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Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4836 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 11:55 am: |
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JP ki MLA gaa undala, IAS gaa undala, ela unte he can do more service to the country, annadi meekante, naakante baaga telusu anukuntunna. Coz he is the one who worked at the ground level for more than a decade. So it is up to us only to see if he is fulfilling his promises as an MLA,which he is, 200%. Manadi em poindi, keyboard undi kada ani JP pillalaki em perlu pettalo kooda cheptamu. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4835 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 10:33 am: |
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Dts:Coming to JP, when NTR implemented liquor ban, it was JP who advice against that policy and later during CBN regime JP could successfully eliminate that policy, if he was that successful as an IAS office what made him to downgrade himself to an MLA? praja seva tokkalo seva ani kaakammma kaburlu vaaddu, ee vyavatha lo peon nunDi zilla collector varaku andharu chesedi praja seve.
Annai meeku minimum information lekunda enduku judgements pass chestaru. JP nenu praja seva cheyadaniki vachanu ani eppudu cheppaledu. Rajakeeyallo maarpu kosam ani cheppadu, and he is doing what he can. FYI, JP IAS resign chesi ventane raledu politics loki. He fought as an NGO for more than a decade. Computer mundu koorchuni judgements pass cheyadam easy ne. Meeku prastutam unna politics antha bagunte, be happy, but do not ridicule those who work honestly for the country. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Dts
Junior Artist Username: Dts
Post Number: 764 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 10:03 am: |
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Indiarocks: MLA, corporator, Mayor, MP, Minister everyone of them, have proper functions clearly defined, and which make sense. The question is are they doing their functions or not. What we have is the MLA seen as the face of everything, and an adhoc system of governance. Ika MLA ppl ni represent cheyali, ante, represent cheyadam annadaniki several meanings, interpretations untayi.
Corporator, mayor gurinchi manakendukugaani, MLA/MP gurinchi maaTlaaDukundaam. representative anTe chaala meanings unnaayaa? vaaTilo prathinidhi ane meaning lEdaa? MLA/MP lanu praja-prathinidhi anaraa? anTe veelu prajala consensus baTTi panicheyyaaraa? MLA is responsible for making a law by voting and an IAS officer is responsible for drafting and implementing the laws. Coming to JP, when NTR implemented liquor ban, it was JP who advice against that policy and later during CBN regime JP could successfully eliminate that policy, if he was that successful as an IAS office what made him to downgrade himself to an MLA? praja seva tokkalo seva ani kaakammma kaburlu vaaddu, ee vyavatha lo peon nunDi zilla collector varaku andharu chesedi praja seve. as I mentioned earlier, India lo laws/policies ki koduva leDu only that they are not implemented. US lo parents pillani koDite 5 mins lo cops vastaaru, adhE India lo aitha asalu manaku pillani koTTakooDadu andhi chaTTa prakaaram neRam ani kooDa teliyadu, FYI we have the same law against child abuse. adhi paristhiti. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 4795 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 05:20 pm: |
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Dts:MLA rep. kaadu analedu, on the contrary I said MLA has to be a rep. but my questions is are we electing truly our reps?
MLA, corporator, Mayor, MP, Minister everyone of them, have proper functions clearly defined, and which make sense. The question is are they doing their functions or not. What we have is the MLA seen as the face of everything, and an adhoc system of governance. Ika MLA ppl ni represent cheyali, ante, represent cheyadam annadaniki several meanings, interpretations untayi. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Dts
Junior Artist Username: Dts
Post Number: 763 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 01:25 pm: |
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Indiarocks:MLA rep kaadu antara, ippudu, ok anukondi. MLA does something that is defined in this thread. And he is elected by people. This is how things are in federal democracies through out the world.
MLA rep. kaadu analedu, on the contrary I said MLA has to be a rep. but my questions is are we electing truly our reps?
Indiarocks:Mari issue enti asalu?
aalochincanDi. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 4791 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 07:00 pm: |
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Sanman:why is there so much discussion on this ? constitution cannot require interpretation. aren't the legislative member's duties well defined ?
They are very well defined. The only issue is that ppl are ignorant about it. period. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 4790 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 06:59 pm: |
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Dts:In the constitution of India Party is not defined. So I am not talking about parties here. Yes, the point is people need to choose their reps., that's the whole point. Question is are they electing their reps? the answer is NO. They are not. It's a big debate.
MLA rep kaadu antara, ippudu, ok anukondi. MLA does something that is defined in this thread. And he is elected by people. This is how things are in federal democracies through out the world. Dts:You can do that. We have enough knowledge. But that's not the issue here.
Mari issue enti asalu?
Dts:People elect reps. to fight people's problems not system's problems. You need to think what problems people are suffering with.
Who make up the system? People's problems are a manifest of the system's problems. MLA ni elect chesukunedi to put in a proper system through laws. Ika roads, garbage etc veeti gurinchi elect chesukunedi Mayor, corporator etc. Dts:Don't be under the impression that the candidate you elect is a saint and candidate others elect is a criminal. People know who they are electing and they have that right.
Yes people have the right to vote, but it is also my right to point out that one party candidate is better than the other. Election commission eliminates candidates only after they are convicted. FYI pappu yadav got elected for Loksabha for 4 terms (that is 20yrs) with 15 criminal cases on him. If you think you are smart by voting for a candidate with criminal history, so be it. Kaani criminal history unnavallaki, money, liquor kosam votes veyakandi ani cheppoddu anadaniki meeru evaru? Annai you are hell bent on criticizing everything that somebody does. Given the fact that IAS, and MLA play very different roles in governance, you say that an IAS can do the same thing as an MLA. You have a problem with somebody fighting for a positive change in AP politics. You even have a problem if somebody promotes the idea of not electing ppl with criminal backgrounds. WTF? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Sanman
Junior Artist Username: Sanman
Post Number: 33 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 06:53 pm: |
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why is there so much discussion on this ? constitution cannot require interpretation. aren't the legislative member's duties well defined ? |
   
Dts
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Post Number: 762 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 06:31 pm: |
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Indiarocks:annai it is upto the parties to give tickets to people who can do a sane, and honest job as an MLA. It is upto the people to elect only sane, honest, ppl without criminal backgrounds. Inka system lo maralsindi enti?
In the constitution of India Party is not defined. So I am not talking about parties here. Yes, the point is people need to choose their reps., that's the whole point. Question is are they electing their reps? the answer is NO. They are not. It's a big debate.
Indiarocks: Meeru cheppinatlu experts in different fields undali ante, daniki MLCs unnaru kada?
Again you went wrong. I did not say only experts need to be elected. Please quote me. I said one needs to elect their rep. It does not mean one needs to elect experts.
Indiarocks: Poni mee definition of demographics, statistics tho ela select cheyali reps ni, ante nominate cheyala, without electing them?
You can do that. We have enough knowledge. But that's not the issue here.
Indiarocks:Meeku prastutam unna political system lo problems fight chesevallu nacharu, criminals ki, corrupted ppl ki vote veyakandi nayana, ani for the first time in history, honest politics main agenda tho, oka platform for common ppl form cheste nachadu. Aakasam lo swargam nirminchadam alantivi kakunda, practical gaa em cheyalo cheppandi.
People elect reps. to fight people's problems not system's problems. You need to think what problems people are suffering with. No criminal is allowed to take part in elections. The election commission eliminates those candidates. Don't be under the impression that the candidate you elect is a saint and candidate others elect is a criminal. People know who they are electing and they have that right. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4789 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 05:23 pm: |
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Dts:demographics anTe mallee doctor actor anTav enTi guru. just try to understand representative at least try to google for it. or go to any of the state capitols or any assembly and ask the people. nenu prajalu ki reps. annaanu kaani doctors ki annaanaa? Demographics anTe keVala doctors e naa? Demographics lo diversified poeple nu consider cheyyarani evaru cheppaaru? Diversified people unTaaru kaabaTTe statics upayoginchi rep. nu select chestaaru, BTW election is one of such statistical process of selecting a rep. out of this diversified population, but that is pretty old process, Now Statistics has developed a lot we have new technics. That's not our problem. What I am saying is that the elected MLAs do not actually represent the true demographics of a constituencies. There is lot of discrepancy. That's what is needed to be changed
annai it is upto the parties to give tickets to people who can do a sane, and honest job as an MLA. It is upto the people to elect only sane, honest, ppl without criminal backgrounds. Inka system lo maralsindi enti? Meeru cheppinatlu experts in different fields undali ante, daniki MLCs unnaru kada? Poni mee definition of demographics, statistics tho ela select cheyali reps ni, ante nominate cheyala, without electing them? Meeku prastutam unna political system lo problems fight chesevallu nacharu, criminals ki, corrupted ppl ki vote veyakandi nayana, ani for the first time in history, honest politics main agenda tho, oka platform for common ppl form cheste nachadu. Aakasam lo swargam nirminchadam alantivi kakunda, practical gaa em cheyalo cheppandi. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Dts
Junior Artist Username: Dts
Post Number: 761 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 03:24 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Annai, sorry to say this, but you need a democracy 101 class. Demographics diverse gaa untayi, ye area teesukunna. So meeru cheepina system does not make sense. Doctor ni represent cheyali ante doctor ye undali ante kudaradu, endukante doctors anadru oka area lo concentrate ayyi undaru. Oka area teesukunte, anni rakala prajalu untaru. Manaki unna federal system of democracy worked very well. The problem is not with the democratic system, but the problem is that it is not being followed properly.
demographics anTe mallee doctor actor anTav enTi guru. just try to understand representative at least try to google for it. or go to any of the state capitols or any assembly and ask the people. nenu prajalu ki reps. annaanu kaani doctors ki annaanaa? Demographics anTe keVala doctors e naa? Demographics lo diversified poeple nu consider cheyyarani evaru cheppaaru? Diversified people unTaaru kaabaTTe statics upayoginchi rep. nu select chestaaru, BTW election is one of such statistical process of selecting a rep. out of this diversified population, but that is pretty old process, Now Statistics has developed a lot we have new technics. That's not our problem. What I am saying is that the elected MLAs do not actually represent the true demographics of a constituencies. There is lot of discrepancy. That's what is needed to be changed. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 4788 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 02:05 pm: |
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Getafix:Naku telsi, MLA allocate cheyisthadu budget for his/her constituency. Inka Law making ante mana kada bill intro cheyatam anedi individual gaa jaragadu gaa.. ruling party proposes and opposition party opposes.. Bill introduce cheyatam anedi kuda athishayokthi mana deggira.. CM mandate chesesthadu bill ni ..opposition kramashikshanaga oppose chesthadi anthe jarigedi.
prathi constituency ki separate gaa funds allocate cheyincharu. MLA ki ye mathram say undadu by rule. I know this first hand. Prastutam jarigedi enti ante, concerned minister daggara influence/power unna MLA aithe thana area ki funds ippinchukuntadu. Lenivadu chodyam choostadu. Anduke avasaram lekapoina pulivendula ki 6 lane road, ilantivi choostunnamu. Bill intro cheyadam individual gaa jaragadu, party gaa kooda sarigga jaragadu. OKa paddathi padu leni system manadi. Anduke as a party andaru separate T ki support ani chepparu, all party meeting lo official gaa, malli resign chesaru. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Getafix
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Post Number: 6821 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 01:55 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Roads, sanitation, garbage etc, etc ki funds corporations, muncipalities ki vastayi, directly
atla ela osthayi directly? ekkadinunchi osthayi? Naku telsi, MLA allocate cheyisthadu budget for his/her constituency. Inka Law making ante mana kada bill intro cheyatam anedi individual gaa jaragadu gaa.. ruling party proposes and opposition party opposes.. Bill introduce cheyatam anedi kuda athishayokthi mana deggira.. CM mandate chesesthadu bill ni ..opposition kramashikshanaga oppose chesthadi anthe jarigedi. |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4787 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 01:35 pm: |
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Dts:elokam lo aina that should be the case. democracy has to do with demographics. prajalaki reps. ki sambadham leka poThe ika democracy enduku. The core problem lies in here. That's where one needs to think.
Annai, sorry to say this, but you need a democracy 101 class. Demographics diverse gaa untayi, ye area teesukunna. So meeru cheepina system does not make sense. Doctor ni represent cheyali ante doctor ye undali ante kudaradu, endukante doctors anadru oka area lo concentrate ayyi undaru. Oka area teesukunte, anni rakala prajalu untaru. Manaki unna federal system of democracy worked very well. The problem is not with the democratic system, but the problem is that it is not being followed properly. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 4786 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 01:30 pm: |
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Decentralization ekkada jarigindi mahaprabho? Aslu daniki corruption ki relation enti? Actually it can reduce corruption. Power decentralization annadi nenu kothaga cheppateldu. This is how it was supposed to work. That is what the constitution tells us. Asalu manaku currently unna system, ante prathi daniki MLA involve avvatam annadi oka paddhati padu leni system. Prapancham lo ekkada ila ledu. India lo thappa. Roads, sanitation, garbage etc, etc ki funds corporations, muncipalities ki vastayi, directly. We already elect corporators, mayors to look after the functionality of these orgs. Kaani ippudu prathi daniki MLA ni responsible chestunnaru, even the so called educated ppl. Corporator, mayor em chestaro teliyadu, when they are the ones actually responsible. Ika law making lo active gaa undavalasina MLAs, assembly lo em chestunnaru, asalu oka law pass chese mundu entha discuss chestunnaru evadu pattinchukodu. MLAlu private panchayitilu chesinatlu roads, garbage etc lo thama influence use chesi panulu jaripistunnaru. If you go through the local news in your city, it is your Mayor who talks about roads, schools etc, but not the Senate, or House member. Enti ee gandaragolam? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Dts
Junior Artist Username: Dts
Post Number: 760 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 01:29 pm: |
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Indiarocks:mee lokam lo ala pettukondi annai, unfortunately India lo, or in any democracy, MLA is the person whom ppl vote for. Chese job batti kadu.
elokam lo aina that should be the case. democracy has to do with demographics. prajalaki reps. ki sambadham leka poThe ika democracy enduku. The core problem lies in here. That's where one needs to think. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Getafix
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Post Number: 6820 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 01:13 pm: |
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Indiarocks:This is just opposite of what you are talking. With decentralization Govt. becomes more accessible
that is the irony brother.. decentralization chesthe accesibility peragali kani ala kaatledu. Decentralization valla chala varaku panulu or information is getting lost due to beurocracy and corruption. |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4782 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 12:09 pm: |
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Getafix:chinnappudu Civics lo chadivina matuku ayithe ide MLA yyokka primary respsonsibility... MLA represents his constiuents in Assembly and an MP represents constituents in Parliament.
Idi aithe kaadu manam chadivindi. You can double check. It is not how it is supposed to work. Getafix:na personal feeling endhante ee decentralization valla common man ki govt andubaatulo lekunda pothundi ani..
This is just opposite of what you are talking. With decentralization Govt. becomes more accessible. Now ppl go to one MLA for everything in the constituency. They need to go to Hyd for everything. With decentralization they only have to go to their "local Govt" in their own village, town, or district. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Getafix
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Post Number: 6817 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 09:58 am: |
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Indiarocks:LSP has been promoting more power de-centralization, more powers, and funds to local bodies since its inception.
decentralization is good but sadly in india decentralization also means more corruption and more red tape.. na personal feeling endhante ee decentralization valla common man ki govt andubaatulo lekunda pothundi ani.. |
   
Getafix
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Post Number: 6816 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 09:57 am: |
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Zulu:An MLA should work for the betterment of his constituency, appude reelect avuthadu.Ma MLA Assembly lo baaga matladadu ani prapancham lo Yeh vedhava vote veyyadu
chinnappudu Civics lo chadivina matuku ayithe ide MLA yyokka primary respsonsibility... MLA represents his constiuents in Assembly and an MP represents constituents in Parliament. |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4781 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 01:56 am: |
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Zulu:weird kadu nayana..If MLA has nothing local about being an MLA, then theoratically how is he representing his constituents? There is reason why people elect their MLA, An MLA is in everyway representative of his constituents. An MLA should work for the betterment of his constituency, appude reelect avuthadu.Ma MLA Assembly lo baaga matladadu ani prapancham lo Yeh vedhava vote veyyadu.
Annai India lo thappa prapancham lo chala democracies lo alage vote vestaru. Manaki MLA is for everything, adi mana ignorance. You can research how it works in the US too. Constituencies, local Govts ni represent chesedi, corporators, mayors etc. Kaani mana ignorance tho aa elections ki min importance istamu, and we made those bodies good for nothing. LSP has been promoting more power de-centralization, more powers, and funds to local bodies since its inception. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 30 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:51 pm: |
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Zulu: An MLA should work for the betterment of his constituency, appude reelect avuthadu.Ma MLA Assembly lo baaga matladadu ani prapancham lo Yeh vedhava vote veyyadu.
may be anduke vedhavalu autunnaremo ?
Zulu:theoratically how is he representing his constituents?
i dont think they are supposed to represent their constituents. they make laws for the state not their constituency. |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 3943 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:37 pm: |
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Indiarocks:ante okkokadu 292 candidates gurinchi telsukuni vote veyala? okka candidate ki dikku ledu akkada? Enti ee roju anni ilanti wierd ideas tho vastunnaru?
weird kadu nayana..If MLA has nothing local about being an MLA, then theoratically how is he representing his constituents? There is reason why people elect their MLA, An MLA is in everyway representative of his constituents. An MLA should work for the betterment of his constituency, appude reelect avuthadu.Ma MLA Assembly lo baaga matladadu ani prapancham lo Yeh vedhava vote veyyadu. Mr KCR tear down this wall! |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4780 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:26 pm: |
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Zulu:So, Isnt our electorate system messed up? then why should AP be divided into 292 constituences, and each gets to choose one for their constituency? We cant we all choose the 292 MLAs together?
ante okkokadu 292 candidates gurinchi telsukuni vote veyala? okka candidate ki dikku ledu akkada? Enti ee roju anni ilanti wierd ideas tho vastunnaru? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 3941 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:24 pm: |
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So, Isnt our electorate system messed up? then why should AP be divided into 292 constituences, and each gets to choose one for their constituency? We cant we all choose the 292 MLAs together? Mr KCR tear down this wall! |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4779 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:20 pm: |
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Zulu:So, Is there anything "Local" about an MLA?
Asalu andari loki locallest, local leaders evaru ante, corporators, Mayors, muncipal council members. Funds for roads, sanitation etc anni direct gaa ee orgs ki vastayi, period. And still many, out of ignorance, make the MLA responsible for all of these. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4778 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:17 pm: |
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Zulu:So, Is there anything "Local" about an MLA? Afterall people choose "their" MLA right?
Ante, oka law frame chestunte, adi thana constituency ki against gaa, to benefit another constituency unte, the MLA can defend his area. Right? Only then the "local" thing comes into the picture. Otherwise, every law, the MLA, votes on affects the whole state, right? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 3940 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:11 pm: |
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So, Is there anything "Local" about an MLA? Afterall people choose "their" MLA right? Mr KCR tear down this wall! |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4777 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:07 pm: |
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Dts:Demographics nu baTTi rep. raavaali. an MLA should theoretically be chosen based on the demographics of the constitution.
picha comedy. Mari same MLA, all demographics ni affect chese laws anniti meeda vote ela vestadu? Emanna artham unda meeru cheppedaniki? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 4776 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:05 pm: |
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Dts:an MLA should theoretically be chosen based on the demographics of the constitution.
mee lokam lo ala pettukondi annai, unfortunately India lo, or in any democracy, MLA is the person whom ppl vote for. Chese job batti kadu. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 4775 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:02 pm: |
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Dts:concerned dept. lo corruption gurinchi action teesukovacchu. transfer ayyina maali oka IAS e vastaaDu vaaDu ilaane expose cheyyaali. entha mandini transfer chestaaru. So do you got your point. ultimately there exist a corrupt IAS officer who would be willing to work with minister.
adey MLA aithe, 1. Anti Corruption org ni strengthen chesela law tevachu. 2. Anti Corruption Orgs ki ministers, MLAs, MPs ni prosecute chese powers iche law tevachu. 3. Corrupt aina politicians ki vote veyakunda, proper alternative provide cheyachu. 4. Common man ki politics lo active part theesukunela educate cheyachu, oka platform provide cheyachu. Democracy is all about the common man doing things for himself. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 759 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:00 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Naa valla kaadu. Ee kotha concept enti, ee lekkana, job batti assembly constituencies pettali kiki
example ki cheppanu, job nu baTTi kaadu Demographics nu baTTi rep. raavaali. an MLA should theoretically be chosen based on the demographics of the constitution. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
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Post Number: 758 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:58 pm: |
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Indiarocks:kiki, JP was a doctor, and an IAS. Mari irrigation lo ye experience undi ani IAS gaa Krisha, Godavari delta irrigation meeda pani chesadu, excellent results teesukochadu?
Rep. veru officer very. officer ki training istaaru. administration matrame idi. rocket science akkarledu. concerned officials untaaru. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4774 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:58 pm: |
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Dts:So do you got your point. ultimately there exist a corrupt IAS officer who would be willing to work with minister.
FYI, IAS officers do not control ministers, it is the other way around. Ministers, MLAs make laws. IAS officer may only advice on them, but the voting power is with the MLA. period. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 4773 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:56 pm: |
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Dts:choodu baabu kOtlu unnavaaDu kOtlu unnODiki rep. oka Doctor lawyer nu rep. cheyya galaDaa? oka poojari kaarmikulanu rep. cheyyagalaDaa?
kiki, JP was a doctor, and an IAS. Mari irrigation lo ye experience undi ani IAS gaa Krisha, Godavari delta irrigation meeda pani chesadu, excellent results teesukochadu? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 756 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:56 pm: |
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Indiarocks: haha, ippudu revenue dept. lo corruption jargutundi ani concerned minister ki report chestaru, next week ye, Govt. lo influence use chesi, revenue dept. nundi transfer chestaru, em peekutadu, telisi adugutunnara? teliyaka? Asking for the third time, how many of us are willing to sacrifice our jobs, and careers to bring a change in the country?
concerned dept. lo corruption gurinchi action teesukovacchu. transfer ayyina maali oka IAS e vastaaDu vaaDu ilaane expose cheyyaali. entha mandini transfer chestaaru. So do you got your point. ultimately there exist a corrupt IAS officer who would be willing to work with minister. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4772 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:55 pm: |
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Dts:choodu baabu kOtlu unnavaaDu kOtlu unnODiki rep. oka Doctor lawyer nu rep. cheyya galaDaa? oka poojari kaarmikulanu rep. cheyyagalaDaa?
Naa valla kaadu. Ee kotha concept enti, ee lekkana, job batti assembly constituencies pettali kiki Adey mari, an MLA should be able to represent, and think about all sections of ppl in the society. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4771 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:53 pm: |
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Dts:jarugutundi tappu ani telisthe open gaa cheppaDaaniki limitations enti?
haha, ippudu revenue dept. lo corruption jargutundi ani concerned minister ki report chestaru, next week ye, Govt. lo influence use chesi, revenue dept. nundi transfer chestaru, em peekutadu, telisi adugutunnara? teliyaka? Asking for the third time, how many of us are willing to sacrifice our jobs, and careers to bring a change in the country? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 755 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:52 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Adenti, kotlu unte MLA avakudada, ppl ni represent cheyakudada? Kotlu unte manchi MLAs avvara? Ee comedy enti malli?
choodu baabu kOtlu unnavaaDu kOtlu unnODiki rep. oka Doctor lawyer nu rep. cheyya galaDaa? oka poojari kaarmikulanu rep. cheyyagalaDaa? కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
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Post Number: 754 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:51 pm: |
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Indiarocks: Aina first answer this dude, how many of us are willing to sacrifice our jobs, and careers to bring a change in the country?
Job sacrifice cheyyadam deniki. first of all job sarigga upayoginchukOledu. edE media daggaraku vacchi corrupt plans anni expose cheyyakoodadaa? corrupt laws pass avvakunda aapakooDadaa? కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4770 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:50 pm: |
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Dts:e.g., representative anthe aa constituency ki sagaTu manishi. nee lekkana kOtlaku paDagalu etthin CBN/YSR/Chiru vaalla niyojakavarganiki sagaTu manushulaa
Democracy lo rep ante the one whom ppl voted for ane. Adenti, kotlu unte MLA avakudada, ppl ni represent cheyakudada? Kotlu unte manchi MLAs avvara? Ee comedy enti malli? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 753 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:49 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Idi boothu mastaru. IAS officers lo chala mandi honest ppl unnaru. Kani as a bureaucrat chala limitations untayi. Which an MLA does not have.
jarugutundi tappu ani telisthe open gaa cheppaDaaniki limitations enti? కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4769 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:48 pm: |
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Dts:naaku color tv icchinoDe naa rep. anTaanu em chestaav?
Ippudu ee color TV ki kakkurthi padithe, nee pillalaki chaduvukovadaniki chaduvu, rogam vasthe hospital, pani cheyadaniki job, veetiki Govt. daggara money undavu ani cheppevadu okadu undali kada? Aina first answer this dude, how many of us are willing to sacrifice our jobs, and careers to bring a change in the country? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 752 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:47 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Elections lo elect aina vallu reps kakapothe meeru nena reps?
No no no! andhi mana dourbhagyam. shamkham tho isthe e neellaina theertham avvadu. you elect your representative but not the converse. not all elected ones be called representative. e.g., representative anthe aa constituency ki sagaTu manishi. nee lekkana kOtlaku paDagalu etthin CBN/YSR/Chiru vaalla niyojakavarganiki sagaTu manushulaa కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
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Post Number: 4768 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:45 pm: |
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Dts:Without the help of IAS officer no minister can do corruption (your definition).
Idi boothu mastaru. IAS officers lo chala mandi honest ppl unnaru. Kani as a bureaucrat chala limitations untayi. Which an MLA does not have. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 751 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:43 pm: |
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Indiarocks:So, one has to be in politics to show how a honest politician is supposed to be. To lead people in the right way.
IAS officers are with the politics. you just cannot declare yourself as leader. people has to elect you. they will elect their representatives. taanu mecchindi rambha anthe. naaku color tv icchinoDe naa rep. anTaanu em chestaav? first of all one should know which animal you are trying to tame. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4767 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:43 pm: |
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Dts:First of all none of CBN, YSR and JP are eligible to say that they are representatives? Which section people from they represent? How do you define a representative?
enti ee post ila undi? Elections lo elect aina vallu reps kakapothe meeru nena reps? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 4766 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:40 pm: |
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Dts: Remember TN Sheshan
TN Sheshan existing laws ni edi thappu ani cheppaledu. Already existing laws ni vaduka loki teesukochadu. Aina assembly pass chesaka, bill thappu, wrong ani vocal gaa cheppi em labham? Adey minister ki money teesukuni janalu vote vesthe em labham? So, one has to be in politics to show how a honest politician is supposed to be. To lead people in the right way. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 750 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:38 pm: |
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Indiarocks: anduke saaru, CBN, YSR, etc lanti politicians mathrame unna AP ki, JP as a collection, kante JP as a politician avasaram ekkuva undi.
First of all none of CBN, YSR and JP are eligible to say that they are representatives? Which section people from they represent? How do you define a representative? కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
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Post Number: 749 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:35 pm: |
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Indiarocks: That is the point. As an IAS officer, you can only ADVICE, and be helpless if the minister does not care.
It's not limited to that, they can even expose of the consequences to the people. Who said an IAS officer cannot raise voice. Remember TN Sheshan. If you have a sincere officer these cheap politicians cannot do their business other than making laws as per the wishes of the people. It is IAS officers that are corrupt and they hide behind the scene and expose the ministers. Without the help of IAS officer no minister can do corruption (your definition). An IAS officer can openly say no to minister and expose the cons to the public that the bill is meant to benefit the minister. Why are they not doing it? because they are involved in it. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
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Post Number: 4765 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:33 pm: |
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Dts:Unless you have a law you cannot judicially label it as corruption. andukey CBN YSR meeda YSR CBN meeda assembly lo baahaaTam gaa thousands of crores nokkesav ani parasparam anukunnaaru endukanTe em peekaleru kaabaTTi. nee statement prakaaram MLA dabbulu nokkesthe nuvvu em chestaavu? There is a famous saying that applies to politics "either I want less corruption or more chance to participate in it".
anduke saaru, CBN, YSR, etc lanti politicians mathrame unna AP ki, JP as a collection, kante JP as a politician avasaram ekkuva undi. Chakkaga collection udyogam chesukuni, secretary to CM, PM, ilanti posts lo undi, family tho gadipi, enjoy cheyyaka, em pani boss JP ki. IAS lo All India 3rd rank vachentha kashtapadi, top position lo undi evaranna resign chestara? Can any of us resign our jobs, for the sake of changing our country? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 4764 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:29 pm: |
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Dts:It is the advice of IAS officers that stops all these business tactics.
That is the point. As an IAS officer, you can only ADVICE, and be helpless if the minister does not care. But as an MLA, you can be vocal, educate people, bring out an agitation, and thereby force the same minister to take back his stupid law. If not, at least EDUCATE ppl why it is so important not to support such a law. As you said, it is all up to people. But educating ppl, and bringing out change does not happen overnight. It is a gradual process, that might take years, or even decades. As an IAS, one probably can only lay a few roads, provide jobs, or material comforts to people in a district. Being an MLA, and leading people towards honest politics, is a far more noble, and difficult act. If successful it can change the direction in which the state, or country heads for ever. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 748 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:26 pm: |
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Indiarocks:. Corruption defined based on existing law naa, ye law ni base chesukuni define chestaru, konchem cheppava annai. Ippudu konni projects ki tenders lekunda, nomination ani ichestunnaru, ala ani GO testharu, adi corruption kaada? Alage vote vestaru ani vadi babu sommu ainattu 2000Rs per month istamu antunnaru, ala ani law kooda testharu, adi corruption kaada? Law ni break chestene corruption annadi mee kotha definition, ekkada vinaledu.
Unless you have a law you cannot judicially label it as corruption. andukey CBN YSR meeda YSR CBN meeda assembly lo baahaaTam gaa thousands of crores nokkesav ani parasparam anukunnaaru endukanTe em peekaleru kaabaTTi. nee statement prakaaram MLA dabbulu nokkesthe nuvvu em chestaavu? There is a famous saying that applies to politics "either I want less corruption or more chance to participate in it".
Indiarocks: Muslim reservations meeda GO ni High court enduku reject chesindi, unconstitutional ani? Mari adi Govt. made law ne gaa? kiki
law make cheyyacchu kadaani edi paDite adhi cheyya kooDadu. Constitution ku lobaDi unDaali daanne court gurthu chesindi. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
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Post Number: 6709 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 24.13.168.204
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:22 pm: |
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Indiarocks:kaadu annai, maree antha comedy cheste inkem cheyali?
JP ni chusi mundu nerchukovalsindi sahanam anukunta  |
   
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Post Number: 747 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:21 pm: |
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Indiarocks:chambal rani daka enduku, prathi village ki mosque, Free rice, Rs 2000 free every month, ivanni pedithe votes veyyaleda janalu. These are what become laws if the respective parties win.
MLA are meant to represent majority of the people. You are pointing out the existing practice which more of business oriented then representation. But nobody can stop it as long as they are elected. It's up to people. You cannot wand a magic and make people think as you think. But all that I am saying is that it is IAS officer who advices ministers of the pros and cons and the decision will be made by assembly. Why do you think Ministers say no when oppositions ask for price cut or any people friendly thinks. ministers could just do wonders do allure their voters right? It is the advice of IAS officers that stops all these business tactics. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
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Post Number: 4763 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:21 pm: |
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Dts:But that happens only after the current govt. looses the term until then you cannot say it as corruption as per the established laws.
Muslim reservations meeda GO ni High court enduku reject chesindi, unconstitutional ani? Mari adi Govt. made law ne gaa? kiki Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 4762 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:19 pm: |
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Dts:Corruption is defined based on existing law
. Corruption defined based on existing law naa, ye law ni base chesukuni define chestaru, konchem cheppava annai. Ippudu konni projects ki tenders lekunda, nomination ani ichestunnaru, ala ani GO testharu, adi corruption kaada? Alage vote vestaru ani vadi babu sommu ainattu 2000Rs per month istamu antunnaru, ala ani law kooda testharu, adi corruption kaada? Law ni break chestene corruption annadi mee kotha definition, ekkada vinaledu. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 4761 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:16 pm: |
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Rowdy:IR mama ... nee posts bahu muchatagaa untai gaani aa ali icons, ekkirinta icons bhale chiragga untai ... kasta taggincharade
kaadu annai, maree antha comedy cheste inkem cheyali? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Dts
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Post Number: 746 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:14 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Inkoti enti, corrupt, non-corrupt only applies to officers, but not MLAs aa? . What if the MLAs frame laws to benefit only them, but not the common man, adi corruption kaada? MLAs crores petti votes kontunnaru, adi corruption kaada? Corruption laws ni strengthen cheyakunda, system ni vadukuntunnaru, adi corruption kaada?
It depends on how you define corruption. Corruption is defined based on existing law. If the law itself is made to benefit the law maker then a new law has to be brought to stop it. But that happens only after the current govt. looses the term until then you cannot say it as corruption as per the established laws. If a polices takes bribe than that's corruption, but an MLA's accept huge amounts of money and label it as fund raising. under what law you are going to arrest them? కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4760 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:13 pm: |
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Dts:Once again thanks for opening/broadening my eyes.
enti broadening saaru, Assembly lo oka bill meeda yes/no ani vote veyyalo ledo kooda IASle cheptara? comedy kakapothe. Alage oka law useful, or not, emanna amendments cheyala annadi kooda IASle cheptara? konchem anna vishayam telsukuni appudu judgementlu ivvandi. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Rowdy
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Post Number: 6707 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 24.13.168.204
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IR mama ... nee posts bahu muchatagaa untai gaani aa ali icons, ekkirinta icons bhale chiragga untai ... kasta taggincharade |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4759 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:11 pm: |
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Dts:telisi annaaro tieliayaka annaro kaani adhi pacchi nijam. Chembal raani kooDa MLA avvaacchu mari aame bill draft chesthe elaa unTundo voohinchukOnDi.
chambal rani daka enduku, prathi village ki mosque, Free rice, Rs 2000 free every month, ivanni pedithe votes veyyaleda janalu. These are what become laws if the respective parties win. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Dts
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Post Number: 745 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:10 pm: |
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Indiarocks: IAS is key in the bureaucracy, but they can only implement a law. Their contribution in law making is "0".
Once again thanks for opening/broadening my eyes. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4758 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:09 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Their contribution in law making is "0".
correction here. I mean that they can only help/advise a minister in making a law, but if the minister chooses not to do it, they cannot force it. So the sole power lies in the hands of an MLA. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Dts
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Post Number: 744 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:08 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Ante ippudunna vallaki aa scene ledu, aithe does not draft a law naa?
telisi annaaro tieliayaka annaro kaani adhi pacchi nijam. Chembal raani kooDa MLA avvaacchu mari aame bill draft chesthe elaa unTundo voohinchukOnDi. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Dts
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Post Number: 743 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:04 pm: |
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Indiarocks:
Some excerpts from Wiki: - The officials of the IAS are involved in civil administration and policy-making. The Constituent Assembly of India intended that the bureaucracy should be able to speak out freely, without fear of persecution or financial insecurity as an essential element in unifying the nation. The IAS officers are recruited by the Union government on the recommendation of the Union Public Service Commission (UPSC) and posted under various State governments. While the respective State Governments have control over them they can not censure or take disciplinary action against IAS and other All India Services officers without consulting the Union Government and the UPSC. This independence has been sometimes severely criticised by many quarters of civil society. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4757 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 09:03 pm: |
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Dts:An MLA does not have capacity of drafting a law. Minister (MLA/MLC) will provide guidelines to IAS officers and based on which IAS officers will draft the bill which will be discussed on the floor of Assembly for voting.
IAS officers meeda Ministers ki control untundi, MLA ki emuntundi. MLA does not draft a law naa , evaru chepparu. Ante ippudunna vallaki aa scene ledu, aithe does not draft a law naa? Dts:IAS officer is part of politics
Bureaucracy ki, polity ki theda teliyada saaru? Dts:s administrative officers they form the key body of bureaucrats.
IAS is key in the bureaucracy, but they can only implement a law. Their contribution in law making is "0". Dts:No, that's not true entirely. An IAS officer is appointed by central govt. and they act independently. Subordinate is the relation between minister and IAS officer as they both report to Governor.
Though that is how on paper, all IASs function, and obey orders given by ministers. Dts:hammayya entha simple gaa prove aithi MLA > IAS. naa kallu teruchukunnaayi.
MLA, IAS represent two totally different wings of the system. Renditiki link petti IAS can do as much work as an MLA ani maa kallu teripinchindi meeru. Inkoti enti, corrupt, non-corrupt only applies to officers, but not MLAs aa? . What if the MLAs frame laws to benefit only them, but not the common man, adi corruption kaada? MLAs crores petti votes kontunnaru, adi corruption kaada? Corruption laws ni strengthen cheyakunda, system ni vadukuntunnaru, adi corruption kaada? Ilanti kotha idealu mee daggara chalane unnattu unnayi  Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Dts
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Post Number: 742 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 08:53 pm: |
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Dts:Subordinate is the relation between minister and IAS officer as they both report to Governor.
Correction: Subordinate is NOT the .... కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Dts
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Post Number: 741 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 08:52 pm: |
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Indiarocks:An IAS officer has to be subordinate to a minister, an MLA need not.
No, that's not true entirely. An IAS officer is appointed by central govt. and they act independently. Subordinate is the relation between minister and IAS officer as they both report to Governor. Whereas MLA does not hold any executive position to report to somebody. Their job is to make law. They are subordinates to the people they represent. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Dts
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Post Number: 740 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 08:46 pm: |
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Indiarocks:FYI an IAS cannot make a law. An MLA even in the opposition can put forth a private bill, and make a huge difference. An IAS cannot debate in the assembly. An MLA can do that, and show to ppl how a meaningful debate has to take place in the assembly. An IAS officer has to be subordinate to a minister, an MLA need not. Last but not the least, an IAS cannot change the system of politics. An MLA can do it, by being an example. So, before you form any opinions, you should at least know why JP chose to become a politician.
hammayya entha simple gaa prove aithi MLA > IAS. naa kallu teruchukunnaayi. Do you know that India has laws made on par with any of the developed countries in the world then why do you think a third world country? Secondly, laws are actually drafted by IAS officers only and it will be voted for/against in assembly. An MLA does not have capacity of drafting a law. Minister (MLA/MLC) will provide guidelines to IAS officers and based on which IAS officers will draft the bill which will be discussed on the floor of Assembly for voting. An IAS officer need not debate in assembly, that's not the part of their duty. They duty is to administer the government. It is the duty of an MLA to debate in the assembly according to the consensus of the people whom he/she represent. On the contrary an IAS officer does NOT REPRESENT anybody to debate for. IAS officer is part of politics along with judiciary, military and people's representatives (your MLAs and MPs). As administrative officers they form the key body of bureaucrats. So they are within the system. Changing the system is up to people, they can do it if they want to via their representatives. But that does not mean that we don't need executive body nor it could demean the executive body. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4755 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 06:58 pm: |
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Indiarocks:So, before you form any opinions, you should at least know why JP chose to become a politician.
correction, before you form any opinions, you should at least know what a collector can do, and cannot, and what an MLA can do, and cannot. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4754 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 06:47 pm: |
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Dts:Good point! That's the reason why I hate JP. There nothing more MLAs could do than an dedicated IAS officer.
FYI an IAS cannot make a law. An MLA even in the opposition can put forth a private bill, and make a huge difference. An IAS cannot debate in the assembly. An MLA can do that, and show to ppl how a meaningful debate has to take place in the assembly. An IAS officer has to be subordinate to a minister, an MLA need not. Last but not the least, an IAS cannot change the system of politics. An MLA can do it, by being an example. So, before you form any opinions, you should at least know why JP chose to become a politician. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Dts
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Post Number: 739 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 06:40 pm: |
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Sanman:maa constituency ni aadarsa constituency gaa teerchi diddutam anadam lantivi chestunnaru. adhanthaa leni pettanam nettina vesukunnatle na. JP garu enduku victim autunnaaru ee misconception ki. law making tho patu thega kasta padutunnaru kktplly lo. ofcourse migilina MLAs rendu levu anukondi
Good point! That's the reason why I hate JP. There nothing more MLAs could do than an dedicated IAS officer. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4753 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 06:39 pm: |
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Actually there is no body to blame here, or point fingers at. Once a citizen become eligible to vote, we have no mechanism that teaches him what an MLA, corporator, Mayor, MP does. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4752 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 06:38 pm: |
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Sanman:thank you for the responses. so those who went through this thread at least know that drainage, roads, municipality etc are not under the control of MLAs neither are they to take blame for them. i believe most of their powers come from common knowledge that they are close to ministers. recent gaa MLAs velli collector tho godava padatam, maa constituency ni aadarsa constituency gaa teerchi diddutam anadam lantivi chestunnaru. adhanthaa leni pettanam nettina vesukunnatle na. JP garu enduku victim autunnaaru ee misconception ki. law making tho patu thega kasta padutunnaru kktplly lo. ofcourse migilina MLAs rendu levu anukondi
Ppl expect it bro. They want miracles from JP. Even educated ppl do not know for what they elected their MLA. Road bagokapothe JP responsible, chetha teeyakapothe JP responsible, drinking water rakapothe JP responsible. Fact is that he has no direct control over any of these. Nor he is responsible for these. Janalaki corporator ni enduku elect chesukunnamu teliyadu, Mayor enduku teliyadu, asalu MLA ki ee development funds ki ye mathram sambandham ledu annadi teliyadu. Kaneesam ee problems gurinchi concerned official ki complaint cheyaru, kaani guddeddhu laga blame cheyadaniki ready gaa untaru. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 26 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 06:25 pm: |
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thank you for the responses. so those who went through this thread at least know that drainage, roads, municipality etc are not under the control of MLAs neither are they to take blame for them. i believe most of their powers come from common knowledge that they are close to ministers. recent gaa MLAs velli collector tho godava padatam, maa constituency ni aadarsa constituency gaa teerchi diddutam anadam lantivi chestunnaru. adhanthaa leni pettanam nettina vesukunnatle na. JP garu enduku victim autunnaaru ee misconception ki. law making tho patu thega kasta padutunnaru kktplly lo. ofcourse migilina MLAs rendu levu anukondi |
   
Dts
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Post Number: 738 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 03:25 pm: |
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Its good that at least somebody raised this thread. An MLA is a law maker on behalf of the people being represented. I don't know how one defines corrupt and non-corrupt MLAs: as the only thing they do is to bring the laws. So the corrupt/non-corrupt thing applies to officials that execute the laws not MLAs. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" |
   
Ntr_fan
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Post Number: 23419 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 65.161.188.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 02:31 pm: |
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Indiarocks:oka pakkana MLA em cheyadaniki elect chesukuntamu teliyadu antaru. Malli inkoka pakkana I expect him to be functional antaru. Em teliyakunda ela expect chestaru? Contradictory gaa ledu?
pani cheyyali ani telusukani , ye ye panulu cheyyalo telvadu ani naa meaning nataraja.. |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4751 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 02:27 pm: |
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Ntr_fan:enduku nataraja atta navvavu?
oka pakkana MLA em cheyadaniki elect chesukuntamu teliyadu antaru. Malli inkoka pakkana I expect him to be functional antaru. Em teliyakunda ela expect chestaru? Contradictory gaa ledu? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Ntr_fan
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Post Number: 23417 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 65.161.188.11
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 02:23 pm: |
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Indiarocks:
enduku nataraja atta navvavu? |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4750 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Sanman:years tarabadi politics discuss chestunnaru. may be before we talk about how good they are we need to know what is expected of them
Naaku telsindi cheptanu. MLA - Member of Legislative Assembly Legislative Assembly - House at the state level, where laws are made, on items designated that the state has control on. So, primary functions of the MLA are: 1. Put forth bills that are to be made laws. 2. Put forth his views on proposed bills, contribute amendments, so that the bills make sense, and do good to the ppl. Most importantly, except through general policy making, MLAs do NOT have any say on how much funds are allocated to his constituency. Of course, in the recent years MLAs are being awarded some funds per year. But these are a meager amount. MLAs do NOT have control on the local corporators, Mayors, or city/village officials. So, maa colony lo road veyaledu, maa veedhilo chetha lorry ravatledu ani MLA ki complaint cheste, all he can do is use his contacts, and push the officials. He does NOT have any executive power over the concerned official. In otherwords edanna godava vasthe private panchayiti chesinatlu solve cheyali ee problems ni. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
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Post Number: 16751 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 01:54 pm: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_of_the_Legislative_Assem bly_(India) "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 4749 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Ntr_fan:i don't know what are the responsibilities of MLA
Ntr_fan:But I expect MLA tobe nonCorrupt and functional
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Post Number: 2977 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.163.80.210
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 01:20 pm: |
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Sanman:What are the duties of MLA
OY laki velladam, OY ki janaaanni tholadam.. |
   
Ntr_fan
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Post Number: 23412 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 65.161.188.11
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 01:14 pm: |
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to be frank i don't know what are the responsibilities of MLA. But I expect MLA tobe nonCorrupt and functional. |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 25 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 01:08 pm: |
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years tarabadi politics discuss chestunnaru. may be before we talk about how good they are we need to know what is expected of them |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 24 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 09:33 pm: |
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teliyaka ne adugutunna. mee dream MLA ela undaalo list pettakunda constitution lo em undho evaraina teliste cheppandi |