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I hope ppl here understand how the brits wanted us to think that learning english shud equate to learning the great Greek and Latin for Indians and discredit the local dialect!!!
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an excerpt....look at the arrogance of his tone...and sadly we shamelessly want to tread the same path of slavery:

"The first instance to which I refer, is the great revival of letters among the Western nations at the close of the fifteenth and the beginning of the sixteenth century. At that time almost every thing that was worth reading was contained in the writings of the ancient Greeks and Romans. Had our ancestors acted as the Committee of Public Instruction has hitherto acted; had they neglected the language of Cicero and Tacitus; had they confined their attention to the old dialects of our own island; had they printed nothing and taught nothing at the universities but Chronicles in Anglo-Saxon, and Romances in Norman-French, would England have been what she now is? What the Greek and Latin were to the contemporaries of More and Ascham [note: English humanists of the 16th century] our tongue is to the people of India. The literature of England is now more valuable than that of classical antiquity. I doubt whether the Sanscrit literature be as valuable as that of our Saxon and Norman progenitors. In some departments,-in History, for example, I am certain that it is much less so"
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Jp_rocks:

but are we inventing anything?




The question is that don't we want to....when u erase the language of a civilization,u just don't arise merely a language but the umbilical chord between the civilization and its people...

This is exactly how Lord Macaulay envisioned India to be..I assume u were aware of his speech in the house of commons...

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1833macaulay-india.html
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Do I need english to innovate anything?? Hell NO....the post industrial revolution saw more patents from Germany and France than all UK and US together..


we dont need english to invent anything..but are we inventing anything? dont gimme renaissance stuff from other countries.......we r talking abt india..when we r not inventing nething, we need SOMETHING to feed our ppl with....imagine the turmoil if these one million ppl who are living outta the knowledge 4 english were jobless?

it is easy to say nice things abt our culture n language....even i love telugu..but not at the cost of OUR men n women's lives.......specially when the most brainiest ppl flee frm d country..and talk abt invention backhome...and when slaves like me who dont have the brain to invent nething follow suit..yes we were slaves for hundreds of yrs..and we continue to be....
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US ivy league univs lo MBA admission techukotam easy indialo top 10 univs lo MBA admission techukotam kanna..ikkada USlo nuvvu ee accent tho matladina, gramatical mistakes chesina, nuvvu entha confident ga unnav..nuvvu cheppa dalchukuna bhavam avatala vaadiki ardham avutondha.nee backgrnd entha balamga undi ivi choostharu..

indialo nuvvu poyi grp discussionlo rendu moodu gramatical mistakes cheyi......nee appln ni chettha kundilo parestharu...elemma...banisatvapu edhavalu..


basic ga dabbul ivvandi ra..evadidhi cheekataniki anna sidham anna banisatvapu mentality...no offense..kani idhe nijam..indulo nenu, andharam bhagame..

chivariga...english koodu pedutundhi..telugu pettadu ane valu..ee bhasha ayina koodu pettadu..aa bhashaloni janalu chese abhivrudhi..vala udyogalu puduthayi kaani..bhasha valla udyogalu puttavu...mari german,russian,chinese,japanese,korean etc veelan dharu english pichi lo kottukovatledhe?????.mana chetha kaani tanam valla mana bhashalni tungalo tokki ekkada udyogalu unte vala venta padi vala bhashee mana bhasha ga marchukuni,avasaram unna lekapoyina nerchesukuni,mana bhasha maatladataniki namoshi padipoyi,idhe abhivrudhi ani jabbal charchukuntuna mudarastapu jathi manadhi

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Kamal:

Only Sanskrit is the "Raj" bhasha of India.



Kamal:

Hindi is one among the 18 national languages




Tammudu Hindi & sanskrit rendu kooda 22 official languages of India list lo unnayi, India ki national language kani Rajya Basha kani levu
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aaa madhya, Haryana lo kooda, second language chesinatlu gurthu.
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Guttonkay:

telugu is behind bengal ane point ardham katalledu




Could be number of reasons..

Bengali and Telugu were neck and neck.. the influx from across the border could have increased the Bengali number..

Since AP is more progressive than WB.. birthrate of AP could have been less..

Since Telugu people convert easily.. the Telugu people in other states might have stated themselves as non-Telugu..
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Guttonkay:

Does this mean AP is the state with most population outside of Hindi speaking states? That would be bad.




YES, TELUGU is next to HINDI. AP + Outsdide AP kooda unnaru chaala mandhi

like TN,Karnakaka,Maharastra etc
"chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama
Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii.....
My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/
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telugu is behind bengal ane point ardham katalledu
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Does this mean AP is the state with most population outside of Hindi speaking states? That would be bad.
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we help/feed people, in return we want you to convert into our religion - ani direct gaa seppukuntay... no one has an objection.
Tsunami dhaggarakelli, convert avutheynay help chesthaam...
Mother teresa thyaagalu ...
Father Francis Praanalu ...
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Laanti pitta kadhalu vaddhu anedhi.
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Jp_rocks:

telugu matladite origedenti?? kooduka guddaka??





స్వీయ ఆరాధన - సర్వ ఆదరణ
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Jp_rocks:

iam okay if our men are fed even if we convert into a goddamn christian nnation..when we dont help ourselves, we dont stand a chance to complain




then what is the point for any struggle for independence??? If you look at the stats,we were eating on an average eating the same under british than we are now...the only thing that increased after the brits was that India became a more meat consuming country during the brit regime...

Langauge is an identity....an identity that needs to be preserved at ny cost...U raise are very relevant yet oft overlooked issue, getting to learn english for call center jobs.....this is what is typically called slave contentment....Do I need english to innovate anything?? Hell NO....the post industrial revolution saw more patents from Germany and France than all UK and US together...and same with all the major advances in science.....95% of german research is still published in german first...

They didnt embrace english as we did...

Language like culture is an identity..infact historians often said this: Kill the language first to kill the culture
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Bollywood develops a taste for English

'I can talk English. I can walk English. I can laugh English. Because English is a very phunny language,' rattles off a memorable Amitabh Bachchan in Prakash Mehra's incessantly droll, Namak Halal.

Adopting Big B's 'Can do anything English' philosophy, Bollywood's shown a noticeable increase in its production of English titles for Hindi movies in recent times.

A lot of them like No Entry, Bluffmaster, My Name is Khan, 3 Idiots, All the Best, Wanted, Welcome, Rock On!!, Race and Wake Up Sid weren't not just widely-accepted but did great business too. Nothing 'phunny' about that, right?

On the other hand, there've been quite a few unfortunate ones, namely -- Risk, No Smoking, The Stoneman Murders, Out of Control, Fight Club-Members Only, Do Knot Disturb, Luck By Chance, Kidnap, Roadside Romeo and Striker, which crashed at the box office.

Nevertheless, the trend is here to stay. On that note, here's a look at some of the significant non-Hindi movie titles to come out of Bollywood in the upcoming months.

Housefull

After the success of Heyy Babyy, witty television host/anchor turned director Sajid Khan is back making another Akshay Kumar-led farce, Housefull.

Getting into the trouble-inviting skin of Aarush yet again, the Khiladi plays hubby to his three hot, high-maintenance wives -- Lara Dutta, Deepika Padukone and Jiah Khan under one common roof leading to an inevitable comedy of errors. (Read Akki being slapped by a monkey, one of the heroines falling into a trash can, to name a few.)

Set in London, the star-studded fare also features Ritesh Deshmukh and Arjun Rampal.
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Kamal:

and evari language vaallaki oka "identity" istundi .. adi lekapothe .. there is no point .. you are not only your slave, but is a slave of your master !


identity my assss..i dont need no fukin identity dude..all i need is some bread n clean water..y dont u understand..

identity emistundi? repu matladam le detailed ga.......christian missionaries are converting our ppl ani manam edustam..do we have fing plan in place to feed our ppl?? NO..but we whine when some tangos feed our men in return to a change in their faith..

iam okay if our men are fed even if we convert into a goddamn christian nnation..when we dont help ourselves, we dont stand a chance to complain
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Jp_rocks:

point matladehe..telugu matladite origedenti?? kooduka guddaka?? english matladite call center lo jobs ostai..bathiki batta kattachu..



ennallu vastayi anukuntunnaru? India full fledged service-oriented economy aithe emavutondo idea unda? Call center jobs aa lol .. avemanna permanent fixture aa? The more your economy settles down, the more your rupee value appreciates, the less chance of you "serving" english speaking nations with your call-centers .. simple econ !

and evari language vaallaki oka "identity" istundi .. adi lekapothe .. there is no point .. you are not only your slave, but is a slave of your master !
"Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda
"Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar
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Kamal:

telugodu hindi lo matladi podavalsindi emi ledu .. hindivodu telugu lo matladi podavaalsindi emi ledu .. evari respective languages lo vaallu matladukunte .. ade padivelu !


point matladehe..telugu matladite origedenti?? kooduka guddaka?? english matladite call center lo jobs ostai..bathiki batta kattachu..
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Jp_rocks:

hindi lo matladi em peekali janalu??



telugodu hindi lo matladi podavalsindi emi ledu .. hindivodu telugu lo matladi podavaalsindi emi ledu .. evari respective languages lo vaallu matladukunte .. ade padivelu !
"Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda
"Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar
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how does it help our ppl/economy if more ppl talk in hindi/telugu?? our love for english brought so many BPOs to our country...millions earn their bread n butter just coz they speak english..

how d fcuk vll hindi help?? tissue papers kuda konukkolem..

thinataniki tindi leni mana mohalaki..pakodilu avasarama??
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Kamal:

pakkana "Internet Hindus" ani oka thread vesa .. chaduvu .. soooooper asalu ..




Tammudu koncham steady ayina aturvtha vudayanee saduvthaa eminaa knowledge vuntee nerchukuntaaa.
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we got ruled by every t d and fing h and r culture took the shape of an amoeba..if anything more english speakers is good to our country..

hindi lo matladi em peekali janalu?? we dont deserve to be compared to germany n the likes....english ONLY helps our economy..

way to go..
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enduk tidutunnav .. pakkana "Internet Hindus" ani oka thread vesa .. chaduvu .. soooooper asalu ..
"Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda
"Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar
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Kamal:

Aree .. maa rajnikanth paata .. thanks ee .. :D




Tammudu Jalsa susavaaa? Dantloo ghootlee scnes guthu vundaaa.

Inkaa ardam kakapothee nenu "1,2,3 nenoka gootlee ani paadukovalo jr NTR voice laaa."
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Paga_babai_paga:

Aderaa ideraaa DB antee nuvveraaaa.



Aree .. maa rajnikanth paata .. thanks ee .. :D

Paga_babai_paga:

PS: Tammudu ani seppadam marchipoyaaa.


chadastam ekkuva ayyindi naaku malle :D
"Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda
"Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar
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Tammudu,

Aderaa ideraaa DB antee nuvveraaaa.



PS: Tammudu ani seppadam marchipoyaaa.
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Aderaa ideraaa DB antee nuvveraaaa.

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Ruj:

kamalaii..eti nee allari..inka babbokunda



aadevado .. singles meeda singles estunnadu .. vaadiki punishment istunna .. kikk
"Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda
"Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar
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Mario_puzo:

r u serious??



they are my friends in Univ .. they seriously took lessons online .. !!! Memu kalisi vaalla "broken telugu" ni vekkirinchukuni comedy kooda chesukuntaam .. I swear ! :-)

Mario_puzo:

vadulukoku, kani hindi language ki telugu culture ki tata bodi gundu avva mokalu mudi pettaku....if we are different from english we are different from hindi ante...



nenu mudi pettanu .. hindi ki telugu ki .. naaku .. telugu culture is "hindu" culture .. hindi culture is "hindu" culture .. so .. asalu problem ee ledu .. co-existence ki .. where as "english" culture is not "hindu" culture at all ..

Mario_puzo:

badha gane untundi kani tappadu desam lo middle class balisi economy grow avvatledu??


economy grow avvataaniki english kaaranam aithe .. brazil asalu develop avvakoodadu, alage japan .. mana chetagaani tanam tho english mundu vangutunname kaani .. marokati kaadu ..
"Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda
"Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar
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Zulu:

Thammudu, Rastra Bhasha or Rastriya Bhasha..I always get confused between these two..But, Hindi does have a status..Ippudu googling chese opika ledu..nuvvu chesi choodu




hindi official language..central govt dhi..but we have no national language
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Ishan:

nuvvu maamulugu ayithe ROM la untavu...nenu post veyyagaane reply isthaave?...


naaa manobhavalu neeku ayithe baaga cheppukovachu ani..
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Kamal:

I know some northies who love to speak Telugu/Tamil


r u serious??

Kamal:

exactly .. we are different men .. naaku sampadana mukhyame .. kaani culture kante kaadu .. nenu sampadana kosam culture vadulukolenu .. I am strongly attached to it ..


vadulukoku, kani hindi language ki telugu culture ki tata bodi gundu avva mokalu mudi pettaku....if we are different from english we are different from hindi ante...

Kamal:

ith english coming in between .. poorti ga nasinam aipoyindi !


badha gane untundi kani tappadu desam lo middle class balisi economy grow avvatledu??
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Mario_puzo:

same with hindi....adi naaku naa la think chese vallaki paraayi bhasha....culture lo konni parts kalisinanta matrana balavantana muddetukovalsina karma pattala.....ade english nerchukunte neeku laga naku laga nalugu dabbulu sampadinchi intlo vallani sukha pettochu....



exactly .. we are different men .. naaku sampadana mukhyame .. kaani culture kante kaadu .. nenu sampadana kosam culture vadulukolenu .. I am strongly attached to it ..

Mario_puzo:

number tagginda matlade valladi?? place di emundi tokka....


number taggaledu anukunta .. atleast with pop explosion .. chance kooda kastame .. but quality of telugu/hindi/tamil/marati .. with english coming in between .. poorti ga nasinam aipoyindi !

Mario_puzo:

I was referring to my personal experiences....kurrolla madya topic vaste, general ga ala untundi antunna...


I know some northies who love to speak Telugu/Tamil .. so I have a different perception about these language issues ..
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Kamal:

vaarini .. second most spoken language was telugu in India .. years ago .. ee thread lo initiator post choodu ardam avutundi .. stats kaava avi? llol..




number tagginda matlade valladi?? place di emundi tokka....

Kamal:

anukovachu .. kaani english paraayi bhasha .. India ki sambandam leni bhasha .. and culturally nakka ki .. naaga lokaniki unnanta teda teesukoche basha ..




same with hindi....adi naaku naa la think chese vallaki paraayi bhasha....culture lo konni parts kalisinanta matrana balavantana muddetukovalsina karma pattala.....ade english nerchukunte neeku laga naku laga nalugu dabbulu sampadinchi intlo vallani sukha pettochu....


Kamal:

tamilodu .. tamil ni preminchatam lo tappu ledu .. kaaani .. maaku delhi vaddu .. colombo muddu ante ne separatism antaaru .. we clearly know the difference .. raj thackrey gadu .. telugu/hindi speakers ni kottatam tappu .. ade marati speakers ki incentives ivvali anadam samuchitam !!!




I was referring to my personal experiences....kurrolla madya topic vaste, general ga ala untundi antunna...
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stats stats annavu ga deeniki stats ettu....neevi naavi swagatalu panjeyyav.....



vaarini .. second most spoken language was telugu in India .. years ago .. ee thread lo initiator post choodu ardam avutundi .. stats kaava avi? llol..

Mario_puzo:

ide anukovachu gaa "english" gurinchi kuda...lol.....


anukovachu .. kaani english paraayi bhasha .. India ki sambandam leni bhasha .. and culturally nakka ki .. naaga lokaniki unnanta teda teesukoche basha ..

Zulu:

Hindi is already dead for all practical purposes..what we see today is urdu passed in the garb of Hindi..


whatever .. urdu was always called hindustani .. but nenu antunnadi .. hindi/urdu will die later antunna ..

Mario_puzo:

naku telsi hindi and english are two official languages of india....currency eeda aa rendu bhashallo nu main ga rasi migilina 13 bhashallo nu cheema talayakayanta acharalto rastaru ga....hindi ni jateeya bhasha cheyyalane demandi undi.....ade naku kaledi, oka chapati gadu aa demand cheste nationalism, oka sambar gadu "why not tamil" ante vadidi regionalism, separatism...vare vah.....


1) demand undi cheyyaleduu ga .. 2) tamilodu .. tamil ni preminchatam lo tappu ledu .. kaaani .. maaku delhi vaddu .. colombo muddu ante ne separatism antaaru .. we clearly know the difference .. raj thackrey gadu .. telugu/hindi speakers ni kottatam tappu .. ade marati speakers ki incentives ivvali anadam samuchitam !!!
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Kamal:

Onslaught of English ki first antaristunna language Telugu




stats stats annavu ga deeniki stats ettu....neevi naavi swagatalu panjeyyav.....

Kamal:

nerchukovaddu .. balavantam emiti?




ide anukovachu gaa "english" gurinchi kuda...lol.....

Kamal:

there is no official status for Hindi AFAIK




naku telsi hindi and english are two official languages of india....currency eeda aa rendu bhashallo nu main ga rasi migilina 13 bhashallo nu cheema talayakayanta acharalto rastaru ga....hindi ni jateeya bhasha cheyyalane demandi undi.....ade naku kaledi, oka chapati gadu aa demand cheste nationalism, oka sambar gadu "why not tamil" ante vadidi regionalism, separatism...vare vah.....
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Kamal:

haha .. telugollu enta telugu nerchukuntunnaro manam choostune unnam .. Onslaught of English ki first antaristunna language Telugu .. not Hindi .. Hindi .. bcos of its no.of speakers .. will die later !!!




Hindi is already dead for all practical purposes..what we see today is urdu passed in the garb of Hindi..

neeku evaru chepparoo Telugu is first effected ani..naku thelisanantha varaku..nalugu english mukkalu nerchukunna bhayya gallaki evariki hindi chasavatam radu..

Hindi online news papers enthamandi chaduvutharoo..kanukkuni just compare it with Telugu.
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Mario_puzo:

mari official status(?) enduku hindi ki??? em peekindani aa status ichi anta karchu pedataru....



there is no official status for Hindi AFAIK .. Only Sanskrit is the "Raj" bhasha of India.

Hindi is one among the 18 national languages of India along with Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam, Marati, Assamese etc ..

Mario_puzo:

penta vadilutondi.....mana telugollu telugu/english anukuntunnaru....good for us...


haha .. telugollu enta telugu nerchukuntunnaro manam choostune unnam .. Onslaught of English ki first antaristunna language Telugu .. not Hindi .. Hindi .. bcos of its no.of speakers .. will die later !!!

Mario_puzo:

asalu hindi enduku vundali vayya students ki subject kinda, dani valla kalige okka upayogam ledu.....oka udyogam chuistunda?


nerchukovaddu .. balavantam emiti?
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Kamal:

Multi cultural ga ne undali/untundi .. Hindu Nation .. not Hindi nation .. !!! Bharat was so always and thats the Bharat we want to protect .. not Hindi .. !!!




mari official status(?) enduku hindi ki??? em peekindani aa status ichi anta karchu pedataru....

nehru time congress bhayapadindi gani....leka pote oka ussr, oka srilanka, oka bangladesh hindi ni mari balavantamga ruddeddamani chuste....

andukane they chose the other option....ee thread lo evaro cheppinattu christians laga tadi guddesi gontu kose type smiley face tho ne ekkincheddamani trying...

penta vadilutondi.....mana telugollu telugu/english anukuntunnaru....good for us...

asalu hindi enduku vundali vayya students ki subject kinda, dani valla kalige okka upayogam ledu.....oka udyogam chuistunda?
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Zulu:

To me Telugu is "The Indian" language..marithi is "The Indian" language for maharatrians..punjabi is "The Indian" language for punjabis and so on..and thats how it should be..



I totally agree ..

Zulu:

I am not one one of those people..who while bowing their heads to hindi..will be content feeling "atleast I am speaking an Indian language"..No..No..not me..never.


Even I am not such person ..

naa language preferences .. 1) Telugu 2) Hindi 3) English
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Kamal:




I agree with most of your points regarding english and our subservient attitude towards english..

To me Telugu is "The Indian" language..marithi is "The Indian" language for maharatrians..punjabi is "The Indian" language for punjabis and so on..and thats how it should be..

I am not one one of those people..who while bowing their heads to hindi..will be content feeling "atleast I am speaking an Indian language"..No..No..not me..never.
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Ishan:

he he they are minnows compared to sanathana dharma. Brother, we must realize that sanathana dharma is not a hypothesis or theory or personal perspective of some thing metaphysical. Its the ultimate truth. That is the truth every sentient and insentient being is pursuing knowingly, unknowingly. We have stood the most difficult times in history. Cultural invasion, nah, its nothing. Ever wondered whu NRIs have been more hinduistic than Indians?



Thats because .. when you live in unnatural habitats than yours, you try to go back to your roots. Cultural invasion is a reality. You cannot deny it, unless you have a logic. I can show you 1000 ways how .. Indian culture is fast eroding .. and lastly, no body is a minnow .. especially .. the world conquering Romans and the Persians .. no way .. but Hindutva has a strong root is a fact and only that saved us from the onslaught all through the millenia even though there was no conscious effort, but times changed .. materialism is rampant .. and you cannot sit now and be the same way you were 100 years ago ..
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Jalsa:

English matladakoodadha?




Kamal:

It is my hypothesis that the fundamental source of conflict in this new world will not be primarily ideological or primarily economic. The great divisions among humankind and the dominating source of conflict will be cultural. Nation-states will remain the most powerful actors in world affairs, but the principal conflicts of global politics will occur between nations and groups of different civilizations. The clash of civilizations will dominate global politics. The fault lines between civilizations will be the battle lines of the future.




Culture subjugation lo part ee .. imposition of foreign languages in the name of economy and globalization .. when Indian languages are defeated .. Indian culture ceases to exist !!!

Zulu:

why is this urge to make India a Hindi nation? Multi cultural ga undochu kada? Isnt that what "Bharath" was during her "glorious years"..



Multi cultural ga ne undali/untundi .. Hindu Nation .. not Hindi nation .. !!! Bharat was so always and thats the Bharat we want to protect .. not Hindi .. !!!
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annai..mana constitutionlo rastra bhasha anedi emi ledu kadha....




Thammudu, Rastra Bhasha or Rastriya Bhasha..I always get confused between these two..But, Hindi does have a status..Ippudu googling chese opika ledu..nuvvu chesi choodu
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nuvvu maamulugu ayithe ROM la untavu...nenu post veyyagaane reply isthaave?...
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Kamal:

Mayans, Romans, Persians ..


he he they are minnows compared to sanathana dharma. Brother, we must realize that sanathana dharma is not a hypothesis or theory or personal perspective of some thing metaphysical. Its the ultimate truth. That is the truth every sentient and insentient being is pursuing knowingly, unknowingly. We have stood the most difficult times in history. Cultural invasion, nah, its nothing. Ever wondered whu NRIs have been more hinduistic than Indians?
...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtlrBziyzI
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Iamim:

it has been imposed on the rest of nation in a most shameless manner..




facts chepithe stats antadu kamal..ela sachedi?

Hindi imposition messed our minds us so much that..today we are in such a state that we dont even agree that hindi was imposed on us..

kamal..classical language ante Telugu sanskrit and tamil deserve that status..daniki money spend chesina thappu ledu..

veyyella charithra ledu..Hindi meeda enduku kharchu pettaru?..

why is this urge to make India a Hindi nation? Multi cultural ga undochu kada? Isnt that what "Bharath" was during her "glorious years"..
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Kamal tammmudu, aa sunil icon endhuku vesavu?

English matladakoodadha?
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Hindi ni English dominate cheyyatam kanna telugu dominate cheyyatam better ani okka..okkadante okka cowbelt gaditho oppinchu appudu post cheyyi ilanti comments..



point ee..chachina oppukoru....
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Hindi speakers .. Independence mundu ki .. Independence taravata ki India lo perigaaru ani evidence unda?




Why will Hindi speakers increase??

The outreach of Hindi increased by leaps and bounds.. it has been imposed on the rest of nation in a most shameless manner.. just like in USSR.. after USSR burst.. the rest of cultures reasserted themselves...
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nenu maathram english domination kanna hindi domination ee better anukunta..




Hindi ni English dominate cheyyatam kanna telugu dominate cheyyatam better ani okka..okkadante okka cowbelt gaditho oppinchu appudu post cheyyi ilanti comments..

'Indian'ness anedi oka combined responsibility..aa mask lo south ni dobbindi chaalu..
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kallu mooskunte evidence kanapadadhu..



ya .. nenu kallu moosukunna ani oppukunta .. adi vere vishayam .. nenu adugutunnadi .. kanisam pro-telugu orgz emanna survey/studies chesaya? research chesaya? basis undali kada .. English .. Indian languages ni tinestondi anadaaniki boledu evidences unnayi ..

alage funds kooda Telugu ki pracheena basha status ivvadam valla 100 crores per year .. aa okka status valla karchupedutunnaru .. adi kakunda .. state govt kooda year ki 100-200 crores karchupedutondi .. whats wrong?

Ika maa nanna ki vachu, naaku vachu ante .. raani vaallu enni lakshalu .. edo exam pass avvadam tho vachinattu kaadu .. maa amma ki Hindi lo tana peru raasukovadam kooda radu .. kani 10th lo Hindi pass ayyindi .. inka matladadam aithe asalu radu .. alanti vaallu boledu mandi desam lo .. nenu adugutunnadi .. emanna stats unte .. nee tho paatu nenu kooda hate chesta Hindi ni .. ivvu antunna ..
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Rastra bhasha anedi special status..tax payer money from all over country go towards that cause..





annai..mana constitutionlo rastra bhasha anedi emi ledu kadha....
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Hindi vere languages ni mingestondi anedi basis leni vaadana ..




Ya ya..right..right!!

kallu mundu kanipisthunna nijalu vodhilesi pusthakallo evidenculu vethukuthunnatha kalam alage vuntundi..LOL
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oka russian russia bhashalone matladuthadu..

germanylo juice dabba nundi prathidee german bhashalone untundhi..
china lo computers kooda chinese bhashalone untayi..

indian lo mathram mana bhasha tappa verevi nerchukotaniki matladataniki mozu ekkuva.. bharatha bhashalu kaakunda veredhi edhi nerchukune vaadu educated anatuu..

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Kamal:

evaru chepparu? beyond Hindi belt .. Hindi ekkada vinapadadu .. Hindi speakers .. Independence mundu ki .. Independence taravata ki India lo perigaaru ani evidence unda?




kallu mooskunte evidence kanapadadhu..

Maa thatha gariki Hindi radu..nannagariki vochu..naku inka baaga vochu..

emkavalayya bongulo evidence neeku?..10 years school lo hindi neruchukunte raada?..LOL..

Rastra bhasha anedi special status..tax payer money from all over country go towards that cause..

Its not the case with Telugu, marathi..or any other regional language..
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nenu maathram english domination kanna hindi domination ee better anukunta..kaneesam telugu pothe hindi ayina brathuku tundhi..bharatha bhoomi meedha puttina bhasha ani ananda padachu....ee english domination valla anni indian bhashalu sanka naakuthunayi..



same feeling .. though naa varaku naaku .. Hindi vere languages ni mingestondi anedi basis leni vaadana ..
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Ishan:

Its just a paranoia that any Indian language is losing to english. Hindu languages are inseparable from the culture. Hinduism will flourish as long as this earth survives. As long as hinduism survives, hindu languages will do also. A true hindu knows this.



Sorry to say .. Hinduism survival ki evadanna insurance chesada? kasta padakapothe edi nilavadu .. thats a fact .. Mayans, Romans, Persians .. every body learned !!!
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nenu maathram english domination kanna hindi domination ee better anukunta..kaneesam telugu pothe hindi ayina brathuku tundhi..bharatha bhoomi meedha puttina bhasha ani ananda padachu....ee english domination valla anni indian bhashalu sanka naakuthunayi..
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DD early days marchipoyava?..palle pallalaki Hindi theesukellindi DD..Ippudu lakkoleka peekkoleka chasthunnam..



evaru chepparu? beyond Hindi belt .. Hindi ekkada vinapadadu .. Hindi speakers .. Independence mundu ki .. Independence taravata ki India lo perigaaru ani evidence unda?

Zulu:

Evadabba sommani tax payer money tho Rajyabhasha development ki karchupeduthunnaru?


Telugu development ki .. Kannada, Marati annitiki karchupedutunnaru ga .. emaina stats unte matladukundaam bias sangati ..
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Ishan:

Its just a paranoia that any Indian language is losing to english. Hindu languages are inseparable from the culture. Hinduism will flourish as long as this earth survives. As long as hinduism survives, hindu languages will do also. A true hindu knows this.




akkada nedu hydlo 60% mandiki telugu chadavatam rayatam raadhu ishan bhayya..nedu manam maatladutondhi telugu kaadu..tenglish...
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Its just a paranoia that any Indian language is losing to english. Hindu languages are inseparable from the culture. Hinduism will flourish as long as this earth survives. As long as hinduism survives, hindu languages will do also. A true hindu knows this.
...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you...
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Kamal:

Telugu and Hindi both are losing to English is the only fact that is proved !




Evaru prove chesaru lol..

neeku arthamayye bhasha lo cheppalante English is like islam..everyone knows that they are aggressive..everyone knows they are a threat..

but Hindi is like christianity..musugu lo conversions..gajji nakos..
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Kamal:

aapesey .. Hindi Nation ani okka document teesukuni raa .. lekapothe aa suspicion glasses teeseyyi ..




Evadabba sommani tax payer money tho Rajyabhasha development ki karchupeduthunnaru?

DD early days marchipoyava?..palle pallalaki Hindi theesukellindi DD..Ippudu lakkoleka peekkoleka chasthunnam..

karunanidhi gadu emante nakenti? ademanna thopu gada? lol
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Kamal:

Telugu and Hindi both Indian languages are losing to English ..




Antha ledu..

Hindi is losing to English..

Hindi is losing to Telugu..

Hindi is losing to Bengali..

Hindi is losing to Marathi.. Gujarathi.. Tamil.. Malayalam.. Odissi.. Punjabi.. what not..

Thanks to liberalization.. regional culture.. regional languages.. are enjoying a renaissance..

The grave threat of Hindization has been averted..
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Zulu:

Telugu is loosing from both Hindi..and english. More from Hindi is what i believe



I do not believe that telugu is losing to Hindi .. Telugu and Hindi both are losing to English is the only fact that is proved !
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Kamal:

Telugu and Hindi both Indian languages are losing to English ..




Telugu is loosing from both Hindi..and english. More from Hindi is what i believe

I see Hindi as an enemy..a weaker enemy always gives me a high!! go down suckers!!!
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Zulu:

Hindi Nation ani mathram declare cheyyaku..nuvvu cheyyavulee..but chese batch kooda undi..kiki



aapesey .. Hindi Nation ani okka document teesukuni raa .. lekapothe aa suspicion glasses teeseyyi .. Karunanidhi gade anti-Hindi fight manesadu because .. there is no reason to fight ..
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Nihil:

Nuvveti sesedendi vayya- Austin lo vuntav.. inapagajjela ekambaranivi. edo okati seyyi. at least nalugurni dokkalo tanni dikki lo thongobettu.




naneti cheyyalenu..nuvvu India Hindu Nation ani declare cheyyi..nenu zindabad kodatha..

Hindi Nation ani mathram declare cheyyaku..nuvvu cheyyavulee..but chese batch kooda undi..kiki
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Telugu and Hindi both Indian languages are losing to English .. not just either of the languages !!! It is the "Indian" languages as a whole from Hindi to Telugu to Malayalam to Bengali .. that are losing .. LOL
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Nuvveti sesedendi vayya- Austin lo vuntav.. inapagajjela ekambaranivi. edo okati seyyi. at least nalugurni dokkalo tanni dikki lo thongobettu.
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Kamal:

Language is a big part of Culture ..




kadani evadannadu? Hindi maa language kadu..maa culture kadu..mee bonguloo cowbelt culture maa meeda rudhadhu anekada anedi?
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Kamal:

Language is a big part of Culture ..




Hindi is not part of Telugu culture..
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It is my hypothesis that the fundamental source of conflict in this new world will not be primarily ideological or primarily economic. The great divisions among humankind and the dominating source of conflict will be cultural. Nation-states will remain the most powerful actors in world affairs, but the principal conflicts of global politics will occur between nations and groups of different civilizations. The clash of civilizations will dominate global politics. The fault lines between civilizations will be the battle lines of the future.

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do —— The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order, p. 51.




By Samuel P Huntington, the famous US Political Scientist !!!

Language is a big part of Culture ..
"Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda
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maa thikkalolla sangathi thelusu kadha..naneti chesthanu..cheppu

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Zulu- nee tassaravvala boddu, Texas lo endi intha racha settanav, first dani sangathi choodu

TEXAS TEXTBOOK MASSACRE- National media lo ekkada choosina ee gole

School kids ki ee pathalu anta:

1. Separation of church and state is gone and they are going to learn that US is a christian nation- Thomas Jefferson peru teesi John Calvin ( swiss protestant and an icon for the right ) - LOL

2. Darwin evolution theory tho equal ga creationism anta- Bible, flood etc etc the full works - LOL

abbo ittlanti sitralu chala vunnay- media is having a field day and i am lauging my arse off

Malla ee US gallu India ki pathalu cheppadam - religion, freedom, Lafvada ani

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Telugu and english chaalu..E thokkalo Hindi sankanakipothe nenenduku badha padali?

English is not a threat to telugu..majority of telugus are smart enough to realize that english is a foriegn language,and we clearly restrict it to certain areas..

Hindi is like a venoumous snake, It comes with a mask of "The Indian" language,..patriotism..cultural nationalism and all that bullshit propaganda..the faster we realize it..the safer we are..
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Zulu.. ganthulu yethannav ga- pandaga chesuko :D

Danemma Hindi- Telugu and then English anthe
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tokkalo hindo pote poindi ..telugu is behind bengal ane point ardham katalledu sarihadduki avathala janalni kalipesaru anukunta ..
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Iamim:

Due to DD monopoly.. Central govt jobs.. people were compelled to learn Hindi.. no longer.. wont be long.. Hindi would be confined to gawar gau belt bhaiyas..

People are no longer constrained to watch Hindi channels.. what with 30 Telugu channels.. no time to watch even Telugu channels..

People are no longer interested to learn Hindi.. what with govt jobs no longer attractive..

Parents are preferring Telugu for kids.. muthyallaga rasthunte mucchatesthunnadi..





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Kamal:

ya .. future generations lo .. "Indian English" lo Meghasandesam raase kavulu vastaru ..




Meghasandesam was written in Sanskrit..

Now the war is between Hindi and regional languages..

Now the war is between Hindi and English..

Due to DD monopoly.. Central govt jobs.. people were compelled to learn Hindi.. no longer.. wont be long.. Hindi would be confined to gawar gau belt bhaiyas..

People are no longer constrained to watch Hindi channels.. what with 30 Telugu channels.. no time to watch even Telugu channels..

People are no longer interested to learn Hindi.. what with govt jobs no longer attractive..

Parents are preferring Telugu for kids.. muthyallaga rasthunte mucchatesthunnadi..

Why such opposition towards English anyway..

English is also Indo-European language..

English Vowels = Telugu Acchulu.. simple...
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pattern is the cause for worry .. hindi top aa .. telugu top aa kaadu ..


Dont worry, India would never become a totally english speaking country. Its impossible. Moreover, nothing wrong with the pattern. Most of the Indians are trilingual and english is and should be one among those languages.
...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you...
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Ishan:

Still Hindi tops kada? why worry?



pattern is the cause for worry .. hindi top aa .. telugu top aa kaadu ..

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ya .. future generations lo .. "Indian English" lo Meghasandesam raase kavulu vastaru ..
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A new English to suit dialects
Rashmee Roshan Lall, TNN, Mar 7, 2008, 12.10am IST

LONDON: David Crystal, one of the world's foremost experts and of the English Language, says the way Indian's speak the language may become a key part of new Standard English.

Crystal predicted English would eventually become a family of languages, just as Latin did a thousand years ago.

Speaking on growth and evolution of English language, he said: "In much the same way as regional dialects developed, as English grows around the world it is immediately adapted to suit the local circumstances. There are older varieties of English such as American, South African, Australian, and emerging varieties like Nigerian, Ghanaian and Singaporean."

These dialects are so individual, Crystal cautioned, that other English speakers would need a global Standard English.

This is a phenomenon called diaglossia with "the new dialects expressing local attitudes which people feel very strongly about as a way of expressing who they are" and newspapers and textbooks maintaining "international intelligibility".

Crystal's lecture was held to launch the campaign for "The English Project", which is planned as the world's first living museum dedicated to the history and evolution of the English language.
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bad news for BJP ani ardam ayyinda? lol .. its bad news for "Bharat" .. inka mee zindabad program kaanivvandi ..




Indian English will conquer globe: Expert
RASHMEE ROSHAN LALL, TNN, Mar 7, 2008, 12.07am IST

LONDON: English will fragment into "global dialects", forcing speakers routinely to learn two varieties of the language — one spoken in their home country and a new kind of Standard English with pronounced Indian characteristics, a leading expert on English has said.

The new Standard English, which will be understood globally, would be necessary if the growing ranks of English-speakers around the world are to understand each other, said Professor David Crystal, one of the world's foremost experts and author of the Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language.

The new Standard English's likely Indian characteristics would signify the end of the primacy of American English. Future users of global Standard English might routinely say "I am thinking it's going to rain" rather than the British "I think it's going to rain", said Crystal.

"In language, numbers count. There are more people speaking English in India than in the rest of the native English-speaking world. Even now, if you ring a call centre, often it's an Indian voice you hear at the end of the phone. As the Indian economy grows, so might the influence of Indian English," he explained.

Because Indians tend to "use the present continuous where we would use the present simple (with an Indian saying) 'I am thinking, I am feeling, I am seeing' rather than 'I think, I feel, I see'... this way of speaking could easily become sexy and part of global Standard English," said the professor, who has written more than 100 books.
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In 3 yrs, English rises to No. 2 medium
Rema Nagarajan, TNN, Dec 5, 2009, 05.03am IST


While the Marathi manoos and various others fight over the supremacy of languages, English has quietly marched on and become the second largest medium in India's primary schools, after Hindi.

In 2006, English as a medium of instruction was fourth -- behind Hindi, Bengali and Marathi in that order -- but by 2007 it had climbed to second place and grew even further in 2008, beginning to eat into the Hindi numbers too (see detailed report in the latest edition of TOI-Crest).

Regional language medium schools have witnessed steady erosion in their share over the years, and in some cases even in the absolute numbers, as parents seem to have decided that English is the passport to a bright future for their children.

Data collected by the National University for Education Planning and Administration (NUEPA) as a part of DISE, the monitoring system developed for the Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan programme, shows that the number of those opting for English medium from class I-VIII has grown by 150% between 2003 and 2008, while the number of students opting for Hindi grew by just 32%.

The count for 2008 is more robust than in previous years, says NUEPA. Of the total number of students surveyed by DISE, about 18.8 crore, data on the medium of instruction was available for over 92%. "The quality of data and its collection has vastly improved. However, the data pertains only to recognized schools. In most states, there are thousands of unrecognized schools, most of which are English-medium schools. Hence, the number of those studying in English-medium schools could actually be even higher," says Prof Arun Mehta of NUEPA.

The states with the highest number of students in English-medium schools have remained unchanged from 2004 till 2008 -- Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu and Maharashtra. In the two top states, almost a fifth of all enrolled students are studying in English-medium schools. The top three are followed by Jammu & Kashmir, Karnataka and Kerala in that order. Madhya Pradesh is the lone Hindi-speaking state in the list of the top 10 states in terms of enrolment in English medium.

The highest jump in the number of English-medium students between 2004 and 2008 was in Maharashtra, about 11 lakh, followed by Andhra Pradesh (9.7 lakh), Tamil Nadu (9.6 lakh), Delhi (5.5 lakh) and Jammu and Kashmir about 5 lakh.

Earlier, in 2006, most of the growth in English was in the southern states, barring Punjab and Gujarat, which also showed a jump in numbers. However, by 2008, many of the northern states too have joined the rush for English schooling. For instance, Haryana has recorded the highest growth, with the number of children in English-medium schools going up more than seven times between 2004 and 2008, from over 20,000 to 1.6 lakh.

Similarly, in Rajasthan, students opting for English schooling increased more than three times, from over 60,000 in 2004 to nearly 2.2 lakh by 2008. The growth between 2007 and 2008 alone was 130%.

Again, in Madhya Pradesh, the number of students opting for English schooling almost trebled from 1.6 lakh to 4.8 lakh. In Delhi, well over a third (37%) of all enrolled children are in English-medium schools while the proportion of those in Hindi medium has fallen from 76% to 61% between 2004 and 2008. As before, Punjab and Gujarat show substantial growth in English schooling with the number doubling in Punjab and going up more than three times in Gujarat.
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Still Hindi tops kada? why worry?
...and I am never gonna dance again...guilty feet I have got no rhythm...though its easy to pretend...I know you are not a fool...I should've known better than to cheat a friend...wasted chance that I'been given...so I am never gonna dance again...the way I danced with you...
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bad news for BJP ani ardam ayyinda? lol .. its bad news for "Bharat" .. inka mee zindabad program kaanivvandi ..
"Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda
"Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar
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Yeah.. definitely bad news for BJP..

An English thinking.. English speaking person is a bad news for BJP...
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"Each nation has an identity and destiny. As far as Bharat is concerned, Hindu is its identity and religion is its way of working" - Swami Vivekananda
"Embracing Islam or Christianity would have meant going away from the cultural soil of India, which I do not wish to do." - Dr. B.R. Ambedkar
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Indiaspeak: English is our 2nd language
TNN, Mar 14, 2010, 12.20am IST

More Indians speak English than any other language, with the sole exception of Hindi. What's more, English speakers in India outnumber those in all of western Europe, not counting the United Kingdom. And Indian English-speakers are more than twice the UK's population.

These facts emerge from recently released census 2001 data on bilingualism and trilingualism in India. Indians' linguistic prowess stood revealed with as many as 255 million speaking at least two languages and 87.5 million speaking three or more. In other words, about a quarter of the population speaks more than one language.

English was the primary language for barely 2.3 lakh Indians at the time of the census, more than 86 million listed it as their second language and another 39 million as their third language. This puts the number of English speakers in India at the time to more than 125 million.

The only language that had more speakers was Hindi with 551.4 million. This includes 422 million, who list it as the primary language, 98.2 million for whom it was a second language and 31.2 million who listed it as their third.

The rise of English puts Bengali, once India's second largest language in terms of primary speakers, in distant third place. Those who spoke Bengali as their first, second or third language add up to 91.1 million, far behind English.

Telugu with 85 million speakers in all and Marathi with 84.2 million retain their position behind Bengali as does Tamil with 66.7 million and Urdu with 59 million.

Gujarati now falls behind Kannada though it has a sizeable number of primary speakers — 6.1 million — compared to Kannada's 37.9 million.

Karnataka's linguistic diversity means that many list other languages as their first and Kannada as a second language. This adds 11.5 million to the ranks of Kannada speakers and another 1.4 million use it as a third language. In total, Kannada had 50.8 million speakers in 2001 compared to Gujarati's 50.3 million.

Oriya overtakes Malayalam thanks to the 3.3 million people who listed it as their second language and 3.2 lakh who said it was their third language.

The total number of Oriya speakers was 36.6 million against 33.8 million who spoke Malayalam. Punjabi, with 31.4 million speakers, and Assamese with 18.9 million are among India's most spoken languages.

Unfortunately, the census asked people to list a maximum of three languages, so it is not known how many speak more languages.

The data covers only those over five because the census assumed that younger children would only know their mother tongue.

As expected, urban Indians are more likely to be multi-lingual but as many as 136.7 million rural Indians speak at least two languages.

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