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EkOrAmArAdhyaru:
Sage EkOrAma is said to have written commentary of brahma sUtra. He is associated with the mallikArjuna linga of sudhA kuNDa. He established a monastary at shrI shaila.

http://www.shaivam.org/virashaivam/adv_panca.htm
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srisailam god kooda modatlo tribals worship chesevallu.



Ledhu... maama.... idhi Veera Shaivula 5 peeTalo.. idhi kooda ...... vela samvastraala nundi vunnavi...
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Atavikula .. same exact idhe word vaaDaru athanu..... konDalo vunDe vaallu chesukunna bomma adhi.. annaru... dhaani kolusthunaaru....



1993/94 lo anukonta AJ sunday edition lo ichadu. ilanti story. but conclusion ledu. myth annadi pakkana pedte...
aa statue oka lady warrior/princess kavachu anna type lo cheppadu. position of left hand. inka breasts kooda. avi cover cheyyadaniki.. laxmi/padma or bhoodevi la image to cover chesaru. oka sword kooda untadi lady warrior pettukonetlu ga.. baga observe cheste anipistundi .. ippati fotos lo clear ga agupinchatledu.30 years back di oka pedda poster undedi maa intlo. adi keen ga observ cheste sword la anipinchindi AJ article chadivaka.. but sure ga cheppalenu.
it could be a prince of some tamil kingdom or tribal in that area.
Srinivasa story sooste. princess padmavati tammudu kattinchina temple. tribal prince ayye chance undi. "naga bhooshanam" shivites/tribals veskontar anukonta.

tribals gods ni mana god ga convert chesekonnam anna point lo aa article rasadu. temple door kooda aa tribal valle open chestaru annatlu rasadu. srisailam god kooda modatlo tribals worship chesevallu. later pandits/kings/other public vochi valla nundi lakkonnaru ani.

idol shakti/prince/princes/budha/shiva/vishnu or some tribal king evaraina anavasaram. "venkateshwara" ane god paina unna bhakti ee matram taggadu.
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Dorling . How are you? long time no C. nuvvu kooda shaivite va



Dorling .. nenu dynamite ni ..
Bharat Mata ki Jai :-)
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Sri Rambhauri seer has said that researchers and intellectuals must seriously think towards including âShakthi Vishishtadvaita dharmaâ propagated by Jagadguru Renukacharya in history textbooks.


Addressing the reporters on Thursday he said that there are four Sanathana Dharma principles namely-Dvaitha, Advaitha, Vishishtadvaita and Shakti Vishishtadvaita. While Dvaita has Madhwacharya as its exponent, Advaita has Shankaracharya and Vishishtadvaita has Ramanujacharya, Shakti Vishishtadvaita has Renukacharya as its exponent.

âHistorians have documented the names of the first three philosophers in the pages of history but the name of Renukacharya has been left in the dark. History should be built on foundation of truth and accuracy. Renukacharyaâs name must be documented in history,â he said and added that in historians should conduct study on Shakthi Vishishtadvaita and bring the same to the notice of the government and include information on this philosophy in school text books.

He said that Balehonnur is fit to be declared as a taluk centre and Taluk Horata Samiti has already submitted the related documents to the government in this regard. Announcing his support to the struggle for formation of Balehonnur taluk, he said that Balehonnur must be given priority while forming new taluks in future.
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Ishan:

Yes its a fact. vaishnavism di oka era unde few hundred years ago...they dominated for a long time...shaivism was the first and most ancient religion in india, especially in south. agama shasthras which are primarily focussed on shiva and shakthi are as old as vedas...and most of temple cultures in south, particularly TN follow agamas than vedic rituals. Tamils believe that their civilization is 7000 years old.





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ok agamas, vedas gurinchi vahcindhi kabatti, nenu na IBDB days notes ninchi oka part post chesthunna.. interest unna vallu discussion continue cheyandi...

will get back to this thread tomorrow. ekkada ninchi collect chesaano naaku gurthu ledhu...

Agama and Vedas:

(i) Nishkala and Sakala:

The term Agama primarily means tradition; Agama is also that which helps to understand things correctly and comprehensively. Agama Shastras are not part of the Vedas. The Agamas do not derive their authority directly from the Vedas. They are Vedic in spirit and character and make use of Vedic mantras while performing the service.

The Agama shastras are based in the belief that the divinity can be approached in two ways. It can be viewed as nishkala, formless â absolute; or as sakala having specific aspects.

Nishkala is all-pervasive and is neither explicit nor is it visible. It is analogues, as the Agama texts explain, to the oil in the sesame-seed, fire in the fuel, butter in milk, and scent in flower. It is in human as antaryamin, the inner guide. It has no form and is not apprehended by sense organs, which includes mind.

Sakala, on the other hand, is explicit energy like the fire that has emerged out of the fuel, oil extracted out of the seed, butter that floated to the surface after churning milk or like the fragrance that spreads and delights all. That energy can manifest itself in different forms and humans can approach those forms through appropriate means. The Agamas recognize that means as the archa, the worship methods unique to each form of energy-manifestation or divinity.

The Vedas do not discuss about venerating the icons; though the icons (prathima or prathika) were known to be in use. Their preoccupation was more with the nature, abstract divinities and not with their physical representations. The Vedas did however employ a number of symbols, such as the wheel, umbrella, spear, noose, foot-prints, lotus, goad and vehicles etc. These symbols, in the later ages, became a part of the vocabulary of the iconography.

(ii) Multiple Forms:

The idea of multiple forms of divinity was in the Vedas .They spoke about thirty-three divinities classified into those of the earth, heaven and intermediate regions. Those comprised twelve adityas, aspects of energy and life; eleven rudras, aspects ferocious nature; eight vasus, the directional forces; in addition to the earth and the space.

The aspects of the thirty-three divinities were later condensed to three viz. Agni, the aspect of fire, energy and life on earth; Vayu, the aspect of space, movement and air in the mid-region; and Surya the universal energy and life that sustains and governs all existence, in the heavenly region, the space. This provided the basis for the evolution of the classic Indian trinity, the Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu.

Rig Veda at many places talks in terms of saguna, the supreme divinity with attributes. The Vedanta ideals of the absolute, attribute- less and limit-less universal consciousness evolved as refinements of those Vedic concepts. The Upanishads are the pinnacles of idealism that oversee all horizons. But, in practice common people worshipped variety of gods in variety of ways for variety of reasons. They are relevant in the context of each ones idea of needs and aspirations; fears and hopes; safety and prosperity; and, the pleasures and pains.

(iii) Tantra, Yantra and Mantra:

One often hears Agama and Nigama mentioned in one breath as if one follows the other or that both are closely related. However, Nigama stands for Vedas and Agama is identified with Tantra. The Vedic concept of God is omniscient, omnipotent, a formless absolute entity manifesting itself in phenomenal world of names and forms. The Agama which is a part of Tantra regards God as a personal deity with recognizable forms and attributes.

Vedic worship is centered on the fire (the Yajna), certain religious and domestic rituals, (shrauta sutraas and griyha sutraas), and the sacraments, (samskaara). In this tradition, the gods and their descriptions are, mostly, symbolic.

The most widespread rituals of worship today are of the Aagamic variety. The Agama methods are worship of images of God through rituals (Tantra), symbolic charts (Yantra) and verbal symbols (Mantra).

Agama regards devotion and complete submission to the deity as fundamental to pursuit of its aim; and hopes that wisdom, enlightenment (jnana) would follow, eventually, by the grace of the worshipped deity. The Agama is basically dualistic, seeking grace, mercy and love of the Supreme God represented by the personal deity, for liberation from earthly attachments (moksha).

As compared to Vedic rituals (Yajnas) which are collective in form, where a number of priests specialized in each disciple of the Sacrifical aspects participate; the Tantra or Agamic worship is individualistic in character. It views the rituals as a sort of direct communication between the worshipper and his or her personal deity. The Yajnas always take place in public places and are of congregational nature; and in which large numbers participate with gaiety and enthusiasm. A Tantra ritual, on the other hand, is always carried out in quiet privacy; self discipline and intensity is its hallmark, not exuberance or enthusiasm.

The culmination of these two dissimilar streams of worship is the temple worship. It could be argued that a representation of the Supreme Godhead is theoretically impossible; yet one has also to concede that an image helps in contemplation, visualization and concretization of ideas and aspirations.

(iv) Temple Worship:

Here, at the temple, both the Vedic and the Tantric worships take place; but each in its sphere. A temple in Hindu tradition is a public place of worship; several sequences of worship are conducted in full view of the worshipping devotees; and another set of rituals are conducted by the priests in the privacy of the sanctum away from public gaze.

The temple worship is guided by its related Agama texts which invariably borrow the mantras from the Vedic traditions and the ritualistic details from Tantric traditions. This has the advantage of claiming impressive validity from Nigama, the Vedas; and at the same time, carrying out popular methods of worship.

(v) Grihya Sutras, Agamas and Vedas:

Bodhayana shesha sutra and Vishhnu-pratishtha kalpa outline certain rite for the installation of an image of Vishnu and for conduting other services. The Agama texts combined the rules of the Grihya sutras with the Tantric practices and formed their own set of rules.

While installing the image of the deity, the Grihya Sutras do not envisage Prana-prathistapana ritual (transferring life into the idol by breathing life into it); but the Agamas borrowed this practice from the Tantra school and combined it with the Vedic ceremony of âopening the eyes of the deity with a needleâ.

While rendering worship to the deity the Agamas discarded the Tantric mantras; and instead adopted Vedic mantras even for services such as offering ceremonial bath , waving lights etc. though such practices were not a part of the Vedic mode of worship.

The Agamas, predominantly, adopted the Vedic style Homas and Yajnas, which were conducted in open and in which a large number of people participated. But, the Agamas did not reject the Tantric rituals altogether; and some of them were conducted within the sanctum away from common view.

(vi) Agama as Vedanga:

The Vaikhanasa Vasishnava archana vidhi, which perhaps was the earliest text of its kind, codified the of worship practices by judicious combination of Vedic and Tantric procedures.

In addition, the worship routine was rendered more colourful and attractive by incorporating a number of ceremonial services (upacharas) and also presentations of music, dance, drama and other performing arts. It also brought in the Janapada, the popular celebrations like Uthsavas etc, These ensured larger participation of the enthusiastic devotees.

The Agamas tended to create their own texts. That gave rise to a new class of texts and rituals; and coincided with the emergence of the large temples. It is not therefore surprising that town-planning, civil constructions and the arts occupy the interest of early Agamas.

In due course the Agama came to be accepted as a subsidiary culture (Vedanga) within the Vedic framework.
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Sakthi VishaStadvaita... :-)




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Siva-Sakti is advaitam
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shakthi




Sakthi VishaStadvaita... :-)

naaku knowledge 1% kooda ledhh... ee sari India vellinappudu...
motham anni doubts adigi telisukunTaanu....
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Ishan:

agama shasthras which are primarily focussed on shiva and shakthi are as old as vedas...and most of temple cultures in south, particularly TN follow agamas than vedic rituals. Tamils believe that their civilization is 7000 years old.




nenu cheppaleka poya ee maaTa innalu.. :D nuvvu cheppav annai...
Vedas follow kaamu anTey.. yekkaDa hinduvu kaadhu ani veli vestaaru anukunna... :-(
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Ruj:

vannai..ooko..AP erpadinapudu ante dadapu 60ela krindhate tirupathi kavala sennai kavala ante..tirupathi annaru manolu..appatike tirupathi ee rangelo manolu pramukyatha icharu ardham avutondhi....




yrs pakkana peTTu.... ayana annamaaaTa nammabuddi kaaledhu .. naaku...
may be konnala krindhaTa... anuko...
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Atavikula .. same exact idhe word vaaDaru athanu..... konDalo vunDe vaallu chesukunna bomma adhi.. annaru... dhaani kolusthunaaru....
oka 60 yrs back anthaga evaru vellevaaru kaadhu ippudu baaga velthunaar ani



vannai..ooko..AP erpadinapudu ante dadapu 60ela krindhate tirupathi kavala sennai kavala ante..tirupathi annaru manolu..appatike tirupathi ee rangelo manolu pramukyatha icharu ardham avutondhi....:D
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The earliest historical evidence of Saivism is from the 8,000-year-old Indus Valley civilization in the form of the famous seal of Siva as Lord Pashupati, seated in a yogic pose. In the Ramayana, Lord Rama worshiped Siva, as did his rival Ravana. Buddha in 624 bce was born into a Saivite family, and records of his time speak of the Saiva ascetics who wandered the hills looking much as they do today.
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maa devudiki



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ekkado chadiva.okapudu kalahasti ekkuva prasidhi tirupathi kante ante..


yes its a fact. vaishnavism di oka era unde few hundred years ago...they dominated for a long time...shaivism was the first and most ancient religion in india, especially in south. agama shasthras which are primarily focussed on shiva and shakthi are as old as vedas...and most of temple cultures in south, particularly TN follow agamas than vedic rituals. Tamils believe that their civilization is 7000 years old.
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ponle, jesus vigraham ani evvaru anatledhu



Kamal:

nenu Tirupati lo konda kinda oka converted christian tho matladithe .. Venkateswara is Christ's incarnation annadu



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maama tirupathi kosam naaku lingadhara chesina guruvu garu cheppindhi nekeu chepthey nannu..ikkada chaala mandhi kummuthaar.... nenu nammaledhu ayana maaTal :D



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Atavikula .. same exact idhe word vaaDaru athanu..... konDalo vunDe vaallu chesukunna bomma adhi.. annaru... dhaani kolusthunaaru....
oka 60 yrs back anthaga evaru vellevaaru kaadhu ippudu baaga velthunaar ani :-)
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Mental_sachinodu:


Tamilians lo shaivites, vaishnavites konchem pattimpu unna valla tho matladithe untundhi.. abooo... bheebathsa kaanda..


You know vaishnavites in TN wont go to shavite temples! But shaivites go to theirs' naa kalllaaara choosa vaalla fighting...hilarious ga untundi..
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sivudoo vishnuvoo..edho okati..bhakthi tho poojinchandi babu adhe chaalu...devudu ela pilichina palukuthadu..sivudiki vishnuvuki aa mathram understanding undi le..

ishan bhayya,

ekkado chadiva.okapudu kalahasti ekkuva prasidhi tirupathi kante ante..ippudu tirupathi..malli bhavisyathlo kalahasti avutundhi ani brahmam garu sepparu..

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Tirumala lo unna Venkateshwara Swamy idol shivudi vigraham ani Shaiviks, Vishnuvu vigraham ani vaishnavites, Buddhudi vigraham ani buddhists, Amma vaari vigraham ani kontha mandi kottukuntunnaaru anta!



ponle, jesus vigraham ani evvaru anatledhu
Jai Chiranajeeva...
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Mental_sachinodu:

shaivites, vaishnavites



Annai, okasari veella gurinchi details ga postu! Till today, I thought they were 2 sects of Brahmanism! Ee roju Sagar chepthe thelsindi- Brahman, Shaivites and Vaishnavites veru veru ani!
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enti Sivudini .. "maa" antunnav ..

"mana" anu ..


Dorling . How are you? long time no C. nuvvu kooda shaivite va
Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart
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Sagar:




Sagar bro,
emi parledhu ikkada veyandi post.. Konni vela allegations vasthuntaayi, anni nijaalu kaavu, anni abadhaalu kaavu.

Tamilians lo shaivites, vaishnavites konchem pattimpu unna valla tho matladithe untundhi.. abooo... bheebathsa kaanda..
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Kish:

Controversial aithe ikkada seppaku- phone lo seppu!




maama Lord Venkatewswara swami antey chaala bakthi.. chaala sarlu thala neelalu icchanu... naDiche konDekkuthaanu.....

konchem alanTidhe call cheyyyu chepta... neeku :-)
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Sagar:

guruvu garu cheppindhi nekeu chepthey nannu..ikkada chaala mandhi kummuthaar.... nenu nammaledhu ayana maaTal




Controversial aithe ikkada seppaku- phone lo seppu! :D
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Kish:




evening call cheyy..office ayyaka :D cheptaanu neeku..
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Kish:




maama tirupathi kosam naaku lingadhara chesina guruvu garu cheppindhi nekeu chepthey nannu..ikkada chaala mandhi kummuthaar.... nenu nammaledhu ayana maaTal :D
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Sagar:




http://ia331336.us.archive.org/3/items/historyoftirupat03550 4mbp/historyoftirupat035504mbp.pdf
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Ishan:

he he i was just joking...anduke kada brahmi icon yettindi




nuvvu joke chesdina dhaanilo chaaala nijam vundhile annai...

Buddha puTTindhi kooda Shivula intlone :-) Jainism ni thokkesindhi evaruu :D
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Ishan:

okappudu kalahasthi was almost equal to kashi unde...ee vaishnavaites andaru kalisi maa devudiki anyayam sesaaru....



enti Sivudini .. "maa" antunnav ..

"mana" anu ..
Bharat Mata ki Jai :-)
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Mental_sachinodu:



Sagar:

annai nuvvu kooda naaalane maatladuthunaav...


he he i was just joking...anduke kada brahmi icon yettindi
Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart
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Ishan:




annai nuvvu kooda naaalane maatladuthunaav...
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Ishan:

maa devudiki





Kamal:

eppudu intha deep ga chadavaledu .. how did they establish Siva as Rudra .. nenu 1 or 2 articles by Swami Sivananda matrame chadiva ee issue meeda




naaku exact samhitha peru gurthu ledhu bro. basically the connection is established, by adressing Rudra(tryambaka), "I bow to Siva". and further the panchakashara was derived from Sri Rudram itself.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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okappudu kalahasthi was almost equal to kashi unde...ee vaishnavaites andaru kalisi maa devudiki anyayam sesaaru....
Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs
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Be frank ga cheptunnaa

anavasaram ee disco
Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT
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Divya Suri charitam nunchi article :

http://sites.google.com/site/jaisrimannaaraayana/dhivyasuri- caritam-1/bhagavantudini-manaku-venkatesvaruniga-manaku-andi ncindi-evaru


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Mental_sachinodu:

I am doubting whether you are serious now





Seriously annai ... ayana asalu ee uddeshyam tho ... asal em etymology telusukoni ilaanti statements istunnaro ardham avvatledu !! edo notikochhindi aneyyadame !!


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Sagar:

Venkatachala ..



Saptagiri proper name ani chadivinattu gurtu ..

Venkatachala is the given name after Venkateswara ..

more like Indrakeeladri in Vijayawada ..

Sagar:

enduku maaatlDavv ??



Kamal:

Venkateswara is Christ's incarnation annadu .. medalo .. cross inka venkateswara swami locket rendu unna chain choosi adigithe ..



Mental_sachinodu:

Shvetashvatara Upanishad varaku Rudra, Shiva okare ani undadhu, this is the first upanishad, that identifies both of them as one.



eppudu intha deep ga chadavaledu .. how did they establish Siva as Rudra .. nenu 1 or 2 articles by Swami Sivananda matrame chadiva ee issue meeda
Bharat Mata ki Jai :-)
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Sagar:

mari hills peru kooda Venkata ane ga... adhe enduku kaakoDadhu ?



bro,

naaku nee argument ardham kavatledhu. can you be more clear please.


Sagar:

SivuDu ardhanaaariswaruDu...... Sakthi antey sivuDu kaadhu anaTam ... thappu..





alage sri-nivasudu... Sri (Sakthi, female) nivaasam kaligina ?? evaru ??
Ganganu sirassulo kaligina .. ardanaareswaruDu ... Sakthi roopam kaaka inkenti ??}
bro,
I am doubting whether you are serious now, ardhanareeswarudu anedhi pure iconography, to illustrate the theory that shakti( the female principle) and the male principal shiva are not seperable. anthe kani rendu okate ani kaadhu.
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ee sari India vellinappudu ... KASI ki velthaanu.... motham full database tho vasta :-)
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Kamal:

Probably because .. he was the God who was known from the earliest times .. as Rudra in Rig Veda .




Probably.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad varaku Rudra, Shiva okare ani undadhu, this is the first upanishad, that identifies both of them as one.

There various concepts on lord Shivas forms. one is Astamurti.
Astamurti represents the eightfold appellations of Shiva in forms of Bhava as Existence, Sarva as the great Archer, Rudra as the giver of sorrow and sufferings, Pasupati as the Herdsman, Ugra as the Fearsome, Mahan, i.e. Mahadeva as the Supreme soul, Bhima as the Tremendous force, and Isana as the Directional ruler of the universe

Also in Bhagwad purana mentions that Brahma has give other names to Shiva apart from the ones regularly used in other upanishads
Manyu, Manu, Mahinasa, Mahan, Siva, Rtadhvaja, Ugrareta, Bhava, Kala, Vamadeva and Dhrtavrata. Many names from the Bhagavata Purana appear in the Astamurti ascription.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Lakshmi devi.. Vishnu moorthi padhala daggara vunTundhi.. adhe parvathi(sakthi) SivuDilo saga baagam ayyi vunTundhi :-)
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Kamal:

nenu Tirupati lo konda kinda oka converted christian tho matladithe ..




enduku maaatlDavv ??
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Kamal:

hills peru venkata enti? koncham clear ga cheppu ..




Venkatachala ..
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Kish:

Looks like Jains also claim that idol is their's!



nuvvemi tension padaku .. nenu Tirupati lo konda kinda oka converted christian tho matladithe .. Venkateswara is Christ's incarnation annadu .. medalo .. cross inka venkateswara swami locket rendu unna chain choosi adigithe ..

asalu Christianity lo avataraala concept ekkada nunchi vachinda? aina Hinduism pre-dates every other known religion on the planet kadaa ani tala baadukunna ..

emi chestaam .. ignorance is bliss ani saripettukovaali ..
Bharat Mata ki Jai :-)
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SivuDu ardhanaaariswaruDu...... Sakthi antey sivuDu kaadhu anaTam ... thappu..

alage sri-nivasudu... Sri (Sakthi, female) nivaasam kaligina ?? evaru ??
Ganganu sirassulo kaligina .. ardanaareswaruDu ... Sakthi roopam kaaka inkenti ??
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adhedho cinema lo sri laksmi devudi laminations ki harathi icchi icchi masi chesi adhi vinayakuda or murugan aa ani confuse avutha untadhi....aa tyfu anukuntunna....
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Sagar:

mari hills peru kooda Venkata ane ga... adhe enduku kaakoDadhu ?




hills peru venkata enti? koncham clear ga cheppu ..

btw .. undochu/kakudadu ane unsure terms use cheyyakunda .. deni gurinchi sure ga unnavo ade discuss cheyyochu ga ..
Bharat Mata ki Jai :-)
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Some interesting thoughts from Sulekha forum members

http://forums.sulekha.com/forums/coffeehouse/a-query-to-telu gus.htm

Looks like Jains also claim that idol is their's!
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ఈశ్వరుడు అంటే నియమించు వాడు అని అర్థం. దేనిని నియమించు వాడు? అంటే వేంకటమును నియమించువాడు అని అర్థం. వేంకటము అంటే ఏమి ? ఈ వెంకటేశ్వర అనే పదం ద్రవిడం మరియూ సంస్కృతం రెంటిలోంచి ఏర్పడింది. దీని అర్థం మనకు నమ్మాళ్వారు వివరించారు. 'వేంకడంగల్ మేయ్ మేల్ వినై ఉత్తమన్ తాంగల్ తంగర్కు నల్లనవే శేవాయ్ వేంగడ తురై వార్కు నమో వెన్నలాంకడమై అదిసుమందా అరర్కే' అని అంటారు. 'కటంగల్' అంటే ఋణములవలే మనం అనుభవిస్తే తప్ప తొలగని పాపములకి పేరు.


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Mental_sachinodu:




mari hills peru kooda Venkata ane ga... adhe enduku kaakoDadhu ?
already konthamandi tdp kurrol and bala fans oogutunnaru...so, db member ni kotte chance vundi... - LWA
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Sagar:

naanardhaalu baane teesukovacchu maama... akkada hills peru adhe ayyunDocchu...




nanardhalu ayina, that is how traditionally Venkateswara has been interpreted.
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Shivudi meedha unnantha ambiguity thrimurthullo evari meedha ledhu ankunta.



Probably because .. he was the God who was known from the earliest times .. as Rudra in Rig Veda ..
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Shakthi...(Shivude) ga srusTiki moolam...... ayina ye devuDiki vundhi eswarudu ani peru ??....

Venkata anedhi aa hills dwara vachcindhi peru... aa hills meedha koliveina... Eswarudu.. verasi VenkaTeswarudu ....

Srinivas is came from Sri-nivasamu.. ikkada Sri anedhi Sakthi ga teesukuntey... idhi Vishnumoorthy peru ela avuthaadhi ??

yekkadanna venkateswara temple antaaru kaani... Srinivasa Temple anaru.... Srinivasa annadhi pettina peru maatrame.. actual name Venkateswara ...




I have to disagee with you bro,
Shakti != Shiva.

Shakti anedhi usually female swaroopam, traditionally. Ofcourse, it depends on the school of thought. Shaivites, vishnavites, and Vedic literature have conflicting details about Shiva.

if you are comfortable to believe that Shaivites, Vishnavites both follow the traditions of using vedic sources, then the name Shiva means the pure One. Vedic Literature usually uses the name Rudra more often than Shiva.

Shivudi meedha unnantha ambiguity thrimurthullo evari meedha ledhu ankunta.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Kish:

I don't think so- Vem- Sin/Paapam, Kata- kandinchu/end cheyu

Vem + Kata - Venkata ante paapalanu harinche vaadu ani anukunta!




naanardhaalu baane teesukovacchu maama... akkada hills peru adhe ayyunDocchu...
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venkateswarudu.. is diff from vekatesudhu.. ganesudhu is diff ganeswarudu.. rest nee twisting




neeku ardham kaadani pamara basha cheppa ... Eshwardi vikruti eeshudu ... mundu telugu telusuko ... !!


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Nuvvu thittanu ante oka question adugutha annai- mana south India lo (not 100% sure about north India) ekkada Shivudini idol roopam lo poojincharu kada? I mean only Linga roopam lo poojisthaaru kada- so Venkateshwara Swamy Shivudu ayye chance ledemo!




Good question.... swayam ga velisina lingam kaadhu annai.. nuvvu anTTU lingam ayyi vunTey.. jyothirlingallo idhi oka temple ayyedhi...

idhi kaTTinchina temple :-)
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Sagar:

Venkata anedhi aa hills dwara vachcindhi peru



I don't think so- Vem- Sin/Paapam, Kata- kandinchu/end cheyu

Vem + Kata - Venkata ante paapalanu harinche vaadu ani anukunta!
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Venkateshedu




venkateswarudu.. is diff from vekatesudhu.. ganesudhu is diff ganeswarudu.. rest nee twisting :-)
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Advaitam ardham avvalsina vaallu unnaru ga chaala mande ..
Bharat Mata ki Jai :-)
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Mental_sachinodu:




Shakthi...(Shivude) ga srusTiki moolam...... ayina ye devuDiki vundhi eswarudu ani peru ??....

Venkata anedhi aa hills dwara vachcindhi peru... aa hills meedha koliveina... Eswarudu.. verasi VenkaTeswarudu ....

Srinivas is came from Sri-nivasamu.. ikkada Sri anedhi Sakthi ga teesukuntey... idhi Vishnumoorthy peru ela avuthaadhi ??

yekkadanna venkateswara temple antaaru kaani... Srinivasa Temple anaru.... Srinivasa annadhi pettina peru maatrame.. actual name Venkateswara ...
already konthamandi tdp kurrol and bala fans oogutunnaru...so, db member ni kotte chance vundi... - LWA
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Sagar:

ESWARUDU




eswarudu != shiva

eswar means god
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Sagar:

ela saami.. perulo... ESWARUDU vunnaD... ela anTaavv.. Vishnu murthy ani ??

VaikunTa Ekadasi Roju poojal chesinantha maatrana... Sivudini.. Vishnuvu ani ela anTaaav... ??




Eeshudu ante Raju/ adhitipati ani ardham ... Ganeshudu ... Ganmulaku adhipathi ...

Venkateshedu --- Parvatam meeda unna adhipati/ raju ani ardham ... !!

oorike teleekunda statements ivvadu saami !!


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Sagar:

paisall vuntey dhennanna kappeDathaar... anaTaaniki idhi nidharsanam



Nuvvu thittanu ante oka question adugutha annai- mana south India lo (not 100% sure about north India) ekkada Shivudini idol roopam lo poojincharu kada? I mean only Linga roopam lo poojisthaaru kada- so Venkateshwara Swamy Shivudu ayye chance ledemo!


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Sagar:

ela saami.. perulo... ESWARUDU vunnaD... ela anTaavv.. Vishnu murthy ani ??

VaikunTa Ekadasi Roju poojal chesinantha maatrana... Sivudini.. Vishnuvu ani ela anTaaav... ??




eeswarudu anedhi common term for lord, chala mandhi perlallo eswarudu ani vasthundhi.

venkateswara's name was Srinivasa, the name "venkateswara" is not a given name, it means the lord who destroy sin. it is more of a title.
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"The Idol of Lord Srinivasa in Tirumala was self-manifested. He wasnât carved by any sculptor, human or divine."

How did they determined that?
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ye devudayithe enti hindu devude kada.. inka controversy endhuko.
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paisall vuntey dhennanna kappeDathaar... anaTaaniki idhi nidharsanam
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Cocanada:


chaala saarlu clarify ayyindi....it is Vishnu temple........no doubts




ela saami.. perulo... ESWARUDU vunnaD... ela anTaavv.. Vishnu murthy ani ??

VaikunTa Ekadasi Roju poojal chesinantha maatrana... Sivudini.. Vishnuvu ani ela anTaaav... ??
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There is a controversy about the deity representing Shakti ( divine consort of Lord Shiva as well as Goddess representing female power) and Shiva as some rituals and traditions signify. The first three Alvars describe him as a combination of Vishnu and Shiva. Dr Medasani Mohan, director, Bhagavatha Project, TTD, attests to the idol having jatas (locks of hair) of Shiva and chiselled out bosom of Shakti when observed from close quarters during the prolonged Abhishekam Seva (holy bath) when the idol is undressed.But Bhattacharyulu contradicts this theory. Normally the lions atop the Vimanam (roof) are taken as proof of its being a Shakti temple. But he says they are mere guards as in Badrinath and other Vaishnavite shrines.
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naa chinnapatninchi vintunnaa

Sakti or Vishnu controversy

chaala saarlu clarify ayyindi....it is Vishnu temple........no doubts
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ramanuja cleared doubts ani ekkado chadiva....ramanuja oka sankhu chakram garbha gudilo petti talupulu vesaru anta ...tellari talupulu terisi chooste lord accept chesaru anta vatini
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venkatESWARUDU ....... inka perulone vundhi ga...

paisall vuntey.. nadini bommani chestaar... mana charitra kaarulu :-)
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Sorry indaaka wrong link icchaanu

Read this:

http://tirumalavaibhavam.blogspot.com/2009/05/controversy-ov er-lords-idol-in-tirumala.html
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Cocanada:

intakee controversy enti



Tirumala lo unna Venkateshwara Swamy idol shivudi vigraham ani Shaiviks, Vishnuvu vigraham ani vaishnavites, Buddhudi vigraham ani buddhists, Amma vaari vigraham ani kontha mandi kottukuntunnaaru anta!


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no controversy no controverysy
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intakee controversy enti
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Shaiviks (followers of Lord Siva) worshipped the deity as Lord Siva, Vaishnaviks (followers of Lord Vishnu) worshipped the deity as Lord Maha Vishnu and a few north Indians worshipped the deity as shakti or Balaji (an incarnation of Goddess Durga) and the Buddhists worshipped as Gautham Buddha for many years.


Every one had their own reasons. Shaiviks claimed that the Lordâs Idol has flowing locks of hair like jatajut of Lord Maha Siva with curly hair resting on his shoulders. The arms have armlets which look like Nagaabharanam and a serpent is depicted as coiled around Lordâs right arm. More over plants of bilva leaves were found near the deity. All these are normally associated with Lord Siva. Another interesting aspect is the Lord is in the middle of garbha gruha (sanctum sanctorum) which is the case with the temples of Lord Siva. We usually find the establishment of Siva Lingas in the middle of the sanctum sanctorum where as, the Lord Vishnuâs Idol is established near the inner wall of this sanctum sanctorum.


On the other hand, the Vaishnaviks claimed many puranas provided reference of Lord Maha Vishnuâs Avatar in Kaliyuga to be presided in the hills of Venkatachala. The serpent as nagaabharana on the lordâs arm is none other than his ardent devotee Adi Sesha, the Serpent God. Since Goddess Lakshmi resides in the bilva patras, its obvious to find bilva plants near the Lord.


Those who were worshipping as Goddess Shakti, had their own reasons. The devotees called the Lord as Sri Balaji as being the name of Durga Maa or Goddess Shakti. If observed keenly, we can see the lions on all four sides of the temple. Lion is the vahan or vehicle of Goddess Durga Maa. Sandal paste used during the Lordâs worship further strengthens the argument that Lord is Shakti Swaroop. In Tirumala Lordâs Abhishekam is done on Friday which happens to be an auspicious day for mangal snan or holy bath for women.


Where as, the Vaishnaviks brushed aside all these arguments saying that they do not find any such name called Balaji in temple inscriptions. More over, they cited that the Friday Abhishekam is done to Maha Lakshmi who resides in the heart of the Lord. Since Maha Lakshmiâs image is an integral part of the Lordâs Idol, the abhishekam is performed to the whole Idol.

Many Buddhists claimed the Idol of the deity belonged to Gautham Buddha because of the kind of appearance it has and the posture it stands in closely associates to Buddha. Where as, Vaishnaviks brushed aside their claims saying that they do not see any such resemblances in the Idol. More over no Buddhist manuscripts were found in the temple regarding their claims.


In fact, there used to be frequent tussle among the devotees and sometimes no puja was performed to the Lordâs Idol. The tussle between the Shaiviks and Vaishnaviks were and more frequent and sometimes lead to serious consequences in those days.
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Meeku evarikaina idea undha?

http://tirumalavaibhavam.blogspot.com/2009/05/history-of-tir umala-venkateswara-temple.html
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