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Maaku ikkada IMAX lo seat numbers isthaaru.
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Jp_rocks:

tickets meeda numbers unnattu last min lo ellam imax theater ki..so had to sit in the first three rows..may be that added to the overall experience



"manam cool candidates kada....ila tension padite elaa?"
- jp_rocks

ee dialog gurtundaa?
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Rasputin:


maa dantlo claps kotaru. m night shaymalan movie trailer edo vaste andaru aaah not again anaru. ala undi shyamalan following.
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Siloan:

sorry nee feelings ni hurt jeshi vunte...


hehe hurt anta ledu bro..niku tamil ochemo so funny name twist anukunna....
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Jp_rocks:

PULE ki PULI ki lion ki loin ki unnantha teda undi.




bedaru...starting lo youtube lo oka english song circulate ayyindi gurthuvundha...Puli title song ani...
PULE PULE ani...baaga vinadam valla adhe notlo naanipoyindhi...

sorry nee feelings ni hurt jeshi vunte...hail Puli
Pulpfiction(12982): jagan is the only ,, repeat only ,, leader that will work for people 24*7*365 .what i am saying .. is .. by denying jagan his position .. the leaders today are allowing people to lose ..
pulpfiction(13058):Jagan janam meedha bathikey type kaadhu .. Janam Kosam Bathikey Type ..
pulpfiction(13062):chuttooo inni kutralu jarugu thunnaaaa..chirunavvutho premanu panchuthunnaa unnatha samskaari jagan ..
pulpfiction(13761):aaa oorlo janam 'inkennaallu ee odarpu' anukoru .. they will think 'jagan vosthunnaadu mana ooriki' anthe ..
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BTW, noone clapped after the movie ended. Don't know if it is a good thing or a bad thing. All I heard was ..."aaahhhh" when Leo's totem wobbled.
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Siloan:

PULE trailer lo PK stunts etta anipinchaayi...vijendravarma gurhtuku vachhada? leka abhimanam ...


PULE ki PULI ki lion ki loin ki unnantha teda undi.....neways trailer lo chopper scene rakta kanneeru madiri ga undi no doubt..but other stunts looked promising.....like jumping off of a building (picha stylish ga chesadu pk)..a typical pk style in-out kick.....
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Jp_rocks:

ekkada badite akkada bomb antinchatam resembled isaka challatam in beedar.....




bedaru ..PULE trailer lo PK stunts etta anipinchaayi...vijendravarma gurhtuku vachhada? leka abhimanam ...
Pulpfiction(12982): jagan is the only ,, repeat only ,, leader that will work for people 24*7*365 .what i am saying .. is .. by denying jagan his position .. the leaders today are allowing people to lose ..
pulpfiction(13058):Jagan janam meedha bathikey type kaadhu .. Janam Kosam Bathikey Type ..
pulpfiction(13062):chuttooo inni kutralu jarugu thunnaaaa..chirunavvutho premanu panchuthunnaa unnatha samskaari jagan ..
pulpfiction(13761):aaa oorlo janam 'inkennaallu ee odarpu' anukoru .. they will think 'jagan vosthunnaadu mana ooriki' anthe ..
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Implanting an idea in someone's head..getting the bug into someone's mind.....nolan should be appreciated for conceiving this very idea..

but the movie was too convoluted to me..the same concept could have been told in a simplistic manner....

of all the dream sequences, the one in the mountains was least enjoyable..deenekka ekkada badite akkada bomb antinchatam resembled isaka challatam in beedar.....

tickets meeda numbers unnattu last min lo ellam imax theater ki..so had to sit in the first three rows..may be that added to the overall experience.....but personally i don't think this is the best movie ever made in any civilization by any margin..
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Stig:

he's in a Limbo, which is a loop, so does remember the kids faces from his memories.




Your analysis on this particular seems to be close to what Nolan is trying to explain in the movie. The Paradox, an endless loop, or the Limbo. From my understanding, it will be either a Limbo or Reality depending up on the mystery of whether or not the Old man in the first and last scene, who says to cobb, "Mr. Cobb, have you come to kill me?" (who is Mr. Cobb himself in his Limbo state) kills himself.
If he kills himself, then he would be absolved from his Limbo state, then from the waking scene from the plane we should understand the young Cobb also woke up. So the climax would be real. On the other hand if the Old Cobb, does not kill himself there is a change that there would be Inception -2.
కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను!
DTS "The digital experience"
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Gotcha:

ee thread lo der baada enti naaku ardam kataledu. everyone appreciates the script effort done by Nolan to give audience a surreal experience.




I think this thread is a discussion not an appraisal...as far as appraisal goes, I already rested my case...stating that it is a good movie...hope that relieves some pressure off your head
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Bushu:

he lays out a series of rules for his world and if you can find holes in him following his own theory, then yes - there's an issue





Good point and I think I pointed out an issue too.....didn't I...his premise is that an idea when planted will make an individual act on it with no other operable parameters...refer to the Jap's lines that I quoted below....

Its not abt his premise..its about how he went about defining his own which beats what he set out for.......U can only appreciate someone's work when you can benchmark it to some scale of your own reason...

I can beat ur argument downringht by the following:

"I draw a huge circle and ask you to comment on it...Your obvious reaction is that a circle it is...If I go ahead and define that the circle defines the concept of an infinitely connected loop....then ur obvious reaction is that it is obvious...when you comment...ur datum is w.r.t again the perceptible logic based in experience...that a circle if indeed....a edgeless loop.....STILL SEEPED in your perception....

But when I say that I have a square with a cut and proclaim that it is also like the circle with only addendum that space outside it is "IN MY PREMISE" an extension of the continuity of the square with a cut....and hence represents the same thing as an edgeless circle...then u have issues...cuz...you have to now differentiate between ur (universal) notions of casualty to that of the author's definition
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ee thread lo der baada enti naaku ardam kataledu. everyone appreciates the script effort done by Nolan to give audience a surreal experience.
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Der_schuler:

.but people painting as if he is the most celebrated film maker to have every walked on earth


Yes - its too soon to make such a statement. He is one of the best, not yet THE best. Ayina movie baaga nachi edo flow lo alaa antarule.
aaanaadu...thodu lekanee...kadali cherukunna godaarallee...
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Der_schuler:

Accessing a subconscious in a dream is downright Freudian in nature and is not in sync with reason of any discernible measure..IMO




a movie is about a premise, an idea and how well the maker sticks to that idea and portrays it to you is what makes the movie good or bad. how logical or illogical the idea is, is irrelevant. there's a reason they call it creative art. it's similar to escher's work that Nolan used in the movie. he lays out a series of rules for his world and if you can find holes in him following his own theory, then yes - there's an issue. if you simply dont agree with his world, tough luck. it's like those people that watched matrix and said, what the heck is this hooking into a matrix world and projecting oneself. can't help that group, can we?
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Cocanada:

planting a thought
or
planting a desire




Watson...the movie starts off defining all that pain and enterprise with the belief that an idea when planted will assume fruition...remember the Jap's words..

"They will become another super power and I want him to stop that process with an idea" to renege from his father's legacy..or the pressure to do so..

The premise of the movie and what u are arguing here are logically inconsistent
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All are dead.
But Tigerman brings them back to life.
And then kills them again, on the spotttt
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Der_schuler:

an idea always assumes fruition


planting a thought
or
planting a desire

what is the difference
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Bushu:

it's about planting it in deep subconscious and hence it's done in a dream within a dream, not in the first level dream. hypnosis is another way to reach that subconscious state of mind and Nolan's approach was a dream within a dream.





I don't follow or line of reason....unfortunately....Hypnosis is distinctly different from the concept mooted or portrayed in the movie...Hypnosis...doesn't plant an idea......Hypnosis creates a feeling about the self...not about the causal existence of anything beyond your head....

for example u can't use hypnosis to tell someone that you will now win the noble prize...that is far beyond the power of hypnosis...It only affords a feeling about the self.....for example, from this moment you will no longer think you are ugly or something to that effect...

Anything that challenges the brain's understanding of causality wont stand...

Accessing a subconscious in a dream is downright Freudian in nature and is not in sync with reason of any discernible measure..IMO
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Cocanada:


The only way to come out of the limbo is
dying




no dying is the only way to go 'into' a limbo. the diff between limbo state and dream state is that you stay longer in a limbo state, you dont know that you are in that world and will not have an incentive to come out; hence Mal wants cobb and herself to get into that state. saito does not do anything to himself because he stays there for too long. when cobb enters that world, if he stayed there too long without getting saito out, he would be lost forever as well. anduke, they consider limbo as a risky thing to get into.
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Cocanada:

It deals only with inception.





Neah...then the movie itself is a failure...remember...the Jap pays them for planting an IDEA coz he knows it will stop the other firm from MONOPOLIZATION....

SO the argument is that......an idea always assumes fruition....
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Ishan:

BUT, we have to give credit to the director for putting so much thought in writing the plot and succeeding in engaging and grabbing the audience attention to the logic of the plot. He created a puzzle to be solved. Thats where Nolan succeeded tremendously. And for that I will call this a very good movie. Its not easy to make these kind of movies.




That I agree...that is exactly why I called it a good movie....but people painting as if he is the most celebrated film maker to have every walked on earth is a joke...Nolan is a versatile maker....what he has is the audacity to challenge the audience's cliched presumptions...

The movie to be often times was like looking at a VanGogh painting....or some post modernist depiction of the being....ITS A PERCEPTION....SO ADDING ANY MORE VALUE TO IT....along the lines of logicality is downright fool hardy.
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dream 1 lo train enduk derail avutady..adi ardam kaale. Can someone explain?
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The baisc premise of panting an idea in a dream to me sounds very hollow




it's about planting it in deep subconscious and hence it's done in a dream within a dream, not in the first level dream. hypnosis is another way to reach that subconscious state of mind and Nolan's approach was a dream within a dream. what's so illogical about that? you dont think you can reach subconscious in Nolan's way. fine. it's just a premise like most other movies and like matrix had that you can tap into a matrix world from the real world. just a premise.
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Der_schuler:

idead crystallize when they are corroborated with experience and the estimation of potential...


The movie is not about materialization of ideas. It deals only with inception.
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signature testing...
An idea is like a Virus.
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Cocanada:




Chus...short ga idead crystallize when they are corroborated with experience and the estimation of potential...
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Ishan:

Also, I thought its pretty silly to even think that two (or even multiple) sub-conscious minds can be interconnected and operate in logical ways (they did not even talk about it in the movie- all they do is to open a briefcase and push a button). That still cracks me up.



Cinematic liberty chala teeskunnadu. There are many more examples where the narration was a bit hurried to skip details
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Der_schuler:


In Inception's case, the premise is not even remotely logically supreme....


I agree that the plot stretched too much on dreams. Dreams in most cases dont make sense - Dreams are collages of incoherent images generated by firing of random synapses. Too much logic was put in to it. Also, I thought its pretty silly to even think that two (or even multiple) sub-conscious minds can be interconnected and operate in logical ways (they did not even talk about it in the movie- all they do is to open a briefcase and push a button). That still cracks me up.

BUT, we have to give credit to the director for putting so much thought in writing the plot and succeeding in engaging and grabbing the audience attention to the logic of the plot. He created a puzzle to be solved. Thats where Nolan succeeded tremendously. And for that I will call this a very good movie. Its not easy to make these kind of movies.
aaanaadu...thodu lekanee...kadali cherukunna godaarallee...
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Der_schuler:

Emayya nee valla cinema nunchuni chuse chance pogottav


ur face cut is looks like a boot cut
adi IMAX. nuvvu bottom corner lo ninchuni chusta annav. bongu kuda kanapadadu akkad ninchi
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Der_schuler:

The idea is formed after the standardization of corroboratory experience either from the indv past or that of similitude of experience and realization amongst similar beings.



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Cocanada:





I prefer to stand and watch for 2 simple reasons.....it makes my system super alert and I dissect every nuance of the frame...and if the imagery fails to capture my emotional self or fails to challenge my intellectual thirst, I can simple walk away with out causing inconvenience to the audience
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Emayya nee valla cinema nunchuni chuse chance pogottav...chus...nenu cinema kurchuni asalu chudalenu...I need to stand......

Nee enkamma...nuvvu nee Old generation ideas...chus...maarandayya
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Dreams afford vicarious lives....that is the reason why when some one dreams of ghosts etc....they never see images that outside their perception or its extended causal self (imagination)....

Has anyone seen a dream where you live in a 5D space...No cuz dreams are bound by the causal bounds of perceptory evidences....

Ideas are a trade off between emotional drives,understanding the scope of pain/enterprise to realize it...which are intricately tied to the realm perceptory experience either from the past or the present....

One never frames an idea with a premise that..."Since I will have a million dollar home, I plan to do the following....."

It will always be...IF I have a million dollar home, I wish to do the following...But that never plants the IDEA of possessing a million dollar home.... that's a perceptory image ...

The idea is formed after the standardization of corroboratory experience either from the indv past or that of similitude of experience and realization amongst similar beings.
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Rasputin:

Sachin, movie choosaaka thinking chesthaavu inko 2days emi jarigindaaa ani. :P
Inkaa choodaledaa, chusss....




bongule.....bothigaaaa brain vaaadatam maanaesaaaa......
basicallly movie ki povataaaniki time illio....weekday evening emanna manchi varsham padithe pothaaaa
naaaa G ki siggunte nenu malli DB ki raaanu..vasthe naa shit nenu thinnattte.....
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Rasputin:

IF everyone can get back from Limbo by just dying or using a totem (as Stig mentioned) then why were tho so concerned about being stuck in a limbo and syncing all their "kicks". Is it because Fischer is the only one without a totem?




There is a difference between Limbo and a Dream. You can come out of the dream

1. When the effect sedative is over
2. Kick or Dying

The only way to come out of the limbo is
dying
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Ishan:




The baisc premise of panting an idea in a dream to me sounds very hollow. Human mind doesn't form ideas in dreams...that was so Freudian in nature....What one envisages in a dream are images....Like people fantasizing making love to someone whom they don't have access to...etc...that is a studied phenomenon....

People often "fantasize" being achievers, possessing things that have been beyond the accessible means etcetera.....people also fictitiously enliven their worst fears coz "THAT WAS AN APRIORI STATE OF THEIR MIND".

So DREAMS reflect an idea than being an originator of one....what dreams afford is imagery....that imagery when subjected to experiences shapes into an idea....

So there is a causal disconnect in the movie....I can understand how some people are forced to call it a great experience etc...either out of the pressure to be a societal acceptance...(These are how canards are spread) and just out of the mental image that anything that beats my imagination should be good...

In Inception's case, the premise is not even remotely logically supreme....
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Humpty_dumpty:

Cobb character does something similar, he talks the lead char into believing what he says and finally the lead char realizes that this guy has other intentions.
He says something like people want to be shown what they dont want etc...


Exactly my thoughts - the punch line of cobb in following is "you take away and show them what they had" - his concept was that we dont realize how we take things for granted. Thats why he steals memories i.e. past pictures, gifts etc. If this cobb is an extrapolation of that cobb, I really admire Nolan.
aaanaadu...thodu lekanee...kadali cherukunna godaarallee...
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Rasputin:

IF everyone can get back from Limbo by just dying or using a totem (as Stig mentioned) then why were tho so concerned about being stuck in a limbo and syncing all their "kicks". Is it because Fischer is the only one without a totem?


My understanding is that totem tells you whether you are in a dream or in reality, it wont get you back to the reality. One can get back to reality, even from limbo when he realizes that he is in a dream and not in reality. THats why cobb goes in to level 4 to tell saito that he is in a dream and comeback. Thats when saito shoots (I think, if it yes, I still dont understand why Nolan didnot show the shooting part though).
aaanaadu...thodu lekanee...kadali cherukunna godaarallee...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nXjrCaTNI0&feature=fvw
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Trivia bit I picked up on the net

Dom Cobb is the name of the character in one of Nolan's works - Following ( netflix lo undhi )
In that film, Cobb character does something similar, he talks the lead char into believing what he says and finally the lead char realizes that this guy has other intentions.
He says something like people want to be shown what they dont want etc...

hats off to Nolan for his dedication
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IF everyone can get back from Limbo by just dying or using a totem (as Stig mentioned) then why were tho so concerned about being stuck in a limbo and syncing all their "kicks". Is it because Fischer is the only one without a totem?
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chaala rojula tharvatha cinema ki poyi choosa....

full worth.....

konni parts ardham kaledhu....but ee thread lo ardham ayyayi.....

Direction antey....respect perigindhi....
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Sachin:

intha thinking sesi movie soodaaalaaaa.....




nadi same question..
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ee thrd ki 'SPOILERS' ani enduku title.. chusina vallake artham avadam
ledu antunnaru.. inka chudani vallaki .. emi artham avutundi mee
analysis and basha
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Coke baadha bharinchaleka chusanu cinema...imax lo....bhayam puttinchadu ayana....20 miles drive cheyinchi imax lo chupinchadu

idhigo cinemani chala serious ga choodu....extras cheyyaku...ani okate chevilo oodara kottadhu




Ninchuni cinema chusestaa antaavu Idemanna mee Andhrawala anukunnava?
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Jalsa:

how did Cobb get back to level 1 from limbo?


Sedo the old man picks up his gun while Cobb sits across the table

It implies he killed Cobb.
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Sachin, movie choosaaka thinking chesthaavu inko 2days emi jarigindaaa ani. :P

Inkaa choodaledaa, chusss....
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deenemma intha thinking sesi movie soodaaalaaaa.....
naaaa G ki siggunte nenu malli DB ki raaanu..vasthe naa shit nenu thinnattte.....
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Der, ikkada Imax kosam 144 miles drive chesaa. Not worth IMAX anipinchindi. But same to same itlaney, wife ki cheppaa, do not make any comments or disturb me while I am watching the movie ani.
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I get this dream, like driving my current car in India to my Engg college.

The gravity "Kick" concpet was interesting. Enno saarlu kalalo padipothunnatlu vasthey melakuva vachesindi.
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Humpty_dumpty:

Mav, current object in past time antay is it memories?




U get a dream that you are using ur current car in india say 10 yrs ago
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Getafix, thanks bro
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Mav, current object in past time antay is it memories?

thanks to Nolan , I now think all my deja vu dreams are Inceptions ..kiki
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H_D bro,

first 2 numbers tom hardy isthadu fischer ki.. rest numbers are mouthed by fischer at random.
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naaku gurthu unnantha waraku the sequence of numbers is rattled off by Fischer at random. But then he in subsequent levels, he believes that it is the actual unlock sequence to the safe( the idea of safe is also planted by his trusty Godfather and his subconscious does not fight back)
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in real life scenarios, in a dream if we experience a current object in past time, is that experiencing dream levels?
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Humpty_dumpty:

( since Arthur ties them up all together)




yes.. arthur ties them up kada..Nolan gaadi reaearch team ki nijanga dandesi dannam ettukovali..
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@Getafix

I think the term gavity is onlt descriptive or relative rather than true meaning.
You have to be stable in Level1 for level2 dream to be stable.
When they are falling off the bridge, they are not stable thus the lack of gravity or "instability" in the hotel.
But they are stable relatively to each other( since Arthur ties them up all together) - so I think their level3 dream remains unaffected.
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Inkoti arhtam kaanidi..

Inception ante - genesis or beginning right.. but the numbers to fischer are fed by impersonator(tom hardy) acting as his uncle/god father.. movie beginning lo cheptharu.. our subconscious will realise the information fed by external sources ani...mari fischer ki a numbers cheppe idea kuda external source nunche kada?
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Stig:





Annai nee hype takkinchi...cinemalo..nuvvana mind shattering concept okkati cheppava...its a good film...anthegani adedho classic aithe mathram anipinchaledhu..

Coke baadha bharinchaleka chusanu cinema...imax lo....bhayam puttinchadu ayana....20 miles drive cheyinchi imax lo chupinchadu

idhigo cinemani chala serious ga choodu....extras cheyyaku...ani okate chevilo oodara kottadhu
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Rasp,

Leo goes to saito to do a job foi cobol engineering. Cinema lo depth ga seppadu aa job ento ..may be Nolan wanted to us to assume Leo is working as conman for cobol engineering and was trying to extract some documents from Saito.

Naku artham kaanidi inkoti,

Why does there is no gravity in Arthur's dream where as there is gravity in Fischer's dream? I understand that Arthur cuttig off elevator cables and exploding it to give a kick but didnt understood why there was no gravity in level 2 whereas levels higher up had gravity..
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Rasputin:

What is this story? So Leo gets caught and then Sato blackmails him to do the next job with Fischer?




its kind of interview/audition by sato
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Naaku movie starting artham kaaaledu. What was Sato's issue (not the old old Sato, but relatively young Sato), when Leo gets caught trying to steal. What is this story? So Leo gets caught and then Sato blackmails him to do the next job with Fischer?

Kaani, I strongly believe that there is something with the scene where Leo tries to spin his totem, but could not do so. There must be a reason for that scene.
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Reality ... Dream it doesn't matter ... Final scene lo totem spin chesaka ... leo doesn;t look back to chk if its a dream or reality .... he got what he wanted ... being with his kids ... Dream ayina Cobb wouldn't have cared !!


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Kids did not age. Wearing same dress, same location on the lawn....definitely a dream. The wobble in the end was to just confuse us.

Somewhere in the middle of the movie, I forgot where, Leo tries to spin it for reality check, but fumbles it and it does not even start to spin. If it would have spun, my be he would have realized that it was a dream.

I think this is the "key" scene in the movie. Why would Nolan create a scene, where Leo tries to spin it, but could not and hence could not figure out whether it is a dream or reality?
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Guru:

1st dream lo train derail ayi road midaki ravadam Dicaprio's projection from limbo where his wife gets killed? is that right???




They both get killed under train. they use death to get out of limbo !!


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Saw Inception. It is a nice movie. Understood most of it. I am going to watch Aarambham (Telugu version) soon about 18 hours ago

@creativeitch I am watching Inception tonoght. Ardham aithe cinema ela vundo cheptanu 1 day ago
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1st dream lo train derail ayi road midaki ravadam Dicaprio's projection from limbo where his wife gets killed? is that right???
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Jalsa:

anni characters ki theleedha dream ani? then why did he plan a kick for himself too?




Anni Chars ki telusu dream ani .... they use kicks to get out .

Cobb missed the last kick too. (when the van hits the water ... so drowns and dies... so ends up in limbo. Uses totem to getout !!


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Jalsa:

So dream ani realize ayithe chaala, real state ki raavadaniki? anni characters ki theleedha dream ani? then why did he plan a kick for himself too?


he is in limbo not dream(rentiki diff enti ani adakku)...kick is to wake up from dream...
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Rebel:

Cobb uses Totem (which is still spinning, realizies that it is satos dream )and wakes up in real state.



hmm ok. So dream ani realize ayithe chaala, real state ki raavadaniki? anni characters ki theleedha dream ani? then why did he plan a kick for himself too?
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Jalsa:

how did Cobb get back to level 1 from limbo?


check stig's 1st post:
Cobb convinces Sato that he is living in dream, so Sato kills himself and endsup in reality remembering who he is ... so he makes the call and clears Cobbs charges blah blah ..
Cobb uses Totem (which is still spinning, realizies that it is satos dream )and wakes up in real state.
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Jalsa:

how did Cobb get back to level 1 from limbo?



bump. i must have missed something here
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cinema can be trimmed by half an hour. first scene anni trim cheyavachu dream sequence kosam elaboration first act anta. anta undakarledu he should have trim it.
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Ishan:

Madhyalo drag chesinattu anipichindi.



same feeling :-)
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how did Cobb get back to level 1 from limbo?
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naaku single esina vaadevado level 5 dream lo stuck ayyi perennial limbo la undi infinite loop lo thiruguthoo undu gaaka!
aaanaadu...thodu lekanee...kadali cherukunna godaarallee...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nXjrCaTNI0&feature=fvw
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Trueleader:

DB lo woodpecker uncle echina hype ki baliayipoyanu evala


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btw, stig - great post
aaanaadu...thodu lekanee...kadali cherukunna godaarallee...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nXjrCaTNI0&feature=fvw
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Just coming from the movie - First half an hour and last half an hour are nail biting.

The gravity less fights were top class.

Madhyalo drag chesinattu anipichindi.

BGM is perhaps one of the best in recent times. Hans never disappoints.

Visuals are pretty striking at times.

Dicprio's performance is really good. I used to not like his acting during titanic times. But he has grown as an actor pretty rapidly, so much so that I am a fan of him now.

Of course the most striking aspect of the movie is how engaging the plot was. Very glad that hollywood has director like Nolan. Wifey was pretty against going to this movie, but at the end of it she was the one who analyzed the plot lot more than I did.

Funny thing was suddenly power went off in the theater when the van in first dream hits the water - every one in the theater was like 'is this a dream or part of the movie plot'

On the whole, I would not say its an extraordinary movie, but a very good one. If I have to pick between this and Dark Knight (to compare Nolan's performances), I would definitely pick DK.

And yes, I think he was in reality in the last scene.
aaanaadu...thodu lekanee...kadali cherukunna godaarallee...
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Woodpecker:

naak movie ardham ayyindi kaani mee analysis ardham avvatla



Rebel:

plz dont say its caine's dream...movie meeda virakti vastundi apudu naku




Anduke analyse cheyyakunda - first impression ki fix ayipovatam best :-)Nolan left it ambiguous enough with the spinning top...:-)
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BTDB lo ee Db lo thread soosi ,,,IMAX lo book sesa...11 PM show...repu septha..,,,naa feelings
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Inception movie eppudey chusa.......naku asala nachaledhu....

DB lo woodpecker uncle echina hype ki baliayipoyanu evala :-(
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Rebel:

plz dont say its caine's dream...movie


gonthui chinchukuni arusthunna nen kooda, climax is real and not dream, if it is a dream where is the clue

ther is no clue
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I think climax is real...he cheks tht by spinning the totem...
regarding kid's age: when his wife dies he also appears same like he did in colimax...so exile period might be 1 or 2 yrs...this is not shown but based on leo's apperance exile period not definitely for ages...thats why kids appear same...
plz dont say its caine's dream...movie meeda virakti vastundi apudu naku
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Anand_n:



Maverick:


naak movie ardham ayyindi kaani mee analysis ardham avvatla
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Woodpecker:

kids faces are never seen unless they are real as per the movie right?




There's a line in the movie after the first time Ariadne encounters Mal that talks about memories and regrets.So my take...

Its not like he has not seen his kids faces at all, right? Its only his regret that he left without seeing his kids faces one last time that blocks his memory of the faces...

His ability to see the faces at the end could mean either that it is reality or that the mental block of regret has been cleared..:-)

But everything being Caine's dream , immediately after Cobb left is plausible too - then the kids would be at the same age and the same clothes :-)

Analysis aside - the message in the ending and thru Mal was perfect to me:-) So you guys analyse away :-)
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Woodpecker:

where is the clue?




just based on the totem spinning at the end..must and shud avvalani kaadu..but it could be a possibility
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Maverick:

how can u say that? reality is only when referenced with a layer below.


then where is the superset layer to the ending dream (I think it's real) layer?

I dont think there is one unless director leaves a clue, where is the clue?
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Woodpecker:

kids faces are never seen unless they are real as per the movie right?



how can u say that? reality is only when referenced with a layer below.
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Anand_n:



Maverick:




kids faces are never seen unless they are real as per the movie right?

leo tries to see kids faces in dreams (emotions changes) and everyone around start looking at him, though he knows it is a dream he should not have it seen by others, so he can never see the faces

only leo's wife has those memories of dreams in real life and during their anniversary she wants to go back to that dream and she thinks by killing herself in real life (which she thinks is a dream) would have her get back to the dream which she built

inception concept lo memories undakoodadu kada

only end lo kids face susthad and that thing revolves still
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it could be claine's dream(coobs fil) as he expects his sil to take care of his kids and dreams the entire concept of inception, saito coming to the rescue and helping leo get past the immigration and all that..
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Woodpecker:


how come they will be aged?




As anand said, he has been longing to see his kids. 10hr ki longing enti? anduke there is no reality anedi
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Woodpecker:

so when they come back out of all dreams they reach LA which is 10 hours

how come they will be aged?




But he has been in exile for a long time before he boards the plane..hence the desperation to get back home and willilingness to take on the job , right ?
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Maverick:

but they are not aged when leo returns back




dream 1 - plane 10 hours to LA

dream 2 - van - some 16 days (correct ga gurthu ledu)

dream 3 - hotel - >>> dream 2

dream 4 - snow mountains - some months

dream 5 - final water - some years

so when they come back out of all dreams they reach LA which is 10 hours

how come they will be aged?

so final scene not a dream he meets his kids

correct kaada?
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so will the sequel be called "conception"?


when you dream and and actually create/spawn?
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Woodpecker:

final scene is not a dream : leo sees his kids faces it;s real

idemi comedy




but they are not aged when leo returns back
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What if there are levels higher that the one totem is created ? Isn't that the premise of our philosophy that this world (our current reality) itself is an illusion




exactly. i felt the same. L0
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Woodpecker:

final scene is not a dream : leo sees his kids faces it;s real




How can you say ? That is the question :-)

A totem created at a level is real/effective from that level down ...May be the memories at each level down are a subset of the higher level...

What if there are levels higher that the one totem is created ? Isn't that the premise of our philosophy that this world (our current reality) itself is an illusion :-)

Perfect ending :-)

But I agree with Bushu - that the elegance of inception was the beauty of the movie...
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final scene is not a dream : leo sees his kids faces it;s real

idemi comedy
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Getafix bro.. good question. I now get what you are asking. my take: It might just be that, the story telling, which is the main motive of a movie might get lost if they start hopping around without it being progressive.
when i remember a dream (after i wake up) i always remember an event or a sequence of events or random events but that could just be me. maybe we should have a thread asking people to discuss what kind of dreams they have.. etc.,
Maverick.. even now.. how many people can build a script like nolan.. i dont think it is too late to appreciate nolan's talents.
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kimura brother,

I mean the progression of events happening between the characters is futuristic.. Leo doing a job for cobol engineering and ken watanabe offering him a job..leo finding an architect and so on..

Normal ga oka dream teesukunte ..intha sequential ga undavu..dreams are random but in the movie each succeeding event is determined by preceding event. Thats why i thought all the chars and all the creations are by leo's subconscious mind .. he designs the stage through architect and he plays himself and other chars thinking it as a dream..
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dream time faster than realtime ani oka month back db lo question adiga..not sure if anyone discussed on that..
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Kimura:

i think this story has been living in his mind for years and when he got the right kind of studio and finance he made it with everything he had..




i read somewheere that he has this script in mind for over 10 yrs..man if someone thought this 10yrs ago,i would def give him a nobel prize in movie making..
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Getafix babai.. how did you know that everything they are dreaming about is in the future?
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Nado basic question...

Movie lo they dream about future all the time and amazing thing is every dream of every character is crystal clear and they occur in a perfect sequence as if they are happening for real. I thought only leo's dreams involving cotillard are dreams as they are based on memories ..migitha characters and migitha sequences ki explaination matram na degira ledhu.. may be Leo is schizohrenic and he role played all other characters based out of his sub conscious mind..Shutter Island story ni konchem stretch chesthe ee alochana ochindi.. thats why at the end the totem wobbles..
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Maverick : I was thinking the same.. about how he managed to bring everything to screen.
If you look at nolan's filmography.. you will see how he went progressively from memento to insomnia to prestige to darkknight to inception.. every one of those movies deal with psychology and human mind etc., i think this story has been living in his mind for years and when he got the right kind of studio and finance he made it with everything he had..
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Kimura:

I dont disagree that the whole movie was someone's dream based on how the top keeps spinning at the end. It is also possible that since it is someone's dream they chose inception instead of crime. Also the fact that the kids dont age even when they come back confirms the same thing ie., everything we see on screen is a dream.



Stig:


But why do you think its Some X's or Cobb's fathers dream ??




for the above reason.

but what a movie it is..while watching the movie, i felt how could nolan perceive such thoughts and put them into execution..
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I dont disagree that the whole movie was someone's dream based on how the top keeps spinning at the end. It is also possible that since it is someone's dream they chose inception instead of crime. Also the fact that the kids dont age even when they come back confirms the same thing ie., everything we see on screen is a dream.
I cant remember if the top was spun after the scene in yousuf's basement.
Nevertheless.. man.. i saw the 1030pm show lastnight.. i cant stop thinking about how amazingly well done the whole movie was.. someone here (i think platypus)wrote about 10 things you will feel after watching this movie.. and i absolutely agree with every one of them.
Marion cotillard is just beautiful.. perfection in every sense..
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Kimura:

alking about how it is all sr.cobb's dream




just one of those possibilities based on the incomplete ending. and the fact that leo's kids dont seem to have aged. another reason I can think of is, why go through all the pain just to implant an idea; with the senior fischer gone, couldnt they simply take out berenger character and the jr. fischer? besides, saito delivering(immigration help) on dom's success is kinda dicey. what's the guarantee that fischer's mind wont change and he will simply relegate the 'implanted' idea as a bad idea once he gets to his fortune again. it happens to all of us where we want to choose the more difficult path but once reality hits, we just go back to the easier route.
one theory I read on imdb was that the reality ended in mumbasa when it was the last time we saw Dom spinning the totem. everything after that is his dream in yousef's basement. :D
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I was amazed.. i am going to watch it again this week...
Some one here was talking about how it is all sr.cobb's dream. I dont understand how?
wicked ending though.. similar to vanilla sky's ending
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Humpty_dumpty:



Maverick:




Yes, depends on how you interpret the final scene, Totem padindi ante reality loki vachhadu, ledu ante he's in a limbo ...

But why do you think its Some X's or Cobb's fathers dream ??

Bushu:

the really neat part was the 'inception' itself.




Yes, naaku idi clear gaa explain chesinattu anipinchindi anduke raayaledu....

Basically there was no Locker all along !!
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Rajanala:

movie motham nidrapoya late night show ki poyi ninna.







Ashton:

I found this movie boring.





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***** SPOILER IN THE POST BELOW****************

sorry about that.
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probably the least challenging of all Nolan's movies. I still prefer memento and prestige, but have to give it to him about his abilities. earlier, he showed complicated concepts in complicated fashion(memento), simple concepts complicated(prestige and the batman movies) and now he takes a difficult concpet and really dumbs it down so the regular people can also get it. or maybe the studio was willing to finance the big budget movie only if he does something like this. he is now the purveyor of all things that an auteur can do. he is the GOD of cinema, today.

stig,

more than the levels, the really neat part was the 'inception' itself. beautiful how they plant the number 528491 in fischer's brain and lead him all the way to the finale and change his mind. I think for a lot of us trying to decipher the whole levels' maze, we lose sight of this simple idea he managed so well.
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Eluri_kurradu:

CR lo imax unda?
Akkadiki pota sudataniki


Wehrenberg lo chusa..imax ledu
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CR lo imax unda?
Akkadiki pota sudataniki
Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu
Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu ..

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I found this movie boring. It was kind of a cross between "The Number 23" and "The Thirteenth Floor". At times, the score was so loud you couldn't even make out what was being said.
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movie motham nidrapoya late night show ki poyi ninna. naku ardamayyindi okkate, movie ni inkosari soodalani.
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Agree with mav
I think it's Michael Caine
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the entire movie is L0 of some X in which everyone including cobb is a projection
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Venkateswarlu:

Stig: Do you remember why aridane/cobb go to Dream 4? In D4, do we see fisher jr?




.

D3 is Fisher's dreAM, fisher is shot by mal (who is Cobbs projection), fiher dies/coma goes into D4, d4 is the dream of cobb, so Cobb and adriane assume Fisher is captured by Mal, b'coz mal wants cobb to follow her path ... (she tries to spoil his mission even in the first job).... they find fisher ... adriane throws off fisher from building show he dies and wakes up using defibrillator (because he's dead/in coma in d3) as kick ... adraine falls and wakes up in d3.
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Stig: Do you remember why aridane/cobb go to Dream 4? In D4, do we see fisher jr?
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Stig:

Sequel emanna plan undemo


ilaanti movies ki sequels vadhu....viewers imagination ki vadileyyali...commercial gaa emo kaani THEY will talk about it for the next two years
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Padindane anuktunna ... kinda ade cheppa gaa ...

Sequel emanna plan undemo .... anduke open ending anipinchindi !!
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Intaki chivarlo bongaram padindhaa padaledho takkuna cheppu :D
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Venkateswarlu:

How does cobb come back?



Stig:

Cobb uses Totem (which is still spinning, realizies that it is satos dream )and wakes up in real sate.




Limbo nunchi bayataku ravadaniki death okkate kaadu, valladegga object kooda use cheyochhu, Cobb uses totem adi continous ga tirugutaa untadi so he realizes this is Satio's Limbo so wakes up !!
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Yeah, tappu raasa ,kaani kinda 6 levels unayi annanu, koncham doubt undi dream 4/limbo ani raasa !!
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Good analysis. Malle ochhi disco sethhaa.. deenemma work ekkuvaipoindi.. chuss..

Cobb and Sato limbo perfett gaa seppinav but if Cobb and Sato are in limbo and sato kills himself and comes back.. How does cobb come back? Even in limbo, if he kills himself, he cannot become alive in 'van' deep in the water as the 'Kick' is no more usefull.. brb..
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enkatesparlu dude

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Stig:

Limbo -- World created by Cobb,Mal, Ficsher & Satio.


That is Dream 4 anukuntaa.. as Aridane and Cobb dream to go to Mal to bring back Sato or something.. I forgot.. but for some reason aridane and cobb go to Dream 4 and its definitely not limbo.. And, you cannot go to limbo unless your character die in a dream.
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Inception Q & A


good one
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Ade kada nenu cheppindi , its an Endless Dream world.

U never realize that ur in dream until /you been given a kick or death. !
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Stig:

because we can notice that wobbles a litte so I thought it was slowing down.


ejjactly. nenu ade anukunna. Nolan kurrod manchodu. maree antha torture pette type kaadu

It wobbled. And he sees his kids. Matter close. thats all.
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Ade kada nenu cheppindi , its an Endless Dream world.

U never realize that ur in dream until you been given a kick or u die. !!
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chass typing so chaala words miss ayinai ... ogeyyandi !!
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Stig:

Limbo -- World created by Cobb,Mal, Ficsher & Satio.


I doubt this

I thought Limbo is when you fail to identify the real world
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ee data anthaa collect jesi,analyse jesi ...oka avagahana ki vachaaka...malli rendo sari cinema chusthaa....appudaina ardham aitademo....
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Veeche gaali andari kosam. Vana megham dachukodhu tana kosam
Surya kanthi andari kosam. Chandra jyothi eragadu ye swaartham
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Inception a film for which the medium was invented, ilaanti movies vachheve chala takkuva, so content wise comparison ante Eternal Sunshine of Spotless mind, Tron, Ghost in the shell, Matrix tho compare cheyochhu.

Inception plot lo maatram very much closer to The Thirteenth floor !!
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Inception Q & A

Time Break up : 5 Min in Real World = 1 Hr (60m) in Dream , so

1m(r) = 12 m (d), ;
10s(r) = 120s (d)/ 2m(d)

Movie lo we have 6 levels,
Relaity - Plane
Dream 1 (yusuf's dream ) - Van
Dream 2 (Aurthurs' Dream) - Hotel
Dream 3 (Fischer's Dream who is subconsciously using his uncles mind ) --Hospital
Limbo -- World created by Cobb,Mal, Ficsher & Satio.


Real world time line = 10hrs = 600m
Dream 1 (yusuf's dream ) = 7200 m = 5 days
Dream 2 (Aurthurs' Dream) = 86400m = 60 Days
Dream 3 = 720 Days

Physical State:

Reality lo unna physical state is represented in the dream.
So, Reality lo there are on the plane STABLE ,so in the van.
Dream 1 is reality state to Dream 2
So their physical state in the Van represents their state in the Hotel.
D2 is reality to D3
So state in Hotel represents their state in Hospital
So when Van falling from the bridge, there is no gravitational force in D1, free fall
So is in the Hotel. (ante they are still STABLE)
They are stable in Hotel (Dream2) so their physical state is unaltered in Dream 3- Hospital

Kicks :

Dream4/Limbo to Dream 3
Aridane, ficher jump off the building to wake up in level 3 and join Eade.
Dream 3 to Dream 2
Hopspital explosions tho the watch tower like free fall used as kick. (there is gravity in this state)
Dream 2 to Dream 1
They are in Elevator with no gravity they are joined by Aurthur, and explosions to free fall which is kick.
Dream 1 to Reality
Van hits water, which is used as kick.

They use the song to synchronize the time.


Death - Limbo:

Sato dies in dream 3 and goes into Limbo, think that is reality ages.
Ficher goes into Coma like state and ends up in Cobbs dream scape kidnaped by Mal
Ardiane, Cobb enter Cobb dream/Limbo, Ficher jumps off first ... enters dream 3 talks to his dying father (THE INCEPTION), Ardiane joins him Dream3 few sec later.
Now, every one is awake in Dream 1 except Cobb, Sato
Cobb Dies in Dream 1 (van hits water Cobb drowns) and ends up in Satos dreamscape, By the time
Sato is Old,
Cobb convinces Sato that he is living in dream, so Sato kills himself and endsup in reality remembering who he is ... so he makes the call and clears Cobbs charges blah blah ..
Cobb uses Totem (which is still spinning, realizies that it is satos dream )and wakes up in real sate.


Final Scene:

I thought it was reality, because we can notice that wobbles a litte so I thought it was slowing down.
If it was a Dream , how can cobb seeing his kids faces can be justified ??
Well, remember the first time when ardiane enter cobbs mind in the workshop ?? he shows all his memories from his wife, each being confined to a particular scene/ time.
So if the final scene is a dream, which means he's still sleeping , so he's been dreaming since a very long time, which means he's in a Limbo, which is a loop, so does remember the kids faces from his memories.

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