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vallaki emi kavalo, vallani adigi, decide chesi iccheyandi.

but idendhi, istam vacchi nattu rules intrepet chestharu...kuyy kuyy mani




ardham kaledhu masteru..
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Mental_sachinodu:

ichedham ayithe..




vallaki emi kavalo, vallani adigi, decide chesi iccheyandi.

but idendhi, istam vacchi nattu rules intrepet chestharu...kuyy kuyy mani
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Hail_the_labour:

its not about 4 wisves. either Follow THIS or follow THAT anthe.

sukam ki okati, kastam ki okati aa... ke ke




haha muslims kooda sharia law kavali anukune vaalu saana mandhe unnaru.. ichedham ayithe..
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Mental_sachinodu:

turakalloki 4 wives



its not about 4 wisves. either Follow THIS or follow THAT anthe.

sukam ki okati, kastam ki okati aa... ke ke
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annai ,

Muxddilo petti eFF chesthe, sodomy.

Drink,smoke chesthe, inkaaa ADULTERATION(akkum-bakkum) , dongatanam, etc chesthe

severe punishments untai... someinclude stoning and death, death sentence etc..

kiki... avi kooda unnai BOOK lo, mari aa BOOK lovi implement cheyyaraa.!!!?

4 P's tho Night P()()kata aadataniki... ekkada ninchi osthai.. relaxing RULES

JAI HO JAI Ho.... He He He...




nanneti seyamantav annai, rules ettindhi nenu kaadhu kadha, im just clarigying the rules here.

turakalloki 4 wives naaku ishtam ledhu, kaani nenu eti peeka lenu..
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Parthasaradhi:

OkaHyd annai inspiration tho..



His knowledge is marvelous !

Thx for the wishes .. need loads of luck !
Bharat Mata ki Jai :-)
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annai ,

Muxddilo petti eFF chesthe, sodomy.

Drink,smoke chesthe, inkaaa ADULTERATION(akkum-bakkum) , dongatanam, etc chesthe

severe punishments untai... someinclude stoning and death, death sentence etc..

kiki... avi kooda unnai BOOK lo, mari aa BOOK lovi implement cheyyaraa.!!!?

4 P's tho Night P()()kata aadataniki... ekkada ninchi osthai.. relaxing RULES

JAI HO JAI Ho.... He He He...
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Kamal:

anna .. ela unnaru .. ? monna aa madhya mee posts evo choosa .. I think .. Mahabharatam meeda .. simply awesome ..




I am good bro. Mahabharatam.. college days lo interest meeda chadivaanu. edo gurthu unnantha varaku post chestu untaa. :-). OkaHyd annai inspiration tho..

Good luck in your job search, bro.
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Hail_the_labour:

anna simple q. IF THEY GET MARRIED UNDER sharia with 4 wives,




annai,

they do not get married under muslim marriage act, not sharia. Muslim marriage act has adopted some of the marriage related tenets from Quran(which again is different from sharia).


Hail_the_labour:


why they follow normal civil code for criminal things. can they be allowed under sharia law.

ki..ki... enjoys ki sharia, punishments cover ki normal.. kikiki



yes, in a way it is sad, but again only marriage acts were taken from respective religions, migatha acts anniti lo religion ki importance ichinattu leru mana constitution lo...
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anna simple q. IF THEY GET MARRIED UNDER sharia with 4 wives,

why they follow normal civil code for criminal things. can they be allowed under sharia law.

ki..ki... enjoys ki sharia, punishments cover ki normal.. kikiki
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anna .. ela unnaru .. ? monna aa madhya mee posts evo choosa .. I think .. Mahabharatam meeda .. simply awesome ..
Bharat Mata ki Jai :-)
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Vjavasi:

history lo anni daballu tinna mithrulu evaro shatruvulu evaro grahinchaleka povatam.....mana jaatiki migilina aakari mukka kooda etla kapdukovalo teliyakapovatam....demographics entha important to telusukopovatam....charitraka sprha lekapovatam...paiki entha sookthi mukhtavali cheppina at the end it's crude number game bro...ippatidaka modern,rational ani prapanchaniki kaburlu cheppina europe,west ippudu emi chestundo chhodu bro.....we have to vehemently protect our civilizational interests no matter what anedhi nenu indian history and world history nunchi nerchukunna lesson bro




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Vjavasi:

simple brother....history lo anni daballu tinna mithrulu evaro shatruvulu evaro grahinchaleka povatam.....mana jaatiki migilina aakari mukka kooda etla kapdukovalo teliyakapovatam....demographics entha important to telusukopovatam....charitraka sprha lekapovatam...paiki entha sookthi mukhtavali cheppina at the end it's crude number game bro...ippatidaka modern,rational ani prapanchaniki kaburlu cheppina europe,west ippudu emi chestundo chhodu bro.....we have to vehemently protect our civilizational interests no matter what anedhi nenu indian history and world history nunchi nerchukunna lesson bro




that was a good one bro, however i believe it in a different way, I feel such things should be at a more personal level. I feel there is a need to protect our own culture, from outward and inward issues, but i do no think, the GOI or for that matter of fact any politcal party need to take up the cause of Hindus. Hindus should make themselves vigilant and knowledgeable, i commend RSS for that.



Kamal:

ade antunna .. mari Hindu marriage act ki .. endulo nunchi teesukuntaru? since we do not have 1 single book? mari alanti situation lo Hindus ki laws/Muslims/Christians ki different/single laws cheyyadam lo edanna disparity ki chance unda? light veyyandi? single law cheyyalante .. ela undali? away from Quran/Bible aa? leka total ga vaatiki confirm avvala?




Bro,
when the thread started many of them did not know much about the marriage acts, and i thought they were getting the wrong idea on how the court reacted to the case, so i was trying to put some information for the sake of clarity towards the way court treats such cases.

As far as I know, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Parsi's are the only one's who have their own marriage act, and everyone else falls under Hindu marriage act.
if you ask me about how i envision a uniform marriage code, i would prefer it something which does not cater to any of these religions, and more towards our current special marriages act.

Now I do not know the historic reasons behind adding special provisions of marriages based on religion into our constitution, may be it served some immediate purpose, but i do not see a reason for us to continue with it. ofcourse, with precedents set by congress, i dont think anything will change in our country for the rest of our life times.
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Vjavasi:

simple brother....history lo anni daballu tinna mithrulu evaro shatruvulu evaro grahinchaleka povatam.....mana jaatiki migilina aakari mukka kooda etla kapdukovalo teliyakapovatam....demographics entha important to telusukopovatam....charitraka sprha lekapovatam...paiki entha sookthi mukhtavali cheppina at the end it's crude number game bro...ippatidaka modern,rational ani prapanchaniki kaburlu cheppina europe,west ippudu emi chestundo chhodu bro.....we have to vehemently protect our civilizational interests no matter what anedhi nenu indian history and world history nunchi nerchukunna lesson bro



perfect .. read more .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Civilizations

Mental_sachinodu:

ok bro, you can carry on liberals, neither do I go with liberals, nor conservatives, i have my own set of principles and i live by them.


sorry .. adi ninnu analedu bro .. it was more of a generalised statement anthe .. nee gurinchi kaadu .. liberals/conservatives madhya lo nenekkada padataano naaku ardam kaavatledu ..

Mental_sachinodu:

court has used one of these clauses in this case. when a woman approaches the indian court, Muslim marriage acts uses these clauses which are taken from the quran to judge whether the marriage is legal.



ade antunna .. mari Hindu marriage act ki .. endulo nunchi teesukuntaru? since we do not have 1 single book? mari alanti situation lo Hindus ki laws/Muslims/Christians ki different/single laws cheyyadam lo edanna disparity ki chance unda? light veyyandi? single law cheyyalante .. ela undali? away from Quran/Bible aa? leka total ga vaatiki confirm avvala?

Indiarocks:

aa panchadu....central cabinet minister level unna CMP nundi resign chesi, money panchi, oka MLA gaa settle ayyaru JP



are .. gussa jeyyakanna .. ee weekend okari tho matladunde .. aayana jeppindu .. money panchinru .. pakka ga panchinru ani .. nenu just vini gammuna unna anthe .. he said he even has proofs and all ani .. ofcourse ade vedam ani nenemi cheppatledu anuko .. so .. adanna maata vishayam ..
Bharat Mata ki Jai :-)
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Kamal:

18 vachayoo .. raledoo teliyani pori .. parents wishes ki against ga evadino choose chesukune atmosphere ni support chese vaallani ani .. (loose ga liberals ani .. )




ok bro, you can carry on liberals, neither do I go with liberals, nor conservatives, i have my own set of principles and i live by them.


Kamal:

ade ela cheptundi court? Ramudu eka patni vratudu .. anduku multiple wives tappu ani cheptunda? leka inkedanna cheptunda? vinaalani undi ..




According to Muslim marriage act , they have to follow the marriage tenets of Quran to be bound by marriage and that is our law. whether you can take it or not that is the fact. According to Hindu Marriage act, a man/woman cannot have another legal marriage. and if you think these laws are not proper, constitution has given you the rights to fight for it.


Muslim Marriage Act - following the rules of Quran, here are the clauses that can make marriage void

# Not heard for 4 years.
# Failure to provide maintenance for two years.
# Husband sentenced for 7 years imprisonment or upwards.
# Failure to platform martial obligations for three years.
# Impotency at the time of marriage and continuation.
# Insanity for two years or suffering from leprosy or a virulent venereal disease.
# Marriage before attaining age of 15 years and repudiation before attaining the age of 18 years.
# Cruelty in the form of habitually assaulting, associating with women of evil repute, force to lead an immoral life, interfering into the wife’s property, obstruction to observe her religious practice, not equally treating with other wives etc.,

court has used one of these clauses in this case. when a woman approaches the indian court, Muslim marriage acts uses these clauses which are taken from the quran to judge whether the marriage is legal.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Kamal:

Btw .. adagatam marchipoya .. JP Kukatpalli lo emanna money panchaara? oorike telusukundaam ani adugutunna ..




aa panchadu....central cabinet minister level unna CMP nundi resign chesi, money panchi, oka MLA gaa settle ayyaru JP
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Mental_sachinodu:

dheeni konchem elaborate cheyyandi bro. I mean, what did we not learn from history, and what did some guys(who ever has learned from history) learn?





simple brother....history lo anni daballu tinna mithrulu evaro shatruvulu evaro grahinchaleka povatam.....mana jaatiki migilina aakari mukka kooda etla kapdukovalo teliyakapovatam....demographics entha important to telusukopovatam....charitraka sprha lekapovatam...paiki entha sookthi mukhtavali cheppina at the end it's crude number game bro...ippatidaka modern,rational ani prapanchaniki kaburlu cheppina europe,west ippudu emi chestundo chhodu bro.....we have to vehemently protect our civilizational interests no matter what anedhi nenu indian history and world history nunchi nerchukunna lesson bro
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Indiarocks:

religion, money etc ni use chesukunte enni seats vaste em labham. Isn't that what the Cong has been doing?




Btw .. adagatam marchipoya .. JP Kukatpalli lo emanna money panchaara? oorike telusukundaam ani adugutunna ..
Bharat Mata ki Jai :-)
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Mental_sachinodu:

ee statement ento ardham kaale...



18 vachayoo .. raledoo teliyani pori .. parents wishes ki against ga evadino choose chesukune atmosphere ni support chese vaallani ani .. (loose ga liberals ani .. )

Mental_sachinodu:

talak talak ani court cheppa mandha, idhekkada undhi .. court just does not recognize that marriage ani cheppindhi and it is true. I can assure you there are Hindus who have multiple wives, and if they go to the court of law, the response would be the same.



ade ela cheptundi court? Ramudu eka patni vratudu .. anduku multiple wives tappu ani cheptunda? leka inkedanna cheptunda? vinaalani undi ..
Bharat Mata ki Jai :-)
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Vjavasi:

some people can't learn from history...




dheeni konchem elaborate cheyyandi bro. I mean, what did we not learn from history, and what did some guys(who ever has learned from history) learn?
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Kamal:

btw .. Hindus lo Khushboo Jaiswal followers .. mee paristhithi .




ee statement ento ardham kaale...

talak talak ani court cheppa mandha, idhekkada undhi .. court just does not recognize that marriage ani cheppindhi and it is true. I can assure you there are Hindus who have multiple wives, and if they go to the court of law, the response would be the same.

neways thread vere routes theesukundhi...
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Indiarocks:

ya..alage cheddam. Sati ni, child marriage ni, dowry ni legalize cheddamu. Aren't they part of our history, and culture?



bad ni vadilesi good tho munduku podham:-)
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Kamal:

vaddu le .. sunti, shariat and crusades ni legalize chesukundaam .. enthaina Macaulay's children kadaa ..




I am not the one supporting civil codes based on religions here...
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Indiarocks:

ya..alage cheddam. Sati ni, child marriage ni, dowry ni legalize cheddamu. Aren't they part of our history, and culture?



vaddu le .. sunti, shariat and crusades ni legalize chesukundaam .. enthaina Macaulay's children kadaa ..
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endukante govt should represent and reflect ethos of the land and its culture..nijamaina hindu code pedithe inka super




ya..alage cheddam. Sati ni, child marriage ni, dowry ni legalize cheddamu. Aren't they part of our history, and culture?
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job search ela undi..calls vasthunaya??



not really .. koddiga dull ga undi .. last 2 weeks .. have to see how it goes ..

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ya ya .. pajama Indian dress kaadu le ..
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endukante govt should represent and reflect ethos of the land and its culture.




culture of the land aa? kurti pyjama origins gurinchi kamal ni adagandi
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Rujjai .. rocking as always .. nuvvela unnav?



nen baavuna..job search ela undi..calls vasthunaya??
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kamalaiii..ela unnav..



Rujjai .. rocking as always .. nuvvela unnav?
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Thx bro ..

Indiarocks:

India is a secular state. Not a religious state like Pakistan. Ofcourse some ppl live in the past. Asalu evari side aina sympathies enduku choopinchali? What is the point of talking about a uniform civil code then?



Phir se ..
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kamalaiii..ela unnav..
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Ofcourse some ppl live in the past.





some people can't learn from history...


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Asalu evari side aina sympathies enduku choopinchali? What is the point of talking about a uniform civil code then?




endukante govt should represent and reflect ethos of the land and its culture..nijamaina hindu code pedithe inka super
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Software Validation ani .. Pharma lo ..




Oh ok...all the best..
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Software Validation ani .. Pharma lo ..
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congress wrong side sympathies choopistundi votes kosam...hindu desham lo hindus gurunchi kakapothe inka evari gurunchi matladaali?




India is a secular state. Not a religious state like Pakistan. Ofcourse some ppl live in the past. Asalu evari side aina sympathies enduku choopinchali? What is the point of talking about a uniform civil code then?
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project search lo unna tamud .. spending time differently these days .. anthe ..




oh ok...nuvvu ee technology annai..
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project search lo unna tamud .. spending time differently these days .. anthe ..
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religion, money etc ni use chesukunte enni seats vaste em labham. Isn't that what the Cong has been doing?





congress wrong side sympathies choopistundi votes kosam...hindu desham lo hindus gurunchi kakapothe inka evari gurunchi matladaali?
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Nuvvu only elanti threads lone posts vestava ...lol

chaala tagginchav DB...enti vishesham...
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Indiarocks:

mastaru prapancham lo meeru okkare telivaina vaara? . The issue was blown out of proportion by the media, however it was uncalled for on the part of Advani to make such a statement.



nenu telivaina vaadini ani nenekkadaina proclaim chesana? coming to Advani telling that about Jinnah .. Advani toured Pak .. he visited Jinnahs mausoleum and in its guest book wrote that he admires the idea of Jinnah in giving the speech to the "constituent assembly" which is full of secularism ..

media emi chesindi anedi pakkana pedithe .. first Jinnah speech emi ichadu .. daani meeda Advani emi annadu anedi telusukuni discussions lo points teesukondi .. I am sure you would have a different thing to write ..

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religion, money etc ni use chesukunte enni seats vaste em labham. Isn't that what the Cong has been doing?



LOL .. yeah .. Cong chesinatte chestondi kada ..

Sri_anji:



Thanks bhayya ! wats up?
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absolute ga cheppadu .. so check back and come .. appudu LOL anachu .. asalu Jinnah speech gurinchi ekkada mention chesado aina telusa? leka just like that media lo edo vachindi kabatti ade nijama?




mastaru prapancham lo meeru okkare telivaina vaara? . The issue was blown out of proportion by the media, however it was uncalled for on the part of Advani to make such a statement.

Kamal:

thats fine .. 120 seats geliche antha mandi prajalu different anukuntunnaru .. something unheard off in history !!!




religion, money etc ni use chesukunte enni seats vaste em labham. Isn't that what the Cong has been doing?
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Welcome Back!
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Indiarocks:

Jinnah speech ni pogidithe adi Jinnah ni pogidinattu kaada? Oh, ante idigo admiration for Jinnah is limited to this particular speech only ani cheppada? LOL



absolute ga cheppadu .. so check back and come .. appudu LOL anachu .. asalu Jinnah speech gurinchi ekkada mention chesado aina telusa? leka just like that media lo edo vachindi kabatti ade nijama?

Indiarocks:

yes ppl know that. anduke only some still think them to be different from Cong.



thats fine .. 120 seats geliche antha mandi prajalu different anukuntunnaru .. something unheard off in history !!!
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Ram Mandir, Hindutva gurinchi elections munde matladataaru anedi baseless .. people know that ..




yes ppl know that. anduke only some still think them to be different from Cong.

Kamal:

haha .. Jinnah ni pogidada? leka Jinnah chesina oka particular speech na? no problem .. try another spin !




Jinnah speech ni pogidithe adi Jinnah ni pogidinattu kaada? Oh, ante idigo admiration for Jinnah is limited to this particular speech only ani cheppada? LOL
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Gandhi kooda elections mundu gurthu vachinappudu ram mandir, hindutva ani, taruvatha Pakistan velli Jinnah ni pogidi vasthe alage anevadini. LOL



haha .. Jinnah ni pogidada? leka Jinnah chesina oka particular speech na? no problem .. try another spin !

Ram Mandir, Hindutva gurinchi elections munde matladataaru anedi baseless .. people know that ..
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sare aithe .. mahatma avvadaniki gandhi independence ni right time lo issue ni use chesukunnadu .. martin luther king kooda alage "use" chesukunnada?




Gandhi kooda elections mundu gurthu vachinappudu ram mandir, hindutva ani, taruvatha Pakistan velli Jinnah ni pogidi vasthe alage anevadini. LOL
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oka issue ni support cheyadaniki, movement laa cheyadaniki theda leda?



teda ledu in my opinion .. except that the efforts and importance have grown .. when its a movement .. but the truth is both stands are positive affirmation on the respective subject ..

Indiarocks:

I repeat, being with Hindu nationalists, supporting a hindu nationalist agenda ni Rama Janma bhoomi movement ni mix up chestunnaru. Advani before 86 Rama Janma bhoomi movement gurinhchi special ga chesindi em ledu. Late 80's lo right time lo issue ni use chesukunnadu.



sare aithe .. mahatma avvadaniki gandhi independence ni right time lo issue ni use chesukunnadu .. martin luther king kooda alage "use" chesukunnada?
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meeku chaala telusu mastaru .. Morarji govt enduku padipoyindo .. koncham dig cheyyandi .. ee issue ento .. meeke telustundi .. Jan Sangh, which Advani belonged to, always supported Ram Janma Bhoomi as well .. BJP too supported it since 1980 (its formation) .. oka movement laaga take up chesindi .. after 1986 ..




oka issue ni support cheyadaniki, movement laa cheyadaniki theda leda?

Kamal:

but VHP would have made Rajiv do that even otherwise .




this is pure speculation.

Kamal:

Morarji govt enduku padipoyindo .. koncham dig cheyyandi .. ee issue ento .. meeke telustundi .. Jan Sangh, which Advani belonged to, always supported Ram Janma Bhoomi as well .. BJP too supported it since 1980 (its formation) .. oka movement laaga take up chesindi .. after 1986 ..




I repeat, being with Hindu nationalists, supporting a hindu nationalist agenda ni Rama Janma bhoomi movement ni mix up chestunnaru. Advani before 86 Rama Janma bhoomi movement gurinhchi special ga chesindi em ledu. Late 80's lo right time lo issue ni use chesukunnadu.
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BJP ni VHP pattukuni veladatla, BJP ye VHP ni pattukuni veladuthondi.



VHP veladutondi ani nenekkada cheppanu .. both are happy with their relation ani cheptunna .. !

Indiarocks:

kinda Shah Bano case ki deeniki relation enti ani adigedi meere. Malli Shah Bano case tho oppukoka thappleda? Asalu VHP movement ni choosi Rajeev oppukunnadu anukunte anthakanna foolishness ledu. Rajeev opened the temple doors purely for his political reasons. Shah Bano case lo outright gaa mus..ms ni appease chesadu. Adi hindus daggara cover up chesukodaniki ee issue pattukunnadu. country motham demand undi oppukoka thappaleda?



Let me try it once again now .. Shah Bano case unna lekapoyina .. Ram Janma Bhoomi was something that had a huge support .. now .. Shah Bano case lo chesina tappu ki vachina criticism mostly oka set of ideologues nunchi vachindi .. same set of people ki unna concern is Ram Janma Bhoomi .. so appatikappudu temple talupulu open chesaru .. oka vela Shah Bano case lekapoyina .. 1986 ke movement peak ki reach avutondi .. and probably next 2-3 years lo same action teesukunevaaru .. if u know .. Rajiv was compelled to start his 1989 election campaign from Ayodhya !!!

ika Rajiv political reasons ke oppukunnadu .. no doubt .. but VHP would have made Rajiv do that even otherwise .. adi naa point .. ika country mottam demand undo ledo mee intlo peddalani adigithe telustundi .. Ram Janma Bhoomi movement was the largest movement in India's history, next to Quit India movement .. I hope you got it now .. renowned historians ee raasaru adi ..

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1910 nundi movement unte, Advani ki 1986 taruvatha mathrame gurtochinda rama janma bhoomi? He was a central minister as early as 1977. Thana own Govt. tho okka sari anna matladada ee issue meeda? Maaku emi teliyadu mastaru.



meeku chaala telusu mastaru .. Morarji govt enduku padipoyindo .. koncham dig cheyyandi .. ee issue ento .. meeke telustundi .. Jan Sangh, which Advani belonged to, always supported Ram Janma Bhoomi as well .. BJP too supported it since 1980 (its formation) .. oka movement laaga take up chesindi .. after 1986 ..

Indiarocks:

Aa mathram VHP vallu cheyalera?


haha .. aa matram cheyyaleru ani nenu ekkada annanu? but 1999 lo govt form chesaka .. legal ga ee issue ni solve cheyyadaniki max support icharu (ofcourse, it could have been better too!) .. but courts lo push cheyyali ante govt ki aa strength undali ga .. to appoint "their" people in judiciary .. so tappadu .. ila late avutayi .. ika 1910 nunchi ilage enduku undo kooda aalochisthe .. meeke ardam avutundi .. was that adhering to "secular" principles or not .. anedi
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Shah Bano case tho .. oppukoka tappaledu




kinda Shah Bano case ki deeniki relation enti ani adigedi meere. Malli Shah Bano case tho oppukoka thappleda? Asalu VHP movement ni choosi Rajeev oppukunnadu anukunte anthakanna foolishness ledu. Rajeev opened the temple doors purely for his political reasons. Shah Bano case lo outright gaa mus..ms ni appease chesadu. Adi hindus daggara cover up chesukodaniki ee issue pattukunnadu. country motham demand undi oppukoka thappaleda?

Kamal:

Rajiv lekapothe aagipoyi undedi antha kante kaadu .


aagipoyedi kadu. 1910 nundi undiga alage continue ayyedi.

Kamal:

manaki teliyakapothe .. ilanti secular sollu chaala raayachu .. ASI reports teppincharu .. material gather chesaru to show proofs that a temple existed before the masjid .. OYC ki hatred ki reason ichinda? chaaa .. babar/akbar/aurangazeb gallaki emi reason ichindi? LOL




Aa mathram VHP vallu cheyalera?

Kamal:

Advani movement ki emi ichado teliyakundane .. VHP vaallu BJP tho associate ayyi unnaru ga .. edanna telusu ante .. adi meeke




1910 nundi movement unte, Advani ki 1986 taruvatha mathrame gurtochinda rama janma bhoomi? He was a central minister as early as 1977. Thana own Govt. tho okka sari anna matladada ee issue meeda? Maaku emi teliyadu mastaru.

BJP ni VHP pattukuni veladatla, BJP ye VHP ni pattukuni veladuthondi. Anduke elections mundu mathrame gurthuku vastundi rama janma bhoomi. Aina asalu court lo fight chestunnappudu oka issue meeda, inka aa issue ni political cheyalsina avasaram enti?
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Indiarocks:

BJP ee issue lo em peekindi ippati daka?



several courts lo .. ee issue ni fight chestondi BJP lawyers ee .. including Supreme Court .. !

Indiarocks:

Rama Janma Bhoomi ani malli aa issue ni political gaa rake up chesindi Rajeev.



there was a demand from a long time for the Shilanyas .. Shah Bano case tho .. oppukoka tappaledu .. anthe .. madhya lo Rajiv podichindi emi ledu !!! Rajiv lekapothe aagipoyi undedi antha kante kaadu .. mundu venakallo aa step veyyalsinde ye govt unna .. desam mottam demand unte .. yentha autocratic govt aina peekagaligedi emi ledu !

Indiarocks:

The issue is still at the same state, except for giving ppl like OYC a reason to spread more hatred.



manaki teliyakapothe .. ilanti secular sollu chaala raayachu .. ASI reports teppincharu .. material gather chesaru to show proofs that a temple existed before the masjid .. OYC ki hatred ki reason ichinda? chaaa .. babar/akbar/aurangazeb gallaki emi reason ichindi? LOL

Indiarocks:

hehe...advani movement ki em ichadu? movement ni vadukuni BJP ki ichadu ante ok.



avunu .. Advani movement ki emi ichado teliyakundane .. VHP vaallu BJP tho associate ayyi unnaru ga .. edanna telusu ante .. adi meeke .. !
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they gave the movement something




hehe...advani movement ki em ichadu? movement ni vadukuni BJP ki ichadu ante ok.
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Kamal:

Ram Janma Bhoomi start chesindi Rajiv aa .. hahaha ..




Rama Janma Bhoomi ani malli aa issue ni political gaa rake up chesindi Rajeev.

Kamal:

Advani/BJP use chesukunnaru .. alage political ga ignore cheyyaleni issue ni chesayi .. they gave the movement something .. they got back something from the movement .. asalu "hijack" cheyyani vaallu evaru aa issue ni? pre-independence Gandhi hijack cheyyaleda independence movement ni .. alage VHP needed political support for the movement and they gladly welcomed somebody with political wieght to support the movement and take it to next stage .. in the process .. yes, BJP grew .




LOL...idem comedy. BJP grew its numbers from 2 seats to a lot more by using the movement. The issue is still at the same state, except for giving ppl like OYC a reason to spread more hatred.

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Indiarocks:

I only pointed out at two parties. Not the country . I never mentioned about VHP, or its movement. Advani was in main stream politics as early as the 70s. Why did he speak about it only after 86?



LOL .. Advani was a very small leader in the 70s .. and even in 1980, the morarji desai govt fell because morarji wanted his govt not to have ppl connected with RSS .. and you know, if RSS supports Ram Janma Bhoomi or not .. !

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Asalu Ram Janma Bhoomi ani start chesindi Rajeev. BJP/Advani just hijacked it for their gains.



LOL one last time ! Ram Janma Bhoomi start chesindi Rajiv aa .. hahaha ..

Advani/BJP use chesukunnaru .. alage political ga ignore cheyyaleni issue ni chesayi .. they gave the movement something .. they got back something from the movement .. asalu "hijack" cheyyani vaallu evaru aa issue ni? pre-independence Gandhi hijack cheyyaleda independence movement ni .. alage VHP needed political support for the movement and they gladly welcomed somebody with political wieght to support the movement and take it to next stage .. in the process .. yes, BJP grew ..
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Kamal:

but that does not make the demand connected to Shah Bano case .. even before Shah Bano case came to the fore .. VHP was carrying out a movement since 1980 for the "shilanyas" of Ram Mandir ..




meeru confuse autunnaru. I never talked about the "demand" for Ram Mandir. I only talked about political parties raking up the issue for their gains. VHP is not a political party
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Kamal:

if at all anything .. the govt was at fault .. not the country .. !




I only pointed out at two parties. Not the country . I never mentioned about VHP, or its movement. Advani was in main stream politics as early as the 70s. Why did he speak about it only after 86?

Asalu Ram Janma Bhoomi ani start chesindi Rajeev. BJP/Advani just hijacked it for their gains.
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Indiarocks:

The connection is already there...if you know history.



The demand to open up Ram Mandir was there since 1910 atleast .. where was Shah Bano then? Rajiv used it to save his a$$ .. but that does not make the demand connected to Shah Bano case .. even before Shah Bano case came to the fore .. VHP was carrying out a movement since 1980 for the "shilanyas" of Ram Mandir ..

if at all anything .. the govt was at fault .. not the country .. !
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Kamal:

Shah Bano case lo .. parliament override chesindi SC verdict ni .. particular case lo .. which was wrong .. but thats it .. it made no law out of it ! AFAIK ..




SC verdict was secular, and against using the Shariat for a case. Oka case lo judgement country motham apply autundi ani meeku telsu anukunta . Cong Govt passed the Muslim Women Act overriding the judgement.

This was not limited to one particular case. It brought up the much needed debate on whether it is good to have different civil codes for different religions.

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thats my intention to point out the irrational mention of Ram Mandir and connecting it to Shah Bano ..




The connection is already there...if you know history.
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Indiarocks:

Shah Bano case. Post ki validity ledu ante, story rasanu anukunnara?



Shah Bano case lo .. parliament override chesindi SC verdict ni .. particular case lo .. which was wrong .. but thats it .. it made no law out of it ! AFAIK ..

and opening Ram Mandir was looooong over due .. just because a politician used it for saving his a$$ .. it does not make the exact reasons invalid .. thats my intention to point out the irrational mention of Ram Mandir and connecting it to Shah Bano ..
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Kamal:

emi law? veelaithe aa law peru mention cheyyandi .. migilina post entha valid oo telustundi ... especially regarding "main opposition" .. ! LOL




Shah Bano case. Post ki validity ledu ante, story rasanu anukunnara?
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Indiarocks:

Aithe, mana Rajeev/Cong aa law ni override chestu, parliament lo law theesukochadu.



emi law? veelaithe aa law peru mention cheyyandi .. migilina post entha valid oo telustundi ... especially regarding "main opposition" .. ! LOL
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Mental_sachinodu:

it does not matter what Turks approve or Hindu approve bro, it is the law im taking about. ledhu desam lo motham janabha tharapuna nee maata theesukovali ante cheppu.. alaage vintaanu...




The supreme court gave a ruling overriding the special shariat laws. Aithe, mana Rajeev/Cong aa law ni override chestu, parliament lo law theesukochadu. That raked up the whole thing. Muslims thamaki special previliges, laws undali anna mindset ki baga support vachindi. Sare idi chesi, mahanubhavudu, deenni cover cheyadaniki inko pani chesadu. Ayodhya lo Ram temple open cheyinchadu.

Sare Cong nundi inthakante em expect cheyalemu anukunte, main opposition instead of pointing out these blunders, used the opportunity to get votes, and polarize ppl.

Unna rendu main parties ila unte, inthakante em expect chestamu?
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Mental_sachinodu:

Courts emi cheyagalavu kamalai, they are not law makers, they are just implementors. aa change valla chethi lo ledhu...



maree antha straight forward kaadu annai ee issue .. constitution lo shariat invoke cheyyadam aithe surely law makers chetilo undi .. but ilanti case lo .. quran chadivi .. nee pelli chelladu .. talak talak talak anu ante .. high court ki, panchayati petti fatwas issue chese mullah gaallaki teda undadu .. asalu aa case lo quran enduku tevalsi vachindo naaku ardam kavatledu ..

btw .. Hindus lo Khushboo Jaiswal followers .. mee paristhithi ..
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Mental_sachinodu:

there are very few differences in special marriage act, and hindu marriage act. like the list of prohibited relationships for the eligibility of marriage. In Hindus, Menarikam is an accpeted relationship for marriage but it is not valid under special marriages act.



Thanks bro. Isn't it ironical. The hindu law, muslim law etc which are made for specially for specific religions are not called special. But the one that is atleast aiming to be for common across all religions is being called special.
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Spring:

US lo unde muslims ki ee separate marriage law untunda leka all religions ki okate law untunda?




good q kani.. pata id thone adagavochu kada ..
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Spring:

US lo unde muslims ki ee separate marriage law untunda leka all religions ki okate law untunda?




US lo ledhu, ikkada andhariki okkate law.


Kamal:

Courts ni cheppu teesukuni kottali, Quran lo cheppinattu 4 ni aina chesuko parledu ani annanduku ..




Courts emi cheyagalavu kamalai, they are not law makers, they are just implementors. aa change valla chethi lo ledhu...
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US lo unde muslims ki ee separate marriage law untunda leka all religions ki okate law untunda?
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Kaan Johar



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Vjavasi:

marriage validity ki convert kavalsina avasaram ledhu anukuntunna if the boy is hindu...chala inter religious marriages vunnayi kadha atla....but muslim boy aithe tappakunda convert avvali girl ani valla personal law cheptundhi..



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Mental_sachinodu:

btw, ela unnaavu..?



fine bro .. thx .. how abt u?

Mental_sachinodu:

enti aa frustration!!!... ee vishayam lo evaru emi cheyali antaavu?



Simple, stop doling out incentives for being a Muslim and following Shariat, especially in India ! Public has to wake up and let their voice be counted! Courts ni cheppu teesukuni kottali, Quran lo cheppinattu 4 ni aina chesuko parledu ani annanduku ..
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Kamal:


The day is not far when a normal man out of frustration towards these suckers picks up arms and spills blood on the streets, until then the govt acts this sleep. No problemo, jantha janardhan sab jaanthi hai .. !




kamalai,

enti aa frustration!!!... ee vishayam lo evaru emi cheyali antaavu?

idharidhi thappu undhi, i dont know what is the punishment for the guy. i mean it is not clear whether that guy has abducted that woman and got married like her parents claim, or if their marriage was with mutual consent. if the marriage is with mutual consent who can save her, she went along with some married guy without checking on him, and married him without knowing the law of the land. what can the courts do in such cases?

mari vadiki emi punishment vesaaro dheeni lo ayithe rayaledhu, its a case of cheating, both the woman have to file another case on that guy i guess.

btw, ela unnaavu..?
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God bless India !

The day is not far when a normal man out of frustration towards these suckers picks up arms and spills blood on the streets, until then the govt acts this sleep. No problemo, jantha janardhan sab jaanthi hai .. !
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Mega:

I personally feel, the special marriage act should be the defacto one.

DO they mention which Act in marriage certificate
?




I think they do bro.

there are very few differences in special marriage act, and hindu marriage act. like the list of prohibited relationships for the eligibility of marriage. In Hindus, Menarikam is an accpeted relationship for marriage but it is not valid under special marriages act.

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Uniform Marriage code implement cheyali ani chala arguments unnaayi, but mana politicians alantidhi approve cheyaali ante enni tharaalu paduthundhoo...
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Vundaali.

But, within the limitations imposed by Shariat, this is an excellent judgement by the High court.

Learn to read between the lines....
kurrol anavasaram gaa oogutunaar...this is good for both Hindus and Muslims.




uniform civil code and shariat are mutually exclusive...i agree there are pros and cons to this judgement...my point is why the law of land should force somebody to convert for marriage...i am not referring to this specific case...mullahs will use this judgement to emphasize conversion
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I personally feel, the special marriage act should be the defacto one.

DO they mention which Act in marriage certificate?
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Mental_sachinodu:

in special marriage act, a muslim cannot have multiple wives. in this case he is already married, so he is not eligible for special marriage act.




Thanks..I see the point
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That guy was married under Muslim marriage act, i mean his first marriage, so his case will be dealt with islamic tenets of marriage as the base. same is the case for hindus and christians
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ok ok.....

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i dont understand this court showing Quran as reference.....

If quran is used in courts then why go to courts...

Repu....evadno thannesi dikkilo thongo bettesi.......Bhagawad gita lo Krishundu seppadu.....Darmam nilabetta mani antey saripodda?


court lo non-beleivers.....beleivers entehey......




though it sounds strange, it is true in india. I was surprised in the way marriages are dealt under indian law, kani there are many intersting reasons for handling them that way.

That guy was married under Muslim marriage act, i mean his first marriage, so his case will be dealt with islamic tenets of marriage as the base. same is the case for hindus and christians.
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Vjavasi:

uniform civil code vundala vadda...nee opinion cheppu




Vundaali.

But, within the limitations imposed by Shariat, this is an excellent judgement by the High court.

Learn to read between the lines....
kurrol anavasaram gaa oogutunaar...this is good for both Hindus and Muslims.
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Please study the law intrepreted here. Hindu&Muslim marriage aithe, they can remain without converting and can maintain marriage via special marriage act.

now m.law.board declares that such option is not allowed. either concevrt or dont get married.




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i have studied it kabatte chepthunnanu bro, please revisit it again. whether hindus approve of special marriage act or not is purelu individualistic, it does not matter to the courts. its a matter of choice to the inviduals. same is the case with muslims, it does not matter whether they approve of special marriages act. a muslim, if he choses can get married under special marriage act, it is up to the individual.

in the case here, the individual is married under muslim marriage act, so the case will be dealt with islamic tenets.
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in special marriage act, a muslim cannot have multiple wives. in this case he is already married, so he is not eligible for special marriage act.
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Mega:


I think vjvasi's point is that in the below case why did the Judge not mention about the Speical MArriage Act to maintain each others' religion




in special marriage act, a muslim cannot have multiple wives. in this case he is already married, so he is not eligible for special marriage act.
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Mental_sachinodu:

it is the law im taking about.




Please study the law intrepreted here. Hindu&Muslim marriage aithe, they can remain without converting and can maintain marriage via special marriage act.

now m.law.board declares that such option is not allowed. either concevrt or dont get married.
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i dont understand this court showing Quran as reference.....

If quran is used in courts then why go to courts...

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Mental_sachinodu:

it does not matter what Turks approve or Hindu approve bro, it is the law im taking about. ledhu desam lo motham janabha tharapuna nee maata theesukovali ante cheppu.. alaage vintaanu...




I think vjvasi's point is that in the below case why did the Judge not mention about the Speical MArriage Act to maintain each others' religion
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Hail_the_labour:

Mental_sachh: Isssue is different here. Hindus willl recognise SPECIAL MARRIAGE ACT (if diff religion people are married)...

wherease the ruling below tells that, TURQS wont accept any special marriage act. they will recognise only AFTER converting. no convert. no marriage.




it does not matter what Turks approve or Hindu approve bro, it is the law im taking about. ledhu desam lo motham janabha tharapuna nee maata theesukovali ante cheppu.. alaage vintaanu...
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Ke Ke Ke..... dooola teeerindhi sikular supporters ki... ke ke ke..


Mental_sachh: Isssue is different here. Hindus willl recognise SPECIAL MARRIAGE ACT (if diff religion people are married)...

wherease the ruling below tells that, TURQS wont accept any special marriage act. they will recognise only AFTER converting. no convert. no marriage.
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Cinejeevi:

DB lo india lo so called SIKularists ki pandaga anukuntunna.




evado evarthno pelli seskundhi anta, dhaniki inkevariko pandaga anta... chass...
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maa oorlo oka atanu muslim ammayini chesukuni....tirupathi teesukuni peru marchesaadu..
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Vjavasi:

uniform civil code vundala vadda...nee opinion cheppu




avasaram ledu.. minority ayina mus.. ki rights unte chalu..
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Vjavasi:

marriage validity ki convert kavalsina avasaram ledhu anukuntunna if the boy is hindu...chala inter religious marriages vunnayi kadha atla....but muslim boy aithe tappakunda convert avvali girl ani valla personal law cheptundhi..




bro as i said earlier, wedding chestharu without any problems, but they are merely ceremonial, when they try to register the marriage, they will have to marry before the registrar again, under special marriage act. their marriage certificate will specify its under special marriage act.

but yes, Most Muslims and some Christians will not allow the ceremony to happen unless they get converted. Most Hindus usually let the ceremony take place with out conversion, but they cannot register under Hindu Marriage Act.
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soooferrrr...good job by highcourt






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Mental_sachinodu:





marriage validity ki convert kavalsina avasaram ledhu anukuntunna if the boy is hindu...chala inter religious marriages vunnayi kadha atla....but muslim boy aithe tappakunda convert avvali girl ani valla personal law cheptundhi..
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DB lo india lo so called SIKularists ki pandaga anukuntunna.
congratulations to Razesh!!
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Vjavasi:

brother boy hindu, girl muslim aithe convert avvalsina avasaram ledu anukuntunna marriage register cheyyataniki...muslims ki seperate personal law vundhi kabatti tappakunda convert kaavali antunnar




(1) This Act applies,-

(a) to any person who is a Hindu by religion in any of its forms or developments, including a Virashaiva, a Lingayat or a follower of the Brahmo, Prarthana or Arya Samaj;
(b) to any person who is a Buddhist, Jaina or Sikh by religion, and
(c) to any other person domiciled in the territories to which this Act extends who is not a Muslim, Christian, Parsi or Jew by religion, unless it is proved that any such person would not have been governed by the Hindu law or by any custom or usage as part of that law in respect of any of the matters dealt with herein if this Act had not been passed.

Explanation.- The following persons are Hindus, Buddhists, Jainas or Sikhs by religion, as the case may be,-

(a) any child, legitimate or illegitimate, both of whose parents are Hindus, Buddhists, Jainas or Sikhs by religion;
(b) any child, legitimate or illegitimate, one of whose parents is a Hindu, Buddhist Jaina or Sikh by religion and who is brought up as a member of tribe, community, group or family to which such parents belongs or belonged; and
(c) any person who is a convert or re-convert to the Hindus, Buddhist, Jaina or Sikh religion.

(2) Notwithstanding anything contained in sub-section (1), nothing contained in this Act shall apply to the members of any Scheduled Tribe within the meaning of clause (25) of Article 366 of the Constitution unless the Central Government, by notification in the Official Gazette, otherwise directs.

(3) The expression "Hindus" in any portion of this Act shall be construed as if it included a person who, though not a Hindu by religion is, nevertheless, a person whom this Act applies by virtue of the provisions contained in this section.
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soooferrrr...good job by highcourt


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Mental_sachinodu:





brother boy hindu, girl muslim aithe convert avvalsina avasaram ledu anukuntunna marriage register cheyyataniki...muslims ki seperate personal law vundhi kabatti tappakunda convert kaavali antunnar
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Bunty717:

adi correct ee avochu mama..
mus boy and hindu girl ayite girl should covert to isla...

ade bou hindu and girl mus ahyite.. girl hinduism ki covert avutundaa..
valla religion oppukuntundaa ee conversion ki ani q'ing..

maa intiki vochevu eti techevu..

mee intiki vochenu eti istavu .. type untadi ee turaks rules..




that is upto the individuals bro.

in case of a muslim guy and a hindu girl, when they have hindu wedding ceremony, that wedding is not recognised by the law, that guy has to convert to hinduism, if he intends to register it as a hindu wedding.

same goes with a hindu girl too, if she wants her muslim wedding to be recognized by the courts, she has to convert to islam.

without conversion these are merely ceremonial, does not hold up in the courts and are not legally official.

regarding your question, religion oppukuntundha conversion ki ante, I dont think any religion approves converting to another religion, of course in case islam, it might lead to violence.
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Mental_sachinodu:

in these three acts, both persons involved should belong to the same religion, or their marriages are void.




adi correct ee avochu mama..
mus boy and hindu girl ayite girl should covert to isla...

ade bou hindu and girl mus ahyite.. girl hinduism ki covert avutundaa..
valla religion oppukuntundaa ee conversion ki ani q'ing..

maa intiki vochevu eti techevu..

mee intiki vochenu eti istavu .. type untadi ee turaks rules..
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i dont think that is strange.

it is true if the marriages are conducted using hindu marriage act, christian marriage act or muslim marriage act. in these three acts, both persons involved should belong to the same religion, or their marriages are void.

if two persons from different religions have to marry, and for registering the wedding, they should marry under special marriages act.
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//"Do not marry unbelieving women until they believe... Nor marry your girls to unbelievers until they believe".//

ee thotti verse waadi judge kurrol saved the girl from a life long torture anukuntunna
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mari vellu kuda Hinduism ki convert avutaraa.. boy hindi and girl mus ayite..
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this can happen only in india....mera bharat mahan
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Muslim-mans-wedding -void-if-woman-fails-to-convert-says-HC/articleshow/5918103. cms

ALLAHABAD: The Allahabad High Court has held that a Muslim man's marriage to a woman of another religion shall be considered void and against the tenets of Islam if he fails to get her converted to the religion before wedlock.

In its order, a division bench comprising Justices Vinod Prasad and Rajesh Chandra also ruled that remarriage of a Muslim man shall be held void if he abandons his first wife without divorcing her and fails to treat children born of the marriage in a fair and just manner.

The order was passed on Monday when the bench dismissed a writ petition of one Dilbar Habib Siddiqui, a resident of Allahabad, who had married a Hindu girl named Khushboo on December 29, last year.

Siddiqui had moved the court with the plea to quash the FIR lodged against him by Khushboo's mother Sunita Jaiswal alleging that he had kidnapped her daughter, a minor at that time, and had compelled her to marry him.

Refuting the charges levelled against him in the FIR, Siddiqui produced a copy of Khushboo's high school certificate to prove that she was a major at the time of marriage and her (Khushboo's) representations to higher authorities, upon learning about the FIR, that the marriage was a result of mutual consent.

While holding that having more than one wife is permissible under Islam, the court, however, took strong note of the fact that before tying the knot with Khushboo, Siddiqui had not disclosed to her that he was already married and was the father of three children.

His first wife had appeared before the court during the course of the hearing and alleged that Siddiqui had abandoned her and their three children, compelling them to "live like destitutes".

The court noted that Siddiqui "albeit married, had deceived Khushboo Jaiswal, who did not intimate us that she was in the knowledge of the petitioner's first marriage".

"For a valid Muslim marriage, both the spouses have to be Muslim. In the present writ petition, this condition is not satisfied", the court remarked and quoted from a verse in the Holy Quran which says, "Do not marry unbelieving women until they believe... Nor marry your girls to unbelievers until they believe".

Besides, the petitioner's marriage to Khushboo without divorcing his first wife and not dealing with his three children in a fair and just manner was "against the tenets of the Holy Quran" and hence "cannot be legally sanctified", the court said.

The bench quoted the following verse from the holy book while making the above observation - "Marry woman of your choice, two, three or four; But if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one... that would be more suitable to prevent you from doing injustice".

Dismissing the petition, the court directed that investigations in the impugned FIR be conducted expeditiously and authorities of the Nari Niketan, where Khushboo is currently housed, hand her over to her parents.

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