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Vjavasi:

ee GEB ante emiti mastaru?




Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid -- by Douglas Hofstadter (AI researcher turned Professor of cognitive science,stanford)
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CBN ni adigite telustadi
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Nisarga:

GEB is a good attempt to explain how self could possibly arise from inanimate






ee GEB ante emiti mastaru?
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Kish




enduku ala voostannav? emannad?
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Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu
Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu ..

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Vjavasi:

anni internal ga electric signals ee antaaru....then how is visual feeling different from hearing?...if the difference is just because of different centres of brain....who is witnessing those feelings?...also if you think about speech which is opposite to listening...what is the source of mental process that gets coverted to sound through vocal chords....i mean what's the origin of inclination (sankalpam) to speak or do anything




All the mental phenomena,sensual activity could possibly eventually be mapped to neural activity. However,still I am not sure if the 'Hard problem of consciousness' can be addressed.

Dr.Ramachandra gives good neurological accounts of various mental phenomena. The videos can be found in youtube.

as for who witnesses or interprets the mental representations ...i think its a question of how self/reference point arises. it' a big unsettled question.

GEB is a good attempt to explain how self could possibly arise from inanimate -- ( or rather from symbolic systems .. sorry for my misinterpretation).

how about Eidetic memory!? if it is prove to be true... I would think it might only be possible when the mental phenomena have clear physical representation or meta representation.
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Vjavasi:

monna psychiatrist suicide article chdivara meeru?.....


:D yeah choosanu...incident was sad but funny
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Gandhiguevara:

Brother...you are close...maa doctor ki reccomend chesthaa





monna psychiatrist suicide article chdivara meeru?.....valla paristithe atla vunte inka patients ni emi treat chestaaru bro
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Mental_sachinodu:

physical senses, Mental senses/physiological senses ki linking ettesthunaar ga...

physical senses are just an extension or more of interface to the external world to process external environment. internal process is more of a mental process. even hearing a sound is converted to a mental process once it reaches the brain.





anni internal ga electric signals ee antaaru....then how is visual feeling different from hearing?...if the difference is just because of different centres of brain....who is witnessing those feelings?...also if you think about speech which is opposite to listening...what is the source of mental process that gets coverted to sound through vocal chords....i mean what's the origin of inclination (sankalpam) to speak or do anything
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Vjavasi:

we use ears to hear external sounds and sound needs some medium to travel..mari mana manasulo mata manaki etla vinipistundhi?...oka deaf&dumb person manasulo etla matladukuntaadu...


Brother...you are close...maa doctor ki reccomend chesthaa
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Onlytruth:

Eyes manchi kasi figure ni chudagane dash ki signals pampisthundhi...Dash nunchuntundhi...dash aa kasi figure ni elaa chusindhi ani adigite hem septaam ?




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Onlytruth:

Eyes manchi kasi figure ni chudagane dash ki signals pampisthundhi...Dash nunchuntundhi...dash aa kasi figure ni elaa chusindhi ani adigite hem septaam ?




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Vjavasi:

we use ears to hear external sounds and sound needs some medium to travel..mari mana manasulo mata manaki etla vinipistundhi?...oka deaf&dumb person manasulo etla matladukuntaadu...




good question bro.

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Mental_sachinodu:

internal process is more of a mental process. even hearing a sound is converted to a mental process once it reaches the brain.



exactly , this is what i'm trying to tell asalu mansulo mata vinapadatam anedhi illusionary concept.
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physical senses, Mental senses/physiological senses ki linking ettesthunaar ga...

physical senses are just an extension or more of interface to the external world to process external environment. internal process is more of a mental process. even hearing a sound is converted to a mental process once it reaches the brain.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Vjavasi:

Do you hear your thoughts?...when you observe you thoughts your hear them...hearing is also feeling...you feel sound



No I don't hear my thoughts I feel my thoughts. 'hearing is NOT a feeling' if it is then Deaf n Dumb also should be able to hear external sounds caz they have all the feelings like what normal human being has.
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malli adhe thappu i don't talk inside I think inside , edhaina think chesetappudu aa thought meedha oka feeling kaluguthundhi adhi manam execute chestham ikkada external/internal sounds tho panemundhi ? thats how Deaf&Dumb people can also think and feel their thought or word or whatever their heart tells.




Do you hear your thoughts?...when you observe you thoughts your hear them...hearing is also feeling...you feel sound
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Vjavasi:

.you talk inside yourself..right?



malli adhe thappu i don't talk inside I think inside , edhaina think chesetappudu aa thought meedha oka feeling kaluguthundhi adhi manam execute chestham ikkada external/internal sounds tho panemundhi ? thats how Deaf&Dumb people can also think and feel their thought or word or whatever their heart tells.
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Vjavasi:

ok, then what's the role of sound in hearing?....internal ga aa hearing mechanism etla panichestundhi?


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vinipinchataniki oka sound kaavali , anipinchataniki oka feeling kaavali.





ok,then how do you reason....you talk inside yourself..right?
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Eyes manchi kasi figure ni chudagane dash ki signals pampisthundhi...Dash nunchuntundhi...dash aa kasi figure ni elaa chusindhi ani adigite hem septaam ?



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Onlytruth:

Eyes manchi kasi figure ni chudagane dash ki signals pampisthundhi...Dash nunchuntundhi...dash aa kasi figure ni elaa chusindhi ani adigite hem septaam ?






idhi wrong analogy....wet dreams correct analogy anukuntunna
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Vjavasi:

difference enti?



vinipinchataniki oka sound kaavali , anipinchataniki oka feeling kaavali.
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'Anipisthundhi' kaani Vinapadadhu






difference enti?
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GandhiG vesadu anukunna thread :D
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Vjavasi:

mana manasulo mata manaki etla vinipistundhi?.



achhu thappu manasulo mata 'Anipisthundhi' kaani Vinapadadhu
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sound ni mind analyze & process chestundi recieve chesukunnaka .. mana manasulo mata direct ga mind analyze chesukotame..





ok, then what's the role of sound in hearing?....internal ga aa hearing mechanism etla panichestundhi?
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Vjavasi:

mari mana manasulo mata manaki etla vinipistundhi?




manake kaadhu andharikee vinipisthadhi... mana TV serial characters ayithe....
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mana manasulo mata manaki etla vinipistundhi?
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Eyes manchi kasi figure ni chudagane dash ki signals pampisthundhi...Dash nunchuntundhi...dash aa kasi figure ni elaa chusindhi ani adigite hem septaam ?
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Vjavasi:

we use ears to hear external sounds and sound needs some medium to travel..mari mana manasulo mata manaki etla vinipistundhi?...oka deaf&dumb person manasulo etla matladukuntaadu...




sound ni mind analyze & process chestundi recieve chesukunnaka :-).. mana manasulo mata direct ga mind analyze chesukotame..
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ee post chadivetappudu neeku manasu lo vinipistundi kada

"abba nee teeyani debbba" ani manasu lo without sound paadukogalavu kada

Mute person ki manasu lo maata elaa vinipistundi? excellent kochen yaa
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we use ears to hear external sounds and sound needs some medium to travel..mari mana manasulo mata manaki etla vinipistundhi?...oka deaf&dumb person manasulo etla matladukuntaadu...

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