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     Frodo Junior Artist Username: Frodo Post Number: 565 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 115.117.229.197 Rating: N/A |
film fan @ 11:25 I agree short ball is a concern for team India, but that has not been a new strategy, it has been there since moses parted the red sea (obviously i mean since India started playing cricket). Every generation of Indian cricket (and sub-continental teams in general) have to deal with this achilles's heel in their own way. As I mentioned every team is susceptible to the short ball, as england has proven by beating 2 powerhouses when it comes to the short ball - SA and aus, in very convincing fashion. The memo to the england bowlers was to bowl back of length and to vary pace and they executed it the best among all teams. Anyway, my point is that it is not the short-ball that did India in this time. I think, raina, gambhir, yuvi, dhoni and rohit have enough skills to counter the short-pitched stuff, but gambhir was just not keyed-in (have no idea why - did the ipl drain him out?) and yuvi - god, i hate to say this, but he is fat. just totally uncool if you are an athlete..... look at the aussies, saf and even the english -hussey is 34 and he is like a gazelle on the field and between the wickets. warner is built like a tank..... smith is a bull. kallis has definitely shed atleast 10-15 pounds and there is a definite spike in his foot-work. KP is a beast! colly is well colly - total workman like. I think only dhoni in our team can stand beside these guys and not be embarrassed. i like your point about players needing to score off the short-ball, and not remaining passive. but i dont think richards is the man, who can teach technique. Kirsten was quite good against the short-ball and he is definitely a guy, who can coach better than richards, especially the indian team. Richards is high on ego and aggression, much like greg chappel, and he was a much inferior team-man compared to kirsten. Another point is, for most countries t-20 world cup is the big prize. for indian players ipl is where the loyalties are at. You cant blame them, ipl gives them much more money compared to the t-20 world cup. not to mention, who really plays 2 world cups in less than a year. The ICC needs to have the t-20 world cup every 4 yrs and alternate it with the 50over world cup like soccer does euro and world cup. IPL is just huge in india. My mom, whose only forays into cricket after kapil dev retired, revolved around SRT, is a keen DC supporter - she is a big fan of gilchrist. I actually bought a DC jersey for her for mother's day ( i know it is lame  but she loved it  ) You cant fault the players - t-20 world cup's stock is pebbles, compared to the IPL gold.I want to die, peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather, not screaming and shouting like his passengers | ||
| Sashasaurav Side Hero Username: Sashasaurav Post Number: 4089 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.155.64.230 Rating: N/A |
I meant both the matches are played in Barbados but aus vs Eng is totally a different game | ||
| Sashasaurav Side Hero Username: Sashasaurav Post Number: 4088 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.155.64.230 Rating: N/A |
I agree here with u partially .... Dont let ourselves compare with Srilanka/WI and feel happy .... Aus Vs Eng is totally a different game .. where the pitch is in Barbados .. In Barbados we were freaking 70/6 ... only because of rohit's innings we got a face showing defeat.. Indian selectors brought in Dravid to stabilize the middle order last year because none of the top order were playing short balls ..Again what happened is what we have seen this year ... Yes completely agreed that our bowling unit is crap .. that is the reason we went with 8 batsmen .. and if u agree Harbhajan to be batsmen .. total 9 batsmen...because we should cover our weakness with our strength ... And i completely disagree with u on Richards because richards wants to coach indian batsmen on playing short balls ...which ever era the cricket is played playing a short ball is a technique ...that indian team lacks ... Look at the older bunch of players .. sachin & dravid .. They dont have their stance completely as the younger players do ... Younger players tend balance more on their front foot while the former balance equally on both legs .. To play a short ball the weight transformation needs to be spot on .. With the technique younger players have where they have their balance on front foot it is harder for them to get to backfoot instantly for a short ball ... I am quoting an example here which may be raise a separate debate ..but this is what i felt .. Saurav Ganguly is a player who does not know how to pull and hook .. he was a dead duck when playing the short balls .. he changed his technique and was a lot better in the later stages .. though he wasnt fluent in playing short balls .. he can manage ..by changing his stance at crease .. If you look at early days of Saurav ganguly he used to have the same technique of having the weight on front foot .. but by slight changing his stance by spreading out the legs and also having right foot slight moved away which was earlier in parallel with Left foot .. he Manged it ... Again i am not saying he was Fluent but still he managed it | ||
| Nanigadu Side Hero Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 4911 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 204.92.92.4 Rating: N/A |
veediki noti doola ekkuva, koncham endu gaddi vuntey veyyandi namulutha voka moolana paduntadu When you point a fingre at some body remember that there are three fingers pointing at you and one finger pointing at God | ||
| Film_fan Hero Username: Film_fan Post Number: 12101 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
India's 2007 WT20 win was a fluke: Bedi..vidiki chance dorkindi edavataniki -- BEdi..gaadu worst fellow.... India ki paniki vacchey statements kantey......setta lines ye ekkuva septhaadu..... A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila. -- Mitch Radcliffe | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 9642 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.171.233.76 Rating: N/A |
Richards emi coaching chestadu..cap pettukoni gum namulkontu aadandi antadu..akkada helmet pettukontene shake shakeela..inka cap pettukonte...kiki | ||
| Bhikhu Side Hero Username: Bhikhu Post Number: 6351 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 148.129.129.154 Rating: N/A |
India's 2007 WT20 win was a fluke: Bedi..vidiki chance dorkindi edavataniki | ||
| Film_fan Hero Username: Film_fan Post Number: 12097 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
Frodo....I agree that fitness is more a concern... but lack of ability against short bowling is not just in this tourney.....just 9 months back England lo kooda....teams used it against us..... fitness....top priority.... ability to hook or pull or for that matter....not to get out....atleast is a skill that needs to be learned.... one thing i agree with u is that, yester year cricketers played long format of the game and they didnt necessarily need to score of a bouncer.....know how to avoid it and play the next ball.... demands of shorter version game is that you cannot afford to give too many dots.....so.....that's a major change from 2 decades ago..... A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila. -- Mitch Radcliffe | ||
| Stalwart Side Hero Username: Stalwart Post Number: 2452 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 122.167.1.134 Rating: N/A |
Nenu koodaa cut and paste ane anukunnaa chadhuvuthoo velthunte thelsindhi idhi oka knowledge bank nundi release ayinaddhani....1st five star manadhe...
 SPOT ON....Fully agree with you.....
I think he was giving coaching for the sultan of Bruneis son sometime back....idhedho eamcet coaching or some other subject coaching laaga oka manishiki dheniki coaching annadhi naaku intha varak artham kaaledhu.... FACTS about Nizam #1: No Rajamouli previous movies crossed 6 crores in Nizam, but many Mega Movies crossed 6 crores in Nizam. So, aa 6 crores daatinchina capacity evariki undi?? FACTS about Nizam #2: Both Boyapati movies Tulasi and Bhadra crossed 6 crores in Nizam, but no N Movie crossed 6 crores in Nizam. So, aa 6 crores daatinche capacity evariki undi (Having said that Simha wont cross 6 crores)-- KADAPA FAN | ||
| Nanigadu Side Hero Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 4909 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 204.92.92.4 Rating: N/A |
meeru rasara @564... chala baga rasaru babai, nenu edo article cut and paste chesaru anukunna... good job bro When you point a fingre at some body remember that there are three fingers pointing at you and one finger pointing at God | ||
| Jalsa Moderator Username: Jalsa Post Number: 13001 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
As Frodo said, more than our batsmen, we need to train and imbibe discipline our bowlers. Player la fitness is bad. Sehwag enni yearss ayindhi team lo ki vachi, he's still like that. Yuvi ee madhya put on lot of weight. Rohit gaadu very lazy anipisthundhi, atleast running b/w wickets. | ||
| Bhikhu Side Hero Username: Bhikhu Post Number: 6348 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 148.129.129.154 Rating: N/A |
richards evi sestadu babai..players atitude marali..T20 WC ni board ae picha lite tiskuni..no training..no practice matches..India could have done well inspite of this had they picked the right side and right batting order..dhoni gadiki as a keeper some days rest ichi..karthik or rajastan keeper nama oojha ni dimpali | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 7463 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14 Rating: N/A |
@Frodo well put bro agree with you 100% | ||
| Frodo Junior Artist Username: Frodo Post Number: 564 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 115.117.239.161 Rating: |
Richards is a great batsman, but he himself needed to see a shrink when thommo and lillee harassed him in australia with pace. I think criticism of india's limitations against short-pitched bowling are a little over the top. australia bowled srilanka for 87 and WI for 109. India managed more than both. and remember WI played aus at st. lucia. India would have definitely put up 160 on board against aus, if they got to play them at st.lucia. Another thing to remember is the general technique of batsmen against shortball is iffy. look at australia against england. they were for 8/3 and managed about the same score that india managed against aus! It is not about short-pitched bowling really. It is just disciplined and accurate bowlers executing their plans on a helpful pitch. Indian bowlers messed up. aussie and english bowlers did not. result = aus makes 180 against us. we make 130 odd against them and aussies make 148 against england. while we are at it, a good clinical bowler like mcgrath would have had richards in all sorts of trouble. i think gary kirsten is a much better coach than richards will ever be. Richards' analysis and reading of the game is very delusional and totally out of touch with the professional standards of the game. the game has taken off by leaps since richards played. even a totally psycho batsman like sehwag has to do tonnes of homework before he steps on to the field. India's main problem is lack of fitness - yuvi is, just by talent alone, the best finisher in the game and a totally brilliant fielder, but looking at him these days, you feel like he is atleast 15-20lbs over-weight. it is a total no-no, if you want to bring out the best in urself as an athlete. people look at hussey's last over destruction, but look at what he did in the 2nd last over - he ran 5 2s. You read that right. 5 freaking 2s. aamer was spot on and hussey kept australia alive with his fitness and grit alone. that still doesn't mean he had easy job in the last over, but he and australia had their work simplified. a lot of indian players can learn so much from hussey. and india's bowling and fielding were pathetic. gambhir, murali vijay and yusuf pathan and yuvraj became too much miss and no hit at all. dhoni, raina and rohit had to literally double up. I want to die, peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather, not screaming and shouting like his passengers | ||
| Film_fan Hero Username: Film_fan Post Number: 12094 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
King is ready to help us.... over to BCCI.....to ignore this as usual..... A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila. -- Mitch Radcliffe |
