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     Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 4277 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
My bad..just read the abstract...will go through | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2352 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.235.198 Rating: N/A |
Read my post again, I didn't say its not related to the body. But it is directly related to the brain which controls your entire body. So meditation and body are indirectly related. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4 | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2351 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.235.198 Rating: N/A |
Yes, in case of isothermal systems, entropy is actually inversely proportional to temperature. But human physiological conditions are different. If you read the article I referred below, they showed that entropy levels of the body change differently during different environmental conditions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4 | ||
| Veeragandham_apparao Junior Artist Username: Veeragandham_apparao Post Number: 216 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 68.206.118.22 Rating: N/A |
Meditation body ki relate kadu ani olu sepparu....YES it is related 2 body also....BUT ippudunna prapancham lo pizaa burgers ee tini brathike pepancham lo....its NOT related so related that way it was before.... Ullipaya Thokka teeyadaniki Katthi kavala Blade kavala..!! Bal sinma chudadaniki Oopika kavala,Dhiryam Kavala..!! oka frined selavicharu: ooopika tho koodina dhairyam valla vachey vairagyam | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 4276 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
Not necessarily true.and its a common misconception...there is a caveat that needs to be exercised....the temp certainly raises while u exercise....and there is a simultaneous transfer of heat out of the body too....the net temperature is just not the reflection of the intrinsic heat alone, it also depends on the heat capacity of the body involved.. Entropy is the measure of the degrees of freedom of an ensemble as opposed to the standard caloric definition of heat alone....when u actually exercise the heat generated is dissipated very quickly....driving a net decrement in the entropic content of the body hence the feeling of settledness when u work out... But ur idea is right fundamentally | ||
| Veeragandham_apparao Junior Artist Username: Veeragandham_apparao Post Number: 214 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 68.206.118.22 Rating: N/A |
nenu idhi oka way anna anthe gani...dharmam seppindi ani seppaledhuu... Ullipaya Thokka teeyadaniki Katthi kavala Blade kavala..!! Bal sinma chudadaniki Oopika kavala,Dhiryam Kavala..!! oka frined selavicharu: ooopika tho koodina dhairyam valla vachey vairagyam | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2348 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.235.198 Rating: N/A |
Entropy is directly proportional to the temperature. During exercise, the whole body heats up and hence raise in entropy. Normal human beings have higher entropy because of dissipation of energy in all directions. During meditation, you focus on an object and direct your energy on to it. Hence, there is lots of order in it. Moreover, meditation is primarily related to brain as compared to exercise which deals with the whole body. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4 | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 4274 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: |
eti babu....idhi ye dharmam septundhi seppu plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz this is called lawlessness and is the central thesis for atheism | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 4273 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
Awesome that even reinforces the case for meditation..but anna....physiologically when one exerts...there is a parasympathetic withdrawal of heart rate right...i.e the overall load on the body decreases...even though high amounts of heat is generated...and people often xpress the same settled feelign as that in meditation...then why is this reversal of entropic flow?? | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2347 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.235.198 Rating: |
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4 | ||
| Veeragandham_apparao Junior Artist Username: Veeragandham_apparao Post Number: 211 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 68.206.118.22 Rating: N/A |
Twitter aai...mana India lo okka manchi ishaym undi ante naaku telsi adhi meditation ee....cheyi rechipo...kanio emi expect cheyaku...there are 3 things in life 1). happy ga undadam: what ever happens- good for u or bad 4 u.... 2). try to achieve your goal by any means-ante no morals no ethics 3). happy ga untu try to achieve your goal- but even if you can't reach your goal still u r happy... Edi kavalo meere decide karo... Ullipaya Thokka teeyadaniki Katthi kavala Blade kavala..!! Bal sinma chudadaniki Oopika kavala,Dhiryam Kavala..!! oka frined selavicharu: ooopika tho koodina dhairyam valla vachey vairagyam | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2345 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.235.198 Rating: N/A |
Hmmm...I am not sure about this. But yes, you are right about the decrease in entropy of brain during meditation. But, during exercise, entropy actually increases. I think that aura we see at the back of saintly people's heads depicted in figures is nothing but the radiation emitted during meditation. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2232826 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4 | ||
| Junior Artist Username: Twitter Post Number: 230 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 67.84.98.23 Rating: N/A |
thed motham follow avvaledhu ..inthaki meditation cheyyatam manchidha kaadha ?? | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 4270 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
chus ee charlatan BS entra babu...I ask strong nad inconvenient Q's ani manaki maname certify seskutam evito..first signs of a quack in the making.. Ishan anna, the point is that even in the traditional realm of emperical experimentation albiet dealing only with the motto of proving the false positive that Meditation decreases the physical entropy of the EM unit called brain will yield the said result...that after meditation the net heat and magnetic field activity content of ones brain decreases (2/3 of body heat is centered here)....and there have been studies that correlated it with the increased temperatures around the brain. Exercising also produces the similar results but with a strong difference...i.e exercise is not generative process as in repeated trials with exercising showed decreasing trend in drop of entropy owing to exhaustion and muscle wear and inertia ( thereby making the body weak) but with meditation the trend showed a high negative correlation wherein the brain's entropy repeatedly followed the entropic decline yet the body maintaining a healthy blood flow rate | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2342 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.235.198 Rating: N/A |
You raise a very important point here. Yes, Longitudinal studies are the best and most coveted and authentic in science. I am not sure if any of the links in this thread refer to such studies. But absolute validity of such studies require such experimental methods. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4 | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 4269 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
Anna...........................  ori devuda...meditation chesthe irreversible physiological effects untaya......demuda....................... Human brain has a very strong magnetic field generated by the physio chemical reaction inside the head...There has been a study that is not LONGITUDINAL that showed a strong correlation between enlarged size of the grey matter in the brain and the ability to meditate....But since it is not longitudinal , there is no evidence whether people who are capable of TRUE meditation actually had more brain matter to start with or if meditation helped in the grey matter growth..... Overall, there was this tremendous reduction in the Magnetic field strength after meditation..... | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 6934 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 32.144.27.242 Rating: N/A |
Mrhyd,  chusanu - and it's hardly news to me. I express strong opinions and ask inconvenient questions -two strikes against popularity aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mrhyderabad Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 5208 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.120 Rating: |
pakka thread choodandi DB lo meeku enta following vundo telustundi  If god doesn't like the way I live, let him tell me, not you | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 6933 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Do not disagree with that ...My point of giving the link was only to look at both sides of the coin...We tout the benefits of meditation and give scientific studies about brain physiology changes as evidence for those benefits ...enta sepu meditation cheste relaxation, stress relief ane vintamu - nenu DB lone chala mandi ki recommend chesanu - kani we just like anything else that causes physiology changes meditation can potentially have un-intended side effects as well anedi kuda teliyali kada And people who meditate need to keep an eye out for those effects and scale back if needed...
I am not getting into that debate of the utility of the exercise - In any non-material pursuit what's useful to one is trash to another aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1132 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 174.120.248.18 Rating: N/A |
thank you for the link Andi. I am still not convinced about the original argument presented. The articles given by you and me suggest the same thing pretty much about Medication causing the effect as described in the articles. From your point of view it seems a mere cause and effect I go one step further and say that is the way to feel the oneness with universe. ofcourse it might not fit your pragmatic scale. To call it a futile or some self serving exercise is not correct because If I would say that the rishi's of the yore used to medicate and gave great sciences to mankind tammud would come back and say hogwash. "We are enriched by our reciprocate differences" - same poet. | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2335 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: |
Sorry that should have been other way round. An infinite circle is a straight line. The circle analogy is still valid, just delete 'infinite' in it. First, you can not generate new knowledge. Second, its unknown if the bliss induced by drugs and controlled meditation are equally blissful. To answer your question why one has to aspire it, its simple - for leading a better life. You can use the powers and knowledge acquired for good causes. All the good side-effects of meditation are also achieved. It is also aspired for breaking the circle of pleasure and pain, probably because you will get a sense of taking defeat and victory in the same spirit. Achieving that state by any other means will destroy you because you cant control such powers. Many side effects kick in like ego boosting, insane thoughts, narcissism etc and there is an immense danger in using them for bad causes or damage of the individual. Thats why methodical training by a teacher is essential. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4 | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 27 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 71.126.25.130 Rating: N/A |
buddhavataram ani oorike anaru kadaa ;) The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 6932 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Love that signature - precisely why I think a healthy dose of skepticism is a must for everyone aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 6931 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Thanks, I have seen 2 of them before - springerlink chudaledu so will check that out. But here's something I was referring to ... Dr. Andrew Newberg of the University of Pennsylvania scanned the brains of long-term practitioners of Buddhism while they were meditating and compared them with images taken when they were not. Newberg saw that blood flow to the posterior superior parietal lobe decreased during meditation. This area of the brain determines the boundaries of one's body in relation to the environment and allows us to navigate a complex three-dimensional world without bumping into things. "We know that the posterior superior parietal lobe plays that particular role because there are patients with damage in this same region who literally cannot move around without falling," Newberg reports. "They'll miss the chair they intended to sit on, and generally have a fuzzy understanding of where their body ends and the rest of the universe begins." He says that when people have spiritual experiences and feel they become one with the universe and lose their sense of self, it may be because of what is happening in that area of the brain. "If you block that area, you lose that boundary between the self and the rest of the world." Source: http://www.thehumanist.org/humanist/MaryGarden.html Also we know that meditation gives emotional stability and helps reduce impulsive responses, I would think by reducing the amygdala reaction... but on the flip side does it also reduce the speed of reflexes ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 26 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 71.126.25.130 Rating: N/A |
What purpose does this control of a sage on his mental imagery serve? Let us agree that he can control his experience of bliss/transcendence/etc.. But what is the point of such an experience in the larger sense? Does the experience help the sage generate new knowledge? If so, what is that knowledge? Why should we aspire for such an experience apart from the need for bliss (which can as well be drug-induced)? The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 2566 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 173.49.92.228 Rating: N/A |
Nanau yemi anpisthundi ante..1000 mandi pichi vaalla madhyana oka normal perosn ni oka room lo padesthee..Pichi vaallu andaru kudaa manchi vaadini pichi vaadu anukontaaru."Manam anthaa oka rakam aa vunte.vidu okkade abnormal gaa vunnaadu. Vidu pichodu.Manam telivigala vaallam" ani decide chesthaaru. Idi kudaa anthe.. | ||
| Mrhyderabad Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 5191 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.120 Rating: N/A |
How? Konchem layman terms explain cheyandi if possible. If god doesn't like the way I live, let him tell me, not you | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2334 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
Good links anna, thanks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4 | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2332 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: |
Two extremes of any phenomenon always look alike. It might appear that spirituality can be attained by drugs, mental disorders and surgeries. But the pivotal word here is "control". If you can't control it, you are insane and if you can, you are sage. That difference is not small difference. A yogi sits like a rock and a rock, well, sits like a rock. But there is a infinite difference between them. An infinite straight line is a circle. The joining points are at the same position, you would think. But One point is just there and the other has traveled infinite distance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4 | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1126 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 174.120.248.18 Rating: N/A |
psyorg lo oka article chadivanu some time back, there are number of articles on this including metabolism changes .. here are some links but i am sure you might have seen some of these already before you brought up this topic http://www.physorg.com/news10312.html http://www.springerlink.com/content/u3v67723k3n14765/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1361002/ | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 6930 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
I caution people against going headlong into these practices too early because though some parts are reversible, some are one-way tickets even for seasoned practitioners Meditation induces physiological changes in the brain....increasing density/volumes of certain parts of the brain -hippocampus, orbito-frontal cortex,thalamus etc...which is all great .. but I wonder where is that additional space in the skull for selective brain expansion coming from ... is this growth happening at the detriment of other parts of the brain ? Physiological change may not be reversible - so moderation would be very critical I think Do you know of any studies on the impact on the total brain structure ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1123 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 174.120.248.18 Rating: N/A |
context of the thread is wrong.
ninna ishtadaivam thread lo nenu oka link pettanu that discussed similar concept with use of drugs.
total ga generalize cheyadam is not right. As you pointed out meditation and yoga helps in controlling certain parts of your brain that leads to these kind of experiences. the research article given in the thread yesterday points out a similar experience using drugs that block of these faculties leading to those experiences. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 6929 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Enduku andi anta defensive ga respond avutunnaru Think about it - people who do not have one sense/perception say sight usually have a keener sense of hearing, touch and so on... basically the energy that would have been used on the non-functioning sense gets diverted to the functioning ones in the brain... Spatial relationships shut off ayite kani meeru meditation lo kuda transcend avvaleru...The only difference is that a practioner is able to control when the sections of the brain are shut-off /activated... Like I said yesterday in the ishtadaivam thread ,I think its a matter of tuning your receiver frequency and amplification .. when the rest of the brain quiets down, the signals received by the active part are amplified and can be perceived aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 6928 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
I have the same skepticism And I also suspect it is hereditary... But I agree ont he part about attenuated brain function being a pre-requisite for these experiences...Meditation is a means to reduce activity in certain parts of the brain and concentrate activity in others - looks like surgical removal acheives the same function... Also most unsolicited OBEs happen in the half awake state ... when the spatial perception is not yet fully active aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1119 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 174.120.248.18 Rating: N/A |
what is the point? does it suggest all the enlightened one's are brain damaged? are buddha, mahavir brain damaged? extreme spirituality is a form of obsession ani some people argue. its a state of mind ante. osho tried to achieve that using various means and so did many others. | ||
| Iamim Side Hero Username: Iamim Post Number: 3292 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170 Rating: N/A |
Yeah.. Man is not supposed to know the forbidden secrets.. venturing that way is fraught with grave consequences... | ||
| Parthasaradhi Junior Artist Username: Parthasaradhi Post Number: 503 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 160.254.108.24 Rating: N/A |
It is not that easy to control the energy that will be generated as one progresses. You will see many mind tricks ani ekkado sadivina gurthu. Naham janami keyure naham janami kankane | Nupuretveva janami nityam padabhivandanat || | ||
| Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 2565 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 173.49.92.228 Rating: N/A |
Osho says" Sexual orgasmic stage, Thalli kadupu lo bidda ku vunna anubhuthi, konni drugs thisukovadam valana kaligina anandam, Self -relaization vaallu pondin anubhuthi anni okati gaane vuntaayi. Kaani Sexual orsasm konni minutes lo ayipoyi normal ki vashtamau. Thalli kadupu lo 9 nelalu vuntaamu. malli aa anubhuthi dorakadu.Drug thisukovadam valana..adi balavatham gaa aa anubhuthi ni isthundi. Kaabatti adi sariram lo sakthi ni harinchi vesthundi. yeppudu daani ide adhaarapadaali. kaani dhyaanam valana kalige "realization" anubhuthi saaswatham gaa vuntundi." My feeling on UG(I am not sure).."he knows what he is talking". He never says that he realized some thing. He say"what will you do with self-realization??" | ||
| Iamim Side Hero Username: Iamim Post Number: 3287 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170 Rating: N/A |
Yeah.. it is said that many of the babas are actually fallen ones.. so they behave eccentric... | ||
| Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1778 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.65 Rating: N/A |
saraina guidance lekapothe spiritual accidents jarugutaayi....anduke proper guidance kaavali | ||
| Iamim Side Hero Username: Iamim Post Number: 3284 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170 Rating: N/A |
Spirituality is one step away from Insanity.. | ||
| Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1776 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.65 Rating: N/A |
UG kooda ilane cheppe vaadu....kaani tanaku oka stage lo tanani kalisina valla past telisedhi ani enduku cheppukunnadu | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 25 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 71.126.25.130 Rating: N/A |
My current personal thoughts are that all these yogis/prophets and their so called spiritual experiences are just mental hallucinations and might have caused them euphoria/bliss/transcendence whatever.. but ultimately they don't generate any new knowledge of cosmos and largely irrelevant to the rest of the world.. for anyone to aspire/aim for such experiences is similar to hippies aspiring for LSD and assorted drugs.. The training of yogis, I think, only helps them to have a control experienced of these blissful states.. But to attribute this bliss to have some "higher" meaning or purpose is pointless
it's a meaningless combination of letters brother.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Chantodu Side Hero Username: Chantodu Post Number: 8135 Registered: 07-2007 Posted From: 12.34.246.78 Rating: N/A |
partially true ..does anyone read the belwo book Saved by the Light by Dannion Brinkley | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 24 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 71.126.25.130 Rating: N/A |
Btw, according to Swami Vivekananda, Mohammed was a man who stumbled upon a spiritual experience without the proper training.. From his book on raja yoga: "The Yogi says there is a great danger in stumbling upon this state. In a good many cases there is the danger of the brain being deranged, and, as a rule, you will find that all those men, however great they were, who had stumbled upon this superconscious state without understanding it, groped in the dark, and generally had, along with their knowledge, some quaint superstition. They opened themselves to hallucinations. Mohammed claimed that the Angel Gabriel came to him in a cave one day and took him on the heavenly horse, Harak, and he visited the heavens. But with all that, Mohammed spoke some wonderful truths. If you read the Koran, you find the most wonderful truths mixed with superstitions. How will you explain it? That man was inspired, no doubt, but that inspiration was, as it were, stumbled upon. He was not a trained Yogi, and did not know the reason of what he was doing. Think of the good Mohammed did to the world, and think of the great evil that has been done through his fanaticism! Think of the millions massacred through his teachings, mothers bereft of their children, children made orphans, whole countries destroyed, millions upon millions of people killed! " The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 23 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 71.126.25.130 Rating: N/A |
"Neuroscientist V Ramachandran a bunch of years ago was dealing with patients that had temporal lobe epilepsy. The temporal lobe is in control of 'meaning', it is the part of your brain that recognizes objects for their significance. He found that after an episode the patients had overwhelming feeling of spirituality. The idea is that they were seeing meaning and importance in everything down to individual blades of grass. One of his patients refused any support since he believed he was a prophet and that it was his link to god. (I since have read that many prophets historically have been epileptics such as Ezekiel and Prophet Mohamed)." The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Iamim Side Hero Username: Iamim Post Number: 3277 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170 Rating: N/A |
I have seen both kinds.. both behave the same way.. Seeing the invisible.. Talking with invisible.. | ||
| Jawmetri Junior Artist Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 231 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 59.93.76.203 Rating: N/A |
The Brilliant Vilayanur Ramachandran has also discussed this aspect quite a bit. | ||
| Mrhyderabad Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 5160 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.120 Rating: N/A |
 If god doesn't like the way I live, let him tell me, not you | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 6927 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150 Rating: N/A |
Links oopen cheyyaledu but on similar lines there is a disorder called Dissociative fugue - symptoms are very close to some symptoms of paranormal experiences.. UG ki dissociative fugue undi annaru Also they have another identified set of symptoms/behaviors named Kundalini syndrome triggered after extremely traumatic experiences- close to what we call smasana vairagyam aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Iamim Side Hero Username: Iamim Post Number: 3267 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 119.235.54.170 Rating: N/A |
Yeah.. everything is in brain.. could be that brain is deliberately created this way.. so that Mankind does not know too much... | ||
| Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1773 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.64 Rating: N/A |
mee id meaning emiti brother | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 21 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 71.126.25.130 Rating: N/A |
More info here: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=brain-surge ry-boosts-spiritual The authors pinpointed two parts of the brain that, when damaged, led to increases in spirituality: the left inferior parietal lobe and the right angular gyrus. These areas at the back of the brain are involved in how we perceive our bodies in spatial relation to the external world. The authors of the study in the journal Neuron1, say that their findings support the connection between mystic experiences and feeling detached from the body. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6W SS-4YC2GXT-5&_user=10&_coverDate=02%2F11%2F2010&_rdoc=1&_fmt =high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C0000502 21&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=e4fb1257622032866 d30264bf0a9b724 The predisposition of human beings toward spiritual feeling, thinking, and behaviors is measured by a supposedly stable personality trait called self-transcendence. Combining pre- and post-neurosurgery personality assessment with advanced brain-lesion mapping techniques, they found that selective damage to left and right inferior posterior parietal regions induced a specific increase of self-transcendence.} The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery |
