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     Bushu Junior Artist Username: Bushu Post Number: 913 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 4.26.17.58 Rating: N/A |
and kamal, mee bhajapa 5 yrs undi em peekindhi? oka farce op. parakram chesaru, kargil negligence, article 370 etlundho atne undhi, haj subsidy atne undhi, white paper on terrorism annadu avadhaani - no white paper and no ram temple in ayodhya. they were as big a failure as congress ever was. where's the difference? at least VP Singh came in and made a difference to around 50% of the population whether the other 50% liked it or not. he was thus a hero for half the country while BJP failed for everyone. what gives? | ||
| Bushu Junior Artist Username: Bushu Post Number: 912 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 4.26.17.58 Rating: N/A |
that's an oxymoron  but nee solution endhi cheppu. em ayunduntey india nee ram rajyam ayyedhi or avuthundhi? | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14753 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
ledu annai .. vadileyyi nannu .. ignorant idiot ni .. !  Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 88 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 76.98.126.13 Rating: N/A |
you have no clue as to what you talk.. do you? The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14751 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
India was/is/will always be India .. as long as the Hindu connection is there .. we saw that happen in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh and PoK - kavalante going forward Kashmir valley will be a case in point .. alage Kerala, West bengal too, the day the Hindu population over there comes to a meagre 10% .. those states will be out from present day India .. even though our holy "independent" institutions keep doing wat they are doing .. choosukondi .. constitution lo marpulaki eppudu aaskaram undi, no doubt .. and daniki mamoolu ga aithe viluva ichevadine .. kaani unfortunately, adi oka party adhikaraniki, raajakeeyaniki, desa daurbhagyaniki kaaranam ayyi ee 60 ellalo bali ayyindi .. if at all anything .. vipareetam ga marpulu ravali daniki .. Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4078 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
anukunna, ilantidi edo rastaru ani  Meeru cheppindi correct aithe, country motham eppudu united gane undali for centuries. Ala unte Mughal invasion, British invasion undevu kavu. Constitution ni individuals tho kalapakandi. Whether you like it or not, it represents ppl. Manakosam, manam rasukunnadi. Kadu rasindi Congress valle, Ambedkar kooda Congress vaade antara. We always had the provision to amend it. Nenu PRP ni support cheyanu, kaani Chiru fan kabatti aayana em chesina support chestanu - oka fan Prajalu JP Indra lo Chiru laga velli schools kosam funds adagali ani korukuntunnaru - same fan | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4077 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
Nenu naa opinions evo post cheste, prati danni JP/LSP tho link pettakandi.  Nenu PRP ni support cheyanu, kaani Chiru fan kabatti aayana em chesina support chestanu - oka fan Prajalu JP Indra lo Chiru laga velli schools kosam funds adagali ani korukuntunnaru - same fan | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4076 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
Don't read too much into my lines. Oka conglomerate of kingdoms, a foreign rule for 2 centuries, and then suddenly thrust into democracy. Ilanti history, undi 60yrs gaa oka nation gaa edigindi ante, ruling Govts should get their due. Ala kaadu non-Cong Govts unte inka better gaa undedi, anataniki you only have a hypothesis, but no proof. Nenu pratidi Cong Vs Non-Cong mindset tho choodanu. Meeru choostaru. Adey difference. And JP's struggle is not with one party, period. He maintains the stand that the "political culture" of all parties is the same today. This is quite obvious. JP words lo - Politics ane aata niyamalu marali, aatagallu kaadu. Ippati aata niyamalu ante - liquor, money for votes, criminals ki seats, caste, misuse of power etc. etc. Veetiki ye party atheetham kaadu, ledu ante adi athma vanchana thappa inkoti ledu. Inka ikkada ruling Govt. ki special respect ekkada nundi vachindi? JP ki Cong ante special prema ante, anthakanna comedy ledu. Asalu JP IAS chesi public life loki vachinde Emergency valana. He could not bear the fact that a Govt. can trounce the freedom of its citizens. So, JP's love is for democracy. Oka party ante prema, inko party ante kopam etc, anedi a very ill informed, narrow minded view of him. Nenu PRP ni support cheyanu, kaani Chiru fan kabatti aayana em chesina support chestanu - oka fan Prajalu JP Indra lo Chiru laga velli schools kosam funds adagali ani korukuntunnaru - same fan | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14744 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
always suspected this .. and idi meeku personal ga unna feeling kooda ayyundakapovachu .. even JP, LS, NGOs have these ideas and respect for those who ruled all these years .. anduke his (JP/LS) struggle is more with opposition than government anipistundi naaku ..
miracle enduku jarigindo saraina reason identify chesunte .. adi only India ke enduku jarigindo .. malli malli enduku jarugutundo .. no matter if there is a Gandhi/Nehru/Ambedkar's constitution are present or not .. it lies beyond that .. the truth is .. with its Hindu ethos .. this country does not need trivial reasons like Gandhi/Nehru/Constitution to be united ! period !!! Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Chivuks Side Hero Username: Chivuks Post Number: 6777 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 59.92.156.0 Rating: N/A |
yes true .. but at times i think .. they would have got goose bumps with a different feeling, if they were to alive to see how we are ... and what difference their sacrifice made ... | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 3756 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: |
you don't need insight for that...you have to just check facts | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7616 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
Please read the post carefully - I said the leadership not the country 
Well you seem to have more insight into the workings of their minds and their intent than I do
Thanks for the reminder - its been years since I read this.Mee post chusi search cheste online dorikindi For the interested...Bhagat Singh's article/pamphlet "Why I am an Atheist" http://www.marxists.org/archive/bhagat-singh/1930/10/05.htm aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 3754 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
i blame them because they maliciously encouraged that sycophancy while outwardly endorsing democracy beginning from the rule of nehru....FYI india is not unified by nehru parivar...please don't degrade india....more than 50% of india doesn't endorse them...they just have structural advantage with their hijack of congress party...had india opted for two party system...this family would have become history long back...that's a structural flaw....and it's a deliberate flaw | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7614 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
And you blame Nehru/Gandhi for the sycophancy of the remaining Indian leadership that even today cannot seem to find a unifying leader beyond that family - given that I would think if it had not been Nehru parivar, we would have had a patel parivar or some other parivar... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 3751 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
oka parivar perform cheyyatam kaadhu andi democracy nilabadali ante...PM seat lo koorchunna vaadu evadaina rajyam chesettu vundaali prajaswamya vyavastha | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7613 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
Nehru Parivar kanna Patel Parivar better perform chesedi anedi mee assumption emo ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 3750 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: |
credeit evariki anna ivvali ante post-independence adhi sardar patel ki who united 500 odd samsthanams.....without nehru parivar india would have become a better democracy with rule of law ....emergency evaru pettaro cheppakrledhu ga meeku | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4075 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi okkadi valana ani ekkada cheppanu. After independence ippati varaku rule chesina vallaki aa credit ivvalsinde. Asalu ippudu unna evils Constitution gurinchi separate gaa second line lo rasanu. Ekkada follow autunnaru, anni dani meedaku toseyyadaniki. Half of the evils are coz of ppl not respecting it. Nenu PRP ni support cheyanu, kaani Chiru fan kabatti aayana em chesina support chestanu - oka fan Prajalu JP Indra lo Chiru laga velli schools kosam funds adagali ani korukuntunnaru - same fan | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 3749 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
maastaru adhedho gandhi, nehru valla india 60 years kalisi vundhi annatuga cheptunnaru ga.....constitution gandhi, nehru maatrame tayaaru chesara?....it's because of independence struggle and the leadership it produced that made india what it is today...what is the basis for that common independent struggle...the basis is cultural unity of india....spiritual and political leaders like ramakrishna paramahamsa, vivekananda, aurobindo,swaqmi dayananda, tilak,gandhi, savarkar, lalalajpat rai invoked that cultural unity of india and unite the country once again at political level....india was united politically several times in history going bak to several millenia...please don't reduce indian identity to constitution or british rule | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 3748 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
M_S mee view on gandhi cheppandi bro..... | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4074 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
Judiciary effectiveness gurinchi meeru matladutunnara saaru. Prati daniki constitution meeda tosestunnaru, implement cheyalsindi Govts. Asalu constitution follow aithe kada, adi karanam ani cheppadaniki. Entha baaga implement chestunnayo examples ivvana malli? kiki
 super cheppavu. Naa ID ki behind story ide. Inni languages, cultures, religions, dialects, intha diversity undi, 60yrs bathiki batta kattina nation charithra lo ledu, undabodu. period. It is a miracle. Prati daniki constitution ni thittadam fashion aipoyindi. ASalu ekkada follow autunnaru danni. Follow avvake kada problem. Nenu PRP ni support cheyanu, kaani Chiru fan kabatti aayana em chesina support chestanu - oka fan Prajalu JP Indra lo Chiru laga velli schools kosam funds adagali ani korukuntunnaru - same fan | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2457 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 71.195.29.143 Rating: N/A |
azad ji..  Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2456 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 71.195.29.143 Rating: N/A |
Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 3747 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
annai..appatike system was manipulated and subjugated....oka rubber stamp president ni gelipinchi emergency ni pettindhi....but rajendra prasad, radhakrishnan lanti vallu rubber stamps kaadhu.....antha enduku lalbahdur shastri taravatha indira ne dhee kottina leaders vunnaru congress lo....but appatike desham lo nehru samrajyaniki punadhulu paddayi..nidanamga kooturni techaadu....democracy kaburlu janaki chebutu...he just behaved like a monarch.....most of the big leaders contemporary to nehru died in a few years after independence..... | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14743 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
enduku cheyyalsindi anthe silent ga chesestonte .. ala evangelicals!!! Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 3746 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
Aurobindo's views on freedom movement, gandhi and hisw prophecy of India's Rebirth from the ruins of west http://voiceofdharma.org/books/ir/IR_frontpage.htm | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 3745 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
i am not saying they are fools bro...but most of them are simple dharmic indians of faith who followed their leaders...Do you think without using spiritual symbols gandhi would have been successful in mobilising people?...i also admire him in some aspects of his thinking on economy and governance...his understanding of india was much much better than his lituenants like nehru | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6651 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.115.51.3 Rating: N/A |
aa friction techedi Azad/Bhagath ni worship chesevaare. Anand said it all in her previous post.. you see threadsd denigrating Gandhi and Nehru but you dont see threads denigrating Azad, Patel or Bhagath. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6650 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.115.51.3 Rating: N/A |
vja annai.. Indira emergency ela declare cheyagalgindhi? Indira time lo kuda migitha leaders unnaru and consititution kuda undhi..Indir time lo ruling govt ki checks and balances unnayi but Nehru time ki avemi levu.. he could have done anything if he wanted to. | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14742 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
just because .. people have made herculean efforts to erase the memories of Azad/Patel/Bhagat .. and it certainly yielded gud fruits .. and thats how it causes friction among the people who worship Azad/Patel/Bhagat etc .. Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14741 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
the problem is .. if u only say A is great, always .. it naturally undermines B and his efforts and his contributions .. Congress gurinchi matladatam ledu .. normal jantha gurinche matladutunna ..
I did not .. naaku Gandhi .. at a personal level nachedi .. for his ideas like non-cooperation movement etc .. kaani his mental block against, violence as an option and freedom being paramount, is what baffles me .. and then his open comments against Bhagat/Bose etc people is silly .. just because they did not subscribe to his ideas .. I do not remember reading anytime that Gandhi was criticized by Bose/Bhagat/Azad etc openly .. they accepted that he was the country's tallest leader of the time and aa respect icharu .. adi nilupukolekapoyadu Gandhi .. atleast naa drustilo .. and we, the current generation, have certainly forgotten Bose/Bhagat/Azad etc revolutionaries .. no matter how u deny .. we do not give even 1% of what we do to honor Gandhi/Nehru and their ilk .. Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 3744 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
nehru appude dictator ayyipotaniki atanu emi solo leader kaadhu for independent india.....patel vunnadu, rajendra prasad vunnadu,rajaji vunnadu..somnath vishayam lo patel, rajendra prasad nehru ni care kooda cheyyala..he was just one among many...infact many pcc's prefereed patel...nehru heroism,aura mothaam 60 years congress rule jananiki brain wash chesi create chesaaru... 1948 ke constitution ni accept chesaaru.....mana desham lo judiciary entha effective vo choostunnam kqadha.....nehru chesina tappulu kondantha aithe oppulu pisarantha...inka evaru aa post lo vunna antha kante 10 times mele chesevaaru | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7612 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
Who ignored the others ? What is this attitude of you can only appreciate either Gandhi or the Azad/Bhagat/Patel ? Each had their place and deserve respect - its unfortunate though that people cannot even pay tribute to one of them without denigrating another... Inka elevating/ignoring ante why do you think we don't see threads on contributions of Azad/Patel/Bhagat every so often but we do see those denigrating Gandhi on a regular basis aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4050 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.119.69.49 Rating: N/A |
entha smooth ga cheppav bro, so you do believe that people who supported Gandhi were fools, err directionless and confused. anyways, my view is different. lets keept it at that. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 3743 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
though everybody respected him....not everybody accepted him as a leader....infact only common simple indian's took him seriously out of thier simple faith ..Gandhi effectively presented and used spiritual symbols of india and became a mahatma in the eyes of confused and directionless people and society...he used that faith in him to blackmail other leaders with his fasts....i am not denying his accomplishments....but his accomplishments cannot obscure his failures | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4049 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.119.69.49 Rating: N/A |
i dont see a problem with that, did he take away anything from azad and other patriots, if some says A is great, why is it making B not great?
im not denying anything anybody. everyone who fought for the country was a patriot, im not saying one is a better patriot than other, if im not wrong you are saying that. again, what do you mean by unfairly, or unjustly eleveated, examples please? leave out the politics of congress party, lets talk about the amount of respect each of these heroes get from the public. have you seen anyone criticizing azad, bose, bhagath singh, i havent. infact, most people here are against communist ideologies and no one is against the pro communist leaders in freedom struggle, HRA started by Sachindra Nath Sanyal, the leader who inspired Azad, bhagath singh was a communist. Bhagath singh, who was a pro-communist fighter, openly talks about sanyal and his religious views in his book "Why I am an Athiest". but people dont complain against them for being pro -communists, they still hold them as heroes, dont they? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6649 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.115.51.3 Rating: N/A |
Kashmir,Security council ide gola kani, parliament kante judiciary system ki higher hand ichindi or desam lo institutional support establich chesinavi chudava? Gandhi pogane nehru dictator laga self diclare chesukuni voting rights mannu mashanm anni chettekinchunte mana situation verela undedi.Entha sepu Nehru failures ye custhe ela..Nehru hayam lo jarigina manchi ni kuda chudu. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4048 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.119.69.49 Rating: N/A |
ok, so you are saying people were foolish to choose Gandhi as their leader, though he was killing them, doesnt that argument sound a little weak to point that Gandhi's tool was not working? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14740 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
takkuva evaru chesaru .. sarigga ne evaluate chestunnam ga Nehru contribution ni .. manaki Kashmir ichadu, China ichadu .. UN lo security council seat pogottadu .. okatenti .. ayina .. nethina pettukuntunnam .. sare adi kooda problem kadu .. Azad/Bhagat nachanidi .. vaalla contributions ni eliminate chese ilanti vaalla vallane fight cheyyalsostondi .. freedom fighters gurinchi kooda !
thx to getafix ... paine example undi choodu .. btw .. in his own terms .. Nehru is just Gandhi replica .. adi kooda consider chesi chaduvuko aa post .. Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14739 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
dont just deny the fact .. just because it helped the argument .. Gandhi is unfairly or unjustly elevated and all his counterparts denounced and thats a fact .. whether you like it or not ! Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 3742 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
nobody would have bothered if gandhi practices what he believed wether it is ahimsa or himsa at personal level....but as a leader on whom his followers had immense faith and commitment he should have behaved more practically than living in the world of his own idiosyncrasies | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6648 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.115.51.3 Rating: |
did not yield considerable good results aa? Just becoz you not agree with past generation policies and leadership, it is not fair to conclude that gandhi's idealogy didnot yield good results. Today we are far better off compared to many other nations who have achieved independence the same time we got..ivala gandhi ni banda bhoothul dobbe freedom prathi okallaki undhi ante adi india ki past generation of leadership chesina melu.. Nehru ganaka selfish politician ayyunte mana desam inko zimbabwe ayyundedi easy ga. Azad,Bhagath singh ki Nehru ki comparision ledu..just becoz nehru neeku nachani idelogy vypu unnadani takkuva chesthe ela? | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4047 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.119.69.49 Rating: |
who does this? i have not seen anyone doing this. May be people do it for political reasons, but i have not seen anyone disrespecting Azad, Patel, Bhagat, they are termed as heroes every where in our country. Infact, I have seen people against Gandhi, but never against these other heroes. have you? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4046 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.119.69.49 Rating: |
the distinction lies in our eyes, not in the actions of those who laid their lives for a country, through violence or non-voilence. the issue here is trying to potray that there is only one way to reach a destination, and one destination is better than, and call ourselves hindus, when our religion is the one that asks us to accept that there are multiple paths to any destiny, to even "God". sadly, we use such terms only when it helps us in an argument. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14738 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
No .. treat Gandhi - as equal as Azad/Patel/Bhagat etc .. no fair army distinguishes between two fallen heroes .. which you are doing .. by elevating Gandhi unfairly and ignoring all others .. Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14737 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
ade cheptunna kada .. the subtle distinction lies in .. hiding under the garb of ahimsa to propel inaction or less action vis-a-vis .. trying harder and yet unfortunately failing ..
exactly .. my complaint is the same .. Gandhi could have practiced his own ahimsa in his backyard .. but who was he to negatively comment/influence on those who are aspiring for the same cause, in a different way??? His refusal to stop the hanging of Bhagat itself is proof enough, even if you want to ignore his rebellion after the democratically elected Netaji as a leader !!! Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4045 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.119.69.49 Rating: |
i wasnt talking about what Gandhi did, I was talking about the the scripture you have qouted, if ahimsa was the param dharma, why would anyone who implements need to face criticism? or do we have to say we are peaceful people, but dont mess with us, we will kill you. similar to today's "religion of peace" the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7611 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Should we also rip the medals of all the soldiers who died in wars without annihilating the threat from our neighbors? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 3741 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
no...krishna and pandavas tried everything possible to avert war before going for it.....where as gandhi was adamant on non-violence under all circumastances | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4044 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.119.69.49 Rating: |
it does not matter right, as long as there is no result, we can term him unrealistic, and the ideology behind it unrealistic, as per your previous argument. or is it our perception as to what is realistic and unrealistic? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14736 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
I am not complaining .. all I am saying is .. Gandhi followed a policy that did not yield any considerable good results .. and so I ask .. rip him of his medals that you all so dearly try to attach him every day .. Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14735 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
atleast .. the effort speaks for itself .. Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4043 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.119.69.49 Rating: |
so does this mean violence is the only way for dharma? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7610 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
A martyr who dies for the cause without success is unrealistic too - both do not find out the effectiveness till after its done Hindsight is 20/20... Gandhi did what he believed in at that time and most of the country's leadership agreed with him...Today's society and circumstance are different - If its not right for this day and age it is for current day folks to change it - not just whine about what Gandhi did or did not do aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4042 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.119.69.49 Rating: N/A |
ayithe violence sesinollu eliminate avvaledhu antav...if the main followed violence gets eliminated he wasnt realistic too, and there by the ideology of himsa? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14733 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
Thats how it should be perceived .. because .. if some body thought, he would practice ahimsa as a tool, which infact jeopardizes his own existence, and at the end, his tool fails and does not yield the desired result, then the man surely was "unrealistic" and hence not always should "ahimsa" be the weapon.
super anthe !
Now, was Bapu, realistic? did Nehru "implement" Gandhi policies well? if he did, do you agree, that directly or indirectly, Gandhi is responsible for todays ills? and lastly, do not try to absolve Gandhi for not picking up/trusting any of Bhagat, Bose, Azad etc people .. to Gandhi .. "his ideology" was more important that freedom of the country .. and so he continued to confide in people like Nehru, who when compared to people like Bose, Patel, Bhagat, Azad is nothing .. the truth is too naked and stark to be ignored ! Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 3740 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: |
gandhi is no doubt a great leader...he used innovative and simple methods to involve common people in freedom movement...there ends his greatness...ikkada gandhi ahimsa gurunchi goppa ga chebutunna vallu....as a political tool how effective was his ahimsa?....and how come it brainwashed only hindus?....under his leadership except for a few leadership was filled with impotent leadership from top to bottom...the same leadership and complacency continued after independence and the result is india is a soft state ridiculed and abused by every tom dick and harry i will give an example for how much gandhi and his followers misrepresented and polluted the public discourse of india....to support their non-violence they used half quotes like "ahimsa paramo dharmaha" from mahabharatha but the full quote is Ahimsa Paramo Dharma Dharma himsa tathaiva cha[3] meaning ....Non-violence is the ultimate dharma. So too is violence in service of Dharma. http://www.hindupedia.com/en/Ahimsa_Paramo_Dharma this is the extent of ditortion | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6647 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.115.51.3 Rating: |
Great Post Jujung Brother! Bapu chose Nehru because he had full confidence that his vision will be implemeted by Nehru.. period. Anthe kani Nehru family baagupadipovali or Azad/PAtel lantivallu padakapovatam ani kaadu. My Salute to Azad! Few People have inspired me a lot and one of them is Azad. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7609 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
yes it does ..it does not say renounce everything and live like a monk either..the philosophy is the same of desireless action Do your job, stay connected to the cosmic consciousness , do not see yourself as separate from cosmos, your sangha and do your part in it is what I understood of Buddhismaa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7608 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Agree with that Desire, discontent and insecurity drive progress in society
Unfortunately,people perceive physical/mental courage differently A physical act of courage is perceived as brave irrespective of the result- the person becomes a martyr to the cause or a saviour.. Agree on the ahimsa part too, but an act of mental courage depends on the result for how it is perceived - if the result is positive then we see it as courage, if it does not get the expected result it is perceived as cowardice aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 86 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 76.98.126.13 Rating: |
The key difference between Buddhism and Hinduism as I understand: Buddhism: Desire is the root cause of our misery and hence we should not have desires and lead a monk-like life.. Hinduism: Our actions should be desireless.. nishkama karma.. not that we shouldn't aspire to something.. it's that we shouldn't be perturbed by the results of our actions as long as it's done in the right spirit.. Buddhism, I am sure will have smthing more to it though.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 85 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 76.98.126.13 Rating: |
I agree with the view that the Buddhist idea that desire being the root cause of all evil (and hence we shouldn't have desires and become a monk...), if followed in letter and spirit, will end the human civilization as we know it.. Having said that, people often misunderstand ahimsa for inaction, cowardly behavior.. It is far more difficult and takes more courage and strength to lead hundreds of people to silently stand and get beaten by oppressors for the sake of independence and justice than encourage people to throw stones or take up arms against an evil oppressing enemy.. Therein lies the inner strength of Gandhi, the tallest leader the world has seen in a long time.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14727 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
could be .. I always had the feeling .. we, Indians, were very very complacent to lose all the edge we had over the world .. Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7607 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
Also there is an interesting theory of optimum fragmentation: Necessity is the mother of invention.Only when there is optimum fragmentation, innovation and military strength are at the right level of necessity... So maybe the fact that it was Akhand Bharat went against itself - strength and lack of threat drives complacency aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7606 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
Think back when it took precedence - after the country was ravaged by war everywhere and people were sick of that way of life, including Ashoka after architecting the last Akhand Bharat - Buddha offered an alternate path of peace and people embraced it in large numbers... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14721 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
very true .. no body denies that Ahimsa was not alien .. but if for some reasons .. it took a precedence, more than any other quality/characteristic .. then it is a valid case to probe the reasons .. thats what the Air Marshal tried to do .. once the Indians were valiant .. invincible .. suddenly .. the society embraced some principles, which were otherwise on the fringe, and we see the ability to defend themselves and then be slaves (administratively only) for 1300 years .. surely a case for introspection .. in my view .. Buddhism made huge inroads prior to the period of Adi Sankara .. all he did is .. he engineered social change in an already fractured mental fabric of the society .. its just a view .. Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7605 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
Let's say that assessment is true, then who would you blame for it ? Buddha or AdiSankaracharya who pretty much reinvented hinduism as we know it today Whose fault is it to include the buddhist principles of ahimsa and peace into hinduism ? Which btw were not foreign to hinduism per se... Point is like Jujung said - lack of personal responsibility - blame someone outside the clique but never oursleves aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14716 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
convenience emundi andi .. not that I hold anything against Buddhism or any Dharmic religions .. is it not a fact that .. only after society embraced "pacifist" ideologies dearly did the integrity of the country suffer? any peep into the history provides us with the same conclusion .. its only an assessment as to what made once invincible Akhand Bharat even to the likes of Alexander the gr8 .. fall into slavery for almost 1300 years under external aggression .. Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7604 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
BTW, let me clarify, I did not mean you in the previous post aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7603 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
LOL Convenience ki taggattu evaiki vallu project chesukuntunnaru kada Hinduism ni aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14712 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
well said .. 60 years nunchi spine less ga behave chestondi country ee lathukor policies valle .. Gandhi and his pacifist policies - weak aipoyina Brits ni visiginchagalavu emo kaani .. country lo unna pedda problems ni emi cheyyalekapoyayi .. migilina Bose/Azad/Patel socialism antha conjecture .. they had greater guts to face adversities than their counterparts .. btw .. read this blog .. not related to azad or Gandhi .. but matter ki relation undi .. budhism turned india into soft state : air marshal http://sifybuzz.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/will-we-inherit-the -dearth/ Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Ipc302 Side Hero Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 5484 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.175.16.238 Rating: |
we do tend to think that azad/bose would be different because their approach to freedom struggle was in contrast to gandhi/nehru principles but may be they would have been socialist/nationaists...60 years ago there wasn't much to choose principle wise...u had socialist, communists and we had the evil capitalists nice point about their governance in post-independent india though...but who knows we might have been rid of atleast the kashmir problem or the chinese problem in kashmir...gandhi was too idealistic for governance , he was better at anti-govt but he and nehru started to believe in the non-violence principle too much and not only that they thought our neighbors would emulate the same principles....WRONGGGGG | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 83 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 76.98.126.13 Rating: |
We lack the concept of personal responsibility.. In any case, the governing ideas of Nehru are not different from those of people like Azad/Bose/Patel to think India would have been different if governed by Patel/Bose instead of Nehru.. All of them are generally socialists, products of their time.. Each one of them would have implemented the same license raj the prime reason for our stagnation and poverty.. The few people that had different ideas are Gandhi, Ambedkar, Rajaji.. Gandhi too ideal/anarchist to govern a real country.. others not that popular.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Ntr_rocks Hero Username: Ntr_rocks Post Number: 11896 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 68.52.68.177 Rating: |
 If you don't like Something, Change it. If you can't Change it, Change the way you think about it. | ||
| Siloan Hero Username: Siloan Post Number: 11513 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.185.83.76 Rating: N/A |
many happy returns of the day 2 AZAD garu Namasthe Sadhaa vatsale maatrubhoomi.... Pulpfiction(12982): jagan is the only ,, repeat only ,, leader that will work for people 24*7*365 .what i am saying .. is .. by denying jagan his position .. the leaders today are allowing people to lose .. pulpfiction(13058):Jagan janam meedha bathikey type kaadhu .. Janam Kosam Bathikey Type .. pulpfiction(13062):chuttooo inni kutralu jarugu thunnaaaa..chirunavvutho premanu panchuthunnaa unnatha samskaari jagan .. pulpfiction(13761):aaa oorlo janam 'inkennaallu ee odarpu' anukoru .. they will think 'jagan vosthunnaadu mana ooriki' anthe .. | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14698 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
Siloan nayake .. ali icon esaavu .. santhi kamukudini edo annanani blood boil seskuni maa 'avesaparudu' azad thed lo kanisam eish kuda seyyaledu .. last ki .. nasty ga RGV gadi blog esaav .. plzz go from this thed .. ujless .. lekapothe red box kurrod ni pilusta ! Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Siloan Hero Username: Siloan Post Number: 11511 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.185.83.76 Rating: N/A |
anand garu one more entertaining zooom from RGV http://rgvzoomin.com/my-reactions-to-reactions-62/ njoy Pulpfiction(12982): jagan is the only ,, repeat only ,, leader that will work for people 24*7*365 .what i am saying .. is .. by denying jagan his position .. the leaders today are allowing people to lose .. pulpfiction(13058):Jagan janam meedha bathikey type kaadhu .. Janam Kosam Bathikey Type .. pulpfiction(13062):chuttooo inni kutralu jarugu thunnaaaa..chirunavvutho premanu panchuthunnaa unnatha samskaari jagan .. pulpfiction(13761):aaa oorlo janam 'inkennaallu ee odarpu' anukoru .. they will think 'jagan vosthunnaadu mana ooriki' anthe .. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7602 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
On his hundredth birthday - for the cenetenary celebrations there was some talk of building a commemorative temple in Jhabua, MP. Not sure if that ever came to fruition. aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Siloan Hero Username: Siloan Post Number: 11510 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.185.83.76 Rating: N/A |
 }Pulpfiction(12982): jagan is the only ,, repeat only ,, leader that will work for people 24*7*365 .what i am saying .. is .. by denying jagan his position .. the leaders today are allowing people to lose .. pulpfiction(13058):Jagan janam meedha bathikey type kaadhu .. Janam Kosam Bathikey Type .. pulpfiction(13062):chuttooo inni kutralu jarugu thunnaaaa..chirunavvutho premanu panchuthunnaa unnatha samskaari jagan .. pulpfiction(13761):aaa oorlo janam 'inkennaallu ee odarpu' anukoru .. they will think 'jagan vosthunnaadu mana ooriki' anthe .. | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4055 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
 Nenu PRP ni support cheyanu, kaani Chiru fan kabatti aayana em chesina support chestanu - oka fan Prajalu JP Indra lo Chiru laga velli schools kosam funds adagali ani korukuntunnaru - same fan | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4053 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Happy Birthday Azad. Ippudu unna politicians jayanthi utsavalu chestamu, ilanti vallani marchipothamu. Sad state. Nenu PRP ni support cheyanu, kaani Chiru fan kabatti aayana em chesina support chestanu - oka fan Prajalu JP Indra lo Chiru laga velli schools kosam funds adagali ani korukuntunnaru - same fan | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14693 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4052 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: |
 Nenu PRP ni support cheyanu, kaani Chiru fan kabatti aayana em chesina support chestanu - oka fan Prajalu JP Indra lo Chiru laga velli schools kosam funds adagali ani korukuntunnaru - same fan | ||
| Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 13141 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.248.59.163 Rating: N/A |
sorry to hijack the thread...that wasn't my intention....I'm out of this thread.. Happy Birthday Azad! CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
| Ipc302 Side Hero Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 5481 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.84.36 Rating: |
nobody forced us to elect nehru again and again or indira...we defeated indira and elcted jan sangh leaders, we defeated rajiv and elected TDP,janata dal , we had BJP rule us...bottom line it's the fault of opposition to not stand up and deliver whenever they had chances...gandhi emanna kalalu kannada ila nehru, indira, rajiv, sanjay, sonia, rahul manalni rule chestharu ani...it's easy to blame one guy and sit without doing anything...time and again we had and will have chances but it's up to us to get rid of these gandhi's | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7601 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
I did not say it was not valid - just felt that it is better to discuss Azad in this thread instead of turning this into another Gandhi bashing thread Anyway , have a good weekend aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14692 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
in hind sight it is .. frankly Gandhi did not have any idea .. Nehru would start his own monarchy in India ! Nehru had full idea Indira was interested in the throne. She joined Congress in 1960, 4 good years before his death. In anycase, Azad thread lo controversies avoid cheddam ! But, Azad lanti vaallaki ravalsina recognition raledu .. and that is share of lime light was grabbed by others is an undeniable fact! Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 13140 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.248.59.163 Rating: N/A |
Anand garu...nenu Ghandhi ni yeemi analedu...my question was...why he selected Nehru, when there were "true patriots" who would have lead India? CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
| Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 13139 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.248.59.163 Rating: N/A |
Anand garu...sorry, if I offended you... but, isn't my question valid? why is that Nehru was forced on us thus started a monarchy in India where we have to live with hopeless leaders like Indira, Rajiv, Sonia and Rahul (and..may be his sons/daughters in future)? CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
| Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 13138 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.248.59.163 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi thatha ki yeduru yevvaroo cheppaledaa...ee poola sokka Nehru ni pakkana koosobettamani? CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7600 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
Is it really necessary to throw dirt at Gandhi and Nehru in this thread ? Better to leave a tribute thread positive - my two cents and apologies if I am stepping over the line. aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14691 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
aa emundi .. peddaayana laagane .. Shanti, sahanam ani sodhi matalu matladi .. venakaale tirigevaadu .. mana casanova kurrod ki emo .. vallu vanchakunda .. round table conference la kosam London elli cuban cigars, cabaret dances ante istam aaye .. but aina kooda "Shanti" agenda lo ki set ayyindi .. and 1947 ki Patel thatha migilina kooda Gandhi thatha .. Nehru ni desam meeda ki vadilesi poyaadu .. mana jeevitalu ittaa edisaayi .. basic ga venakale undi .. karmika nayakudu singaram zindabad anetodu ! Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7599 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
 aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 13137 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.248.59.163 Rating: N/A |
Kamla...Gandhi thatha ni casinova Nehru antee yenduku antha ishtam oo cheppavaa fleez! yentha ishtam lekuntee mana Feroz khan ni Feroz Ghandhi gaa maarusthaadu! CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
| Gandhiguevara Side Hero Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 9148 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 209.11.184.1 Rating: N/A |
Mahathmulni devullani distinguish cheyyadaaniki ilaanti pedha pedha tappulu kaaranam avuthaayi | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14690 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
Ilanti manchi vaallani dooram chesesaaka, migilina puchu vankaya mana Nehru thatha .. unfortunate ga .. mana freedom fight lo ilanti "true patriots" ki support ivvaledu mana desam .. ! Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 13135 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.248.59.163 Rating: N/A |
intha mandi machi vallu vunna kooda mana Gandhi thatha Nehru gaadi nee select jeyyalnaa! CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 4546 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.85 Rating: N/A |
Inquilab Zindabad...my favorite freedom fighter...I salute you. aaanaadu...thodu lekanee...kadali vodini cherukunna godaarallee... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nXjrCaTNI0&feature=fvw | ||
| Senapathy Junior Artist Username: Senapathy Post Number: 712 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 137.131.212.40 Rating: N/A |
My tributes to a great Hero.. Kamalai. Nuvvu full ga inspire ayipo! | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14689 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
Shat shat naman - Chandrasekhar Azad! Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14688 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
Asalu .. if I can go back in time and see .. I would love to see great souls like these .. ye lokaana unnado mahanubhavudu .. papam .. aayana puttina gadda meeda puttina future generations lo .. British vaadu India ki manchi chesaru ani vaadistunnaru ani telisi badha padatadu ! Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14687 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
 fan of Azad ikkada ..Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14686 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
If only we had 100 more Azads .. India would have made the sissies ••••••• their pants and live their saintly lives in private! Sad Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Stig Side Hero Username: Stig Post Number: 5305 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 74.105.123.107 Rating: N/A |
Happy Birthday Azad thata !! -------- Only seven people have looked the Stig straight in the eyes. They are all dead now !! | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14685 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14684 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: |
India needs Chandrasekhar Azads .. not sissies weeping in the dark .. Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14683 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
asalu .. emi generation of Indians bhai .. they loved Bharata Mata more than anyone .. I repeat .. more than any other Indian, who enjoyed fame, power and popularity ..
Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4041 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
kamalai, good one. nenu podhunna vedhamu anukunna thread marachi poya. i get goose bumps thinking about azad, bhagat sing, bismil, rajguru, asfaqulla, sukhdev thapar .. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14682 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 14681 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
Today is the 105th birth anniversary of Chandrasekhar Azad ! One of my most favorite personalities in Indian history.
more tidbits to come .. Ab bhi jiska khoon na khola - khoon nahi wo paani hai, jo desh ke kaam na aye - wo bekaar jawani hay |
