaa? Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7408 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
Oops , did not realise I chopped off part of my post 7406 ...here it comes again
Example ante - I may be inspired by others but I don't compete or compare myself with anyone - na capabilities naku telusu, am I doing the best I can is all I look at  So I may be better than some in some activites and worse than some in others - but as long as I beleive I did the right thing, external recognition/rebuttal is inconsequential But then, I am not in a competitive sport/environment - in that milieu this mindset is difficult to acheive and succeed with - Interestingly,success is an ego need too aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7407 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
Not unless you pretend to be something you are not It is only the the artificial filter of what you think you "should" be that makes you want to act "humble" in the example you gave ... If you did not act humble, your mind would not rebel Try reverse psychology on yourself - tell yourself on your next visit to the temple that you are the most egoistic person in the world - I am pretty sure your mind will rebel and tell you , you are not will you trust that either ...It is only when you do not try to impose a stand that the mind remains tranquil aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3988 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
Yes - Its tough to be good in this world  . And what you said about hinduism is also true - is a perfect philosophical system.Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7406 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
But then, I am not in a competitive sport/environment - in that milieu this mindset is difficult to acheive and succeed with - Interestingly,success is an ego need too aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1883 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 207.61.241.100 Rating: N/A |
good point In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3987 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
How can we separate mind from thoughts. Mind is nothing but a collection of thoughts. Can mind exist with out thoughts? Every thought is a reaction to an external suggestion or incident or action. That means you can train your mind to produce good thoughts. Suppose you are walking on a road and see 1 million dollar bag. Your instinct will be to keep the money (subconscious effect). But you will put a conscious effort and say to yourself that it is unethical to take that money and force yourself to submit the bag to a cop. If you do such actions repeatedly, the good thought would become your second nature or subconscious thought. That means you conquered and replaced your initial thought with this one. Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
| Thirtyplus Junior Artist Username: Thirtyplus Post Number: 428 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 174.103.243.218 Rating: N/A |
i guess u had more fear of god than faith or humility as u said. TDP - TODU DONGALA PARTY | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2702 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
in an attempt to accept what you are (soul) you may endup in most cases accept what you are not (I or ego) | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7405 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
So the soul is already noble, humble and perfect antaru Absolutely agree with that...Anduke if accept yourself as you are non-judgementally you will see the shining soul and be in harmony annanu Have a good weekend aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6295 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Deeniki edanna example isthara.. naku telsi ee accepting oneself non-judgementally and objectively kuda relative anipisthundi.. For ex - I very well know that I am not good at football so I dont comapre myself with others who play football.But same thing wont hold good in other situations.. when i compete i get judgemental and therefore i definitley wont be in harmony. | ||
| Thirtyplus Junior Artist Username: Thirtyplus Post Number: 427 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 174.103.243.218 Rating: N/A |
manasu batti alochanalu untai alochanala batti manasu kaadu consious ga maarchukundham anukovatam is the biggest mistake one will be doing by doing so...u will loose ur peace of mind TDP - TODU DONGALA PARTY | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 5895 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: |
And there lies the deadlock ishan bhai...Integrity is so fluid in implementation...there are some people who think that they define their integrity...some take a charted course and accept their elders as their beacons. I am not even mooting the metrics necessary for absolutism along those lines...but what I want to delineate here is that.....a self proclaimed integrity is no better than generations of wisdom..if not inferior based on a certain axiomatic structure called numerate logic. I agree with u that instinctively humans are keyed to be irrational...worse off...we are not even consistent...we tend of ward off a certain structure of logic as impractical in certain contexts and tend to profess it in others....... If u tend to look at our own scriptures, humility is stressed strongly not as a show piece virtue but as state of mind.......Being humble is not being nice to everyone you come across but being open to all ideas that ur intellect parses...taking it prima facie as a plausible truth and rejecting it if it doesn't sit well with broader set moral code...... As a detour, Hinduism itself preaches total abstinence from things like promiscuous sex, alcohol etc....if you observe today's so called liberalists...these things are are called with in the sphere of "Personal choice"....U are aware of the reason why alcohol was barred form usage for all who want to lead a moral life...it numbs ones senses and hence is said to have a recessive effect on the intellect. Furthermore, srushutha mentions that Alcohol as a placebo to escape from the burden of reality makes a person even more feeble emotionally to deal with the harsh realities of life.... At the same time, alcohol is cited as a temporary antiseptic for amputation...So our ancestors were smart to understand the utility of each thing that man could extract from nature but were also wise to preach extreme moderation.... Hinduism's greatest strength was to see that abstinence starts from freeing ones soul from all cravings...and tune it to the eventual reality of merger into the omkara...the state of brahmananda....a transcendence from the yogic state of meditation. If we peer through any scripture, the standards tenet is to see oneself as a part of the whole and understand that....our objective is to merge as a unison into the broader cosmos. Lot of people mock, ridicule and detest this philosophy coz for most of them...the transience of life laden with so called physical pleasures is the ultimate reality and is the only tangible truth. But as the end approaches, no matter how accomplished a person is, we tend to live more and more.....in as much as people want to refute it...majority of the folks (99%) have an end that we try to fight, reinforcing the fact that our ego needs to be trained to be humble...not in the sense of appeasing everyone but being true to the idea of treating every thought properly | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2701 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
it's not adding them to soul but making the noble traits that are characteristic of soul shine by diluting the "I" | ||
| Jalsa Moderator Username: Jalsa Post Number: 13235 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
To add a bit more, I think one of the dangeroue offshoot of this egocentricism is selective morality and selective honesty which lead to a gap between you and others. We choose to be honest and moral at our convenience but we apply aboslute standards when judging others. ------------ superrr | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7403 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
Then why do you think you can add traits to the soul through actions of "I" ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2700 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
noble traits originate from soul...not from I or ego | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7402 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
Whose trait is it ? Yours , right ? And you only exist as a separate entity long as your ego does My definition of ego is our sense of self. The day ego is annihilated , "I" ceases to exist - then there is no question of having traits - noble or ignoble If your definition of ego is different from the above then we are talking different things aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Parthasaradhi Comedian Username: Parthasaradhi Post Number: 1100 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 68.36.127.150 Rating: N/A |
so true. ee mooodu 3 very different purposes kosam design chesaaru. Just first di correct gaaa cheste jnanam danathata ade vastundi ani nenu nammuthaaa. Adi shankaraacharyula meeda thotakaastakam raaasina Thotakacharyulu oka example. A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance --- Hunter S. Thompson | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2699 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
goppadanam ante materialistic, egoistic goppatanam ani kadhu....spiritual, sublime goppadanam....it's a noble, natural trait ani ardham | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7401 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
So isn't it your "ego" aspiring for that goppatanam Idivaraku DB lo evariko cheppanu - when you make humility a desirable trait to be acheived, you are being counterproductive- inflating the ego in the process ..."I" am humble, "I" am moral, "I" am ethical... "I" is stronger than ever, comparative morality/humility infact anything relative is an ego need Ego is what draws the boundary between mee and the universe The more "I" do , the more distinct "I" am from the universe When you accept yourself non-judgementally and objectively for what you are - the mind does not rebel - thoughts flow through without conflict,only your values drive your actions, you stop comparing yourself to others , and are in harmony with yourself and the universe Have to go You guys have fun aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3986 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
Yes - But whatever stance we take and whatever action we do, we need to be able to have proper reason. And by proper, I mean it should reflect integrity, fairminded ness, empathy and intellectuality. If someone is going to be negatively affected by our decisions and actions,the victim, if s/he ever logically analyzes your situation later, must be able to give you an edge based on the resources you had and choices that you could have made and realize that that was the best decision that could have been taken under those circumstances. To make such decisions, we need to develop critical thinking. Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2698 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
 anduke vidhya nerchukuneppudu guruvu gari kaallu nokki sewa chesukovali....talli tandrulanu sevinchukovali...peddalanu mundhu tala egara veyyakoodadhu ani mana peddavallu cheppedhi.....it's should be part of life from very beginning...madhyalo rammante antha telikaga raadhu humility...there is a reason why indian society and family is hierarchial...it trains everybody to bow before somebody...ippudu choodandi evaraina don't care..andaru andari mundhu tala egarestaaru | ||
| Parthasaradhi Comedian Username: Parthasaradhi Post Number: 1099 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 68.36.127.150 Rating: N/A |
I think egocentrism more or less translates to swaardham. Daaniki peddalu cheppina remedy 'help others'. It is like if you have negative charge, add more positive charge to get it to neutral. Ofcourse, idi meeku teliyadu ani kaadu. But, that's how I deal with it. In my case, it is always me fighting with myself. A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance --- Hunter S. Thompson | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6294 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
I think the only reason why you wont be able to humble before god is that you have pride and that gives you right to question god. Unless you let go of your pride, you wont be able to surrender yourself to god or to anything for that matter. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2697 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
enduku ante ...sarva dharman parityjya mamekam sharanam vraja ani krishna gita lo cheppadu kabatti...humility anedhi chala goppa trait ani common sense cheptundhi kabatti....anand garu welcome to the thread | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7400 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
Why ? Idi okkati answer cheste you will get the remaining answers aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3985 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
I wouldn't say anger is bad. But proper channelizing is important. When you are extremely angry with a person our irrational part of the mind says go and kill him - thats an instinctive reaction. But if you stop yourself for a while and use different techniques of reasoning you will see more useful approach to counter that kind of anger. However, there will be instances, though rare, it would be just Ok to go and punch a guy. In those cases there wouldn't be a reason not to hit him. Thus I think anger management is very situation based. Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
| Stig Side Hero Username: Stig Post Number: 3481 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 74.105.123.107 Rating: N/A |
Em ledankul .... ee thread lo unna perlu soodaandi ... ISHAN, GETAFIX,HD,Vijvasi,DER .... ilaanti names tho patu STIG ni kooda soosi murisipodamani .... alpa santoshini ....  Ilaantivi chadivtene kada burra kastayina perutundi !!------- Bazinga! | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2696 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
Agree...i think when in meditation both rational and irrational mind combines with no conflict..it used to be like that before for me...but now one part of the mind listens to the sound and another part either wanders or observes the listening mind...i am multitasking now | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 5894 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
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| Stig Side Hero Username: Stig Post Number: 3480 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 74.105.123.107 Rating: N/A |
 ------- Bazinga! | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2695 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
we fight because it's a type of material pleasure...i was listening to a solider interview with billmehar...he was saying many people who participated in combat get easily bored after leaving military....they get addicted to that vigilance, uncertainity, adventure and comraiderie among themselves while in combat | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 7852 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14 Rating: N/A |
@Der sorry did not answer you yday started typing a reply then there were a million thoughts every time i typed something this thread is a great place for me to explore those thoughts | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3984 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
On the one hand, the human mind has an instinctive tendency toward irrationality. On the other hand, it has a native capacity for rationality. To effectively take command of our mind, we must develop the ability to (1) monitor the mind's tendency toward egocentric or irrational thinking, and (2) attack it with corrective rational thought. Our irrational mind is not concerned with the rights or needs of others and also ours. It has no ethical dimension to it. Our rational mind, properly developed, is both intellectual and ethical. It has intellectual command of itself and ethical sensitivity as well. Intellectual skill and fair-mindedness are joined into one integrated mode of thinking. When our rational mind is underdeveloped or not engaged, however, our native egocentrism functions as a default mechanism. If we don't control it, it controls us! When we do yoga, for the first few minutes, the mind wanders like a drunken monkey. Once we slowly and consciously focus on the symbol, it stops. That means you have successfully conquered irrationality consciously. Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 5893 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: |
great thread ishan bahi..and getafix had some really good points...thanks... My thoughts: 1.) Egocentric thinking is at the very heart of human survival at all levels of thought and action. Relativism has percolated to every corner of the human thought. As an instance, yesterday, I asked H_D bhayya about his take on how he views western incursions that has almost killed millions of people in the last 3 decades alone while he as so very concerned about some reported honor killing... My intent was to understand how he/you/I rationalize our own conscious efforts at being moral at varied levels of personal comfort. The point as Ishan raised here is that most of us seldom venture out of that comfort zone to ask ourselves some objective questions. This is akin to the pleasure derived out of the status quo. Any immediate gratification has a illusion of being tangible and hence being real. That is the curse of pleasures on all fronts. The causal chains of reason and ethics mend themselves against the overriding force of tangibility that an immediate pleasure affords. Most of materialism/relativism/Objectivism is borne out of this push to seize the status quo and since it gives us pleasure, this is the only truth. Furthermore, any person who values life will be sensitive to all kinds of life may it be of a human or an animal. That is the objective truth of being compassionate cuz compassion is not ego centric but by definition is the tendency to seek harmony in existence. Discounting the fact that this might or might not be the right way to live, any person who claims himself to be liberal should by virtue of its central tenet of equality be extremely compassionate to all life forms and shud not discern between an anthropomorphic universe or the other. The rules of our scrutiny breakdown woefully in the light of the appearance of our heroes. They seem incapable of an impropriety, if there exists one. Weaklings ask for compassion to persevere and the strong ones press for total control. This has been the immutable truth in as much as I have understood nature. People play victims to seek sympathy with a motive to eke out a life and the strength of men drive them to kill more to feel ever empowered. Can we take sides in this battle. We all do. Some times the former and sometimes the latter. | ||
| Ruj Comedian Username: Ruj Post Number: 1976 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
gudilo avvadhu malli ila..intlo mathrame avutundhi.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Ruj Comedian Username: Ruj Post Number: 1975 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
naaku avutundhi bro..chempalesukuni malli modhalu pedutha slokam..malli uncontrollably boothul vachesthayi mindloki..idhe phobia no ento.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6293 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
5 stars kaadu singles ani sadukondi ani requesting.TIA. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2694 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
sometimes it happens to me | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2693 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
it's main purpose is not to abuse lord..but to defeat me...it comes when you try to restrict yourself or in psycological terms restrict free association of brain...any way the common term used for it is ego... | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6292 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Self single esukotaniki reason - naa posts ki 5 stars padi adi nen chusukunte ..nenu entane single esi neutralise chesukunta.. that helps me in not getting carried way. Ala ani nenu vere valla posts ki 5 stars veyyanu.. so nannu anumaninchakandi .. --------------------- ishan brother.. Good points. Nuvvu ichina scenarios and measures to think critically are solid.. but here is my doubt or more of a question..chala varaku situations osthai where there is not enough clarity? then what.. chache confusion create avuthundi. for ex - Anger is not good. It is evil ani anni chotla chadukuntam kaani manaki injustice avuthunte manaku kopam ravatam thappa leka righta? Not sure If my question is relevant here..still wanted to ask. | ||
| Ruj Comedian Username: Ruj Post Number: 1974 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
Ardham kaaledu bro..ante meeru devudiki dannam pettukuntunte mee manasulo mee control lo lekundane devudini tittesthara?? Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Megastar Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 20404 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.100.28.147 Rating: N/A |
in psychology its called deviant personality....u goto lord but some part of ur brain wants to abuse him n think dirty about him....it got nothing to do with ego....ur just deviant i guess.... | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2692 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
it's not that easy anukuntunna bro...it may take several life times ...though we may feel we have changed when a situation challenges our ego and existence the hidden real nature pops out | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6291 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Nene eskunna brother  .. btw nee #3977 post chaduthunna.. oka doubt ochindi.. adugutha in few mins lo. | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3981 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
evaru babu single star vesindi Getafix post ki? andulo thappemundi? clarify chesthara? Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3980 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
I think this hardcoded behaviour is basically subconscious mind which is composed of innate genetic tendencies plus certain patterns we acquire when we are growing up. But this innate and unreflective behavior can be changed and dominated/replaced by conscious efforts and rational thinking. Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6290 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
@vja annai nenu conflict ani precisely ade situation drushtilo petkuni anna. Meeru extrapolate chesaru. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2691 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
mine is somewhat different case...my mind always tries to defeat me, my ethics and my sensibilities.....for example sometimes when i go for a darshan of lord and try to be humble before him, immediately it tries to abuse lord, it tries to challenge him...i don't know when i can overcome this...maybe humility is not in my nature | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2689 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
the more we go inside the more we realise that we are not in control of ourselves.....much of our behaviour is hardcoded...but to realise that it is hardcoded is a big step before surrender...each personality has two divisions...one is hardcoded nature, the other is the cognizance of that hard coded nature and helplessness | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3977 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
Superb brother. Let me elaborate this inquiry method by quoting academic way of expression to combat egocentricism. To understand the human mind, we must recognize its essential duality. On the one hand, the human mind has an instinctive tendency toward irrationality. On the other hand, it has a native capacity for rationality. To effectively take command of our mind, we must develop the ability to (1) monitor the mind's tendency toward egocentric or irrational thinking, and (2) attack it with corrective rational thought. Our irrational mind is not concerned with the rights or needs of others. It has no ethical dimension to it. Our rational mind, properly developed, is both intellectual and ethical. It has intellectual command of itself and ethical sensitivity as well. Intellectual skill and fair-mindedness are joined into one integrated mode of thinking. When our rational mind is underdeveloped or not engaged, however, our native egocentrism functions as a default mechanism. If we don't control it, it controls us! The more we know about human egocentrism, the more we can recognize it in ourselves, and thus the more we can attack or overrule it. One of the ways to achieve this end is to develop the habit of analyzing the logic of our own thinking. We model the inner voice of the critical thinker using this strategy and the following questions: 1. We can analyze our goals and purposes. What am I really after in this situation? Are my goals reasonable? Am I acting in good faith? Do I have any hidden agenda? 2. We can question the way we define problems and issues. Is this a reasonable way to put the question at issue? Am I biasing or loading the question by the way I am putting it? Am I framing the question in a self-serving way? Am I asking a question simply to pursue my selfish interests? 3. We can assess the information base of our thinking. What information am I basing my thinking on? Is that a legitimate source of information? Is there another source of information I need to consider? Am I considering all the relevant information, or only the relevant information that supports my view? Am I distorting the weight of the information in a self-serving way, blowing some of the information out of proportion while diminishing the value of other relevant information? Am I egocentrically refusing to check on the accuracy of some information because, if I find out it is not accurate, I will be forced to change my view? 4. We can rethink our conclusion or interpretation. Am I coming to an illogical conclusion because it is in my interest to do so? Am I refusing to look at this situation more logically because I simply don't want to, because if I do, I will have to behave differently? 5. We can analyze the ideas or concepts we are using in our thinking. How am I using the ideas most basic to my thinking? Am I using words in keeping with educated usage, or am I slanting or misusing some words to serve my vested interest? 6. We can identify and check our assumptions. What am I assuming or taking for granted? Are those assumptions reasonable? Are they in any way self-serving or one-sided? Am I making egocentric assumptions in my thinking (such as, "Everyone always dumps on me," or "Life should be without problems," or "There's nothing I can do; I'm trapped")? Are my expectations of others reasonable or am I assuming a double standard? 7. We can analyze our point of view. Am I refusing to consider another relevant point of view so I can maintain my own self-serving view? Am I fully taking into account the viewpoint of others, or am I just going through the motions of "hearing" without actually listening to what others are saying? Put another way, am I honestly trying to understand the situation from another perspective, or am I merely trying to win an argument, to score points? 8. We can follow through on the implications of our thinking. Am I genuinely thinking through the implications, or possible consequences, of my thoughts and behavior, or would I rather not consider them? Am I avoiding thinking through implications because I don't want to know what they are (because then I will be forced to change my thinking, to think more rationally about the situation)? Hope it helps! Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6285 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: |
I am not sure if there is a set way to deal with egcentrism. As for me , I do an in depth enquiry into my own actions and examine the decisions I take. Often times by doing so , I feel conflicted ,confused and frustrated but then I never stop enquiring my actions because I cant help it .. it is almost like an automated thought that gets triggered from time to time. Second question - Personally speaking yes.By dealing with your ego and overcoming it you will achieve balance and harmony with in. We must achieve peace within ourselves first before setting out to do good to others.. My 2 cents! | ||
| Methhanithodugu Side Hero Username: Methhanithodugu Post Number: 4499 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.91.214 Rating: N/A |
Aham Naasthi Sukham Naasthi CM42014 | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 7841 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14 Rating: N/A |
//To add a bit more, I think one of the dangeroue offshoot of this egocentricism is selective morality and selective honesty which lead to a gap between you and others. We choose to be honest and moral at our convenience but we apply aboslute standards when judging others.// super chepparu annai | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6284 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: |
To add a bit more, I think one of the dangeroue offshoot of this egocentricism is selective morality and selective honesty which lead to a gap between you and others. We choose to be honest and moral at our convenience but we apply aboslute standards when judging others. | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3976 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.238.221 Rating: N/A |
One of the fundamental challenges most humans face in developing is that our life is dominated by a tendency to think and feel egocentrically. Our life is deeply situated in our own immediate desires, pains, thoughts, and feelings. We seek immediate gratification or long-term gratification based on an essentially selfish perspective. We are not typically or fundamentally concerned with whether our perceptions or meanings are accurate, though we may think we are. We are not significantly concerned with personal growth, self-insight, or ultimate integrity, though we think we are. We are not deeply motivated to discover our own weaknesses, prejudices, or self-deception. Rather, we seek to get what we want, avoid the disapproval of others, and justify ourselves in our own mind. The tendency for humans to think in an egocentric fashion means that, typically, we have little or no real insight into the nature of our own thinking and emotions. For example, many of us unconsciously believe that it is possible to acquire knowledge without much thought, that it is possible to read without exerting intellectual energy, and that good writing is a talent one is born with - not a product of practice and hard work. As a result, we tend to evade responsibility for our own development. We do not seek to learn new ways of looking at things. Much of our thinking is stereotypical and simplistic, yet our egocentrism prevents us from recognizing this. We create the inner chains that enslave us. These inner chains can have a negative effect on our relationships, success, growth, and happiness. It is not possible to get beyond the egocentrism that you and I inherit as human beings by ignoring our ego or pretending that we are decent people. We can restrain our egocentrism only by developing explicit habits that enable us to do so. We get beyond egocentric emotional responses not by denying that we ever respond in such a way but, rather, by owning these responses when they occur and restructuring the thinking that is feeding those emotions. For example, each of us wants to see ourselves as an ethical person. Yet, through our egocentrism we often behave in ways that are blatantly unethical. Industries, for example, often engage in systematic practices that result in large amounts of pollutants in the environment. Yet if asked to explain their behavior, they will instead justify it through rationalization. They will make comments such as "We meet and exceed all of the federal regulations for pollution control, and in fact we do more than most companies to ensure that we don't pollute." Yet these companies are often hiding behind the concept of "federal regulations." They are not essentially concerned with the ethical or unethical nature of their behavior. Rather they are concerned simply with following the regulations. In cases such as these, industry leaders are unconcerned with whether they are actually polluting. They may not even know whether they are causing damage to the environment. And very often they do not want to know. Through their egocentrism they are able to avoid self-scrutiny. They are able to go on engaging in practices that will yield the highest monetary gain, without reference to the impact of the behavior on the environment. Have you ever thought along these lines. Have you observed or perceived the obvious effects of egocentrism in your personal and professional lives? What do you think are the apt measures to deal with egocentrism? Should we deal with it at all? Please share your feelings and thoughts. Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs |
