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Jalsa
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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 09:56 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Der thammudu, emi anukoku. nuvvu criticize chesta untey, b.tech lo maa professor gurtu vasthunnaru.

aayana teach chesedhi Data Communications. Ye book lo nunchi cheppina "this book has been written by a third grade author" ane vaaaru. Sir, meeru oka book raayandi, manamu follow ayipodhaamu antey aa daanidhemundhi vayaa ane vaaaru.

I really don't know how good are these authors or how much/what they know about what you are talking, kaani just gurthochindhi :-)
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http://books.google.com/books?id=0R2LkE3N7-oC&printsec=front cover&dq=fractal+geometry&source=bl&ots=07q8DmE9QV&sig=Rfe1f d2ysFqvEIgvaQdlZHbF5jY&hl=en&ei=oiQ1TKDhBMLflgfNgLHVBw&sa=X& oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=12&ved=0CEkQ6AEwCw#v=onepage &q&f=false

Der pandaga sesuko.........its amazing.....
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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 08:38 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

bourgeois has multiple connotations and in the context cited meant:

That which craves for a conventional and materialistic output in each of its enterprise.

It would have helped, had I cited the context. But it becomes onerous to do so for every word. Words inter alia assume meaning based on the readership and hence are subjective to its scope.
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Jalsa
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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 07:33 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Sraa9:

conventional



kaadhu anukunta
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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 06:40 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i think here in this context bourgeois means conventional.
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Jalsa:

meeru ee padhamu article lo choosi vesaara leka just ilaaney veyali anipinchi vaadaaraa?


same thought nakkoda vachindhi...bourgeois ante some fuedal related kadhaa...mana vallu teluglu naxalite padham boorjuva chesaru deenni...how does it fit to the topic?
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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 01:47 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Jalsa:




ye article??

this is my personal review
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Jalsa
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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 01:12 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The bourgeois view
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der gaaru, meeru ee padhamu article lo choosi vesaara leka just ilaaney veyali anipinchi vaadaaraa?
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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 10:55 am:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Math is a model to fit the dynamics of nature as perceived by our mind....it's not seperate from mind....however there is no guarantee that nature always fit into our model....take fundamental space constants like pi...though it strongly goes against our measurements and intuition ..can we think of space with a different value of pi?....imagine our mind sees a different space....Does a different value for pi or a different pythogress theorm change anything we feel about space?
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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 08:49 am:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Review baavundi .... basic ga authors banda bootulu raasarani ... meeru vallani shapanardhalu pettarani ardham ayyindi ... good :D !!




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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 08:26 am:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This bourgeois attempt to force democratization of probably the only true democratic human pursuits is a well nigh ridiculous exposition of ones cranium malfunction.

For once, there is one thing that hurts these authors. The fact that people are made different. There is no equality amongst people. Some are born intelligent and some not for whatever reasons appropriate and that is an irrefutable fact if nature.

Leave mathematics alone from the clutches of mediocrity that has so plagued the senses of pseudo rationalists.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 08:19 am:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Its is obvious that some one untrained in the intricacies of higher math can only view pursuit of mathematics as some form of elitist adventure...the authors conveniently escape the questions of why certain people can count and add fast w.r.t others with equivalent training in mathematics...there is no elitism there...

also the authors are so pathetically equipped to talk about the language of expression. Like linguistic developments since the birth of language, mathematics and the language of its expression underwent its own organic course and evolved its own paradigm.

It can only be overlooked by naive people, the fact that mathematics after all is the science of compacting an elaborate natural language into a crisp symbolism. Such condensation has been the hall mark of superior growth of any language where minimal symbolic sets express the larger corpus of knowledge.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 08:11 am:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

this is exactly where they tend to bite more than they can chew....it gets way out of their league........they say:

"This Romanticism of mathematics has lead to a greater social harm by making it a very intimidating pursuit for a lot of people seeped in non intuitionist and cryptic code of communication. This preclusion of the majority has made it elitist and has given it the aura of belonging to the most smartly. Reading any piece of relevant but modern mathematics is an ordeal for the common man who is mathematically trained to pare through the easier parts of a proof, which we call, intuition"
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The obvious counter examples to such a notion is the fundamental question of what explains the relativist notions when nature follows a pattern ( regardless of whether one chooses it to call harmonic, periodic or mathematical)...nature follows a periodic ebb and tide of tidal forces with all things being the same, extrinsic to human perception of what the pattern is and what it is ought to be!!!!!!!!


Then the authors move to describing the prevalent phenomenon in mathematics...and call it romantic mathematics....

per N&L, romantic mathematics predominantly is as follows:

1.) The idea that mathematics is the language of nature.
2.) That there is a greater overriding platonic beauty about mathematics that is free from the human mind. That is math exists extrinsic to our pursuit of it.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 08:00 am:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A review of "Where mathematics comes from" by George Lakoff and Rafael Nunez

What happens when post modern relativists wage an ugly attempt to explain Mathematics and its origins via as fragile a construct as metaphors and relativism. pure mayhem and near blasphemy.

per nunez and lakoff (N&L from now on),mathematics has its origins purely in the mind and hence has no bearing that establishes the oft regarded view of absolutism of mathematics.

The first chapter starts with the depiction of the results of a cognitive experiment where in babies observe changes in their field of view and equates how infants increase and decrease their attention span based on addition and subtraction of field objects. The author cite this as a verification of the fact that even infants are born with a natural ability to count on the back of physical faculties like sight and hearing.

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