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Ishan
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Post Number: 2906 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.169.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 12:26 pm: |
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Iamim: Such were the people involved with that...
Now we know the secret don't we? Scholars brainwashed rulers. Rulers implemented impeccably. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Iamim
Side Hero Username: Iamim
Post Number: 3855 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 12:13 pm: |
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Ishan: Too bad too worst lines avi...
That movie 'Meena' was the first film Directed by Vijaya Nirmala.. Arudra was Nephew of Sri Sri.. Such were the people involved with that... |
   
Ishan
Side Hero Username: Ishan
Post Number: 2903 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.169.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 12:07 pm: |
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Iamim: Malleteega vantidi maguva jeevitham... Challani pandiri vunte.. allukupoyenu.. allukupoyenu...||M|| Charanam:1 Tallitandrula muddumuripem.. chinnatanamlo kavali... Illaliki pati anuragam.. yellakalam nilavali... Talliki pillala aadarana.. pandu vayasulo kavali... Aadavariki annivelala.. todu needa vundali... ||M|| Charanam:2 Nuduta kumkuma kalakalalade sudathe intiki sobha... Pillapapala premato penche talle aarani jyothi... Anuraagamto manasunu doche pathiye mamatala panta... Janmanu ichi jathini nilipe jananiye jagathiki aadharam... ||M||
Too bad too worst lines avi... ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Iamim
Side Hero Username: Iamim
Post Number: 3853 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 11:57 am: |
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Guttonkay:I think the best option is to men get pregnant once in a while. The world's population will be half of what it is now. But I don't think god is listening to me when he is planing his creations :-))
As middle eastern religions say.. perhaps God is a Male..  |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3852 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 11:29 am: |
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Netsaint:Initial days was Mother side undedi... later it was tuned to Patriachal
In Kerala Brahman families only the eldest son married a Brahman girl.. other sons married Nair girls.. such Nair girls had other husbands too as they practiced polyandry.. Feminists should have been happy with polyandry.. as they were in control.. but strangely no.. so.. that system was banned.. Today Kerala also is firmly Patriarchal.. only areas left behind are places like Meghalaya which are crying for Patriarchy.. Perhaps females never want to take control.. after all its such a big burden... Here is a beautiful song about feminine qualities.. written by communist.. atheist.. Arudra.. Pallavi: Malleteega vantidi maguva jeevitham... Challani pandiri vunte.. allukupoyenu.. allukupoyenu...||M|| Charanam:1 Tallitandrula muddumuripem.. chinnatanamlo kavali... Illaliki pati anuragam.. yellakalam nilavali... Talliki pillala aadarana.. pandu vayasulo kavali... Aadavariki annivelala.. todu needa vundali... ||M|| Charanam:2 Nuduta kumkuma kalakalalade sudathe intiki sobha... Pillapapala premato penche talle aarani jyothi... Anuraagamto manasunu doche pathiye mamatala panta... Janmanu ichi jathini nilipe jananiye jagathiki aadharam... ||M|| |
   
Gandhiguevara
Side Hero Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 5250 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.130.92.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:09 pm: |
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Iamim:
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Iamim
Side Hero Username: Iamim
Post Number: 3850 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:06 pm: |
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What is PIN.. What is PAN.. What is SSN.. What is last 4 digits SSN.. What is Mother's maiden name.. What is Sister's married name.. What is Daughter's virgin name.. What is Father's name.. What is Mother's name.. What is Domicile.. What is Nativity.. What is Passport.. What is Visa.. What is Temp Address.. What is Perm Address.. When birds and animals dont need all these.. why should a freedom loving Man need them.. Man is born free.. He is bound for life.. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 12426 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.140
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:44 pm: |
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Ishan:Any bigot who formulates and supports any custom that discriminates fellow humans is a threat to society.
Wikipedia:Society or human society is the set of relations among people, including their social status and roles. By extension, society denotes the people of a region or country, sometimes even the world, taken as a whole.[1] Used in the sense of an association, a society is a body of individuals outlined by the bounds of functional interdependence, possibly comprising characteristics such as national or cultural identity, social solidarity, language or hierarchical organization. Human societies are characterized by patterns of relationships between individuals sharing a distinctive culture and institutions. Like other communities or groups, a society allows its members to achieve needs or wishes they could not fulfill alone. A society, however, may be ontologically independent of, and utterly irreducible to, the qualities of constituent individuals; it may act to oppress. The urbanization and rationalization inherent in some, particularly Western capitalist, societies, has been associated with feelings of isolation and social "anomie". More broadly, a society is an economic, social or industrial infrastructure, made up of a varied collection of individuals. Members of a society may be from different ethnic groups. A society may be a particular ethnic group, such as the Saxons; a nation state, such as Bhutan; a broader cultural group, such as a Western society. The word society may also refer to an organized voluntary association of people for religious, benevolent, cultural, scientific, political, patriotic, or other purposes. A "society" may even, though more by means of metaphor, refer to a social organism such as an ant colony.
So, if somebody is trying to simply adhere to an order as part of a cohesive unit of humanity called society and I am not sure how can he be a threat. In anycase, I totally agree with this below ! Ishan:Rituals and ceremonies should augment the spiritual pursuit of a believer. The whole purpose of such karmas is to realize the presence of god in fellow human beings and the nature around us which takes us closer to god.
"Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Eluri_kurradu
Side Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu
Post Number: 8819 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.30.2.223
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:40 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:
ante blindly suffort istaru vayya ... vallu directly /indirectly discriminating others with their blind suffort .. Ante ishan kurradi argument ni konchem ila tippa |
   
Gandhiguevara
Side Hero Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 5242 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.130.92.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:36 pm: |
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Eluri_kurradu:party lines lonu support ichukune
uncle idhi thondi...party and political affiliations threat to society endhi...infact threat to society ento yee thread lo ne vundi |
   
Eluri_kurradu
Side Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu
Post Number: 8817 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.30.2.223
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:35 pm: |
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Ishan:Any bigot who formulates and supports any custom that discriminates fellow humans is a threat to society.
ikkada casset lineslo, party lines lonu support ichukune vallandaru kuda threat to society ani anukuntunna ... emantav? |
   
Netsaint
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Post Number: 2459 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:33 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:tholu
idont think so. let me tell you the fact, NRI ladies lo kooda inkaa MOODA nammakalu tho vunna vaalu chaala mandhi unnaru.... and remember they are in very high professions.. "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 5240 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.130.92.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:31 pm: |
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Netsaint:Ikkada aaa Objection cheppedhi koooooooooda LADIES ane manavi chekuntunnam
50 years tarvatha yee sitralu soodali ani vundi...ippudantha saduvukunna ammayilu...appudu ilaa chesthaam ante tholu teestham antaru |
   
Guttonkay
Side Hero Username: Guttonkay
Post Number: 3005 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 70.174.181.113
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:30 pm: |
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Ikkada aaa Objection cheppedhi koooooooooda LADIES ane manavi chekuntunnam ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- netsaint, I meant that as a rhetorical comment. You have to be a woman to understand a lot of stuff that she goes through. I am not saying men are not empathetic, but you won't have the appreciation unless u go thro that pain once or twice. I think the best option is to men get pregnant once in a while. The world's population will be half of what it is now. But I don't think god is listening to me when he is planing his creations :-)) |
   
Netsaint
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Post Number: 2456 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:29 pm: |
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Guttonkay:You have to be a woman to know how she feels when everyone else is given kunkuma and not her. You wear it all ur life, you are given kunkuma wherever u go and all that changes in one instant - when ur husband dies.
ayyo.. kaadhu, SAD icon for below post "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Netsaint
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Post Number: 2455 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:28 pm: |
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Guttonkay:You have to be a woman to know how she feels when everyone else is given kunkuma and not her. You wear it all ur life, you are given kunkuma wherever u go and all that changes in one instant - when ur husband dies.
Ikkada aaa Objection cheppedhi koooooooooda LADIES ane manavi chekuntunnam  "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Guttonkay
Side Hero Username: Guttonkay
Post Number: 3003 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 70.174.181.113
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:26 pm: |
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Ishan, society has to move forward in all aspects to the most possible extent. Our society seems to want to become westernized, booze, date and all that but when it comes to rituals at home it's all a status quo. we dont't give a $hit unless it affects us personally. Open ga, blatant ga ee old rituals of discrimating widows no oppose chese vallu inka raledu. You have to be a woman to know how she feels when everyone else is given kunkuma and not her. You wear it all ur life, you are given kunkuma wherever u go and all that changes in one instant - when ur husband dies. This is why I always say men have it easy - everything a man has to suffer is typically mental. Physcial ga ye pain ledu - batta tala vastundanna bhayam tappa :-) |
   
Ishan
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Post Number: 2891 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.169.11
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:17 pm: |
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Rituals and ceremonies should augment the spiritual pursuit of a believer. The whole purpose of such karmas is to realize the presence of god in fellow human beings and the nature around us which takes us closer to god. Any bigot who formulates and supports any custom that discriminates fellow humans is a threat to society. Discussions such as these makes one wonder if India needs a scientific education currently. Are we even ready for it? I think India needs education in anthropology, sociology, fundamentals of Hinduism and civic sense. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Telugu_times
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Post Number: 16493 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:16 pm: |
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Netsaint:
self imposing hardships nothing, compared to society imposed hardships. society, males meedha emi impose seyyadhu kadha? |
   
Guttonkay
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Post Number: 3000 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 70.174.181.113
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:15 pm: |
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adhi kooda oka hardship yena mahaprabhu? :-) |
   
Netsaint
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Post Number: 2452 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:13 pm: |
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Guttonkay:In the name of acharalu, we still make women go through lot of rituals - especially when it comes to losing her husbnad.
FATHER or MOTHER die aithe SON ke RITUALS haarsh ga vuntayi. They cannot celebrate 12 years any festivals or subhakaryams in old days. Later it reduced to 1 Year . For KOOTHURU its just 1 or 2 months..anthe.... mari SON(MALE) ee kadha.. he also undergoing hardships kadha...} "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Guttonkay
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Post Number: 2997 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 70.174.181.113
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:04 pm: |
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Equal rights for man and woman does not mean they have to suffer equally in terms of widowhood. They should both be able to lead and live a normal life, whenever they are ready to move on. Mana dikkumalina desam lo vithantuvu ayina a woman is a woman ane roju ravalante 25th century ravali. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 12424 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.140
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:01 pm: |
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Guttonkay:yeppudo evaro widows ayina ammayila manasulu physical things of the world meeda interest povalani mudhanashtapu rules pedite, 21st century lo kooda apasakunam, keedu ani manam follow avutunnam.
anduke antunna .. let the institution of marriage be the sole important thing and apply the same rules for a man as well. Not just a girl, why should a man remarry and enjoy a physical world, when he is bereaved of his partner? Afterall a partner is a partner for a man/woman ! Anyways .. I am out of the disco ! "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Stig
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Post Number: 639 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 99.183.243.239
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:00 pm: |
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 ------- Only seven people have looked The Stig straight in the eyes. They are all dead now !!
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Iamim
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Post Number: 3849 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:00 pm: |
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What is the ROI for upbringing a female.. Life long slavery to some kon kiska idiot male.. |
   
Guttonkay
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Post Number: 2995 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 70.174.181.113
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:56 pm: |
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I totally agree with you here. Even a man should be handled a similar treatment. ------------------------------------------------------------ --------- what is wrong with you guys? Your minds are all clouded. No one should get that kind of treatment. Husband or wife died does not make you half a human being somehow. If I am getting invitation to my hand before marriage, while I was married, then my husband dying should not change a thing. yeppudo evaro widows ayina ammayila manasulu physical things of the world meeda interest povalani mudhanashtapu rules pedite, 21st century lo kooda apasakunam, keedu ani manam follow avutunnam. shame on us. |
   
Telugu_times
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Post Number: 16491 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:54 pm: |
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Ishan
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Post Number: 2890 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.169.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:52 pm: |
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Iamim: Their duties are different.. thats it..
Well if you acknowledge that women also had duties to perform, then those duties must have overridden their emotions according to your logic making this sati as a non-emotional self-killing which in other words means nothing but murder. Iamim: If the world has come so far after millions of years..
huh? million years? ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Kamal
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Post Number: 12423 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.140
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:51 pm: |
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{Guttonkay,This not giving invitation to hand never happens to a windowed man.} I totally agree with you here. Even a man should be handled a similar treatment. "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3848 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:50 pm: |
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Mogudi kanna Malle poole ekkuva anukunte tappu ledu.. |
   
Guttonkay
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Post Number: 2994 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 70.174.181.113
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:50 pm: |
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Why should parents upbring females in the first place.. Why should parents even choose to give birth to females.. ------------------------------------------------------------ what kind of logic is this? Are you saying that b'coz there are idiot males out there parents should choose to NOT have the child if it's a female? |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3847 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:48 pm: |
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Anand_n:even today women are put thru the ordeal of ceremonies of widowhood and ostracism thereafter in the name of aacharam...
What is your take on ceremonies like marriage.. Why do you think a female should be Married.. It is this ceremony called Marriage that is the very mother root of all other ceremonies.. Why should females leave their home after Marriage.. Will females have any committment towards parents.. knowing fully right from birth that they dont really belong premanently in that place.. Should we blame females if they elope with their chosen ones after 20 years of upbringing by the parents.. Why should parents upbring females in the first place.. so that they have to give them away to some kon kiska idiot male.. with entire family at the beck and call of that kon kiska male for the rest of lives.. Why should parents even choose to give birth to females.. just to make them pawns in the game.. Isnt this all too complicated even to contemplate.. |
   
Guttonkay
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Post Number: 2992 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 70.174.181.113
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:43 pm: |
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when you think about the fact that a woman wears bindi from the time she is a baby and is always told to wear flowers in her jada and wear bangles, to tell her to remove all these just b'coz her husband died - it is really mind boggling. They did it once upon a time b'coz there was no remarriage for women - it wasn't okay, but it happened and so be it. kani, even in this day and age women who are widows - most of the ones in India anyway - don't wear glass bangles, only wear black bindi, don't wear flowers, aren't given a wedding invitation to hand. This not giving invitation to hand never happens to a windowed man. Who made these rules!? F*ing me off. |
   
Telugu_times
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Post Number: 16490 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:39 pm: |
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Guttonkay:aame vadinaluga idi maa badhyata
future lo, oka rupai ivvamantay.... manasoppadhu malleee, ee so called vadhinalaki |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 12422 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.140
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:33 pm: |
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Iamim:If the world has come so far after millions of years.. yeah.. its only coz millions of Men and Women were dutiful..
Extending the same logic, 'our' behavior, rather the lack of it, will make sure, the world will not see more than another 2 millenia at this hyperbolic stupidity. "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Guttonkay
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Post Number: 2991 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.136
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:33 pm: |
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In the name of acharalu, we still make women go through lot of rituals - especially when it comes to losing her husbnad. I suggested to someone recently to not do it. I said in this day and age why do this bottu teeseyyadam. I was more than shocked to hear the answer. One lady answered, idi cheyyakunte ammayi (the girl whose husband died) annalaki keedu jarugutundi. aame vadinaluga idi maa badhyata. Where the f these rules get made and twisted over generations I don't know. Not only that women are looked at differently when it comes to perantam, tambulam ivvatam, what can u do and not do at weddings etc. It's a shame really. |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3846 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:29 pm: |
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Ishan:Were all the men during those times so dutiful? Why it was determined that a woman's duty in this world ends when her husband dies?
Their duties are different.. thats it.. If the world has come so far after millions of years.. yeah.. its only coz millions of Men and Women were dutiful.. |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3845 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:24 pm: |
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Anand_n: Iamim: Yeah.. a Widow is Apa sakunam.. Iamim: Infact.. a widow is to be addressed only as 'Ganga Bhageerathi Samana'.. such is the status given to widows... And you do not see the contradiction there ?
No.. I do not see any contradiction.. As a single Brahman.. I myself am a walking Apa Sakunam.. why will I see any contradiction.. |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 5239 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 209.11.184.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 07:18 pm: |
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Kamal:there is no big difference between these in-house religious liberals and external religious extremists with other motives
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Kamal
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Post Number: 12400 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.140
Rating:  Votes: 9 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 06:45 pm: |
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Anand_n:I raised a very current issue - even today women are put thru the ordeal of ceremonies of widowhood and ostracism thereafter in the name of aacharam...pakka religions lo atyacharalani highlight chese vallu why are they not concerned or willing to raise a voice against the pain of these fellow hindu women in the name of aacharam ?
why do you mix customs and discrimination against women? and lastly ordeal anukune vaallu .. they do not have to follow whatever you feel they are being "put into" .. antha liberal freaks avasaram ledu .. society will deal with them in whatever way they want to !!! But you call me a male chauvinist .. let me tell you I am not one even in my dreams .. but if you want to take a hard stance and call me a religious conservative .. yes .. I am happy to be one ! and lastly .. who are the "they" that you are quoting here .. as far as I know .. most religious reform start from the right wings and they are the one who drive it to the masses if you are referring to them .. religious liberals are the ones who spoil the party .. who mislead people to go "away" from set way of living .. in the guise of addressing some issues .. Anand_n:There is saying "charity begins at home " .. mana illu chakka pettukoni pakkanolla gurinchi matladali.
Ofcourse .. people are on the same path .. unless you choose to ignore the reality .. and lastly .. there is no big difference between these in-house religious liberals and external religious extremists with other motives .. only their ways of operation differ .. so fighting liberals is not really fighting "our" people !!! "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 5235 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 209.11.184.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 06:33 pm: |
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Anand_n:There is saying "charity begins at home " .. mana illu chakka pettukoni pakkanolla gurinchi matladali. I raised a very current issue - even today women are put thru the ordeal of ceremonies of widowhood and ostracism thereafter in the name of aacharam...pakka religions lo atyacharalani highlight chese vallu why are they not concerned or willing to raise a voice against the pain of these fellow hindu women in the name of aacharam ? And no I did not know you used that quote on bottu - have seen that being used very frequently here ...
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Anand_n
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Post Number: 6989 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150
Rating:  Votes: 6 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 06:26 pm: |
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Iamim:Yeah.. a Widow is Apa sakunam..
Iamim:Infact.. a widow is to be addressed only as 'Ganga Bhageerathi Samana'.. such is the status given to widows...
And you do not see the contradiction there ? And I have a heard a different version on the Madri episode - where Kunti being elder is supposed to commit Sati and Madri takes her place...don't know which one is the accurate one. Kamal:but I simply dont fathom what makes these progressive souls ignore the brutality of the society towards women
There is saying "charity begins at home " .. mana illu chakka pettukoni pakkanolla gurinchi matladali. I raised a very current issue - even today women are put thru the ordeal of ceremonies of widowhood and ostracism thereafter in the name of aacharam...pakka religions lo atyacharalani highlight chese vallu why are they not concerned or willing to raise a voice against the pain of these fellow hindu women in the name of aacharam ? And no I did not know you used that quote on bottu - have seen that being used very frequently here ... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Ishan
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Post Number: 2881 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 03:25 pm: |
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Iamim:Is Vedanta science or philosophy??
Both. Iamim: Responsibilities lead to Duties.. Duties override emotions...
Were all the men during those times so dutiful? Why it was determined that a woman's duty in this world ends when her husband dies? ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Parthasaradhi
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Post Number: 786 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 160.254.20.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 03:08 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:
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Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 5217 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 209.11.184.1
Rating:  Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 03:01 pm: |
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Parthasaradhi:konni reasons valla adi kaavalsina avasaram aa rojullo vundemo.
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Parthasaradhi
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Post Number: 785 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 160.254.20.253
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:59 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:doraaa...annee telsu ani nenu eppudoo cheppaledu...kaani kochen cheyyakunda follow avvali ante elaa? vedas gurinchi evadu commenting chesadu...vaatini evariki kavalsina vidham gaa vaadu anvayinchukunnaru ane antunnaa...
Annai question cheyyalanna neeku min knowledge undali kadaa. lekapothe emani quesiton chestav.. question cheyyaali.manchide.. alaa question chestene improve avuddi. kaadananu. kaani neeku sincerity vundaali. adi lekundaa question cheste adi vimarsa avuddi. u know what i mean... Sati sati sati... adi ippudu ledu.. madyalo start ayindi...madyalo poyindi.. konni reasons valla adi kaavalsina avasaram aa rojullo vundemo. ippudu ledu. so poyinid.. inka daani gurunchi pedda discussion enduku ani naa meaning.. Annai idi huge system going on for ages.. Strengths and weaknesses common.. nuvvu better system develop cheyyagaligithe cheyyi. future generations follow avutay.. etantaav.. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 12356 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.140
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:53 pm: |
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Iamim: Just a few decades of decadent Materialism has vindicated.. that Mankind needs the constant fear.. power of unknown to tread the right path.. who else will instill that better.. than Nature itself...
exactly .. this is what is going to happen .. manishi ki unnna greed ki himalayas lo glaciers ee karigipotunnayi .. koncham atu itu teda tho andaru nature wrath choodalsinde .. kakapothe unfortunately .. material life ki subscribe avvani janta kooda anubhavinchaali .. ilanti vaalla tho untunnanduku !!! "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 5216 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 209.11.184.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:50 pm: |
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Parthasaradhi:Oka vela neeku telusu ani nuvvu ante discussion start cheddam. questions vastay mari kaasukovaali.
doraaa...annee telsu ani nenu eppudoo cheppaledu...kaani kochen cheyyakunda follow avvali ante elaa? vedas gurinchi evadu commenting chesadu...vaatini evariki kavalsina vidham gaa vaadu anvayinchukunnaru ane antunnaa... aina nenu vodduna koorchuni matladuthunna...victims ki telise bhada manaki theleedu Nenu sati lo live gaa burn kaledu...ye gudi lonu naa entry ni deny cheyyaledu...assam adivasi lani kotti natlu nannu kotta ledu...kanees matha durmadhandulu chesina baamb dhaadi lo chava ledu(atleast for now)... kaani ' I dont like you...but you have to fight my fight' anna padthati correct kaadu antunna |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3844 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:49 pm: |
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Ishan:Not true for Hinduism. None of the vedantha schools stress on the benefits of after life.
Is Vedanta science or philosophy??
Ishan:More responsibilities mean lesser emotional attachment?
Responsibilities lead to Duties.. Duties override emotions... |
   
Getafix
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Post Number: 5809 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:47 pm: |
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Iamim:Materialism has created many modern day Satis.. Funny thing.. no one even thinks about reforms.. Yeah.. economic reforms.. but.. no Cultural.. Philosophical.. Spiritual renaissance...
Cultural reforms ante adedo heresy annattu cultural police mothukuntar.. Cultural reforms peru meeda maalanti sickulars maa agenda propogate chesukuntam.. evadiki vade yamuna theere.. middle ground anedi lekapothe kashtam.Ofcourse we have come to a point where middle ground is considered as egasparty's vantage point. Economic reforms ante pedda kashtam kaadu.Money vishayaniki osthe andaru unite avutharu except commies .. so economic reforms anevi relatively easy anukuntunna.. |
   
Parthasaradhi
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Post Number: 784 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 160.254.20.253
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:39 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:Question cheyyakundaa follow avvala anneee? VEDAS lo generic gaa vunna hymns ki evadiki tagga definition vadu ichukuni ardham leni sampradayalu introduce ayyayi...we feel cleansing is required.
Endi vaaya sava dobbutunnav ikkada janalni.. neeku em telusu ani Vedas gurunchi comments cheyyagalav. Asalu puranallo unna main points anna neeku telusaa. Emi teliyakundaa emi cleansing chestav naa bondaa First knowledge techuko vaati meeda. taruvaatha aalochiddam cleansing sangathi. Oka vela neeku telusu ani nuvvu ante discussion start cheddam. questions vastay mari kaasukovaali.
Gandhiguevara:migilina vallu valla badhalu vintadu anukunna devudi daggaraku pothunnaru...manam vallani ranivvam...bayataku pothe matram edustham...
asalu 'devudu' ante emiti ani nee abhiprayam. gullo matram e vunnada anaa.. sagam sagam telisi matladutunnav.. |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3843 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:38 pm: |
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Kamal:I welcome nature's way of answering materialistic demands of the greedy janta .. even if it means a personal loss .. all is well for the greater cause !
Just a few decades of decadent Materialism has vindicated.. that Mankind needs the constant fear.. power of unknown to tread the right path.. who else will instill that better.. than Nature itself... |
   
Ishan
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Post Number: 2880 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:37 pm: |
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Iamim: Religion.. philosophy.. spirituality.. can all be classified brainwashing.. they all have baits of after life.. next life..
Not true for Hinduism. None of the vedantha schools stress on the benefits of after life. Its a cultural oxymoron that sati existed in Hindu society. Iamim: It tells that Males have responsibilities..
More responsibilities mean lesser emotional attachment? ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Chillarodu
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Post Number: 273 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 148.87.19.202
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:30 pm: |
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A tribe called Telagas in tengana practiced Sati couple centuries back. |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 5215 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 209.11.184.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:25 pm: |
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Netsaint:but mana batch direct vacchi VEDAS meedha HINDUS meedha padtharu
brother...obvious gaa yee 'Mana' batch lo nenu vundi vuntanu ani answer chesthunna... Why do you guys are always reluctant for discussions regarding these matters? Question cheyyakundaa follow avvala anneee? VEDAS lo generic gaa vunna hymns ki evadiki tagga definition vadu ichukuni ardham leni sampradayalu introduce ayyayi...we feel cleansing is required...aadavallani poojisthunnam antunnaru...virtual gaa bane vundi...kani real gaa emi chesthunnaru? manam bayati vaadi gurinchi matladetappudu, manam emi chesam...evi sarididdukovali anedi discuss chesthene kaada future generations lo hinduism ki oka respect vundedi...I totally agree cherchi chesina darunalu...pakka desam valla matham lo aadavallaki jarige discriminations...kaani yee kattu bottu lanti vishayllo kudaa inka ye generations follow avvalsinde leka pothe Hinduism ki avamanam annatlu matladithe evadu matram emi cheyya galadu...ikkadantha agra varnalu vallu koorchuni meedi tappu meedi tappu anukuntunnaru...migilina vallu valla badhalu vintadu anukunna devudi daggaraku pothunnaru...manam vallani ranivvam...bayataku pothe matram edustham... |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 12345 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:15 pm: |
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Iamim:Yeah.. economic reforms.. but.. no Cultural.. Philosophical.. Spiritual renaissance...
hehe .. they say .. 2012 will bring in much needed respite from the onslaught of these so-called rationalists .. again you see, thats a prophecy done by astrologists believing in Hindu astrology and might, infact, cannot be used as a citation for the rationalists .. who only believe in anything that can be seen by the naked eye .. which can only be put in a mathematical equation and a physical theorem .. enough said ! I welcome nature's way of answering materialistic demands of the greedy janta .. even if it means a personal loss .. all is well for the greater cause ! "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3840 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:08 pm: |
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Kamal:ekkada? thanks to women liberty and progressive societies .. we have a madonna in the west .. we have actress radhika in the east .. I doubt if the world will be the same ever ..
Yeah.. females are competing with males in all sectors.. But.. nature has made Males and Females different.. Mankind cannot subdue Nature.. Materialism has created many modern day Satis.. Funny thing.. no one even thinks about reforms.. Yeah.. economic reforms.. but.. no Cultural.. Philosophical.. Spiritual renaissance... |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3838 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 01:52 pm: |
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Ishan:but because of the baits of some illusory after life benefits in the heaven, which were imposed by constant brainwashing.
Religion.. philosophy.. spirituality.. can all be classified brainwashing.. they all have baits of after life.. next life.. Is an irreligious society bereft of any rationale but just be-all end-all of the present single life better than a philosophically logical society?? The very genesis of a materialistic society is firmly rooted in such a thought process...
Ishan:Btw, why do you think there were no recorded male version of sati if personal issues are the reasons? What does it tell us?
It tells its a Patriarchal society.. It tells that Males have responsibilities.. |
   
Netsaint
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Post Number: 2438 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 01:33 pm: |
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Ishan:
brother i feel agnaanam tho evarino tittataniki mana VEDAS ni thiduthunnaru.... Vedas,AAgama Sasthra, Puraanalu, AAchara lu ivi anni veru veru..... but mana batch direct vacchi VEDAS meedha HINDUS meedha padtharu "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Ishan
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Post Number: 2879 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 01:30 pm: |
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Getafix: fair enough.. Hinduism as such evil practices advocating cheyyadhu anukunta nenu ..
Definite ga cheyyadu. People might find some references in some verses of rig-veda and agnipurana supporting sati. But, either they were misinterpreted or even if that were true, those verses might have been written by some bigots. Remember, Hinduism was never written by a single sage. All the vedas, and other scriptures are just compendiums. Agama sastras, tantra, upanishads they all glorify the power of woman. As I said, sati was more of a cultural issue than religious. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Ishan
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Post Number: 2878 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 01:24 pm: |
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Iamim: What then prevents us from accepting.. acknowledging that Sati cases were personal??
Because, several recorded events show that the widows killed themselves not because of the emotional attachments to their husbands but because of the baits of some illusory after life benefits in the heaven, which were imposed by constant brainwashing. Moreover, when some one kills herself out of depression, they don't do it as a ceremonial practice. They rather do it in extreme anguish with spontaneity, just as Sati did when her father insults shiva. Btw, why do you think there were no recorded male version of sati if personal issues are the reasons? What does it tell us? ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Getafix
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Post Number: 5805 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 01:11 pm: |
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@Ishan brother fair enough.. Hinduism as such evil practices advocating cheyyadhu anukunta nenu ..infact any religion for that matter.. it is the institutional politics that procreates evils in any practice. Nenu sati gurinchi alane anukunevanni kaani ee thread lo historical references chusi nijangane edanna significance undhemo ani doubt padina... anyway thanks for explaination. @Iamim Thanks. |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3837 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 01:00 pm: |
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Ishan:That was just a personal issue rather than a tradition.
Yeah.. just like Madri did.. What then prevents us from accepting.. acknowledging that Sati cases were personal?? What makes us doubt the integrity of women?? |
   
Ishan
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Post Number: 2877 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:53 pm: |
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Iamim:She took it one step ahead.. ah..
That was just a personal issue rather than a tradition. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Ishan
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Post Number: 2876 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:51 pm: |
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But to be fair, Sati was more of an exception than a staunchly followed tradition. Particularly in south, coerced events of sati were very rare. Most of the widows never performed sati. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Netsaint
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Post Number: 2433 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:46 pm: |
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Iamim:Patriarchal
Initial days was Mother side undedi... later it was tuned to Patriachal "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 12327 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:45 pm: |
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Iamim: The world was.. is.. will be.. Patriarchal..
ekkada? thanks to women liberty and progressive societies .. we have a madonna in the west .. we have actress radhika in the east .. I doubt if the world will be the same ever ..  "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Ishan
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Post Number: 2875 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:44 pm: |
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Netsaint:SATI was not prevalent in SOUTH INDIA maximum. few pcokets of north india practised it. northies gaalu waste gaalu... they still practise many non-traditional aacharams.... GHOONGHAT, intiki guests vasthe, GHOONGHAT, mothamandari KAAALU(legs) mokkali blah blah.... sick fellows. remember its not MEN who insist these, KODALU GHOONGHAT eyyakapothe, ATTHAAYA will give TAAANA-BAAAJI
May be the system was more prevalent North, but there are several recorded incidents in South. It happened even in the Kshatriya community of vijaynagar empire and brahmin community of mysore. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Iamim
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Post Number: 3836 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:41 pm: |
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Getafix:mari Husband wife chanipothe happy ga endhuku second marriage endhuku chesukovachu ani endhuku free pass icharu?
The world was.. is.. will be.. Patriarchal.. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 12323 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:35 pm: |
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Iamim: Cant blame them.. they bore the maximum brunt of invasions.. even to think.. makes me shudder...
very well put .. vaalla geography, wealth, tradition and culture .. spelled doom for them .. prati talaku masina sannasi oka army vesukuni raavadam .. temples pillage cheyyadam .. women rape cheyyadam .. wealth loot cheyyadam .. tirigi pothu pothu .. akkada kontha daridraanni migilchipovadam ! If not for the Gangetic plains .. Hinduism would have perished long time ago .. "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Ishan
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Post Number: 2874 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38
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Getafix:alantidi antha popularity ela gain chesindhi?
The society during those times was very narrow and close-knit. Moral values, which were determined by the influential, rich and powerful people, were to be followed by every family. If by any chance a family decides to go against a moral standard, they would be at the receiving end of the perennial wrath from entire village. Also, families were very much interdependent. You can see such traces in villages even now. So, its a big risk not to obey the orders. One that is popular in a village automatically was mimicked by others. When there is no one to question and antagonize, everything spreads fast. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Iamim
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:29 pm: |
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Netsaint:few pcokets of north india practised it. northies gaalu waste gaalu... they still practise many non-traditional aacharams....
Cant blame them.. they bore the maximum brunt of invasions.. even to think.. makes me shudder... |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3834 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:27 pm: |
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Ishan:Not correct. Sati immolated herself because Shiva was insulted by daksha, not because shiva 'died'.
She took it one step ahead.. ah.. |
   
Netsaint
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:26 pm: |
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Ishan:Why the specific practice of 'sati' was developed in India was the question.
SATI was not prevalent in SOUTH INDIA maximum. few pcokets of north india practised it. northies gaalu waste gaalu... they still practise many non-traditional aacharams.... GHOONGHAT, intiki guests vasthe, GHOONGHAT, mothamandari KAAALU(legs) mokkali blah blah.... sick fellows. remember its not MEN who insist these, KODALU GHOONGHAT eyyakapothe, ATTHAAYA will give TAAANA-BAAAJI "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Ishan
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:22 pm: |
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Netsaint:forget SATI. African countrues lo till now also LADIES ki CIRCUMSCRIBE chestharu by cutting of the VULVA ..so that they cant get arousals and feelings towards others etc etc.... hinduism ni baaga bash cheyyandi ...
I never said gender discrimination was absent in other cultures. Why the specific practice of 'sati' was developed in India was the question. There is no hinduism bashing here. When some principles are laid down, its always possible to tweak them to suit individual needs. Whether its law or religion. Thats what happened with Sati. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Ishan
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:18 pm: |
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Iamim: I reckon the first ever Sati was committed by the daughter of Daksha.. wife of Siva..
Not correct. Sati immolated herself because Shiva was insulted by daksha, not because shiva 'died'. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Netsaint
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Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:17 pm: |
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Ishan:
forget SATI. African countrues lo till now also LADIES ki CIRCUMSCRIBE chestharu by cutting of the VULVA ..so that they cant get arousals and feelings towards others etc etc.... hinduism ni baaga bash cheyyandi ... "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:15 pm: |
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Getafix:Mana history chusthe Rudramma and Jhansi lanti vallu unnaru..Still, how come the idea, that a women's life served no purpose after her husband's death was propopgated anedi naku personal ga anthu chikkadhu.
There are always exceptions brother. Sati, I think was more of a cultural issue. Its a good question however why other societies have not developed such system. Its definitely related to the evil tweaking of hinduism by male chauvinists. So they took religion as an excuse. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Iamim
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Post Number: 3833 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:04 pm: |
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Getafix:@Iamim So it is basically difference in views annamaata. Our philosophy advocates sacrifice over freedom and individual happiness.
Every culture and religion preach and teach the same.. sacrifice.. sharing.. caring.. sparing.. loving.. giving... Materialism is just a recent phenomenon.. Materialism is fast becoming the de-facto neo religion of the world.. Materialism is like a charming call girl.. people get attracted.. people just long.. people feel safe.. with.. everyone-expect-me attitude.. but finally they will all be doomed to dustbins... |
   
Kamal
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:56 am: |
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Getafix:Agenda emi ledu.
Getafix:society is greater than individual ane philosophy ni question cheyakunda blind ga follow ayipovatam anna jarugundali...aa lines lo posting.
LOL .. the words we use clearly tell us whether it is agenda or not .. "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Netsaint
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:56 am: |
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Getafix:edo valid reason anna ayyundali leda society is greater than individual ane philosophy ni question cheyakunda blind
simple mama. POORVAL rojullo 150 years,200 years ,100 years ala bathikevaaru... anni long-life anubhavinchevvalu.... its like PAKVAM ki vacchina age laaga... aa stage lo widow ki peddhaga aasal leka povacchu... Colorfull age suppose 40-45 anuko, appudu widow aithe chaala kastham, she is hjighly vulnerable... again BALAVANTHAM GA RUDDHATAM bagoledu. oka vela LADY pelli vaddhu, ilantivi vaddhu anukunte self-intrest-destruction laaga upayoga padedhi... "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Getafix
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:49 am: |
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Iamim:The strength of Sati is directly proportional to the strength of the institution of marriage.. I reckon the first ever Sati was committed by the daughter of Daksha.. wife of Siva..
ikkade naaku confusion.. Mana puranallo - Marriage strength ni almost all times, Wife sacrifice tho mudi padi untundi whereas husband always gets fee pass from such tests. marriage strength ni wife sati dwara nirupisthe mari Husband wife chanipothe happy ga endhuku second marriage endhuku chesukovachu ani endhuku free pass icharu? |
   
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:44 am: |
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@Iamim So it is basically difference in views annamaata. Our philosophy advocates sacrifice over freedom and individual happiness. @NS Agenda emi ledu. Nakunna questions and confusions ala postullo esthunna ..hoping that, some one like you,Iamim and Ishan will clarify, anthe. nenu Sati worst ..mana hinduism ki maccha ani closed opinion em pettukoled.. peripheral ga chusthe chala vikruthamina aacharam - alantidi antha popularity ela gain chesindhi? edo valid reason anna ayyundali leda society is greater than individual ane philosophy ni question cheyakunda blind ga follow ayipovatam anna jarugundali...aa lines lo posting. |
   
Netsaint
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:38 am: |
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Preaching easy. entha mandhi husband ki inko-relation vundhi ante Kshamithaaru... life mothaam ragging untadi... alage entha mandhi husbands wife ki inko-relation unte kshamisthaaru.... life motham ragging untadi..... "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Netsaint
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:36 am: |
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Vjavasi:
aayana vuddeshyam aaacharalu easy easy ga aipothe marriage institution fail authundi antunnadu... becoz evadu evadiki care cheyyakarledhu.... Vicchavidi ga ,visrinkulamga undacchu (female,male) both "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Kamal
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:36 am: |
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Vjavasi: kummutunnaru ga....but still forcing somebody against their will is a crime...it should not be a mandatory practice
I totally agree .. no body said .. Sati should be forced .. "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Vjavasi
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:34 am: |
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Iamim:The strength of Sati is directly proportional to the strength of the institution of marriage.. I reckon the first ever Sati was committed by the daughter of Daksha.. wife of Siva..
kummutunnaru ga....but still forcing somebody against their will is a crime...it should not be a mandatory practice |
   
Kamal
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:28 am: |
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Getafix:Still, how come the idea, that a women's life served no purpose after her husband's death was propopgated anedi naku personal ga anthu chikkadhu.
canards .. canards and more baseless canards .. propagated with himalayan amounts of malice .. where was it prescribed that women's life has no value after a husband's death??? "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Netsaint
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Post Number: 2410 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:27 am: |
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Getafix:Meeru cheppinavi already society lo unna problems ye kada.. Single moms,single dads,divorces and remarriages valla aa problems kothaga ravatam emundhi.
untai mama. 1st mother kids , remarried mother kids ni sarigga same treatment istharaaru antava... see kalyanram,jr,family... VIP RICH family lone ala vunte, samaanya prajalu illalo ela vuntadi.. "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Iamim
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:25 am: |
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Getafix:Kakapothe akkada sati ane practice aaya regions lo start kaaledu kada.. Mana deggare endhuku ayyindi anedi alochinchalsina vishayam ani anukutunna.
The strength of Sati is directly proportional to the strength of the institution of marriage.. I reckon the first ever Sati was committed by the daughter of Daksha.. wife of Siva.. |
   
Getafix
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:25 am: |
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@NS brother.. Meeru cheppinavi already society lo unna problems ye kada.. Single moms,single dads,divorces and remarriages valla aa problems kothaga ravatam emundhi. @Ishan brother >>>-In a time which believed that a woman's path to heaven is though Sheela and Pativritya -- her character, and devotion to her husband, it was perhaps thought that a woman's life served no purpose after the death of her husband. >>> Mana history chusthe Rudramma and Jhansi lanti vallu unnaru..Still, how come the idea, that a women's life served no purpose after her husband's death was propopgated anedi naku personal ga anthu chikkadhu. |
   
Kamal
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:24 am: |
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Iamim:Society is greater than Individual.. Indian civilization is based on this concept.. Individual is greater than Society.. Materialism is based on this concept..
Hindu way of life ardam kaani prati vaallu .. romilla thapar pustakaalu chadivi moral high ground teesukunte result ilage untundi .. kiki "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Kamal
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:22 am: |
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Getafix:War antene destruction..Prapancham lo ye charithra teesukunna sare- war chesi gelichina parties looted people, raped women and made them and thier children as slaves.. Persians did it when they invaded Greece.. Romans did it..20th century lo jarigina wars lo kuda raping women anedi commonest feature. Africa lo its almost commonplace,that women being exploited. Latin america lo dictators cheyincharu alanti ghoraalu.. cheppukuntu pothe ennenno. Kakapothe akkada sati ane practice aaya regions lo start kaaledu kada.. Mana deggare endhuku ayyindi anedi alochinchalsina vishayam ani anukutunna.
ee kadhalu naaku akkarledu .. Wars in India by Hindu kings lo .. is there evidence in recorded history that the kings and his army "raped", looted and killed "civilians" .. latin america lo .. europe lo .. middle east lo barbaric tribes and people ki rape aacharam aithe naakenduku .. India lo wars were always fought on the principles/lines of "Yuddha Neeti" .. "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Netsaint
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:22 am: |
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Iamim:Anti Brahmans should have more than one wife.. coz Brahmanism preaches Eka patni vrata..
Kevvvvvvv... "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Kamal
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:17 am: |
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Iamim:Anti Brahmans should have more than one wife.. coz Brahmanism preaches Eka patni vrata..
sound lekunda violent ga kottaaru ga ..  "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Netsaint
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Getafix:
barbaric acts are there through out worldd..... Agenda Batch will BASH only INDIANS&HINDUS.... rest mee vignatha "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Iamim
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Getafix:alanti maarpu valla oche problem emuntundi? I am just asking.. I am not contending on what you said.
Society is greater than Individual.. Indian civilization is based on this concept.. Individual is greater than Society.. Materialism is based on this concept.. For the same reason.. an young widow with no kids is allowed to remarry.. |
   
Ishan
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:13 am: |
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Getafix:Kakapothe akkada sati ane practice aaya regions lo start kaaledu kada.. Mana deggare endhuku ayyindi anedi alochinchalsina vishayam ani anukutunna.
Possible reasons. -Burning the wife along with the attendants, horses and carriages of the the dead dignitary was a common practice among come Central Asian tribes. India being the melting pot of good and bad social systems of its constituent cultures, the custom of Sati was absorbed. -In a time which believed that a woman's path to heaven is though Sheela and Pativritya -- her character, and devotion to her husband, it was perhaps thought that a woman's life served no purpose after the death of her husband. -It might have come into practice as an evil family conspiracy against the widow to benefit from her assets and gold. -The life of a widow was so bad (this has continued to this day in India), the women perhaps favored death to humiliation. -The women who went Sati were glorified to no avail. The entice of instant fame and immortality cannot be ruled out on why women committed Sati. -There is another suicide tradition in the Jain religion called Sallekhana, where one dedicated one's soul in prayer. Despite of this tradition, numerous instances in Indian history illustrate when a Jain woman has preferred Sati over Sallekhana -- especially in the cases of untimely deaths of the husband. -Some women believed that those who died with the love of their life, were united with the man in heaven in an eternal marriage. Numerous women believed that they have married the same man in several of their lives. There is an interesting instance of a wife who went Sati with another man (not her husband), because of her belief that he was the one. -In Bengal, a system called Dayabhaga prevailed entitling a woman equal property along with male members of the departed husband. This may be the reason for the Sati system being more popular in that region, wherein the woman was driven to commit Sati by force. -There are numerous occasions when the woman experiences a divine calling and decided to commit Sati. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Getafix
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:02 am: |
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Raogaru:adanta mana paadu acharam ani books raseru
War antene destruction..Prapancham lo ye charithra teesukunna sare- war chesi gelichina parties looted people, raped women and made them and thier children as slaves.. Persians did it when they invaded Greece.. Romans did it..20th century lo jarigina wars lo kuda raping women anedi commonest feature. Africa lo its almost commonplace,that women being exploited. Latin america lo dictators cheyincharu alanti ghoraalu.. cheppukuntu pothe ennenno. Kakapothe akkada sati ane practice aaya regions lo start kaaledu kada.. Mana deggare endhuku ayyindi anedi alochinchalsina vishayam ani anukutunna. |
   
Ishan
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:57 am: |
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Iamim:Your kids and My kids are playing with Our kids..
 ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Netsaint
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:56 am: |
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Getafix:alanti maarpu valla oche problem emuntundi?
nothing . INCEST untadi. VAAVI-VARASALU undavu. already I am seeing lot of NON-TRADITIONAL BHUM-CHIK CHUM-CHIK between Male&female "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Getafix
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:54 am: |
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Iamim:In future we will be seeing lots of divorces.. re-marriages.. re-re-marriages.. widower marriges.. widow marriges.. old-age marriages.. single moms.. single dads..
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Iamim
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Post Number: 3829 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
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In future we will be seeing lots of divorces.. re-marriages.. re-re-marriages.. widower marriges.. widow marriges.. old-age marriages.. single moms.. single dads.. Your kids and My kids are playing with Our kids.. will be the order of the day.. it will be one big happy world... |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3827 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:28 am: |
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Netsaint:Peri.. goru 70 years ki MALLI Pelli jeskuni 30 yella ammai life ni buggipaal chesar..
Karuna is following with 2 wives.. Anti Brahmans should have more than one wife.. coz Brahmanism preaches Eka patni vrata.. |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3826 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:21 am: |
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Maricha says that Rama is the very quintessential embodiment of Dharma.. Rama is Dharma.. Dharma is Rama.. When Dasaratha died neither of his 3 wives committed sati.. Rama being the upholder of Dharma infact treated them with same respect as before... |
   
Raogaru
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Post Number: 1227 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 15.195.201.208
Rating:  Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:07 am: |
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thread anta chadavaledu kaani, nenu ila vinna: hubby antey baga love undi...hubby potey ala kondaru chesukunevaru. aa practice limited gaa undedi. kakapotey muxlims vachaka balya vivaham and sathi practice oopu andukunnayi. reason muxlim dongana l kodukulu rape chesi champutarani. aa l kodukul vachaka common ayipoyay, yekkada a l kodukul mana young gals ni rape chestarani balya vivahalu; alagey widows ni kooda rape chesi champestarani...sati practice baaga popular ayindi. kakapotey mana sickular l kodukul history ni change chesi...adanta mana paadu acharam ani books raseru నన్ను ఇన్వాల్వు చేయకండి సార్ |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3825 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:03 am: |
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Anand_n:Appati varaku prati subhakaryam lo mundu piliche tallini , status kolipogane, sideline chesi ,evaro doorapa bandhuvu aina punyasthri ki first namaskaristaru ...Can anyone really bless you better than the mother ?
Yeah.. a Widow is Apa sakunam.. same way a single Brahman is Apa sakunam.. But.. a single Sudra is Subha sakunam.. These are just sakunams.. thats it.. Where is the question of not taking blessings?? Infact.. a widow is to be addressed only as 'Ganga Bhageerathi Samana'.. such is the status given to widows... |
   
Cocanada
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Post Number: 18923 Registered: 01-2008
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Netsaint:
senior most member vi. sarigga complain cheyadam raadhu. chassss thred ki/post ki link ivaali mastaru. paina kinda...anni postlu chusi teerpu istaanu |
   
Guttonkay
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Post Number: 2941 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.134
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without going to all the details - I suggested to someone recently to not do it. I said in this day and age why do this bottu teeseyyadam. I was more than shocked to hear the answer. One lady answered, idi cheyyakunte ammayi (the girl whose husband died) annalaki keedu jarugutundi. aame vadinaluga idi maa badhyata. Where the f these rules get made and twisted over generations I don't know. |
   
Netsaint
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Post Number: 2389 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44
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Cocanada:
Mod garu. compliant section lo thread vesa 1 hour back. pls take action. "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Cocanada
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Post Number: 18921 Registered: 01-2008
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Gandhiguevara:Note: Only healthy disco please. Vallu chesina tappulaku yee generations badyulu kaadu...so blood boilers defend cheskovalsina paniledu
ippudu neeku enduku sudden gaa gurtochindi? baadha padaku. ippudu evaru cheyatledu le. . |
   
Netsaint
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Post Number: 2386 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44
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Guttonkay:women remove all beautification stuff in order to make her lose interest in all things physical. I wonder if that idea ever worked for the woman in question.
gutthonkay: you are right. infact to remove INTREST from MALE side also. this beautification was removed.. Since the concept of re-marry is ok nowadays, i think this type of aacharam should be stopped.. "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Guttonkay
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Post Number: 2939 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.134
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infact widow ku botttu teseyyadam ivannni koooda too bad.!!musali vallaku ayithey ok. ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- It is never ok to make a woman remove flowers, bottu and all, no matter what her age is. If you think about the fact that a hindu woman is wearing bottu from the day she is born and wearing flowers and bangles all her life, to make her remove them just b'coz her husband died is big BS. My ammamma used to say she missed wearing mallepoolu in her hair the most after her husband's death. Put yourself in her shoes for a minute and you will realize how dumb our achaaraalu are. puratanana kalam bharta chanipote pelli chesevallu kadu kabatti they used to make women remove all beautification stuff in order to make her lose interest in all things physical. I wonder if that idea ever worked for the woman in question. |
   
Film_fan
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Post Number: 10777 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 07:45 am: |
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As the time passes, as a society we started questioning ourselves, and we corrected our mistakes. In future we may follow pati instead of sati. kiki -- I agree to your point... mistakes must have hapened....in each and every sect or religion i think..... In regards to Sati.....this was a very cruel thing....more especially....if someone is forced when they dont want to...... A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila. -- Mitch Radcliffe
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Telugubabu
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Post Number: 1261 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 71.56.33.118
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 07:34 am: |
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let's stop digging into the past. People get emotional and irrational when the discussion topic matters to them. They forget all the good we do to them. yes injustice was done to weak people in the past. woman all over the world, harijans in India , blacks in west. The most progressive country America did not have voting rights for woman until 1930s. and yet to see a woman president. Law of the jungle is strong kills weak. Big fish eats small fish. We are still learning to be humans. In past men use to do the hard work. Protect the family and country. There were times every young man should go to the war. They all use to die in the battle field. Imagine a country without a man. No one imposes these barbaric laws. They just happen. I think someone who loved her husband deeply could not see her man dying in the battle field and joined her husband. Others followed her. Later it became a custom. As the time passes, as a society we started questioning ourselves, and we corrected our mistakes. In future we may follow pati instead of sati. kiki Expect nothing, live frugally on surprise. |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 5214 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.130.92.164
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Mvssr75:You are falling into the same trap. One time you say you want to resolve the current problems, at the same time JUst TO satisfy your EGO, you post some ancient duracharam and try to attribute it to Hinduism. If you want to really concerned about issues, religion is not the place to fight. You have better things to focus and resolve
ilaanti vishyallo naaku ego emuntundile brother...paata tappulnundi nerchukovali...religions kudaa evolve kaavali...blunt gaa khandinchalsina vishayanni...capitalism thota kura ani...bottu pettukoka pothe hinduism ki droham annatlu matladuthunte...ilanti vishayallo freedom vunna religions vaipu moggu choosputhunnaru public...pre-independece balavanthapu matha marpidula sangathemo kaani...ippudu janam gumpulu gumpulga pothannaru...inka manam matram...guddi gaa milleniums back vatini thu cha tappaka ante evaru maatram chesedemundi...evari flow lo vallu vellipovatame |
   
Diviseema
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Post Number: 3944 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 115.117.243.161
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 01:11 am: |
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//naa uddesam lo fashion kosam bottu pettukoni aadavaallani analane uddesame kaani ..// what is ur problem if its for fashion or saving money or anything else. 40 yrs back chakkaga kukuma pettikoka endhuku ready made thilakam ani thilakam pettukune vaallani vekkirinchevaalu. 20 yrs back chakkaga thilakam diddukoka endhuku stiker bottulu ani navve vaallu. eppudu enthamandhi thilakam pettukuntaru. kunkuma pettukuntaru. are u not adjusting with ur mother, sister or wife using stikers. after few years we will adjust without that also. just matter of time. Men or Women are free to do anything. No culture or Religion can stop them for ever. matter of time anthe. manam chinchukuni inko 20 yrs aapagalamemo anthe. http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3824 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:51 am: |
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Eluri_kurradu:hehehe edchevallaku edo oka reason kaavali navve vallaki edo oka reason kavali ...
Right.. Hinduism is the only religion that worships females.. Yet.. feminist libbers complain.. Cant blame them anyway.. Inferiority complex is inherently ingrained in them.. There is remedy for every malady.. Inferiority complex has no cure.. especially when its genetic in nature... |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 12304 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.1.202.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:24 am: |
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Eluri_kurradu:vaati gurinchi disco cheyyakunda ilanti vatini hilight sesi janalu mislead sestaru..
simple .. India lo Hindutva vidadeeyaleni bhaagam ani .. 99% problems solve cheyyagalige ideology .. adi nachadu for some people .. why? they perceive their ancestors have been given a raw deal by Hindutva .. which is a far cry from truth .. now Hindutva as a way of life had some practices which needed changes over the times and Hindutva gladly changed with the times .. and will also do so going forward .. no matter how much these people try to distort the truth and demonize it for no reason .. lastly .. mooda nammakalani guddi ga namme vaallani vekkirinchina goppa samskaravanthulu .. without a thought .. oka mushti victorian version of secularism ni follow avuthu .. India lo Hindutva ki full stop pettaali ane taapatrayam enti? evaru gorrelu in the right spirit of the word .. LOL .. tough questions .. typical daatavetha dorani answers .. tella vaadu ichina chetta ni manaspoorthi ga embrace chesukune "athivaadam" .. on that note .. in no mood to disco once that the unveiling has be done .. Subha Ratri ..  "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Eluri_kurradu
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Post Number: 8808 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.30.2.223
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:14 am: |
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Netsaint:Unfortunate Thing is AAAdaDaniki AAaDadhe SHatruvu.... They really never care for fellow destitutes... Parentaniki MAN paapam pilustha anna kooooda, athani LADY adddam goduthundi...for sure
telugu TV serials chdadam maneyyi ani cheppa .. vinte kada nuvvu |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 12303 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.1.202.142
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Mvssr75:You are falling into the same trap. One time you say you want to resolve the current problems, at the same time JUst TO satisfy your EGO, you post some ancient duracharam and try to attribute it to Hinduism.
 "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Eluri_kurradu
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Post Number: 8807 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.30.2.223
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:11 am: |
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Kamal:It simply boils down to the times we are in.
hehehe edchevallaku edo oka reason kaavali navve vallaki edo oka reason kavali ... appudu edo jarigindatagada ani savadobbutaaru .. BTW I find sati incidents were very small and not at all significant when compared to millions of other atrocities committed on women in the name of law and religion (?I am not talking about hindu religion alone here)... vaati gurinchi disco cheyyakunda ilanti vatini hilight sesi janalu mislead sestaru.. |
   
Mvssr75
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Post Number: 1119 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 71.209.218.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:06 am: |
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Gandhiguevara:
You are falling into the same trap. One time you say you want to resolve the current problems, at the same time JUst TO satisfy your EGO, you post some ancient duracharam and try to attribute it to Hinduism. If you want to really concerned about issues, religion is not the place to fight. You have better things to focus and resolve |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3823 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:02 am: |
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Anand_n:Naku telisi the oldest scriptural reference is Madri's sati sahagamanam with Pandu...way before turak invasions.
Why Kunti did not perform Sati along with Madri?? Kunti is not Pativrata enough?? Thing is.. Pandu had a curse.. that he should not have sex.. knowing this fully Madri enticed him with her provocative behaviour.. Pandu could not control and hence died.. Madri felt devastated.. to add to it.. Kunti abused Madri for killing Pandu.. out of repentance Madri felt its best to die with Pandu.. She asked Kunti to take care of her kids.. What Madri did was right... |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 5210 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.130.92.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:00 am: |
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Iamim:A woman should have the freedom to behave like a widow.. though she is young.. has hubby and kids.. A woman should have the freedom to behave like a virgin.. though she is old.. has grand kids.. hubby is dead.. Dont question...
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Kamal
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Post Number: 12301 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.1.202.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 11:59 pm: |
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Iamim:Its all about individual freedom.. freedom of choice..
It simply boils down to the times we are in. I am against practicing Sati in this day .. this age .. but I simply dont fathom what makes these progressive souls ignore the brutality of the society towards women .. today we may feel .. a widowed woman is no different to another women, rightly so, but where was that equality in those days? even then the capitalistic (animal) streak allowed stronger people to feed on weaker people and the unfortunate .. and in my view .. sati was devised just to address that thing .. Its simply childish to hold a grudge against past claiming moral superiority of today, while in letter and spirit upholding capitalism more devilishly ! Strange are the ways of the lord and his people ! "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 3822 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 11:50 pm: |
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Kamal:firstly .. nenu vaadinadi Manmadhudu movie lo oka comedy dialogue .. secondly .. naa uddesam lo fashion kosam bottu pettukoni aadavaallani analane uddesame kaani .. not women who were unfortunate !!! I am not such an idiot .. if you even thought of referring to my post ...
You dont get the point.. Its all about individual freedom.. freedom of choice.. A woman should have the freedom to behave like a widow.. though she is young.. has hubby and kids.. A woman should have the freedom to behave like a virgin.. though she is old.. has grand kids.. hubby is dead.. Dont question... |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 12299 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.1.202.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 11:33 pm: |
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Anand_n:But db lo "bottu leni adadi ante chiraku " ani goppaga cheppukunevallani chustunte still a long way to go anipistundi..
ee thread asalu choodaledandi .. in any case .. I have to explain my stand here .. bcoz I used that sentence very recently and people may judge me now !!! firstly .. nenu vaadinadi Manmadhudu movie lo oka comedy dialogue .. secondly .. naa uddesam lo fashion kosam bottu pettukoni aadavaallani analane uddesame kaani .. not women who were unfortunate !!! I am not such an idiot .. if you even thought of referring to my post ... anyways .. peace ! "Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda "Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar |
   
Eluri_kurradu
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Post Number: 8801 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.30.2.223
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almost sati concept tho edo movie vachindi ompuri chellelni podichi champestadu end lo aaakrosh edo undi .. daanni mathram liberals vipareethamga mechukunnar |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 5199 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.130.92.164
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Ishan:and that inko lady is more often is her mother or/and sister.
valla mind set alaa set chesesaru brother |
   
Ishan
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Post Number: 2868 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.169.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 11:07 pm: |
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Netsaint:1st kummedhi inko Lady eee...
yeah, and that inko lady is more often is her mother or/and sister. ...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALiyJ02k_Y
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Telugubabu
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Post Number: 1258 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 71.56.33.118
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 07:18 pm: |
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sati is such a shame. sabya samaajam siggu padalsina vishayam. ippudu ammayilu husband bathiki vundagane bottu, mangala suthram, kaali mettalu lite antunnaru. kids appudena no way antunnaru. Expect nothing, live frugally on surprise. |
   
Netsaint
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Post Number: 2375 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 07:11 pm: |
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Maa side, Widow ki entire 1st year 'cannot visit any house or anybody' ani untadi.... paatinchakapothe, 1st kummedhi inko Lady eee.... Aristam,daridram,adhi,idhi,naa bongu,na bhoshanam ani.... chathhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Kadapanagfan
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Post Number: 23107 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 72.187.133.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 07:11 pm: |
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Netsaint:why are u laghing.
Kadapanagfan:Ayina yee kalam lo ladies dagggara sati sahagamanam antey manalni tostaru nipppu loki!!
Jokenu akkkada so oka icon petta!!! Netsaint:Husband chacchipothe, his own brothers pelli cheseskuntaru aaameni... ee aacharam inkaa undhu esp north india lo
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Netsaint
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Post Number: 2374 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 07:09 pm: |
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Unfortunate Thing is AAAdaDaniki AAaDadhe SHatruvu.... They really never care for fellow destitutes... Parentaniki MAN paapam pilustha anna kooooda, athani LADY adddam goduthundi...for sure "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Netsaint
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Post Number: 2373 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 07:07 pm: |
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Kadapanagfan:
KNF mama, why are u laghing. Husband chacchipothe, his own brothers pelli cheseskuntaru aaameni... ee aacharam inkaa undhu esp north india lo "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Kadapanagfan
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Post Number: 23106 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 72.187.133.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 07:01 pm: |
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This is tooo bad!!!Ayina yee kalam lo ladies dagggara sati sahagamanam antey manalni tostaru nipppu loki!!! infact widow ku botttu teseyyadam ivannni koooda too bad.!!musali vallaku ayithey ok kaaaani kondaru papam youngsters ku ala cheyydam chaaala tapppu!!! |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 1327 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 24.118.242.233
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 06:48 pm: |
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Anand_n:Tradition that converted the land of Radha-Krishna,Vrindavan into a city of destitute widows :-(
nenu ikkadiki vellanu..aa area ante ee gudiki vellina...ee widows begging chesthu untaru...bhale baadesindhi.aa Bihar UP Rajasthan etc daarunamayina places ilanti vishayalo. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
   
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Anand_n:Tradition ni question cheyyakunda follow ayipovali ante ilanti traditions e propagate avutayi...
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Anand_n:Ee status ki sastralu attribute chesina power inta-anta kadu... Appati varaku prati subhakaryam lo mundu piliche tallini , status kolipogane, sideline chesi ,evaro doorapa bandhuvu aina punyasthri ki first namaskaristaru ...Can anyone really bless you better than the mother ? Widowhood and childlessness have been a curse in traditional indian society - husband and children unte poojaneeyulu- else they are treated like outcasts..unwelcome or at best tolerated at auspicious occasions ...
Akka....ilaa cheyyataaniki reason yemayyi vuntundi antaaru? CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER |
   
Anand_n
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Chiru_fan:oka reformist
Tradition ni question cheyyakunda follow ayipovali ante ilanti traditions e propagate avutayi...
Gandhiguevara:'Punya shthree'
Ee status ki sastralu attribute chesina power inta-anta kadu... Appati varaku prati subhakaryam lo mundu piliche tallini , status kolipogane, sideline chesi ,evaro doorapa bandhuvu aina punyasthri ki first namaskaristaru ...Can anyone really bless you better than the mother ? Widowhood and childlessness have been a curse in traditional indian society - husband and children unte poojaneeyulu- else they are treated like outcasts..unwelcome or at best tolerated at auspicious occasions ... The sad thing is , the perpetrators are mostly women too , under the 'brainwashing" of tradition .. Tradition that converted the land of Radha-Krishna,Vrindavan into a city of destitute widows  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
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In the olden days, when kings defeated other kings, they used to forcibly marry the queens. That is why the queens used to do sati. This ugly ritual was followed by other regular janta, mostly Rajputs in North india. |
   
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Some positive angles of Muslim/British invasion of India... As Islam established itself in the subcontinent, opinions about sati changed and it was increasingly regarded as a barbaric practice. The earliest known governmental efforts to halt the practice were undertaken by Muslim rulers, including Muhammad Tughlaq. Europeans also showed a change in their attitudes regarding local customs as their home countries became dominant local powers. The earliest Europeans to establish themselves were the Portuguese in Goa. They tried early on to override local customs and practices, including sati, as they attempted to spread Christianity throughout the territories in their control. The British entered India as a trading body, and in the earlier periods of their rule, they were largely indifferent to local practices. The practice of sati, and its later legal abolition by the British (along with the suppression of the thuggee) went on to become one of the standard justifications for British rule. British attitudes in their later history in India are usually given in the following much repeated quote, usually ascribed to General Napier - |
   
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Anand_n:Even the whole ritual of widowhood enforcement is horrible to witness from breaking bangles to draping the white saree - tradition peru to already suffer avutunna vallani torture cheyyatam
yeah...aaa situation lo deniki badha padaalo kudaa teleedemo vallaki...'Punya shthree' gaa pothe ane statement kudaa edo vunnatlundi kadaa? |
   
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Post Number: 5181 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.130.92.164
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Anand_n:Naku telisi the oldest scriptural reference is Madri's sati sahagamanam with Pandu...way before turak invasions.
idi mention cheddam anukunna akka...kaani athivadulu desa drohi ani attribute chestharemo ani aagipoyaa... Infact ridveda lo konni hymns ki vere ardhalu teesi, oka dussaampradayanni introduce chesaru...possessiveness oka major reason anukuntunna... |
   
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Netsaint:Badaaa BALISINA Agricultural Rythulu.... Peda vallaki ki APPULU icchesi,,, avi tirigi kattalekapothe,,, PELLALA ni koooda raaayincheskunevaaru..... Vaaaduku D...kataniki
Now you are talking....valla gurinchi kudaa discuss cheddam tondarlone...there were/are so many victims of this social structure...meme adhikulam anna bavajaalam ye okka caste matrame ledu...so nee agenda naku ardham ayyindi...tappakundaa discuss cheddam |
   
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Post Number: 1246 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 75.73.145.131
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Anand_n:db lo "bottu leni adadi ante chiraku " ani goppaga cheppukunevallani chustunte still a long way to go anipistundi..
ante,aRDHAM KALEDHU..KASTHE DETAIL GA CHEPTHARA? Fan of IBDB Cop Chantodannai... |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 5179 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.130.92.164
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Netsaint:infact LANDLORDS ,etc inkaa UPPER CASTLU enno enno ghoral chese vaaru villages lo
evvadnee vadiled ledu |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 5178 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.130.92.164
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Eluri_kurradu:northies turakollaninchi tama aadavarini kapadukune
400 AD lo turakollekkada vachaar?...inko saari try chey |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 5177 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.130.92.164
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Netsaint:Ivi UPPER CASTE FEUDAL type Ghoralu.... nee agenda PASS avvadhu le..
Em agenda? ittantivi pettinollu follow ayyina vallu naa caste lo vunnaa thidatha...nee propaganda nuvvu kaani... |
   
Chiru_fan
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Anand_n:
Akka... mee loo oka reformist kanabaduthunnaru! CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER |
   
Anand_n
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Eluri_kurradu:sati ledu le idedo northies turakollaninchi tama aadavarini kapadukune vidhamga start ayyindi
Historically incorrect - thst practice was Jauhar not Sati - the mass immolation of Rajput women when their husbands went into a battle that they had no chance of winning.. Naku telisi the oldest scriptural reference is Madri's sati sahagamanam with Pandu...way before turak invasions. Whatever the origin and history it was a barbaric practice and thank god for people like Raja Rammohan Roy who brought about the change.. Even the whole ritual of widowhood enforcement is horrible to witness from breaking bangles to draping the white saree - tradition peru to already suffer avutunna vallani torture cheyyatam.. Thankfully a lot of the current generation is saying no and not letting their mothers/relatives be subjected to that...But db lo "bottu leni adadi ante chiraku " ani goppaga cheppukunevallani chustunte still a long way to go anipistundi.. aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Chiru_fan
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GaGu mama... nee write up yelaa vundi antee as if the place we are living in is a cleaner and greener one... forgot about what happened 100 years back... okka 15-20 years kinda Anantapur loo yemmayyedoo Paritala Ravi chaala clear gaa cheppadu... bewakoof gallu appudoo vunnar...ippudoo vunar...may be ippudu saanaa yekkuva vunnar CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER |
   
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Badaaa BALISINA Agricultural Rythulu.... Peda vallaki ki APPULU icchesi,,, avi tirigi kattalekapothe,,, PELLALA ni koooda raaayincheskunevaaru..... Vaaaduku D...kataniki.... kiiik "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
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GAGU: Ivi UPPER CASTE FEUDAL type Ghoralu.... nee agenda PASS avvadhu le.. Okka Community ne target cheddam ani anukuntunnav.... kiki infact LANDLORDS ,etc inkaa UPPER CASTLU enno enno ghoral chese vaaru villages lo... kiki "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
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Sri1:
last official record was 1987 RAJASTHAN lo jarigindhi...SATI "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
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Peri.. goru 70 years ki MALLI Pelli jeskuni 30 yella ammai life ni buggipaal chesar.. aa PELLI tho DRAVIDA party cheeeli, DMK gaaa start ayyindhi under CN ANNADUARI and EVK leadership tho "chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii..... My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
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few years back (i mean about 10 years back) UP lo ekkado okame sathi sahgamanam chesindhi ani chadiva |
   
Eluri_kurradu
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andhra lo sati ledu le idedo northies turakollaninchi tama aadavarini kapadukune vidhamga start ayyindi acharamga maarindi ante.. |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 5176 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.130.92.164
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Baboy...saduvuthunte raka rakaalu gaavundi... aaa rojullo higher caste aadavallu lower castes lo putti vunte bagundedi anukuni vundevaremo(IMO)... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice) |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Champesi gullu kattevaaraaa???
Few reliable records exist of the practice before the time of the Gupta empire, approximately 400 AD. After about this time, instances of sati began to be marked by inscribed memorial stones. The earliest of these are found in Sagar, Madhya Pradesh, though the largest collections date from several centuries later, and are found in Rajasthan. These stones, called devli, or sati-stones, became shrines to the dead woman, who was treated as an object of reverence and worship. They are most common in western India |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 5174 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.130.92.164
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Sathi ante teleeni yee generation paatakula kosam... Satī (Devanagari: सती, the feminine of sat "true"; also called suttee)[5] is a funeral practice among some Hindu communities in which a recently widowed woman would either voluntarily or by use of force and coercion immolate herself on her husband’s funeral pyre. This practice is now rare and outlawed in modern India.[1] The term is derived from the original name of the goddess Sati, also known as Dakshayani, who self-immolated because she was unable to bear her father Daksha's humiliation of her (living) husband Shiva. The term may also be used to refer to the widow herself. The term sati is now sometimes interpreted as "chaste woman." In simple terms...'Burning women alive'...oka puranam lo story ni pattukuni intha mandini sapesara? too sad |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Periyar Ramaswamy hatsoff to you too Women’s rights Main article: Periyar E. V. Ramasamy and women's rights Periyar with his wife Maniammai.As a rationalist and ardent social reformer, Periyar advocated forcefully, throughout his life, that women should be given their legitimate position in society as the equals of men and that they should be given good education and also the right to property. He was keen that women should realize their rights and be worthy citizens of their country.[46] Periyar fought against the orthodox traditions of marriage as suppression of women in Tamil Nadu and throughout the Indian sub-continent. Though arranged marriages were meant to enable a couple to live together throughout life, it was manipulated to enslave women.[47] Much worse was the practice of child marriages practiced throughout India at the time. It was believed that it would be a sin to marry after puberty.[48] Another practice, which is prevalent today, is the dowry system where the bride's family is supposed to give the husband a huge payment for the bride. The purpose of this was to assist the newly wedded couple financially, but in many instances dowries were misused by bridegrooms. The outcome of this abuse turned to the exploitation of the bride's parents wealth, and in certain circumstances, lead to dowry deaths.[49] There have been hundreds of thousands of cases where wives have been murdered, mutilated, and burned alive because the father of the bride was unable to make the dowry payment to the husband. Periyar fiercely stood up against this abuse meted out against women.[50] Women in India also did not have rights to their families' or husbands' property. Periyar fought fiercely for this and also advocated for the women to have the right to separate or divorce their husbands under reasonable circumstances.[50] While birth control remained taboo in society of Periyar's time, he advocated for it not only for the health of women and population control, but for the liberation of women.[44] He criticized the hypocrisy of chastity for women and argued that it should also either belong to men, or not at all for both individuals.[51] While fighting against this, Periyar advocated to get rid of the Devadasi system. In his view it was an example of a list of degradations of women attaching them to temples for the entertainment of others, and as temple prostitutes.[52] As a further liberation of women, Periyar pushed for the right of women to have an education and to join the armed services and the police force.[51][53] Periyar and his movement have achieved a better status for women in Tamil society. It was his conviction that in matters of education and employment there should be no difference between men and women. There was a time when no girl opted for engineering studies, or parents thought of sending their daughter to an engineering college. Today, lots of young women can be found studying at engineering and medical colleges in Tamil Nadu.[41] His influence in the State departments and even the Center have made it possible for women to join police departments and having posts in the army. Periyar was engaged in strenuous propaganda against child marriage and now the government has fixed the minimum age for the marriage of girls to be eighteen. Through his advocacy for the equality of men and women, girls started to receive rights over ancestral property along with male children. Considering the growth in the percentage of Indian population, there are State governments encouraging birth control now. Periyar confronted this problem even over fifty years ago. He advised married people to limit the birth of children so that both men and women can be able to contribute their society. In one of his meetings he even wondered why the scientists should not think of producing test tube babies.[41] |
   
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Sthree hatya paatakam antaru kadaaa? adi vaariki varthisthundaa? |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Yee duracharam eppudu start ayyindo teleedu kaani...Hatsoff to Rajarammohan roy and veeresalingam pantulu garlu and others...moodha nammakalni...verri sampradaylni guddi gaa namme aa rojullo vyavastha ki vyatirekam poraadadam ante saamanya vishyam kaadu... Mana poorveekulu Mana aadavallani entha mandi yee vidham gaa champi vuntaru...lakshallonaa...leka count kotla loki velli vuntundaa... Note: Only healthy disco please. Vallu chesina tappulaku yee generations badyulu kaadu...so blood boilers defend cheskovalsina paniledu |