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     Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 13117 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.140 Rating: N/A |
I guess its a case of sarcasm .. misfired or misunderstood .. nenu indaka post veyyadaaniki reason .. only to stop the fight, which is actually unnecessary .. lets keep the thread clean  "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 13116 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.140 Rating: N/A |
why whine about others? when u cannot control ur "senses" .. isnt it the cause of where we are? and what are we told about people who cannot control their senses? let us stop whining and think about it and address issues, if possible ! "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 13115 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.140 Rating: N/A |
may be .. depends on what needs to be the objective of a human in life .. ala choosukunte .. what is said is enough emo? alochinchandi!
enduku workout avvadu bro? holistic view lo chooste .. may be society can be better that way emo anipistundi naaku .. btw .. I am not claiming any moral highground on this issue .. I am as guilty as any other Indian ! "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar | ||
| Telugubabu Comedian Username: Telugubabu Post Number: 1382 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 216.235.145.67 Rating: N/A |
 Expect nothing, live frugally on surprise. | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1862 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
>>>> @pplsuck - annai vedas as they are, are sacred and probably deserve a bit of respect emo .. gnanulu meeku teliyandi emundi >>>>>>>>>>. Kamal, read it again.....it ain't anything about vedas.....Coke moderation godavallo konchem deep gaa hurt ayyaademo Mav........he is just trying to find something to pick a fight with me...... monna Divi ni dobbutuntey, Mav, kish, Coke hurt aipoyaaru nenu brahmin bashing chestunnaa ani......I din't even have a clue until they reacted.....sare BOGO offer lo vaallu free gaa hurt aithey naademipoyindani vadilesaa....... | ||
| Bunty717 Side Hero Username: Bunty717 Post Number: 6943 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 161.185.151.155 Rating: N/A |
enduku ledu.. ade true ayite.. inta develop ayevalamaa.. specific caste emi cheyali ani varnas lo chepero.. adi ippudu workout avadu.. ayina 100's of yrs back form chesina categorys ni follow avali anukovadam foolishness.. | ||
| Iamim Side Hero Username: Iamim Post Number: 3998 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170 Rating: |
Sinister Peer pressure.. Nalugu rojula saavasam chesthe vaaru veeru autharu.. Due to compelling circumstances beyond control.. its neither possible nor feasible for Agraharas.. When you cant beat them join them.. When you cant join them drag them.. dumb them.. demonize them.. Praise Brahmans on the face for being a non Brahmanical liberal.. Laugh behind the back for Bankrupting them.. Bring forth dumbing down.. thumping up the chests.. quite an achievement... | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 13113 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
sadly, circumstances clause relaxation ledu annai rule ki .. come what may .. if u do that .. u r this anedi oka unwritten law .. takkina vaallu ante .. see what they are told to do .. (only with respect to varnas and not caste!) .. aa lekkalo choosukunte .. there are no "true sudras" as well .. (with all due respect everyone here !) "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1861 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
>>> ..i asked u to stop comparing every damn thing with vedas. vedas is not a property of brahmins, but everyone who is a hindu. >>>>>>>>>>> ippudu comparision ekkada jarigindi...asalu vedas meeda naa comment okati choopinchu.......vedas are the "way to salvation".....aney context lo use chesina word maathramey adi....there was no reference or comment about real vedas or anything...... example ichchaa choodu......."A is the Mantra to achieve B" antey....the sentence is not talking about mantras......the word mantra is used to explain the context.......same way here....Im not talking about vedas....the word is used to explain what upper castes has to do to atone for their atrocities against dalits..... >>>> if u get this to ur head as soon, the better for you. >>>>>>>>>> nuvvu first analogy antey enti ani chaduvukuni raa.......nuvvoo nee telivi....malla OT ni rambabu antaav....... | ||
| Bunty717 Side Hero Username: Bunty717 Post Number: 6942 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 161.185.151.155 Rating: N/A |
undakapovochu.. kani daaniki reason enti adu chudali kada.. circumstances chudali kada.. vellu knowledge gain chesukunta knowledge panchuthu edo veda patashalo lo untaru .. alage takina castes vallu kuda valla panulu vallu chesukuntaraa.. so can we say " I dont even see any Reddy/Raju/kamma" these days ani.. | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 13110 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141 Rating: N/A |
explain cheyyadaaniki emi ledu bro .. brahmins by birth chaala mande unnaru .. brahmins by character (kinda vjavasi cheppina gunas kooda ave)??? I doubt, not many are there (the true brahmins - whose aim in life is nothing and nothing else but acquiring knowledge) !!! "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 13109 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141 Rating: N/A |
annais .. peace .. truce .. no fights .. @pplsuck - annai vedas as they are, are sacred and probably deserve a bit of respect emo .. gnanulu meeku teliyandi emundi "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar | ||
| Bunty717 Side Hero Username: Bunty717 Post Number: 6940 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 161.185.151.155 Rating: N/A |
naku pplsuck ee post artham avalee... neeku ayinatu undi.. konchem explain cheyi.. | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 13108 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141 Rating: N/A |
nenu anduke dooram ga untunna ee thread ki .. 
very very true bro .. 101% nijam .. @all others .. very good disco going on ! "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar | ||
| Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 14956 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: |
i don't care if u abuse brahmins.u r free to abuse...i asked u to stop comparing every damn thing with vedas. vedas is not a property of brahmins, but everyone who is a hindu. if u get this to ur head as soon, the better for you. | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1860 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
>>>> neekanta ledule..extra posts eyyaku..prati addamina danni vedas to polustoo..edo liberal annatu color ivvaku db lo.. >>>>>>>>>>> Mav, you ain't that sharp or I ain't that witty these days.......ee gola enti?......."meat eating is the mantra for body builders" antey......meat ni manthraalatho polchaku ani fire aipothaavaa???..........vedas lo "Mayawati Jai" anamannaaru antey nuvvu feel avvochchu........I ain't even talking about vedas there and I don;t even know anything about them.........if upper castes has to atone for their sins in previous periods and path to salvation is praising mayawati......let them do it.......keep the dalit oppression apart from this discussion ani cheppadaaniki chesina attempt adi.......... daanni pattukuni nenu vedas meeda lecture ichchinattu ee gola enti?.........ninna Basky edo logic cheppaadu four options ichchi....alaa undi nee gola..........em brahmins genetic intellecto teleedu gaani.......chastunnaam ee telivi ki..... monna kooda anthey........Divi thread lo nenu Brahmin bashing annattu feel aipoyaav.........ask Divi what I was doing....he got it right and I was pushing him into a corner.......for posting as though kammas are not part of hindus........neeku andulo brahmin bashing kanipinchindi..... ikkada janatha nenu caste system ni supporting, chaandasavaadi, conservative, nara naraallo racism jeerninchukupoyindi ani feel avutunnaaru......nuvvochchi liberal cutting ivoddu antaav........ em gola raa naayana......don't feel bad.....I ain't bashing any brahmins here......I don't even see any brahmins anywhere these days to bash them..... | ||
| Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 14949 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
neekanta ledule..extra posts eyyaku..prati addamina danni vedas to polustoo..edo liberal annatu color ivvaku db lo.. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2141 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 59.93.53.105 Rating: N/A |
i agree especially the way they memorized and preserved the memories of ancient civilization.....without those memories personally i feel life is not worth living considering the rootlessness and hypocracy of current civilization..but they are fast loosing it ..... | ||
| Iamim Side Hero Username: Iamim Post Number: 3991 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170 Rating: N/A |
One trait of Brahmanism is Vegetarianism.. Vegetarianism itself is a Yagna.. Vegetarianism itself is a Religion.. Crores of Brahmans who are Vegetarians are a living testimony to the Yagna that is Brahmanism.. Brahmans should be wary of the dumbing down syndrome theories that flout around to demean.. discourage.. disparage.. debase them.. Even if all the Brahmans were to extinct suddenly.. the world would still be in wonderment that such a class of People even ever existed on the face of Earth.. Their achievements are.. to put it mildly.. simply non parallel... | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1859 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
>>>> Yeah.. dragging down.. dumbing down.. entire society to LCD.. provides a sigh of .. sense of succouring self satisfaction.. >>>>>>>>> "padaardham chettagunnadi...yadaardham cheduguntadi"........I dare not say a word about the consequences or bi-products of today..... for everything there is a time and place......ain't looking to change anything here......just want people to be clear about their understanding......tittaalantey casteism ni baaga ardham chesukuni tittamantunnaa.....rather than this hyperbole of equality, non-discrimination, nothing based on birth..........kinda phoney intellectual line of argument tho kaakundaa...... | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1858 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
>>>> nuvvu kaasta ati taggiste better emo.. >>>>>>>>> nuvvu adigi tanninchukodam maaneyyi first..... | ||
| Iamim Side Hero Username: Iamim Post Number: 3990 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170 Rating: N/A |
Yeah.. dragging down.. dumbing down.. entire society to LCD.. provides a sigh of .. sense of succouring self satisfaction.. | ||
| Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 14946 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
nuvvu kaasta ati taggiste better emo.. | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1856 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
Ok guys...I leave it here.....its so easy to misunderstand the every day evidence we have right in front of our eyes...... may be I ain;t explaining it that good.....if anyone is interested read "Black Swan" by Nassim Taleb......its hard to read.......but then very good read to understand the common misconceptions..... "The Prophet" by Kahlil Gibhran is another good read......may help in living a dildaar life......all the silly things doesnt matter anyway........ | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1854 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
Dalit kurrolla atrocities ki compensation gaa all your upper caste assxholes shud say praise our maha naari by chanting "Mayawati Jai" ten times everyday.......and take it as your vedas everyday..... ee vishayam lo blood boil chesukoku Elca.......everyone agrees...... | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1853 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
and why did you prefer Ganguly to be a captain based on his background again? BTW, segregation was a little too crude.........segregation, slavery is phenomenon of old days than caste societies anukuntaa.....it was there all over the world.... annitini mix chesi bhel puri kalapadam maaneyyi..........lets talk qualities, abilities, gunas and how systems are any different.......... | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1852 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
Elca baabu, There ain't stopping no one whose destiny is to reach the heights.....people changing bands based on individual talent and spirit is always there...... look at systems and how they are designed.......rather than talking only about exceptions.......now there are only two castes.....haves and have nots.....as we are in capitalism......... see if the system is easy for a rich person or the poor person...... aa madhya middle class(sachin) mentality and rich(Ganguly) guys thinking ani batman cinema type lo class peekaavey, okka saari aa lecture gurthu techchuko.....you will understand how minds shape up depending on where they were born and how they are raised anedi..... | ||
| Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 12144 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 170.22.76.10 Rating: N/A |
 CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 19800 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 173.209.26.130 Rating: N/A |
gunam endhi vayya...gunam....I believe in people gifted by birth but if you observe and look around you its mostly people who work hard that make it to top than people who are gifted.... take Lara a naturally gifted cricketer for whom transformation from an infant to a kid holding a bat is as smooth as a fish taking to water...but then guess what he considers net practice as a occupational hazard...he got screwed... And now we have a sachin tendulkar who aint as natural as lara but works his butt off even now at this age and maintains a level of consistency which is not human like... Now who had a great career a lara or a sachin?? its sachin... being gifted aint shit....hardwork pays the dividends at the end....take george best a naturally gifted footballer or a brando a miracle in acting but its a ronaldo and a tom hanks who r less inferior to the formers but who had more succesful careers in their respective professions.... by birth occhedhi is not going to determine what ur going to become for the rest of ur life... So u take chathur varna crap and apply the same logic....and even for argument sake if we agree by segregating people like animals and forcing them to fck someone from their own groups to protect genes or watever the bi product of that insanity does not necessarily share the same passion for the skill that these people are trying to protect or enhance....adhi bottom line its common sense..... | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2140 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 59.93.53.105 Rating: N/A |
true...after seeing different arguments on caste the other day i just wanted to link it to original varna system and how current caste evolved through the ages...btw cuurently everyone of us is a victim of modern politicized caste system | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1851 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
>>>>> Brother, capitalism is an unavoidable hidden risk of civilization. But by formulating casteism, we pretty much legalized it, made it officially acceptable and gave it a free pass to exist in the society. >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good observation.......in fact the only observation that is really different b/n casteism and capitalism........In a caste society, the hierarchical nature of the system is explicit.......and in capitalism, it is implicit and we lead the same unequal lives........ so please don't fall for the equality, discrimination and classification bcoz of caste societies.....these will always be there.....in any system.... >>>>>>>>> That makes casteism a more powerful discriminating system. >>>>>>>>>>>> may be.......I need to see the evidence to come to that conclusion..... Vjavasi, Just gunas and discussion antey easy ayyedemo brother.....by uttering the word "caste" you have opened a can of worms..... BTW, I also agree with your observation that there ain't many brahmans out there these days.......at least I haven't come across any who is truthfully seeking knowledge and nothing else......Long time back I knew one guy and he is a schizo now.........It probably ain't possible in today's world.... may be the good thing about capitalism is everyone is a Sudra ( in true terms of guna definitions).........I have no clue.... and sorry for all the deviations.......I just want people to understand the systems for what they are without being too judgmental..... | ||
| Bhikhu Side Hero Username: Bhikhu Post Number: 6095 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 148.129.71.52 Rating: N/A |
banchan mi kal mokta..essay writing competition ettamakandi | ||
| Telugubabu Comedian Username: Telugubabu Post Number: 1377 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 71.56.33.118 Rating: N/A |
I think I agree with you and netsaint. genes do play a role. actually I was laughing for a different reason. agree kids inherit genes like sattvik guna genes from parents just like physical appearance. i think 50 to 75% chances for heriditary. but remember siblings from same parents with both good looking and exactly same gunas may not inherit same gunas from parents. i was laughing(brahmi icon) because that time i was thinking about descrimination and people taking undue advantage ofthis gene theory. maa muttaata IIT lo professor andukani nenu kooda intelligent ni. naaku job ivvandi ani adagakoodadu. next food. people need good nutrient food for physical health and brain. eating vegitarian food helps improve brain health for some people. it reduces body cholesterol. so no blockage of blood to brain. people those who spend more time in AC rooms( those who don't do any physical work) should not eat meat. i guess thats the reaon brahmins & vysyas don't eat meat and kshatriyas and sudras eat meat. all is well. Expect nothing, live frugally on surprise. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2138 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 59.93.83.181 Rating: N/A |
but still tanu create chesanu ane cheptunnadu ga based on guna and karma...nenu by birth caste vastundhi analedhu...i am just saying guna transfer aithe jarugutundhi it doesn't mean other people can't inherit the same qualities.....remember when we talk about inheritance we refer to mix of two sets of qualities....sometimes the combination of gunas from each parent that are individually not sattvic could become a sattvic combination and that happens rarely...to me gunas are very strong...they control us like anything...no matter how much we read and try to change it's very difficult to overcome them...we can't become what we want and it's very very very difficult to change our inherent nature | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2137 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 59.93.83.181 Rating: N/A |
sorry i had to leave to catch train, asalu na posts lo points meedha kakunda anniti meedha discuss chestunnaru ga.....nenu cheppedhi from the very beginning some had privilege of knowledge which had a relation with gunas which according to me are part of human physiology and part of these gunas are hereditary...also as a civilization we haven't started as all dumbo's and later evolved to super intelligent beings...super intelligence was present from the beginning if we go by gita...please focus your arguments on these | ||
| Telugubabu Comedian Username: Telugubabu Post Number: 1371 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 216.235.145.67 Rating: N/A |
caste 3 and caste 4 are created by govt. caste3 & caste4 people can join FC caste1 and caste2 if they give up their reservation. Expect nothing, live frugally on surprise. | ||
| Andhrawala Side Hero Username: Andhrawala Post Number: 2250 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 65.190.65.171 Rating: N/A |
Caste1 and caste 2 are kind of OK to some extent. When we divided people based on food eating veg or non veg, do u think we need caste 3 and caste 4 | ||
| Netsaint Side Hero Username: Netsaint Post Number: 3069 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
fake resume petti, gem work chesthe endhi,lekunte endhi... ethically Fire autharu.... idhi anthe "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ | ||
| Netsaint Side Hero Username: Netsaint Post Number: 3068 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
simple.refused to take Karna as his student, since Karna was a son of a charioteer and Drona only taught Kshatriyas. "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ | ||
| Telugubabu Comedian Username: Telugubabu Post Number: 1369 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 216.235.145.67 Rating: N/A |
physical appearance ni personality tho ela compare chestaru ? beauty with brains gurinchi vinaleda ? panditha putra parama sunta gurinchi vinaleda ? Expect nothing, live frugally on surprise. | ||
| Venkateswarlu Comedian Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 1103 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 99.191.241.241 Rating: N/A |
Sare.. evaro okallu.. karnudi death reasoning kaadu eeda kochhening.. why was he not eligible to learn like other kids? tell i say.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  | ||
| Netsaint Side Hero Username: Netsaint Post Number: 3065 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
parasuraama mama. "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ | ||
| Netsaint Side Hero Username: Netsaint Post Number: 3064 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
no its not drona. karnudi chaavuki 6 karannalu unnai. "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ | ||
| Venkateswarlu Comedian Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 1101 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 99.191.241.241 Rating: N/A |
Bharatham la Karununki nerpina vidyalni marchipoyelaa enduk chestad mama dronacharyudu? In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Netsaint Side Hero Username: Netsaint Post Number: 3062 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
auvunu mari... same environment lo raise chesthe, total hritikroshans and aiswarya rai lu autharu andarooo.. lolllllll "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ | ||
| Netsaint Side Hero Username: Netsaint Post Number: 3060 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
wat your trying to seek. cheppu mama. you want to aruge all castes are same. all humans may be equalised, but castes cannot be equal. everyone has thier mastery, skills over it. "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ | ||
| Telugubabu Comedian Username: Telugubabu Post Number: 1366 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 216.235.145.67 Rating: N/A |
 intha camedy ga thayarayyaru janam. aapendehe.. genes anta food anta. Expect nothing, live frugally on surprise. | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3104 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.88.234.149 Rating: N/A |
Ivi elaa untayo koddiga chepthaara? ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y | ||
| Venkateswarlu Comedian Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 1099 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 99.191.241.241 Rating: N/A |
Chary gaaru.. VERE laaga develop aithe parledu.. VERE LAAGAA ne neeku develop avvaali ante papam pheel avutaaru..  In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Netsaint Side Hero Username: Netsaint Post Number: 3057 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: |
Dont Compare APPLES and ORANGES. Both are Diff. Both will Diff. Both created DIff. Each has its own taste/color/odour/characteristsics/advantages/disadvantages/ benifits/pitfalls/costs/etc. not all girls are beautiful, even if they r humans, food same pettina, personality develop VERE laaga authundi..... its all hidden GENES carry forward.. meeku cheppina waste... Waste to spend time on this topic. "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3100 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.88.234.149 Rating: N/A |
Brother, capitalism is an unavoidable hidden risk of civilization. But by formulating casteism, we pretty much legalized it, made it officially acceptable and gave it a free pass to exist in the society. That makes casteism a more powerful discriminating system. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1850 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
>>>>>>>> Yes, but capitalism is related to money and power which are essential components of society. The difficulties in avoiding it are very hard. But casteism on the other hand was coerced system and totally avoidable. If not why don't you see such systems in other societies. Some societies tried it but later abolished it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ishan, it is all the same thing dude......just different names.....all of them are hierarchical systems with people at top having advantages and people at bottom feeding the top.......people change bands as needed....but then hierarchy will be there......yesterday's brahmins are today's dalits....and today's dalits may be tomorrow's kings......same thing with other societies too.....may be with different names.......the structure is always there... there is no horizontal system till date....and it doesn't work....bcoz nature is not about equality or horizontal systems....either within the species or among the species..........look at the food chain in the ecosystem......why ain't everyone having the same privileges? I am done done done.......enjoy cheskondi inka mee doubts tho questions tho....I ain't answering them no more.....if you are really interested you can ponder on the topic yourself and reach your own conclusion.........anyways does it matter whether we understand it or not?......screw the caste system and all evils with it.......enjoy the moment and live till you breath....... but realize that we all have a devil in us......being romantic is so sweet and cute............but reality might strike one day........ | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1849 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
>>>>> konni vandhala years nundi undey chathur varna system lo nuvvu repeated ga cheppey only name vedha vyas....nenu neeky million names istha current system lo who were born to under priviliged families but made it big... edho argue seyyalani sesthannav....continue iifo >>>>>>>>>>>> dude, there is unprecedented economic boom in the past 50 years like never seen before......... anyways, may be I am missing the point you guys are trying to point out.....from what I read and what I see, humans and life cycles haven't changed much........only the tools and lifestyles have changed.........it only appears like its all changed so much and now we are the emancipated souls........ anyways that's the understanding of my crude brain..........I think I pretty much said what's on my mind......enjoy the weekend..... | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3099 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.88.234.149 Rating: N/A |
Yes, but capitalism is related to money and power which are essential components of society. The difficulties in avoiding it are very hard. But casteism on the other hand was coerced system and totally avoidable. If not why don't you see such systems in other societies. Some societies tried it but later abolished it. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 3118 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
deenni discrimination antara? Nature discriminate cheyadaniki, humans cheyadaniki theda leda?  Evaru ekkada puttali annadantlo mana control ledu, kani veedu ee caste kabatti idi mathrame cheyali, idi cheyakudadu annadi completely set by humans. leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1846 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
vadilesthey better emo....ee topic tegadu elaagoo..... Ishan, think again......the only natural discrimination is the place/family where you are born into.........I don't know the why.........rest all man made systems ye...... casteism lo konni families lo puttina vaallaki benefits untey....the same thing happens in capitalism too......... | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 19799 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.100.28.147 Rating: N/A |
konni vandhala years nundi undey chathur varna system lo nuvvu repeated ga cheppey only name vedha vyas....nenu neeky million names istha current system lo who were born to under priviliged families but made it big... edho argue seyyalani sesthannav....continue iifo | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3097 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.88.234.149 Rating: N/A |
This is a very bad alibi and a far fetched argument. Yes, discrimination in the form of capitalism and racism is naturally derived. But evolution of casteism was purely man made. There is nothing natural about it. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1845 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
>>>> Sck thammudu current system not perfect...but way better than chathur lingam system....a rickshaw pullers kid can give a run for mukesh ambanis kid in lifestyle if he wants to when he grew up by working hard and being in right place at right time....chathur linga system lo aadu rickshaw thokkuthuney retire avuthadu.... >>>>>>>>>>>>> vaatini exceptions antaaru.......kurrollu veda vyaas ani vastaaru..... | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 19798 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.100.28.147 Rating: N/A |
Sck thammudu current system not perfect...but way better than chathur lingam system....a rickshaw pullers kid can give a run for mukesh ambanis kid in lifestyle if he wants to when he grew up by working hard and being in right place at right time....chathur linga system lo aadu rickshaw thokkuthuney retire avuthadu.... ee mukka neekendhuku artham kavatledhu or else iina kooda artham lanattu acting sesthunnava??? yes discrimination is there....u cant work in this job cause u aint a citizen or u dont have a permit is also a discrimination....we are moving one step ahead...all kids are not born equal....but then again new rules are coming up which r addressing issues like education n nutrition complusory for all kids...gradual ga changes osthannai....ilanti manchi ishayalni pakkana petti rickshaw mukesh amani example thesthey elaga??? billgates poverty ni eradicate sesthanai kankanam attukunnadu....if he succeeds there is equality in atleast 70% in world in terms of basic needs.....I firmly believe a gifted kurrod can be born anywhere and chathur linga system chops of the wings of that gifted kurrod to flourish | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1844 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
>>>>> Mama.. Discrimination ki Seggregation ki difference undi anukuntaa.. Seggregate cheshi discriminate cheshina history manadi.. kaadantaavaa? Ledoo, prathee society lo ee rendoo jeriginai ani anukuni flo lo falo aipodaamaa? Falo aipodaamu ante endu ee topic ni laagi saagadeesi discoing settunnavu.. ninnatsandi.. >>>>>>>>>>>> so true man.....I think I shud shut up......edava gola edava gola ni....time dobbings.....and ppl not understandings..... Olden times lo segregation, slavery and other stuff nadichipoyinaayi in all cultures........I doubt even Kamal/vjavasi is trying to support it.....dalits definitely got a raw deal....... bottom line is........caste system ni choosi gundello gunapaalu dimpesukovaalsina pani ledu hindus ki....or this was designed by some dumbfucker or group of people for their own advantage theories just sound like bull crap........no no no....we love to hate hinduism and believe in what we like antey....they can continue to do it....... peace out guys.......screw them hindu casteist racist bastardxs.....:-) | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1843 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: |
>>>>>> What you say is different from, not allowing somebody to do something in the name of customs, or promoting social harmony, order etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> okati nuvvu ardham chesukotalledu.......even today 3rd class chadivi nenu harvard lo professor avuthaa antey oppukuntaaraa?????....there are restrictions based on ability........Anand cheppina Eugenics valla, nature's accidental birth at someone's home and appati infrastructure valla choosthey.........ability is directly related to one's birth ane inference doesn't look soo stupid.... >>>>>>>>>>> I do not understand what is not practical about it. You are not forcing kids to be raised same here. Oka kid ni ela raise cheyali anedi aa parents ishtam. Kani custom, family profession, caste, nuvvu idi mathrame cheyali, idi cheyakudadu ani anatam stupidity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> baasu, kids oka rickshaw vaadi family lo pudithey, he is forced to live in those silly conditions......ain't today's world discriminating that kid to have a poor childhood bcoz of where he is born????....parents istam istam antunnaav.....parents dont have that choice.........naa kid ni Mukesh Ambani kid kantey goppagaa penchadam naaku istam........kudurutundaa? kudaradu....... >>>>>>>>> Asalu parents ye valla professional interests pillala meeda force cheyakudadu ani accept chestunnamu. alantidi customs, caste perutho society evaru force cheyataniki? >>>>>>>>>>>>> get this clear......choice isthey everybody wants their kids to get the best things in the world..........based on where he is born, the kid gets only the lifestyle and choice that his parents can afford..... it is not like, parents and kids want something and there is nothing stopping them to get it......... Baasu, inkoka question adigemundu inkokasaari aalochinchu brother........what is it that is different in caste system that it is not true in today's world ani? | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 3117 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: |
okadu nannu kottadu anukondi, aa emundi chala mandi without reason mundu debbalu thinnaru, manam kooda anthe ani oorukuntama, defend chesukuntama? Meeru cheppina dani prakaram you should be happy with everything in the world, coz that is not the first bad thing happening. I am only verbally opposing a school of thought right. Caste system support chesevallu andaru kattagattukuni dookali anatledu gaa? And that too because key board chetilo undi, konchem free time undi kabatti typing. I am no control of the war in Iraq, right leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Venkateswarlu Comedian Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 1085 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 99.191.241.241 Rating: N/A |
Mama.. Discrimination ki Seggregation ki difference undi anukuntaa.. Seggregate cheshi discriminate cheshina history manadi.. kaadantaavaa? Ledoo, prathee society lo ee rendoo jeriginai ani anukuni flo lo falo aipodaamaa? Falo aipodaamu ante endu ee topic ni laagi saagadeesi discoing settunnavu.. ninnatsandi..  In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1842 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: |
IR maama, nannu dobbutunnaavaa??? or you really meant to ask that question.......discrimination anedi untooney untadi....opportunities andariki raavu..........may be for reason x or y or z....... hope you are not pulling my leg....sare, serious topic pichcha bore kodutundi.......ur questions are already answered......may be I will try to answer again later.........but it would be nice if you can think through each of the posts below...... oka pani cheyyi....try to answer today's civilized world.....US lo untunnaav the best country....why are they bombimg the life out of infants in Iraq?....and for someone who thinks caste system has caused opportunity costs and not able to bear the idea that such a system existed........how come you are part of US and eating the food stained with the blood of those infants....how come there are so many atrocities and non-sense in today's world?...... more later........vjavasi, idemi dobbudu raaja......thread vesthaav....nuvvu dobbesthaav......."Anjali" lo seema tapakayalu, dabbaalu kattina pichchi paapa laaga nenu jumping ikkada...... | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 3115 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: |
What you say is different from, not allowing somebody to do something in the name of customs, or promoting social harmony, order etc. I do not understand what is not practical about it. You are not forcing kids to be raised same here. Oka kid ni ela raise cheyali anedi aa parents ishtam. Kani custom, family profession, caste, nuvvu idi mathrame cheyali, idi cheyakudadu ani anatam stupidity. Asalu parents ye valla professional interests pillala meeda force cheyakudadu ani accept chestunnamu. alantidi customs, caste perutho society evaru force cheyataniki?
Yes ,a handicapped guy is a handicapped guy. But what if the society restricts him from going to school, or learning because of this? A guy because of his genes, and intelligence, may not be able to clear a test, may not be able to withstand a course, but the society cannot bar him from taking the exam/course or try for it. What the varna system does is the latter. leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1841 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
>>>> malla pplsck kurrod edho advaitha antadu evariki ardham kani bhashalo.... >>>>>>>>>. that was a joke referring to M_S post....that people here don't allow him to say good/bad about any subject without branding him...... >>>> then he realized any form of eating meat is an animal instinct and started to have tofu. >>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah right....people stopped eating meat now.......they are so civilized that they stopped grouping and you cannot classify people saying they are rich, these are poor, some are criminal, some are wise and some are otherwise.... idi kaadule gaani nuvvu batman story continue cheyyi naa maata vini......oka dumbfucker who created a caste ani evil character okati pettu......neeku nenu "Maya - The Matrix" sodi koduthoo untaanu..... | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1840 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: |
>>>>> Same bapan kurrodini puttina next roju nunde kattelu kotte vadi intlo penchite kooda anthena? Difficult for me to get this. >>>>>>>>>> the question is can we do that in reality? can it work practically?.......if you think all people irrespective of where they are born, shud be given same opportunity/conditions........then lets have kids in a common shelter/place or something like that and raise everyone's kids at the same place......with same food, same everything.......... can we do that?....if not, then kids are discriminated by nature and they have to grow up with their conditions and the family they were born into....... if we force all kids to be raised same, I think humans will lose all interest in kids and hopes on them....and with out hope, I am not sure how long the humans can continue to exist.... again exceptions ni pakkana petti systems maatlaadudaam.... >>>>>>>>>>> By birth, andaru equal kadu. Yes, very true, that is the way of nature. Ala ani should we discriminate somebody because he is handicapped, crippled, or has some disease?, due to some genetic defect? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether you discriminate or not......a guy who is handicapped is handicapped......a guy who is born into brahmin family with thug qualities is a thug......his family might try to project him in the best possible way....... even if you put all the lipstick on the pig, a pig is a pig is a pig..... | ||
| Venkateswarlu Comedian Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 1079 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 99.191.241.241 Rating: |
Seggregation in its worst form anukuntaa.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Iamim Side Hero Username: Iamim Post Number: 3989 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170 Rating: N/A |
Yeah.. I do have an agenda.. else wont be wasting my time in DBs.. But.. what about your agenda.. just does not stay hidden howsoever you try.. your fickle inconsistency.. consistent hypocrisy.. is simply startling.. Caste is Bad.. but.. Reservation is Good.. Caste is Bad.. but.. Intercaste mobility is Good.. Caste is Bad.. but.. Brahmans in Sulabh is Good.. Open hatred is better than hidden hatred... | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 19795 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.100.28.147 Rating: N/A |
chathur varna philosophy provides as much humor as chathurn lingam from 3 idiots.....anthakantey dhani value nill....dhanni inni rojulu follow iyyi inga avuthunnaru antey gorrela mandha kantey ghoram..... Long long ago man used to eat raw meat just like animal tharwatha civilize iyyi he became a man and started cooking it and then he realized any form of eating meat is an animal instinct and started to have tofu....so evolution annattu...to become civilized....metamorphosis of a cave man to a civilized man....like metamorphosis from coke to camino;).. So long long ago when man was like an animal he introduced this caste system where humans are selected as dogs or horses for breeding....inga dheenni attukuni super process antey dhentho navvalo ardham kadhu....malla pplsck kurrod edho advaitha antadu evariki ardham kani bhashalo.... common sense tho appraoch cheyyalsina subject ki e=mc2 formula esthey ittta thagaladathadhi anukuntanu nenu....kiki | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3094 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.88.234.149 Rating: N/A |
Bingo. Couldn't say it better. That's my opinion on this topic. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 3114 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Same bapan kurrodini puttina next roju nunde kattelu kotte vadi intlo penchite kooda anthena? Difficult for me to get this. By birth, andaru equal kadu. Yes, very true, that is the way of nature. Ala ani should we discriminate somebody because he is handicapped, crippled, or has some disease?, due to some genetic defect? leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1839 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
ikkada andaru advaitha philospohy followers :-).....only yes/no accepted..........duality of nature antey padademo......... No worries....reading my previous post, does the classification at birth looks outright stupid or devilish? | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 3172 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
pplsuck bro, looks like we are on the same page here, i have nothing against caste system, to me it seems like a naturally evolved system, whether created deliberately or formed by as extension to the natural system. issue with these arguments is, you can have only one stand, i fail to understand the reasons behind it. It appears as though if you say you do not like a certain aspect in the caste system as we see today, it is extrapolated in a way that you are against caste system. If you say caste system has it advantages, people take it as though you approve everything related to it. to me it is a huge system, and my stand is different based on each topic on the system. It would be better if we can discuss based on the topic, rather than the poster. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1836 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
>>>> i perfectly understand from where you are coming, like i said yesterday, the arguments are in too many directions, and i am choosing only one of the arguments. My posts in this topic are related only to point out birth is not the only critieria for a caste. I am not responding to any of the other arguments, as it would take much more of my time, and also confuse everyone. >>>>>>>>>> good one.......please understand that I am not supporting the atrocities in name of caste or I think hinduism is the best....let it go to hell if it can't survive the demands of everyday life.......I don't subscribe to any groups (hehehe.......not even in my orkut profile)........but the thing is, there is no point rushing to conclusion without understanding it........people blame caste system, and how it is the reason for hinduism downfall........who knows what the exact reason is??.......lets us understand it as we know it.... let us first understand the rules before jumping to exceptions......there are always outliers in any system......and systems are mostly built on rules rather than built to address exceptions...... lets get back to the nature......Nature discriminates everyone right at their birth..........with 100% rate of incidence, right in front of our eyes.....right/wrong pakkana pedithey, can we accept this truth? second thing is, law of inheritance......like what vja said......exceptions pakkana pedithey or even going by Anand's eugenics.........after a period of time, offsprings of certain people develop certain genes at birth.......bapan kurrodini kattelu kottuku raaraa antey, kothimera kattalu pattukosthaadu...........:-) one more thing is.....get back to old times......when the system was in place......there were no daycares/KG and infra that is available now.....a brahmin kid spending all time with his parents gets a chance to learn from his parents........ again is this right way to classify people? I dunno.........but does it look devilish?.....I doubt it.....it rather looks so natural to accept the fact that people get discriminated for whatever reason.........now I ain't explaining it saying poorva janma and crap........I can only talk about what I can see..... but classification by birth doesn't look so totally out of place.......and bottom line is, whether at birth or later, classification has to happen...and it will always happen......... there will be Batmans and there will be Shobhan baabus......but why is "Neo" the chosen one antey.........may be bcoz Der/Elca were not really interested.....who knows.... | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 3167 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
pplsuck bro, i perfectly understand from where you are coming, like i said yesterday, the arguments are in too many directions, and i am choosing only one of the arguments. My posts in this topic are related only to point out birth is not the only critieria for a caste. I am not responding to any of the other arguments, as it would take much more of my time, and also confuse everyone. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Pplsuck Comedian Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 1834 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178 Rating: N/A |
Guys, if we can take one step at a time....it will be much easier to get some clarity.......Now I wonder what that guy vivekadhara had to go through to explain things to people........Im not even sure whether patience is a virtue..... iraggotti chepthey chakkagaa ardham chesukuntaaru.......konchem manchigaa untey, OT laanti batch vachchi agenda running.......oka saari antukuney aatalo mammalni antukoledu.........discrimination antaadu..........inkokasaari, memanthaa royals....kaakateeya royals antaadu......... I understand his stance....and whatever you say he will continue that line............he can't dare to look for the truth.......or else kattukunna peka medalu koolipothaayi.........ignore his crap filled with agenda and lets get on this topic one step at a time..........if anything, pray that you can be born as sudra in any life.....they get the best of all worlds all the time.... now, what part of caste system poses the problem? 1) classification of people? 2) birth based importance? 3) discrimination against some? 4) atrocities against dalits 5) abuse of the system by those who are at the top? all those with too many questions/accusations, slow down a little and read your post once again before coming out with your "what-you-think-is" blazing guns..... | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 3166 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
bro, you have not considered the entire sloka, here it goes catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah tasya kartaram api mam viddhy akartaram avyayam "According to the three modes of material nature and the work associated with them, the four divisions of human society are created by Me. And although I am the creator of this system, you should know that I am yet the non doer, being unchangeable." None of the above scriptural statements mention birth as the only qualification. This is also confirmed by the sruti in the Vajrasucika Upanisad of the Sama Veda. consider the story of satyakama jabala, satyakamo ha jabalo jabalam mataram amantrayam cakre brahmacaryam bhavati vivatsyami kim gotro'ham asmiti sa hainam uvaca- naham etad veda tata yad gotras tvam asi bahvaham caranti paricarini yauvane tvam alabhe saham etan na veda yad gotras tvam asi jabala tu nam-aham asmi satyakamo nama tvam asi sa satyakama eva jabalo bravitha iti sa ha haridrumatam gautamam etyovaca- brahmacaryam bhagavati vatsyamy-upeyam bhagavantam iti tam hovaca- kim gotro nu somyasiti sa hovaca - naham etad veda bho yad gotro'ham asmyaprccham mataram sa ma pratyabravid bahvaham caranti paricarini yauvane tvam alabhe saham etan na veda yad gotras tvam asi jabala tu nam-aham asmi satyakamo nama tvam asiti so'ham satyakamo jabalo'smi bho iti tam hovaca- naitad abrahmano vivaktum arhati samidham saumyaharopa tva nesye na satyadaga iti Once, Satyakama, the son of Jabala, asked his mother, 'I want to live as a brahmacari. Which gotra do I belong to?' Jabala answered, 'My son, I do not know which dynasty you belong to; in my youth I served as a midservant in various places and at that time begot you as my son. Therefore I don't know which gotra you belong to. My name is Jabala and your name is Satyakama. Therefore you should say that your name is Satyakama Jabala.' Thereafter Satyakama Jabala approached Haridrumata Gautama and said, 'I wish to live with you as a brahmacari.' Gautama replied, 'O gentle one, which gotra do you belong to?' Satyakama replied, ' I do not know which gotra I belong to. I askd my mother and she said, 'I begot you as my son when I was wandering in my youth as a maidservant. Therefore I do not know which gotra you belong to. My name is Jabala and your name is Satyakama. So I am called Satyakama Jabala.' Gautama then said to him, 'My dear son, no one other than a brahmana can speak such truth that you have spoken. Therefore you are a brahmana, and I accept you. O gentle one, go and bring wood for sacrifice.' Jabala replied, 'I am going right now to bring wood.' Gautama said, 'Never divert from the truth.' Now in the story of jabala, though born to a non brahmana mother, was accepted as a brahmana. there are many other stories where varna has changed for subsequent kin by a person who has changed his varna dharma. noted one's are Visvamitra, son of Maharaja gadhi. Maharaja Vitahavya is one other kshathriya who chose to become a brahmana in mahabaratha. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Telugubabu Comedian Username: Telugubabu Post Number: 1359 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 71.56.33.118 Rating: N/A |
new caste system. only 4 castes. caste 1 : vegitarian forward caste (brahmin,vysya etc) caste 2 : non vegetarian forward caste (reddy,kamma,kapu,velama,raju etc) caste 3 : backward castes (goud,yadav, chehti vruttulu castes etc) caste 4 : scheduled castes and tribes (mala,madiga, girijana etc) non veg eating brahmin,vysya belongs to caste 2 and veg eating reddy,kamma belongs to caste 1. so simple. Expect nothing, live frugally on surprise. | ||
| Jalsa Moderator Username: Jalsa Post Number: 11952 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
entha opika annai neeku. ippudey motham chadivaanu. baundhi. | ||
| Vdolby Junior Artist Username: Vdolby Post Number: 13 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 192.131.85.210 Rating: N/A |
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| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2135 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: |
Sorry Dbers who participated in yestrday's thread on caste, i couldn't reply to your posts since i am currently in IST, sorry if i touched raw nerves of some Dbers, my intention was to initiate healthy discussion on caste which is very much ingrained in our psychie at different levels. I would like to express my views on some of the questions raised in yesteday's discussion,i formed my opinions based on some shlokhas in gita, commenteries on them by exalted personalities and my current experience. I personally choose not to go beyond gita and i don't have any issues if somebody doesn't agree with these my experiences 1) i have number of traits, habits, emotions, and even thoughts that match my parents 2) I felt members of certain group(caste,religious,regional,linguistic) have some common characteistics, my observation is not limited to india gita shlokhas 1) chatur varnam maya srishtam guna karma vibhagasaha Comment: this shlokha means krishna created chatur varna based on guna and karma,gunas are three (sattva,rajo,tamo)i feel in most cases these gunas or nature are also inherited. In the present context(kaliyuga) this is valid only in a particular family not to a caste since gunas are mixed. But in previous yugas these gunas were not that much mixed, one particular guna was active in one section of population. so the differences and nature of population were visible and dsitiguishble..Why is it so?..i will try to explain in next shlokha 2) i don't have sanskrit shloka but i remember hearing these lines in ghantasala commentary on gita sanakasa nandanadulu swayambuhvadi manuvulu na vallane janmincharu pimmata vaari vallana sakala srushti janminchindhi Comment: the above shlokha says all important people behind creation came into existence because of him, also in some other shlokha he says he taught all knowledge to surya(sun god) we all know the ruling dynasties mentioned in scriptures not only in india but in other parts of the world had their roots in surya and chandra, these dynasties inherited knowledge from surya or chandra. so from the beginning some were more previleged than rest. since they were choosen people by surya or chandra their guna composition was best and it shouldn't surprise anybody if certain qualities were passed down through the generations. I am referring to beginning of this cycle of creation so everything was black and white, some had best guna composition with previleged knowledge and they were the choosen to lead the rest. Bootomline is knowledge was passed down through choosen people. I don't believe the theory that we started dumb and gradually we evolved to current so called super intelligent beings. Even current scientific knowledge has its roots in greek and latin civilization,philosophy and technology 3) another shlokha says 'swadharme nidhanam shreyaha para dharmo bhayavahaha' daaniki ghantasa commentry chakkaga anustimpa badina para dharmamu kanna gunamu lenidhi aina swadharmame melu, atti dharmacharanamu valana mokshamu labinchuchunnadi Comment: the above shlokha means it's better to do one's own duty even if it is not glamorous than going after something which is not yours. For example i am trained in some engineering, it took 22 yeras of my life to become an engineer, now if i want to become a doctor can I? even if i go through the learning process once again can i become a good professional doctor? psycologically i became an engineer when i graduated and worked as an engineer. If this is the case with professions that are related at some level, what about professions that are not related at all. In my post yesterday i mentioned spiritual technologies that need a medium of sattvic consciousness to operate, current gross material technologies are independent of consciousness, to illustrate what spiritual technologies mean let me give an example In Ramayana Vishwamitra transfers most of the spiritual weapon technology to both rama and lakshmana but transfers knowledge of a particular weapon only to rama, can we say he discriminated lakshmana?, so gunas and consciousness play a vital role to transfer spiritual technology, one should be qualified to receive that technology Since a paticular life style and gunas were required to transfer that knowledge, privileged few who were part of that life style received that knowledge. Suppose if an agriculturist son want to get vedic knowledge of priests, what would be his age when the idea creeps in, he should atleast be in his teens, will he be qualified if certain lifestyle is required from a very early age? even if he is qualified at that age can he maintain required lifestyle thereafter without any support from family members. So it was logical for them to continue in the professions of their forefathers. Present Situation in kaliyuga; There is no varna system now if we go by vedic standards, In india the gunas are mixed up in the population and currently no paricular guna dominates significantly an individual or a group, all of us are following and performing duties that doesn't rely on gunas,i don't even relate performance in math and other sciences to sattvic nature. So practically at present anybody can excel in any occupations irrespective of their lifestyle provided they get some training from a early age My views on Future I feel this widespread availability of freedom of choice irrespective of father's or family profession will not last longer, it's directly dependent on current strutures which in turn run on gas,coal and other energy resources, In future after a big war and destruction of current structures God(or nature) through sun or moon will again select leaders at all levels, there could be regrouping or reorientation of humanity PS: Thanks for kamal, Humpty_Dumpty,pplSuck, M_S,Ishan,Rowdy, Kish,partha, Anand, IndiaRocks, maverick, OT and others who participated in yesterday's discussion |
