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     Ntr_fan Megastar Username: Ntr_fan Post Number: 20353 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 74.176.14.243 Rating: N/A |
valliddaru replies ichukoka months avutundi...arguments ye ayina atleast replies ichukuntunnaru ani happy feel ayya... | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 710 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.44.243 Rating: N/A |
 oho adi conversing laaga anipinchinda meeku...Ilaa eppatninchi anipisthundi...eppudoo ilaane anipisthundaaa leka appudappudaa...j/k All generalizations have exceptions, including this one | ||
| Ntr_fan Megastar Username: Ntr_fan Post Number: 20349 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 74.176.14.243 Rating: N/A |
good to see both of u conversing  | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 384 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
do you know astrology yaar? Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 17289 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 72.255.45.79 Rating: |
this media instead of nangaing the aholes has become a mouth piece for mass murderers.....pathi okkadiki kamedy ipyindhi.....anni chesesi public interviews lo matiki peddha saints laga cutting.... | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 382 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
Appeal to all - Please do not take anything to heart .. DB is for info exchange, leg pulling, sometimes blood boil ani chepparu maa Gulug .. andaru adi follow aithe baguntundi anukuntunna ! Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5683 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Ninnati nunchi I have been marvelling at the irony ...Meeru e Nihil ki ee kashtalu cheppukuntunnaro, aa "wajood" lines original ga nenu rasindi tanake Ideological differences chusi emi anukunnaro telidu , but he is a little brother I found on the DB That one relationship to me is proof of miracles that can happen via the DB aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ruj Junior Artist Username: Ruj Post Number: 497 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 24.118.242.233 Rating: N/A |
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| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 362 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
Hindu Temple of Greater Chicago - Main deities are Sri Rama and Lord Shiva. Lemont (South-west of Chicago on I55 to St. Louis) lo undi www.htgc.org/ chaala manchi gudi .. Aurora lo Sri Venkateswara temple kooda chala baguntundi .. Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Ruj Junior Artist Username: Ruj Post Number: 496 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 24.118.242.233 Rating: N/A |
ee gudi mama idhi..ekkada? | ||
| Ruj Junior Artist Username: Ruj Post Number: 495 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 24.118.242.233 Rating: N/A |
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| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 335 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
Ala ela marchipotanandi? Done .. Ammavari temple ni expand chestunnaru .. Siva temple part antha construction avutondi and today being 1st saturday, they are having "Devi Chowk" at the Durga Mata temple. Chaala rush ga undi. Felt good to be back there. Nenu Lemont gudi ki velli 4-5 months avutondi ! Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5655 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
LOL - intaki na tarupuna ammavari ki thanks cheppi vachara , marchipoyara ? Sorry did not want to hijack your thread aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 333 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
Thank God, I do not read books ! Seriously, okkokkaru english lo ne matladutunnatu undi kaani .. emi ardam kavatledu ! 
annai .. Sure will answer this in another thread, today or not, I do not know ! Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5652 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Na post answer cheyyalede - what actions of Roark did you find unethical ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2260 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
srsly andi ...ayn rand dhi oka page chadivina chaalu adoka cheap mind ani teliyataniki...ikkada 90% amerika lo andaru dani gurinchi matladatharani....aha en novel anali ani anatame | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2259 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: |
deeniki mana janalu iche def his passion for art and that is nothing but kaivalya...naa fuse out....anduke tappukunna...eduru nuvvu novel chadivava antunnaru...madhyalo reservations...ento total confusion lo untaru janalu...ego okati addam...I am confused in my life ani oka guruvu mundhu oppuktaniki...malli...daniki smileys.....I am practical...Find what works for you and that is the right philosophy...vedhava pseudo secular gola | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 433 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.53.138.21 Rating: N/A |
LOL....Ayn Rand gurinchi recent ga oka article chadiva- about two biographies and in the context of her novels. Published in New york times and Slate . How Ayn Rand Became an American Icon: The perverse allure of a damaged woman. http://www.slate.com/id/2233966/ EXCERPTS FROM THE REVIEW: ***Her heroes are a cocktail of extreme self-love and extreme self-pity: They insist they need no one, yet they spend all their time fuming that the masses don't bow down before their manifest superiority.*** ***With her assertions that government is "evil" and selfishness is "the only virtue," she is the patron saint of the tea-partiers and the death panel doomsters.*** ***Her diaries from that time, while she worked as a receptionist and an extra, lay out the Nietzschean mentality that underpins all her later writings. The newspapers were filled for months with stories about serial killer called William Hickman, who kidnapped a 12-year-old girl called Marion Parker from her junior high school, raped her, and dismembered her body, which he sent mockingly to the police in pieces. Rand wrote great stretches of praise for him, saying he represented "the amazing picture of a man with no regard whatsoever for all that a society holds sacred, and with a consciousness all his own. A man who really stands alone, in action and in soul. … Other people do not exist for him, and he does not see why they should." She called him "a brilliant, unusual, exceptional boy," shimmering with "immense, explicit egotism." Rand had only one regret: "A strong man can eventually trample society under its feet. That boy [Hickman] was not strong enough."*** **** In The Fountainhead, published in 1943, a heroic architect called Howard Roark designs a housing project for the poor—not out of compassion but because he wants to build something mighty. When his plans are slightly altered, he blows up the housing project, saying the purity of his vision has been contaminated by evil government bureaucrats. He orders the jury to acquit him, saying: "The only good which men can do to one another and the only statement of their proper relationship is—Hands off!" For her longest novel, Atlas Shrugged (1957), Rand returned to a moment from her childhood. Just as her father once went on strike to protest against Bolshevism, she imagined the super-rich in America going on strike against progressive taxation—and said the United States would swiftly regress to an apocalyptic hellhole if the Donald Trumps and Ted Turners ceased their toil. The abandoned masses are described variously as "savages," "refuse," "inanimate objects," and "imitations of living beings," picking through rubbish. One of the strikers deliberately causes a train crash, and Rand makes it clear she thinks the murder victims deserved it, describing in horror how they all supported the higher taxes that made the attack necessary. *** ***In the end, Rand was destroyed by her own dogmas. She fell in love with a young follower called Nathaniel Branden and had a decades-long affair with him. He became the cult's No. 2, and she named him as her "intellectual heir"—until he admitted he had fallen in love with a 23-year-old woman. As Burns explains, Rand's philosophy "taught that sex was never physical; it was always inspired by a deeper recognition of shared values, a sense that the other embodied the highest human achievement." So to be sexually rejected by Branden meant he was rejecting her ideas, her philosophy, her entire person. She screamed: "You have rejected me? You have dared to reject me? Me, your highest value?"** LOL...Rand and her novels are the darling of american far right. Liberals and far left wing lo kooda fans vuntaru ani first time telusukunna. . | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5651 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Sare previous post answer cheyyandi - what about Roark's actions did you find unethical ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2256 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: |
nenu nikker vesukunnappudu chadivanu...ee sadaru ayn rand.....we the nation deggara nunchi....infact I even read Von mises from whom she copied most of her philosophical leanings....and I have actually read Mises magnum opus Human Action too...so if you think that u can sell that spiel....I am sorry....I am not of that mold who posts with out reading works of authors.....I am actually sorry for having had wasted some months of my life reading that C grade thinker | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5650 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Quote one act of Roark that goes against what is ethical/ moral aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5649 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Ok good luck with your simulation Naku oka doubt - asalu meeru Fountainhead chadivara ? Here's the link to the Wiki site - it has the plot and character studies Time unnappudu chadivandi I would be interested in knowing what is different in Roark's pursuit of pure art from the pure intellectual/spiritual pursuit you espouse ? And yes Kaivalya is the end state of that pursuit, is it not ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fountainhead aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2254 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
I dont have that kind of time on my hands wherein I try to convince some one on this demeaning argument comparing a bloody materialist with some one who is several notches above..(beyond her dream) that kind of materialist thrash....I have a simulation to finish tonight and test...before Japan opens tommorow....thanks and C u | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2253 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: |
The disc was abt whether raork had anything to do with kaivalya???????? What is this detour...  ...... n e ways......Rand relies on the fact of total materialism....She begets him (the character)with her viewpoint that everything that he deems as important for him is exempt from the clutches of moral scrutiny and paints a garb of some ad hoc passion abt him.... Kaivalya never prescribes to boundlessness with ref to the world or people around you...its transcends those boundaries...it is not abt what works for me is my philosophy which is utter bull....for the simple reason none of the human societies evolved like that.... simple differentiator: Rand's philosophy has other human's perceptions of her defined self righteous philosphy as her datum which u compared to a school of thought has God as its datum..... I am done....thanks | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5647 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
No I don't see it Rand's rant is against lack of personal choice and individual responsibility...she is talking about the "demeaning self-sacrifice " as in sacrifice of the meritorious for the collective good - sounds very close to your own stance on merit/reservations What about Roark makes you think he is not a self-realized man though ? He does not hurt anyone, he is totally self-reliant, he is emotionally and psychologically independent of anyone, even his love interest, he is focussed on his creativity and that alone , he cannot be bought by material promises ... so what is he lacking ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2252 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: |
because the originator of that character herself told the world that her ideal man is reflected in Roark and as far as I have read...RAND STARTED THE WHOLE SCHOOL OF OBJECTIVE REALISM.....an author fathers her characters and mothers their birth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "This is the speech of Howard Roark, the architect in my novel, defending the primacy of the human being against all the external powers that want to crush him/her in the name of demeaning self-sacrifice and corruptive altruism. It is a powerful plea against the terrible myth of selflessness that, as the word implies, denies the self and, by implication, personal choice and individual responsibility in favour of mass identity and collective servility." From the bloody horses mouth itself.....U still don't see it   | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5646 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
I am always chilled out, totally - not much stresses me out, least of all the DB - so don't worry I am trying to understand the disconnect here and set this whole thing to rest for good aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2249 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
and so goes the intent of mine...I am not here on a humanitarian mission to revive people and do some quality control of their thoughts....that is least significant things on any ones schedule here...as far as I know..... Previously, I never responded to retorts and these days I am doing so....nuthing different....If everyone just took info as indv perceptions, there will be no disc at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its the fundamental premise of all disc......and a board to serve that end!!!!!!! its only when some one starts raising concerns that our point of moot can't meet that we raise the cagey notions of my view, my world.....My only voice was against misinformation not her perceptions...she can safely breed her viewpoints... | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5645 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
You gave me some abstract qualities - there is no way you can say someone is or is not in that state based on those...only the person can tell you that. Ok let's look at it from that angle - why do you think Roark is tied to his body or senses ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Desparado Junior Artist Username: Desparado Post Number: 176 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 76.4.138.173 Rating: N/A |
ee roju ki star night kanna boring emi undadhu anukunna time lo e thread dorikindhi der garu, anand garu pls chillax There are two days in the week about which and upon which I never worry. Two carefree days, kept sacredly free from fear and apprehension. One of these days is Yesterday. ... And the other ... is Tomorrow Robert J Burdette | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2248 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
srsly..u are amazing me...... didnt I start out defining one??? (per a scripture).. The fact that ur four year old beleived in your answer...says a lot abt us humans!!! even I as a 4 yr old heeded to my father......its not the greatness of my father in any respect that I was convinced....coz realization is different from being convinced... when u are ready, u realize and when u are not u have to be convinced!!! | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5644 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Oh no I started with an end in mind Define , the traits/actions of a person in that state and then we can crosscheck if Roark has those qualities or not. If you do not have the definition of Kaivalya - how can you say he is not there ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5643 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Did I not answer any of your questions - the only question you asked was on pranayama which I answered...
My kids asked me and I was able to answer them pretty convincingly
Answer ichaka ee decision ki vaste baguntadi emo - how do you know whether I can take it or now ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Indiarocks Comedian Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 1334 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 24.117.236.160 Rating: N/A |
I don't want to dude...I seriously do not want to post this stuff..Have you ever seen me discussing something other than an issue, even if somebody provoked me? Pointing out somebody? But am seriously fed up with "Nee posts lo quality anthe...." kind of stuff.  .leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2247 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: |
what if you are not even ready for the answer??? have u ever try to think along those lines.......instead of thinking that some how you are equipped to know it??? That is whole point of education ain't it...when u start out at age 4 and ask the question convince me that after the rigors of education, I will be better ani adigithe??? Show me u are better than me to teach me ani adigithe????? That is the whole point of giving into ur guru when u are so naive..so that he can help u grow!!!!!!!!!!!!! unfortunately, I think you are not of that mold.....so better stop asking cuz u can't take the answer that may be u are not even at a stage where u can understand the answers...may be... My convo ends here....It is ur standard practice when U are proven wrong, you start off on a tangent and then ask questions with out answering posed questions....and eventually the thread looses steam...no body afterall invests time into a thread knowing its final outcome...U never start a convo to discuss...its always for an argument.... As some one said, so rightfully, no one wins an argument!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5642 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Are you implying Kaivalya is unattainable for humans ?
Idi personal anukunte do not answer - how far do you think that milestone is away for you - has he given you an indication of how far you have to go to reach that point ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Basky_indya Hero Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 17272 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 75.185.19.223 Rating: N/A |
yes i saw your other day post. could not reply. and Thanks for your courtesy. appude repu Maasikam Gigantic Techno fuctional Mega Blockbuster Magnum Opus BOMMA | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2246 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
Yo...h r u doing andi...monna hello cheppanu...hope u ahve recovered emotionally..I hope you will get over your personal loss in the course of time even though its tough | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2245 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
kiki...aham brahasmi anedhi santhana dharmam ani decide chesava annai???? | ||
| Basky_indya Hero Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 17271 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 75.185.19.223 Rating: N/A |
Gigantic Techno fuctional Mega Blockbuster Magnum Opus BOMMA | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5641 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Yes to me yes it is always about what is different, that is what progress is - how am I better from what I was yesterday ... If there is no difference in actions , what is the difference ? There has to be something that distinguishes enlightened people from non-enlightened ones. What is that difference ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Telugubabu Junior Artist Username: Telugubabu Post Number: 167 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.99.205.17 Rating: |
andaru oka 5 mins break theesukoni ee song vinandi. naa opinion kaadu. song vintaniki bagundi. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYGJhmEesYw dehameraa devalayam. jeevude sanathana dhaivam | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2244 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
its always abt what they do..what they acquire.material benefits....and that is reason why u have a hard time understanding it....Again...side tracking the whole point of contention and taking this thread into an all together different direction. One short answer: God per vedic perceptions is the one who has reached Kaivalya. Ur next question is how is God different from me.....I can definitely tell none of us here are Gods...and so I believe in my guru who is more intellectually refined to guide me to break free from this cycle of birth and death | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5638 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
And then what do they do ? How are thier actions different from someone not at that stat ? Basically I am asking for the distinguishing factors of life before and after reaching that milestone aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2243 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
yo chill........I have never asked her to think in a certain way.....I was replying to her retort based on the history of her posts......don't tell me that I can't post my retort correcting people...lol....Do I even look like I care????.......and I think you are contradicting urself by correcting me...who do you think you are...to correct my stances??/( I am just following your cue in your earlier post... referential paradoxes abound...eh) | ||
| Indiarocks Comedian Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 1333 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 24.117.236.160 Rating: N/A |
Yes, no body has a problem if somebody presents his view of things, or the information he has. DB posts ki quality monitoring chesthene problem. leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5635 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Cheyyanivvandi - if I am conveying something wrong - I think its good someone corrects it .. I do not have a problem with that aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Indiarocks Comedian Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 1332 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 24.117.236.160 Rating: N/A |
Let it be dude. Who are you to correct somebody else here. And even if you have to, you are only limited to presenting your point of view. leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 681 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
ledu annai...I am still in the sphere of Indian philosophy...inka out of India poledu... All generalizations have exceptions, including this one | ||
| Desparado Junior Artist Username: Desparado Post Number: 175 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 76.4.138.173 Rating: N/A |
There are two days in the week about which and upon which I never worry. Two carefree days, kept sacredly free from fear and apprehension. One of these days is Yesterday. ... And the other ... is Tomorrow Robert J Burdette | ||
| Abcdefghij Side Hero Username: Abcdefghij Post Number: 5941 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 76.226.113.51 Rating: N/A |
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| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5634 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
I have always believed the whole point of philosphy, religion and rituals is to help people go through this life to the best of their abilities... Everything to me is practical - there is a purpose to it - whether spiritual or material. My question was give me an example from mythology/philosophy/real life who has acheived kaivalya - what are those traits ... when do you say a person has acheived that state ? can you illustrate using a character ? I have found many practical benefits of pranayama - phsyiological and psychological benefits - it helps regulate the metabolism levels, increases hormones produced in the brain helping depression patients - kavali ante scientific studies ki link istanu aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2242 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
It was never an issue of point of views. It was a sheer case of MISINFORMATION. | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2241 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
referential paradox eh!!!! reading Hofstadter by any chance??? He is first grade logic theorist | ||
| Indiarocks Comedian Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 1331 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 24.117.236.160 Rating: |
Of course I read your entire post. Why do you resort to personal comments on somebody if they have a point of view different from your's? Everybody, like you, think that their point of view is correct. What is your problem if they post what they believe? leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2240 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
to further aid you, pathanjali is his sutra 28 recites : Since kaivalya is the aim of all yogic pronouncements....renouncing the aforesaid bandhanas, namely, Karmic, Vasana,Klesha and samskara are brought over by different routes. Hence was born the practice of Hatha yoga (on the banks of saraswathi, expounded by brahma to the rishis) to rein onto vasana(old emotive inclinations) and Kleshas. After mastering Hatha, vipasana was the next target. Vipasana which purely in sanskrit means inner meditation.... pathanjali expounds further that after these phases of self control is the most difficult phase of disassociation of sense and body, the state of Kaivalya!!!!! Only the gods and great saints like Adi sankara reached that apex. deenni teskuni velli, oka 3rd novelist rasina, materialistic philosophy to link undhi ani comment chesina meeku oka satha koti dandalu | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 680 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: |
Der brother...thanks for your kind words...I really appreciate it...oka vishayam...please dont take it other wise...please don't take this DB personally and if you don't like any DBer's posts, just put forward your points to counter them...if you think they are in to circular logic and taking literal meanings out of your posts (which happens quite frequently), just let it go...no body wins an argument in its true sense...ever...this DB is to chill out...no one is superior to any one here or anywhere...Pandithyam kanna Jnanam goppadi... All generalizations have exceptions, including this one | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2239 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
What sort of question is this?????? kaivalya by definition is something that has nothing to do with practicality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am shocked that you posed this question...... any how, I always see you giving some tips about pranayama....assuming that you found some (LOL) "PRACTICAL" application of pranayama to your life, can you kindly out of ur reserve of knowledge, suggest to me why was pranayama used or to that matter why hatha yoga was practised?????????????????? | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2237 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
I was referring to her previous post...try reading the post in complete entirety before resorting to question | ||
| Indiarocks Comedian Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 1330 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 24.117.236.160 Rating: N/A |
From where did Hindu philosophy come into this thread? leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2236 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
some forms of knowledge are the reason why some people believe that there is purpose to our lives after all.. there is this poetic pristinity in their pursuit which transcends the petty human capabilities of willful harm amongst other things. | ||
| Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 10434 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.71 Rating: |
Again there is no Universal truth..Truth is what one perceives..moreover she never said NO to discuss her viewpoint. Simple ga avida viewpoint..express chesina opinion ni charlatanism anatam anavasaram emo..think about it.. 10k post : why do u want to do pmp? | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5632 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
I said we will discuss in a separate thread ...but if you insist we can continue here I will only ask the questions ..meeru explain chyyandi... SO tell me how kaivalya translates into practical daily life ? Name some people who according to you acheived kaivalya and what are their characteristic traits or actions? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2235 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
That is the problem with people here. You seriously think that what people perceive me out here virtually makes even an ounce of difference to my contemplative abilities or lack thereof?????? I revere knowledge..certain forms of it and can't stand this post modern BS of trying to tie rational set ups to as grand and profound as Indian meta physics. I have no reason for breeding any "CHIP ON THE SHOULDER" against you ( not sure what it means). I don't owe you anything neither do you. I am extremely finicky of intellectual integrity and I raise my voice against it every time. There are hundreds who abuse me here personally here and frankly I dont even hate them. | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2234 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
Again...please stop contorting my view point. There is no MY view points here. Her attempt to tie roark to something that actually despises is called charlatanism. White paper black dot.....I don't understand ur argument. Did u ever see me confronting her on some petty issues like politics etc....when u bring people like saints into picture make sure , u represent the truth...that is all I mean. | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2233 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: |
unfortunately u can't get away with a stock answer like I understand roark differently. To your chagrin, Rand herself standardized her character and their foils based on her perceived axioms of her alleged philosophy: existence, identity, and consciousness. Rand then established what people called a school of relativist realism. So trying to escape with your stock answer implies 2 things. 1.) You read the novel with no understanding of its ontology. 2.) That you tried to link a personal interpretation of roark's relevance( which I highly doubt) to that of a trait which is considered to be a defacto apex of the Hindu philosophy. inter alia, this amounts to misinformation in the standard sense. I have no issues with some one taking a mantle of so called guiding people through DB ( which is a joke) but when you do so, steer clear of things of which you posses sketchy knowledge, at least in Hindu philosophy. We are not talking abt lowly movies, politics etc but of a body of knowledge that some generations of curious minds tried to fathom with a sense of awe and reverence. A philosophy which universally changed how metaphysics is treated from centers like Cambridge to MIT, scientists today think twice before resorting to question vedic knowledge. Day after day evidence after evidence pointing to the fact that we might after all be at the receding phases of a part of human history and that our ancestors might indeed have been a more advanced civilization than us. | ||
| Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 10431 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.71 Rating: |
Der Oka paper meeda Black dot unte..aa dot ni matrame choose vallu kontamandi untaru..kontamandi migata white paper ni choostaru..its all what u perceive.. Nenu philosophy ki pedda fan ni kakapoina, every body has their own way of understanding stuff they come acrooss and they perceive and they are entitled to have that freedom. Nee view point kante different ga ardham chesukunte vallu waste..vallaki understanding capacity ledu anatam is heinous. 10k post : why do u want to do pmp? | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5627 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: |
Inko thread vesukoni discuss cheste better- if you are so inclined This is a different topic...and I understand Roark differently than you do
I put smileys because I am smiling as I type... I have long lost the ability to feel angry at what people say to or about me - my self esteem is rock solid and does not depend on anyone other than me so if it makes you happy to trash what I say, feel free... The only reason I asked was to see if we could resolve your problem Your abhorrence/hatred only impacts your mind , not mine, not anyone else's other than providing some cheap entertainment for DBers..aa chinna vishayam ardham avvataledu meeku If you think my knowledge is not sufficient to explain, meeru cheppandi DBers ki ardham ayyettu spirituality gurinchi... Nenu practical ga the spirituality I live cheptanu and connect it to the scriptures I have read, your knowledge originates in theory - they are two different perspectives - if we put them out everyone can all learn Its not a contest anout who knows or does not know - everyone knows something I don't I share what I know and I am not averse to correcting if I am wrong aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Chiru_fan Side Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 8923 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.248.48.112 Rating: N/A |
/vaariki ketayinchina setlalo variney koorchonivvandi.... /  CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 17268 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 72.255.15.1 Rating: N/A |
yadha yadha hin dharmasya....glanir bhavathi bharatha.... abhuddhanam adharmasya....thadhanatmanam srjamya aham meaning "gauravapradhamina.....andhariki manchi chesthunna sthreelani gauravinchatam mana sampradhayam.....vaariki ketayinchina setlalo variney koorchonivvandi.... adhi kooda theliyani mee samskaram lo maa saliva"  | ||
| Wrathchild Hero Username: Wrathchild Post Number: 10181 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 24.1.171.91 Rating: N/A |
Shaw/Kamal What makes you an ardent fan of BJP? Is it just hindutva or anything else? Nenu prati tube ki reply ivvanu..kiki | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2231 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
There is one indv called Ishan in this DB who speaks factually as is written in whatever sources he has learnt from and I bow to his integrity as a person. That is the first sign of whether a man/woman can even qualify for an intellectual pursuit leave apart the holy pursuit of vedic knowledge. That indv is the only person I ask Q's coz I know he wont lie his way...and that is the sort of integrity that can make intellectuals | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2230 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: N/A |
The worst thing that I abhorr in this world is hogwashes who manipulate pure and unadulterated knowledge by implicating and qualifying writings of great saints through their semi gross senses. To accede that one doesn't know and to go to any extent to know what truth exactly is, with out trying burden ones ego by thrusting it to qualify that truth, is the first step to acquiring true knowledge. That is exactly the reason why mathematics is considered the king of rational pursuits and there is no scope for BS using some fancy phrases...pure unadulterated proofs which have to qualify themselves through the raging tide of axiomatic integrity | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2229 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: |
With out a smiley and other appeasing trash, trying to tie Objectivist representative like Roark to a state of Kaivalya speaks volumes abt the sort of incomplete(for lack of a better word) knowledge that you posess and try to pass off here as something refined. Kaivalyam as derived from its root (-kevala and later kevalam) is a representative of pure bliss and is reached after loss of dehathma budhi and just FYI, loss of dehathma budhi implies complete disassociation of the conscious from that of the notion of a body. Any one who even knows an ounce of objectivism of that bloody rand knows that her protoganists stand for centralised reality borne out of a conscious belief that truth is borne out of the unflinching belief in SENSORY perception!!!!!! A complete anti-thesis to that of the state of kaivalya which pathanjali describes as the apex of all yoga suthras. Purusa suktham clearly defines kaivalyam as the following: nasthi nasthi yadho bahyam (samskara, vasana, karma and kleshas in that respective order) where as objectivism is rooted in the relation to self and its embodiment called body. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5625 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
 I am sorry but I cannot help LOL - monne kada prophet meeda manaki anta discussion ayyindi BTW, vallu already offer chesing anukunta Mohammad is Kalki ani I appreciate RSS's gesture but VHP might have a cow aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 332 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
RSS says Vande Mataram could be translated into Urdu
Bhasha kadu Bhavam pradhaanam. RSS rocks. Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5624 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Tathastu devatalu untaru antaru Shubh bolo shubh suno aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ustad Side Hero Username: Ustad Post Number: 2257 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 76.166.111.11 Rating: |
BJP is communal party...RSS is evil...Modi howle gadu | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 329 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story/69543/'The+new+BJP+leader+will+be+from+outside+Delhi'.html?page=0 Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 328 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 326 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 325 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 324 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 323 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
Poddunna nunchi .. wanted to find an english version of the interview, because I know, several people here do not like Hindi. In anycase, I guess, the videos I posted are edited and are only at best excerpts. Here is a more detailed interview published in India Today, a sister concern of Aaj Tak.
Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 677 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.44.243 Rating: |
 All generalizations have exceptions, including this one | ||
| Indiarocks Comedian Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 1329 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 24.117.236.160 Rating: N/A |
nee post lo em vishayam undi boss...everybody else has been discussing about the interview till you posted yours. Can't you counter somebody on the issue? leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5612 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
I am curious - what is your problem with me - can you articulate that? Why do you have such a huge chip on your shoulder about me that you have to resort to this kind of backbiting ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5611 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Oops, I am so sorry for violating your domain... Did not know talking and learning about kaivalyam is reserved for the likes of you aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2228 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: |
ardham ayyindha bro....exact ilane untayi answers....gamanichalsina vishyalu...reply post emi undadhu vishyam......Cop out...delay not historical delay....asaly historical delay ante ento cheppi punyam kattuko brother...asalu aa padhaniki meaning enti...urgent ga nenu Rand pusthakalu chadivi kaivalyam gurinchi aavida em andho nerchukuni...daniki daani meedha idea unna lekapoyina...alago okala....link petti....nalugu stars vesthe...ithna oppar bhi na uthavo ki girthe hi wajoob toot jayen ani analani undhi.....help me god | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5609 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Before taking off on tangent , go back and see what he said on the interview - he is talking about the delay of the date to 11th - not the historical delay ... Anyway - not in a mood to argue over it.... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 322 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
LOL .. 90+ years ni delay cheyyadam, Hindu sentiments ni ignore cheyyadam anakapothe .. I do not what you call delaying, ignoring and oppressing Hindu sentiments !!! Does it take close to a Century to pronounce a judgement and respect what the janta is aspiring for??? Poni .. ee roju demolition complete ayyi 17 years avutunnayi .. ippatiki aina vachinda judgement? ennallu wait cheyyali .. aa case first court lo veseppatiki ... maa great grandfather zamana .. already naaku 25 years vachayi .. nenu poye loga aina verdict vastunda? Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5608 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Pretty good interview ...esp part 1. You need to especially pay attention to around 3.5 to 4.25 mins of part 1...something I have been bugging you about.. shanka door karne ka prayas nahin kar sakte to aur badhao nahin  Babri masjid issue matram dissappoint chesaru - cop out and washing hands of responsibility - govt. delay chesindi kabatti prajalu chesaru ani as if RSS had no hand... UCC and 370 - good, firm response. Rest of the interview - safe track and non-committal anipinchindi... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 314 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Paicn2YsV8A - Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9IPx4U-wus - Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxUnEIw3mYo - Part 3 * His views on whether or not Vande Mataram has to be sung. * His views on Article 370, Uniform Civil Code * Relationship with BJP, ideology and crisis of leadership in BJP. * His views on Hindu-Muslim unity for India * Gujarat riots, Narendra Modi and Ram Mandir. Great interview. Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. |
