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Cocanada
Moderator Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 19252 Registered: 01-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 11:36 am: |
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I dont think anyone was denied based on the caste In order to receive spiritual education, the requirement is that the student shall not take tamasik foods like meat / alcohol And guru should be convinced of the student's jigyasa and respect towards wisdom Obviously it was easy for brahmins. But the others were never denied of education just because they are not born in upper caste |
   
Pplsuck
Comedian Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 1805 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 11:34 am: |
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>>>>>>>>> so is it painful now that the rule of nature is not respected in terms of the treatment being given to the so called strong of yesterday? why don't we apply the same to all that is being done today and just get on with it? why raise a hue and cry when any1 dictates terms? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aa topic kooda cover chesaa kadaa humpty....see below from my previous response.... Rule of nature anyday.....only thing is those who subscribe to it needs to understand that may be nature wants it this way in today's world........the path to salvation is to try and get stronger..........cribbing doesn't make you any different from those shouting at the top of their voice for reservations or love to call themselves weak (of course blame is "my being weak is someone else's fault" or else its hard to live with alms from others...)..........now if you understand that, don't blame nobody for your sorry state.......it doesn't take you too far.... |
   
Pplsuck
Comedian Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 1804 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 11:32 am: |
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>>>>> if upper castes whine about how they are being robbed off their opportunities, they are stronger no more, they are loosing out on the struggle. >>>>>>>>>> Der, now get that ingrained in your mind......."Maa thaathala kaalam lo nethulu taagaam...maa moothula vaasana choodandi"..........anadam maanesthey, that energy can be put into right direction..........or this is how nature works and this is the end of hindu/brahman culture like all those pagan religions...... Work towards the goal or losers can whine away all their lives........ |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 3102 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 11:31 am: |
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Humpty_dumpty:people who likes being different and "Intellectual".........has to believe in today's different world of fairness and yesterday's wrongdoings..........or else the story doesn't sell......
we all root for the under dogs, that is how the weaker get stronger, and the stronger get weaker. I see it is a cycle, as one group gets weaker, sympathizers grow for that group, and slowly this group gets stronger. Once stronger, the new weaker group will get its set of sympathizers. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 6373 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 11:26 am: |
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@Pplsuck good to see you getting the innocence part. //.it is always like this....the strong gets to dictate the weak almost all the time// so is it painful now that the rule of nature is not respected in terms of the treatment being given to the so called strong of yesterday? why don't we apply the same to all that is being done today and just get on with it? why raise a hue and cry when any1 dictates terms? |
   
Pplsuck
Comedian Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 1803 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 11:24 am: |
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>>>> life aint fair, and it need not be. >>>>>>>>>>>> there you go......perfecto.... but then, people who are already rich and powerful or aspiring to be rich/powerful with the status quo..........or people who likes being different and "Intellectual".........has to believe in today's different world of fairness and yesterday's wrongdoings..........or else the story doesn't sell...... |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 3101 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 11:18 am: |
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New_user:"its the rule of nature.....the strongets dominates...either in jungle or others...mana okka dourbhagyapu society lo mathram....evadu ulfa gaadu paiki rakapothe inkodu tokkesaru ani edchi....aadi kodukulaku reservations ivvalata... "
dont worry its still the case, the illusion of who is strong is just in our minds. if the lower strata are controlling the life's of upper strata, it only means they are stronger now, either you man up and deal with it or can whine about it. life aint fair, and it need not be. if upper castes whine about how they are being robbed off their opportunities, they are stronger no more, they are loosing out on the struggle. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Pplsuck
Comedian Username: Pplsuck
Post Number: 1802 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.239.247.178
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 11:14 am: |
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Rule of nature anyday.....only thing is those who subscribe to it needs to understand that may be nature wants it this way in today's world........the path to salvation is to try and get stronger..........cribbing doesn't make you any different from those shouting at the top of their voice for reservations or love to call themselves weak (of course blame is "my being weak is someone else's fault" or else its hard to live with alms from others...)..........now if you understand that, don't blame nobody for your sorry state.......it doesn't take you too far.... >>>> India was/is not a land of barbaric tribes where you can expect this survival of fittest concept. >>>>>>>>>>>>> dude, I might be wrong, but you spit out a load of crap or you are soooooooooooooo innocent that you look ridiculously cute.............. take away which group/caste the people belong to.....look in terms of strong and weak.......it is always like this....the strong gets to dictate the weak almost all the time.............open your eyes for a bit and look around........in your most sophisticated, civilized, utopian today's world......but the beauty of today's world is you don't even realize it is like it has always been.......BTW, you live in USA who likes a democracy in Iraq....... |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 6371 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 11:11 am: |
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//so, if you cant enter a temple, your learning will stop// in a typical village, how many avenues of education were there during those times? street lights kindha chaduvu concept was way later in the day. |
   
Parthasaradhi
Junior Artist Username: Parthasaradhi
Post Number: 834 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 160.254.20.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 11:09 am: |
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Maverick:this more or less started like cleanliness
Here cleanliness does not refer to just physical but also mental.. |
   
Cocanada
Moderator Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 19250 Registered: 01-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 11:05 am: |
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Humpty_dumpty:I believe being born in different strata of the society should not subject one to such measures where you are not supposed to enter premises of places of worship. Till date this problem has not been eradicated
so, if you cant enter a temple, your learning will stop??? |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 6369 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 11:00 am: |
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@mav I agree with your reasoning 100%. All I can ask is, when it took the caste angle, what were the custodians doing? |
   
Maverick
Hero Username: Maverick
Post Number: 14623 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 10:55 am: |
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Humpty_dumpty:I believe being born in different strata of the society should not subject one to such measures where you are not supposed to enter premises of places of worship.
Humpty, this more or less started like cleanliness and it took a wrong direction..suppose if u have a pooja room in ur house will u directly get into that room after coming from rest room..snanam chesi veldam anukuntaru kada..this is similar to that which took caste angle |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 6368 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 10:50 am: |
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@coke culturally - religion is a big part of the the Hindu life and it has always been I believe being born in different strata of the society should not subject one to such measures where you are not supposed to enter premises of places of worship. Till date this problem has not been eradicated. Generations have been deprived of opportunities in the name of untouchability and this includes education. economically - you are right. The ruling lords of the land could have had a say in which part of the society progresses. If you deprive people of owning land , cut down their resource usage how can you expect them to uplift themselves. India was/is not a land of barbaric tribes where you can expect this survival of fittest concept. As a civilization, we have come a long from the that. I wonder how many from the culturally rich or economically ruling communities manned up, instead of playing the hot potato. |
   
Parthasaradhi
Junior Artist Username: Parthasaradhi
Post Number: 832 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 160.254.20.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 10:33 am: |
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wrong bemmi icon. It is supposed to be
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Parthasaradhi
Junior Artist Username: Parthasaradhi
Post Number: 831 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 160.254.20.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 10:32 am: |
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Thunder:ninnu M meeda matti la teesi paresadu
eppudoo vinale ee saametha
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Cocanada
Moderator Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 19249 Registered: 01-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 10:31 am: |
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Humpty_dumpty:being robbed culturally and economically
culturally robbed? explain pls economic exploitation ante enti aa rojullo slavery? who can implement slavery? |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 6364 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 10:10 am: |
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//the anger of suppression is justified but it is not pointed at the right the right direction.// The anger takes it roots from being robbed culturally and economically...no need to say who were the barons of cultural and economical institutions. and this rule of nature ...what a load of BS! |
   
Cocanada
Moderator Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 19247 Registered: 01-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 10:01 am: |
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Dharmam:Tokki paradobbi
thokkindhi evaro oka saari alochinchandi brahmins never have/had the muscle to suppress anyone. It was only khshatriya castes that exploited lower castes the anger of suppression is justified but it is not pointed at the right the right direction. |
   
Dharmam
Comedian Username: Dharmam
Post Number: 1490 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 206.16.32.136
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 12:16 am: |
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Der_schuler:neeku ishtam vachindhi anuko...I care a hoot for ur intrepratation.....nuvvu malli civilized society gurinchi kaburlu seppaku.....nee definitions need deggara pettukuni Jai NTR anu...kiki
Tokki paradobbi rule of nature. Slavery kuda antena Hacker kurrodu malli tirugutunnadu jagartha |
   
Thunder
Hero Username: Thunder
Post Number: 10963 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 58.179.154.242
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 10:33 pm: |
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New_user:Mogaltur lo, Palakollu lo janam, Mega ki chesaina danni, M meeda matti la theesipadeyyadatam antaru. Ki ki ki...
mari sendra babu ntr ni seppulatho kottinchina danni yemantaru  Kondani chusi kukkalu morugutunnayi! |
   
New_user
Side Hero Username: New_user
Post Number: 9404 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.232.128.10
Rating:  Votes: 5 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 09:07 pm: |
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"nuvvu kalling sesinode ninnu M meeda matti la teesi paresadu," Contradict chesa kabatti, Der ki baga kalindi. Danni theesi padeyyadam anaru. Mogaltur lo, Palakollu lo janam, Mega ki chesaina danni, M meeda matti la theesipadeyyadatam antaru. Ki ki ki...  Khan Dada - Chiru. Manikyam - Pans. |
   
Thunder
Hero Username: Thunder
Post Number: 10961 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 58.179.154.242
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 09:05 pm: |
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New_user:
post padatam late ayyindi grps helping aa  Kondani chusi kukkalu morugutunnayi! |
   
New_user
Side Hero Username: New_user
Post Number: 9403 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.232.128.10
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 09:03 pm: |
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"andhuke elli alla madhya undhi seva cheyyi ....nuvvu nee tokkalo sukthi mukthavali....antha jaali gunde unna vadivi ...aa pani chesi...tarvatha nee sahrudaya kaburlu cheppu vini" Baga kalina vasana vasthundi, ki ki ki. Cheyyadam ledani, ela anukuntunnav. "memu kooda Jai NTR antam....." Nee toilet noti thona, vaddule. Kavalante oka pado parako padestha. Adedo cinemalo mantrallo, brahmanadam, sruthi kalipestadu, aa type lo enjoy cheyyi. Khan Dada - Chiru. Manikyam - Pans. |
   
Thunder
Hero Username: Thunder
Post Number: 10960 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 58.179.154.242
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 08:56 pm: |
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New_user:Antha easy ga ardham ayithe, PRPians enduku avutharu? Der ikkade unnadu ga, adugu.
okkasari arikaali baga gokkoni aalochinchi post seyyi, nuvvu kalling sesinode ninnu M meeda matti la teesi paresadu, inga nuvvu badhapadi ooogipoyyi battalsinchikoku Kondani chusi kukkalu morugutunnayi! |
   
Der_schuler
Side Hero Username: Der_schuler
Post Number: 5467 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 08:54 pm: |
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New_user:Note this point - Nuvvu nijam ga, oppressed dalit family lo putti unte, IIT kadu ga, ayido tharagathi kooda pass ayi undevadivi kadu. Anthati dourbhagya situation lo unnaru. Nuvvu vo egesukuni vallani kindal cheyyaku.
andhuke elli alla madhya undhi seva cheyyi ....nuvvu nee tokkalo sukthi mukthavali....antha jaali gunde unna vadivi ...aa pani chesi...tarvatha nee sahrudaya kaburlu cheppu vini memu kooda Jai NTR antam.....paiki elli ra po |
   
New_user
Side Hero Username: New_user
Post Number: 9402 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.232.128.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 08:51 pm: |
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Thunder Antha easy ga ardham ayithe, PRPians enduku avutharu? Der ikkade unnadu ga, adugu.
 Khan Dada - Chiru. Manikyam - Pans. |
   
Der_schuler
Side Hero Username: Der_schuler
Post Number: 5466 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 08:48 pm: |
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New_user:
neeku ishtam vachindhi anuko...I care a hoot for ur intrepratation.....nuvvu malli civilized society gurinchi kaburlu seppaku.....nee definitions need deggara pettukuni Jai NTR anu...kiki |
   
Thunder
Hero Username: Thunder
Post Number: 10958 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 58.179.154.242
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 08:46 pm: |
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New_user:Pan ga malla porapatu paddav,
kinda nallaga undemo okkasari soosukova please
New_user:Reservations topic meeda aa statement vadiladu.
reservation thread lone overall ga 500 years ga choosukunte ani cheppadu, ante kaani ippudu tokkeddam ani specific ga cheppaledu, nee biscuts aapu manchi doctor ni kaluvu anni sardukuntayi sontha vaidyam sesukunte idigo ittage untadi Kondani chusi kukkalu morugutunnayi! |
   
New_user
Side Hero Username: New_user
Post Number: 9399 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.232.128.10
Rating:  Votes: 11 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 08:41 pm: |
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Thunder Der, 500 years old concept ani kadu cheppindi. Reservations topic meeda aa statement vadiladu. Pan ga malla porapatu paddav, prajale pilicharu type lo. Srija - Inedependent Lady.
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Johnny_quest
Junior Artist Username: Johnny_quest
Post Number: 590 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 65.188.177.45
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 08:39 pm: |
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New_user:
Doc garu ayanaki Hitler pattindhi NENU matrame Gopppaa syndrome |
   
Thunder
Hero Username: Thunder
Post Number: 10956 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 58.179.154.242
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 08:38 pm: |
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New_user:the strongets dominates...either in jungle or others
context 500 years back di cheppadu, nuvvu ippudu civilized society ani chinchukovadam anavasaram anukunta Kondani chusi kukkalu morugutunnayi! |
   
New_user
Side Hero Username: New_user
Post Number: 9398 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.232.128.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 08:34 pm: |
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"its the rule of nature.....the strongets dominates...either in jungle or others...mana okka dourbhagyapu society lo mathram....evadu ulfa gaadu paiki rakapothe inkodu tokkesaru ani edchi....aadi kodukulaku reservations ivvalata... " Emi matladuthunnav thammi. Rule of nature ani - Jews meeda Hitler, Native people meeda Americans chesinavanni, correct ani thelechesava? Rule of nature anukunte, aadavalla meeda, chinna pillala meeda crime, OK naa. Manam undedi civilized society lo, weaker sections ki protection ivvali. Note this point - Nuvvu nijam ga, oppressed dalit family lo putti unte, IIT kadu ga, ayido tharagathi kooda pass ayi undevadivi kadu. Anthati dourbhagya situation lo unnaru. Nuvvu vo egesukuni vallani kindal cheyyaku. Srija - Inedependent Lady.
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