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Rasputin:



firstly "Nothing is impossible" annadhi maravaku. there is no place for "NO" in any job. the easy way to escape is try to give alternate ideas if they won't listen then tell you need to investigate/look into it/analyze/etc.. one more way is buy some more time if feasible.
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Thank you all for all the comments & suggestions.
Getafix: I bet Arjun kuda edo krishnudu tho unna dosti valla mohamatam tho kudina bhayam valla ochina gouravam tho Gita saaram artham ayyndi ani thala oopi untad kani nijanga artham ayyi unadadhu.. hehe
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Mikkymouse:

Atleast it is working for me. Monna colligue kooda same question vesindhi nuvvu kudharadhu ante ok antunnaru, Ade nenu chebithe evaroo vinadam ledhu ani.




Gender discrimination...

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Immediate ga No ante, even though you have a good reason, evaru (including our kids) accept cheyaru:-). Anand garu annattu, never raise your voice. The more they realize they can get to you, they will keep doing it. You need to exercise your Influence skills like Expressive (Tell/Sell/Negotiate/Enlist) and Receptive (Inquire/Listen/Attune/Facilitate). Basically, you need to identify your stakeholder's style and use the appropriate skill to influence them. Give them some options. Scope increase ayyi, budget/resources/timeline remain the same, then you have to give them options with pros/cons/impact (of doing/not doing), recommend the best option, however let them choose. Also, see if it is possible for you to provide a short-term workaround.

Oka sari decision ayipoyaka, malli same issue raise avute, then invite all your stakeholders, walk them through what has happened so far. At all times, you need to look like you are on their side.
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Anand_n:

I had lot more years of practice - you'll get there too




hope so..
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Mental_sachinodu:

intha clarity ga cheppatam ela vasthundhi.. konni sarlu naa posts naake ardham kaavu..




I had lot more years of practice - you'll get there too :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

First thing. Voice raise cheyyatam, rude ga matladatam is suicide work-wise. Never do that.

As to saying No - Don't say no. Anything is possible if given enough time , people and money:-) Question is how much are they willing to pay for that feature. Calm ga impact analysis chesi present cheyyandi ...

Cost impact, timeline impact, quality risk ...

And then ask them to pick the options. No one wants to put their name on what is obviously a bad decision of paper - so you will get them to refuse instead of you shouting




intha clarity ga cheppatam ela vasthundhi.. konni sarlu naa posts naake ardham kaavu..
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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First thing. Voice raise cheyyatam, rude ga matladatam is suicide work-wise. Never do that.

As to saying No - Don't say no. Anything is possible if given enough time , people and money:-) Question is how much are they willing to pay for that feature. Calm ga impact analysis chesi present cheyyandi ...

Cost impact, timeline impact, quality risk ...

And then ask them to pick the options. No one wants to put their name on what is obviously a bad decision of paper - so you will get them to refuse instead of you shouting :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Never say NO upfront, say I will take it back with me, analyze and come back with the solution for it. Then you have the option of thinking about it offline, analyzing and out your thoughts in to words. You might be wrong some times when your initial thoughts could lead you to say NO too. So always take it offline do the analysis and give your answer in a document with different approaches including advantages/disadvantages. This approach will earn you respect as well as ensure good team spirit and success
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Rasputin:

Main problem is, No, kudaradu, ee pani cheyyalemu ani chebuthunte okkadu kooda vinatledu. How to say NO effectively and may be a little politely? Monna ayithe oka meeting lo oka feature kaavali antey kudaradu ani nenu cheppina taruvatha, ila kaavaali, alaa kaavaali argue chesthunnaaru. Gattiga, impossible ani nenu chebuthunnanu kada , take my word for it ani gattiga aravalsi vachindi.




Explain them why it is not possible and vallatho ne no cheppinchu by asking solution then they will agree with u.
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Mikky, thanks for the tip. Naa face lo smile antey konchem kashtam...kani try chesthaa.
Getafix: I bet Arjun kuda edo krishnudu tho unna dosti valla mohamatam tho kudina bhayam valla ochina gouravam tho Gita saaram artham ayyndi ani thala oopi untad kani nijanga artham ayyi unadadhu.. hehe
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feature request chesina athanu arrange chesukuntaadu meeting. Actually, he is trying to avoid work to his team, by rubbing it on my team. Naaku technically pedda problem kaadu, but product quality complete gaa (intha kante better word dorakaledu) M*** G**pothundi. It is up to him to convince everyone to deliver a crappy product, which is not going to happen.
Getafix: I bet Arjun kuda edo krishnudu tho unna dosti valla mohamatam tho kudina bhayam valla ochina gouravam tho Gita saaram artham ayyndi ani thala oopi untad kani nijanga artham ayyi unadadhu.. hehe
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Atleast it is working for me. Monna colligue kooda same question vesindhi nuvvu kudharadhu ante ok antunnaru, Ade nenu chebithe evaroo vinadam ledhu ani.
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Rasputin:




Ee pani aina vere vallu cheppina ventane manam NO (manaki clear ga telisina kooda) ante edhuti vallu asalu try cheyya kundane NO antunnadu. So cheyyadam estam leka annattu feel avutaru. Adhe cheppina ventane possible kadhu anukuntunnanu kaanee let me try ani chirunavvu tho (smile endhukante manaki aa pani cheyydaniki prob ledhu and happy gane feel avuthunnamu ani janalu anukodaniki) cheppi ala chesina kudaradam ledhu sorry ante saripothundhi.
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Rasputin:

3 hours gaa email chain laa velthooooney undi chaala mandiki.


multiple people involve ayyi, 3-4 times kante ekkuva mail court ki atu itu jump avutunte... better to arrange a conf call or meeting with everyone involved. My 2 cents...

Btw, aa book online lo PDF vundochu ...google cheyandi..
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Mr.Hyd try chestha book koni chadavataaniki.

I can't escape with "if feasible" easily. try cheyochhu aa meeting varaku.

Mav, Ivala lunch time lo alaane chesaa. Vere team lead oka feature adigithe, kondaru team members, program managers and my manager, tho discuss chesi....andaritho discuss chesaaka andaroo NO ani chepparu (nenu kaadu NO cheppedi ikkada andaroo NO antunnaaru) ani email pampaaa.

3 hours gaa email chain laa velthooooney undi chaala mandiki. Time ki oka aapadbhanduvudu verey team nundi, email lo kayyiii mani egiraadu....original requestor paina...
Getafix: I bet Arjun kuda edo krishnudu tho unna dosti valla mohamatam tho kudina bhayam valla ochina gouravam tho Gita saaram artham ayyndi ani thala oopi untad kani nijanga artham ayyi unadadhu.. hehe
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nneu ayithe chesedi testing lo. inkaa chaalaa mandi vuntaaru team lo. yevaru adiginaa "alaage..thappakundaa chudhaamu" antaanu. last minute lo nenu cheyyakapothe yevado..okaru vaalle chesukontaaru..

ippati varaku work out avuthondi
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Rasputin:


annai ikkada US lo vadu yentha yedava ayna, yentha nonsense matlduthunna vinali, next manam seppindhi seppali... thats it, dont shout or show anger


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Maverick:



Ilantivi written communication lo best..nee facial expression avi teliyav..Never say NO on face..




Yeah!!! written communixation is the best communication to convey some thing unusual!!
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Rasputin:

How to say NO effectively and may be a little politely?




Ilantivi written communication lo best..nee facial expression avi teliyav..Never say NO on face..
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Mental_sachinodu:

I will look into it, if feasible




ee path best, konni rojuluki vallake telusthundhi meeru look into it annaru ante inko telangana ne ani.
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hmmmm chaala klishtamaina paristhithi... nenu general ga oka ganta discuss chesi, alla sethe seppisthaa.. ala seyyatam correst kaadhu ani.. first what a great idea ani seppi, discussion modhalu petti, vaala sethe seppistha its not a good idea to go that route ani...

maa office lo janalki ardham ayipoyindhi ee trick, iffudu first ee aduguthaaru, first is it feasible to do ani....
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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meeting lo "I will look into it, if feasible" ani cheppu...meeting ayaka...Email cheyandi..sorry kudardhu..i tried ani...
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Rasputin:

you look unusually calm today



Rasputin:

please don't be mad at me, I have a question....


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Rasputin:




http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Say-Yes-When-Want/dp/0440154138

It is a very popular book
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Emanna tips unte cheppandi. Naakunna chinna career experience lo eppudo evarinee kaneesam kasurukonu kooda ledu. Eee madhya kasurukovadam kaadu kada, gattiga aravalsi vasthondi, argue cheyaalsi vasthondi even with people who are the same age as my dad.

Main problem is, No, kudaradu, ee pani cheyyalemu ani chebuthunte okkadu kooda vinatledu. How to say NO effectively and may be a little politely? Monna ayithe oka meeting lo oka feature kaavali antey kudaradu ani nenu cheppina taruvatha, ila kaavaali, alaa kaavaali argue chesthunnaaru. Gattiga, impossible ani nenu chebuthunnanu kada , take my word for it ani gattiga aravalsi vachindi.

Ee madhyana office lo kondaru, "you look unusually calm today" ani egathaali chesthunnaaru edhavalu. Inko edhava ayithe, "<my>, please don't be mad at me, I have a question...." ani extraaalu.
Getafix: I bet Arjun kuda edo krishnudu tho unna dosti valla mohamatam tho kudina bhayam valla ochina gouravam tho Gita saaram artham ayyndi ani thala oopi untad kani nijanga artham ayyi unadadhu.. hehe

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