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british india ni vadili velle time ki mana desham lo 565 princely states unnayi. ante independent kingdowms who used to pay British taxes or shistu as they call it for offering protection (and provide them means to loot the country). It was loosely federated with independent kingdoms taking their own decisions in line with the british policies.

when british were kicked out(Transfer of power) Vallab Patel felt that there needs to be a united india and went about unifying the country as one union instead of kingdoms. All of the smalled kingdoms were already looted to an extent by british that they had no way of surviving on their own and they accepted straight away. The govt of India offered 'Privy purses' to the rulers of the kingdoms for acceding to Indian union. These arrangements were finally abolished in 1971 through the 26th amendment of the constitution.

Idle tammi most of the former kingdoms acceded in to the Indian union before August 15th 1947. Very few kingdoms did not - Junadgarh, Kashmir, Hyderabad, Goa,Diu, Daman (still under Portuguese occupation'). The rules of all of the 3 states refused to accede to India and chose to stay separate.
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Kamal:

identi .. Quit India movement .. 1942 kada !!! nenu marchipoyaana ? meeru tappu raasara?




sorry tammi, civil disobedience ani rayaboyi quit india ani rasina.thanks for correcting that.

idle tammi,
inka direct role enti naku arthamaitaledu. vere areas lo etla fight chesinaru koncham explain cheyi.
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Netra:

Indian army digi g lo thannindhi


royality chelinchidi annai in the same lines how we paid british even though they left
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Idle_yzag:

naku ardam kanidhi yenti ante, then why didnot nizam would hv been when british were down




think like this .. British was the central govt .. Nizam was a state govt .. Central govt padipoyindi .. but not state govt .. possible kada .. same scenario annamaata .. :D
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Idle_yzag:

then why didnot nizam would hv been when british were down




british 1947 lo pothe.. nizam musalodu nenu india tho kalavanu antene kadha Indian army digi g lo thannindhi
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Idle_yzag:

then why didnot nizam would hv been when british were down



then why didnot nizam would hv been step down when british were down, y India agreed to pay him royality
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naku ardam kanidhi yenti ante, then why didnot nizam would hv been when british were down
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Idle_yzag:

yes, you only fought with nizam ani anukuntunna, yendhukante british vallu vellipoyee time ki, nizam still holds T

I just want to know whats your direct role in freedom fight, dont say we are fighting that is not quit India movement




wrong anukuntaa maama.. british tho fight ante mundhu they need to stop nizam.. so aa angle lo choodu.. esp when you look into first independence war baaga raajukundhi hyd lo but killed because of many other reasons.. Madras presidency lo antha prabhaavam choopaledhu..
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Idle_yzag:

I just want to know whats your direct role in freedom fight, dont say we are fighting that is not quit India movement



PVNR sang Vande Mataram in OU and was jailed for singing that .. thats part of freedom movement ..

Nizam kings .. British ki Saamantha raajula type .. they used to hold the fort for the British in Deccan plateau .. Nizam was a crucial kingdom because .. it had diamond mines in its fold .. Nizam also allowed British army contonments in Secunderabad etc .. so fighting against British or Nizam does not really make a difference .. also Nizam used to pay "kappam" to British for his safety ..
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Okahyderabadi:

They participated directly in the Quit India movement in 1921



identi .. Quit India movement .. 1942 kada !!! nenu marchipoyaana ? meeru tappu raasara?

Okahyderabadi:

There have been some major revolts against both Nizam and British from Telangana. British rule in Hyderabad was proxy through Nizam. Komram Bheemudu was a Gond tribal leader from adilabad areas who revolted against Nizam, he was also called Komaram puli ( mana power star new movie Komram Puli is based on that name).




Rest of the post is as usual great !!!
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Okahyderabadi:

vere vallu kadu antava?


yes, you only fought with nizam ani anukuntunna, yendhukante british vallu vellipoyee time ki, nizam still holds T

I just want to know whats your direct role in freedom fight, dont say we are fighting that is not quit India movement
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
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Arjun1234:

British time loni Tax collectors and Zamindars e ippudi mana leaders... lollll




appati nizam ni oppose chesina vallalo kooda reddy's, velama doralu, dalitlulu, bapanollu unnaru. vattiga don't parrot what the other people say without knowing the history of the movement.
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taxes and all nizam internal matter, nizam vadu protection kosam tax kattevada british vallaki? clarity ledhu, may be it is direct fight against nizam feudalism not against british anukuntunna




quit india movement,
salt satyagraham,
forest satyagraham,
civil disobedience

ivanni british ki againste kada.

every body contributed in their own way. british vallaki tax kattadaniki pannulu vasulu chesindi nijame. nee agenda ento arthamavaitaledu. madras presidency direct ga east india company kinda unde kabatti aa area nunchi oppose chesinollu matrame 'freedom fighters' vere vallu kadu antava?
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British time loni Tax collectors and Zamindars e ippudi mana leaders... lollll
Winners never cheat... even in difficult times.
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Okahyderabadi:



tammi nizam govt was allowed to flourish under the british rule because they supplied army to the them and also paid tax collected from the farmers in the nizam area to offer protection against other kings, french etc. The fights against Nizam as representative of fights against British in that way.




taxes and all nizam internal matter, nizam vadu protection kosam tax kattevada british vallaki? clarity ledhu, may be it is direct fight against nizam feudalism not against british anukuntunna
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Idle_yzag:

british movement specific ga yem vunnai, nizam movements ni british vall medha yudam laga yela cheppagalaru?

In what way british infulences Nizam? Why nizam shud obey british rule? Isnt they are independent?




tammi nizam govt was allowed to flourish under the british rule because they supplied army to the them and also paid tax collected from the farmers in the nizam area to offer protection against other kings, french etc. The fights against Nizam as representative of fights against British in that way.

In my earlier post I think I made it clear. In all Major movements of Independence the people of Telangana participated against the Nizam and British. Be it the Quit india movement, forest satyagraha, civil disobedience, uppu satyagraham or any movement. There were many lawyers who resigned from their practise and participate in the movements.
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Idle_yzag:

if Hyd state is under British




sorry typo, not under british
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Netra:

AFAIK t-region lo british andatho nizam paripaalinchaaru.




ee relation medha koncham lite veyyandi? why nizam used to pay taxes to british if Hyd state is under British
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you are right. It is called 'The First war of Independence'. It failed because of lack of unity amongst the soldiers. After capturing Delhi they did not press forward and try to unite the rest of the country to fight against the British quick enough.The East India company then brought in forces from all over its empire to crush the movement.
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Idle_yzag:

In what way british infulences Nizam? Why nizam shud obey british rule? Isnt they are independent?




kaadhu maama..AFAIK t-region lo british andatho nizam paripaalinchaaru.. so direct and in-direct gaa hyd region lo fight jarigindhi.. kaakunte andhra endhukante Madras major tellodiki.. so mana fight direct gaa kanipinchindhi anthe theda..

OKa HYD baaga sebuthaadu anukuntaa
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There have been many other movements against Nizam directly and as an extension towards British.


british movement specific ga yem vunnai, nizam movements ni british vall medha yudam laga yela cheppagalaru?

In what way british infulences Nizam? Why nizam shud obey british rule? Isnt they are independent?
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Idle_yzag:

yenti 1857 lona? for what? asalu nen adigina question yenti freedom fight lo T role




actual lot of contro unnai ee vishayam lo.. actual gaa this is our first independence war.. kaakunte dhenni sipayala tirugubaatu gaa charitra lo maarchesaaru.. correct gaa dhenni follow aithe mana rajula ego chesttala valla loss ayyindhi chaala undhi.. almost lucknow regement and few others manollu occupy chesaaru.. tarvaatha debba thinnaru.. aa time lo India mottam jarigindhi ee war.. kaakunte mana charitra lo only jhansi, lucknow, delhi ni maathrame chooisttaru..

1857 is our first indian independence movement.. so appatlone hyd region lo against british fight chesaaru ani kavi bhaavam anukuntaa.. gandhi enter ayyina tarvaatha udyamam is different
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tammi,

There have been some major revolts against both Nizam and British from Telangana. British rule in Hyderabad was proxy through Nizam. Komram Bheemudu was a Gond tribal leader from adilabad areas who revolted against Nizam, he was also called Komaram puli ( mana power star new movie Komram Puli is based on that name).

The gonds of adilabad district under the leadership or Ramji Gond revolted against the british in 1860 (as a result of the 1857 sepoy revolt). They participated directly in the Quit India movement in 1921 and successive revolts and exposure led to the leftist organizations in telangana.

There have been many other movements against Nizam directly and as an extension towards British. The telangana armed struggle or rytu poratam itself which was a direct revolt against the Nizam was against the zamindari system which was patronized by the british.

Raavi Narayan reddy one of the founders of CPI was from Bhongir, Nalgonda and he participated directly in fights against the British and Nizam. Konda Venkata Ranga Reddy(RR dist is named after him) fought in the fights with Nizam and his army. Suravaram pratapa reddy.

There are thousands of people from telangana who fought with the army of Nizam and British and died.

There is a marked difference between the struggle in other parts of andhra from telangana as in the Madras Presidency which was under direct british rule the people were more educated and exposed to the world than the nizam regions. Hyderabad itself saw many such fights
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Netsaint:

1857 built memorial. sepoy mutiny lo bhaagam ga.


yenti 1857 lona? for what? asalu nen adigina question yenti freedom fight lo T role
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koti lo monument kooa undhi. 1857 built memorial. sepoy mutiny lo bhaagam ga.

then there was turreibazkhan , narayan rao who throwed bomb against nizam
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OT and IY..mandha krishna(mkm), Shiv sena can be key ....

MKM chala clarity tho unnadu first Cm dalitude or muslim ani set ayyadu...

shiv sena bombay lo media lo entha godava sette antha manchidhi ..future lo hyd lo kuda edhe avutadhi ani hyd ki special status techukovochu

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Idle_yzag:

nizam govt fought with british? asalu british vallu Hyd state loki enter ayyara




undu aa articles ethukuthaa.. def gaa baane fight jarigindhi hyd region lo.. but not that strong madras regiment lo laaga.. so andhra lo major appudu madras regiment kindha undedhi.. so baaga kanipinchedhi.. idhi just my opinion.. koncham details choodaali
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nizam govt fought with british? asalu british vallu Hyd state loki enter ayyara?
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Idle_yzag:

Nizam vallu british tho poradara? udyamalu yevina Hyd state lo jarigaya?




jarigaai maama.. koti college daggara appatlo chaala pedda major fight jarigindhi.. don't remember exact incidents.. nenu andhrabhoomi lo articles vastte chadivaanu..
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IY...Suravaram, infact late PM pvnr many followed gandhi and part of freedom movement


idhi koncham elobrate sey

nizam against movement yepppudu jarigindhi?
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IY...Suravaram, infact late PM pvnr many followed gandhi and part of freedom movement .., but nizam ki against ga matuku mottam AP 23 districts farmers/people fought...east west nundi around 50 people died, krishan guntur 100+ ...thought majority died were from telangana andra nundi kuda considerable amount of people unnaru ... round table conference jarigithe telangana wadulaki atma guravam anna chinna ninadam tappa undadu ...rayapati, undawalli sitting weshte ma doralu noru moosukuntaru
Rajashekaruni jeevitam rastraniki ankitam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZAebuKrdjs&feature=player_embedded#
Rajanna Amar Hai.
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vuppudu mee iddaru Patriots role poshisthunnraaa? T vallani kumma danaiki.




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good question..i have no idea

DHA and OKAHYDERABADI mamas..pls provide some insight....
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emo...saraina avagahana ledhu....
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Onlytruth:


India ki Independence tevadniki T ppl fight chesara? coz T is not under british kada, it is under nizam kada
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Q lo clarity ledhu
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Nizam vallu british tho poradara? udyamalu yevina Hyd state lo jarigaya?
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