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Jalsa:


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Its important to define the term 'real' before digging deeper. There are two different definitions. One is that anything that we currently perceive is real. in other words Perception is reality...momentariness is reality. Its the basic Buddhist philosophy.

Second definition would be that impermanence is unreal and permanence is real. Anything that changes or/and can be changed is unreal. If there is such an entity, that is the only reality. Its the basic Vedanthic philosophy. Can humans ever perceive such reality? Several people in the past believed they did.

Which definition is true depends on the individual belief. Its a subjective experience, so can never be proven and the fight is always on!
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MS,
You went in another line of thought - of ability to perceive Reality ...

I am asking if the mind perceives unreality, that perception itself is still reality:-) for the fraction of time that the mind perceives something, both the perceiver(observer) and perceived are Real :-)

It can only become unreal/non-existent after that time is past :-) so if you are truly in the moment everything perceived is real:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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can human mind ever contemplate Reality, if everything we can visualize is unreal, can a sense of consciousness be ever pure enough to know its Real. Perception is through the window of mind, the glass of which is stained by the state of mind, can human mind ever reach a stage where the glass is stainless. In this state of statelessness, if at all, is called consciousness, do the physical senses of pain and pleasure cease to exist or just appear the same. In this world of illusions, can Reality be just another illusion, just another state of mind.

What about the other extreme, where the glass is so stained that you see nothing - not even a sense of unreal reality.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat
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Kamal:


anna .. bagunna .. meeru ela unnaru? kusalama?


doing fine tammi. parents visiting here and summer break for kids so visiting around and and this db in ROM.
In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day
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Okahyderabadi:

enti tammi etla unnavu



anna .. bagunna .. meeru ela unnaru? kusalama?
"To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army
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Kamal:


enti tammi etla unnavu
In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day
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Ishan:

Reincarnation and rebirths are not the subjects of Advaitha, FYI.



Avuna .. vaarini .. have to get back to my basics .. adenti .. I thought ivi kuda matladutundemo anukuntunna inka nenu ! ignorance is bliss ani induke annaru !

Anand_n:

Though soulmate in that context does not necessarily mean romantic partner but people you feel connected to



hehe .. indulo kuda manchi soulabhyam undi .. chala mandi tho connect aipovachu easy ga .. :D
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Kamal:

kuda oka rakam ga bagane undi ..




Ela gurtu untundi- the focus was totally on the possibility of multiple soulmates

Though soulmate in that context does not necessarily mean romantic partner but people you feel connected to :-)

Pomegranate_life:

Did you check this BT?




Just saw it :-) Good initial puzzle- inception was a giveaway - attempt chese time ledu so I read the answers
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Kamal:


nice .. I did not know this .. so western world lo kuda advaitha proponents unnaru annamata .


Its not advaitha he is talking about - advaitha strictly believes that there is only one i.e. brahman that exists and nothing else including body and individual souls. Reincarnation and rebirths are not the subjects of Advaitha, FYI.
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Anand_n:


Meeku okappudu pagan soulmate theory cheppanu - gurtu unda ?


ledandi .. excuse my poor memory .. :-)

kaani ee sari baga ardam ayyindi ... and marchipoye chance ledu .. ! pagan soulmate theory .. kuda oka rakam ga bagane undi .. :D
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Anand_n:

LOL - I missed the most obvious one - was not thinking on those lines at all :-)




Did you check this BT?

http://www.chalanachithram.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=1 25&post=1679789#POST1679789
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LOL - I missed the most obvious one - was not thinking on those lines at all :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

Do you remember the Act number ???




Nope.

The Quote I posted is an Anagram of "To be, or not to be: that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune"

Real Vs Unreal
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Do you remember the Act number ???
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Kamal:

nice .. I did not know this .. so western world lo kuda advaitha proponents unnaru annamata .. thx for letting me know ..




:-)

Meeku okappudu pagan soulmate theory cheppanu - gurtu unda ?

About belief that what started as one soul split into Adam and Eve, then into further units - and that all units that came from the same branch have soul affinity and are soulmates to varying degrees ani :-) Adi western theory e :-)


Ashton:

Dualism is more confined to body & mind..




OK I think we are looking at Dualism differently - I am talking about the dualism as in "the pairs of opposites " mentioned in your second quote :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

Need to revisit the works of Shakespeare - been decades since I read them and I probably will appreciate them more now ...




You completely missed it. Re-read it again in connection to your question and you will get it.
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Pomegranate_life:

In one of the Bard's best-thought-of tragedies, our insistent hero, Hamlet, queries on two fronts about how life turns rotten.




:-)Need to revisit the works of Shakespeare - been decades since I read them and I probably will appreciate them more now ...

I think this is a quote from Hamlet too : "There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so"
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Ashton:

He believed that after death of a body, soul is implanted in another body and returns back to the world...



nice .. I did not know this .. so western world lo kuda advaitha proponents unnaru annamata .. thx for letting me know ..
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Anand_n:

Is seeing things as opposites of real and unreal dualism too




I think, Dualism is more confined to body & mind..For example Plato is a dualistic person who came up with the theory of real & unreal objects...For every dog, there is an idea dog....for every person, there is an ideal person..He believed that after death of a body, soul is implanted in another body and returns back to the world...so, I think plato is a good example of dualistic approach of seeing things...



Anand_n:

If there is one reality - where is the scope for unreal to exist ?



That's a very good question....I don't have the answer...
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Anand_n:

If there is one reality - where is the scope for unreal to exist ?




In one of the Bard's best-thought-of tragedies, our insistent hero, Hamlet, queries on two fronts about how life turns rotten.
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pakkir danni theci pallakila pedithe lesi lesi masjid loki urikindanta...
poragani ban chesi silent ga koso ra ayya ante id la meeda id lu creste sesi post esindanta...

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Ashton:

Truly dualism is the root of suffering. There is no other remedy for it than the realisation that all this that we see is unreal, and that I am the one stainless reality, consisting of consciousness.
�Ashtavakra Gita 2.16




Is seeing things as opposites of real and unreal dualism too ? If there is one reality - where is the scope for unreal to exist ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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the cycle of hangover n being sober is caused from time immemorial by alcohol which displays itself as both beer n hard liquor and yet its only a liquid n smooth

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Oka peg whisky lo konchem beer, konchem joda, konchem lime juice, konchem water esukuni thaagithe untadi naa saami ranga!
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Elcaminocapastrino:

Maverick:

I do this sometimes. separate dip kaadu, baaga karam unna kobbari cutney lo sugar esi kalipesi dosa munchite aha

superr untadhi mama combo...sweet n spice keka





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one more...

dont let anyone tell u wat to eat when....cereals are not only meant for breakfast...try it as thanks giving dinner for next time and throw the turkey out of the window....

sita....
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Maverick:

kobbari cutney lo sugar esi kalipesi dosa munchite aha



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Maverick:

I do this sometimes. separate dip kaadu, baaga karam unna kobbari cutney lo sugar esi kalipesi dosa munchite aha


superr untadhi mama combo...sweet n spice keka
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>>Tommorow when u sit for breakfast dip ur dosa mulla in bth chutney n sugar.

I do this sometimes. separate dip kaadu, baaga karam unna kobbari cutney lo sugar esi kalipesi dosa munchite aha
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language problem anukunta
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some quotes....

doing the same thing in conventional way makes ur chores mundane n boring.
Howm many days will u eat a dosa with only chutney.
Tommorow when u sit for breakfast dip ur dosa mulla in bth chutney n sugar.
Lemme know how it tastes...

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Ashton:

Truly dualism is the root of suffering. There is no other remedy for it than the realisation that all this that we see is unreal, and that I am the one stainless reality, consisting of consciousness.


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Ashton
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The cycle of births and deaths is from time immemorial caused by ignorance which displays itself as pleasure and pain and yet is only a dream and unreal.
—Tripura Rahasya XVII 24-26

Desire springs from usage, and aversion from abstension, but the wise man is free from the pairs of opposites like a child, and becomes established.
—Ashtavakra Gita 16.8

Truly dualism is the root of suffering. There is no other remedy for it than the realisation that all this that we see is unreal, and that I am the one stainless reality, consisting of consciousness.
—Ashtavakra Gita 2.16

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