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Diviseema:

and elac babu. matladithe ramudu sita ni elukoka adhi cheyyochhuga , edhi cheyyochhuga antunnav. Vishnu ramudi avatar ettindhi sita tho jeevithantham sakkaga kaapuram seyyadaaniki kaadhu. Prapanchaniki konni darmalu cheppalani.

sita episode lo darmam. Wife koosam Yuddam cheyyadam. Sarvasakthulu odduthadu bharya koosam. he free's his wife from demon Ravana. at the same time which he might have felt when thousands of people suffer because of this. what he might have felt when lakshamana gets hurt and almost died. i think he might have cursed seeta for this. Barthatho adiviki vasthe adivilo ela vundalo ala vundali anthe gaani akkada kooda shoping endhi. naaku jinka kaavali thokka kaavali ani. pooni adigindhi. malli lakshaman ni torture enti mee anna ni choodu ani. pooni pampindhi malli laksham oka geetha geesthe daatadam endhi. if u put all this in series , why people cannot think that seeta did all this preplanned and went with ravana. so ame thappulaki raamudu vesina siksha and karma siddantham. she suffered.




mind block chesinav tammi. ippudu malla feminist concept vastadi , sita ki freedom leda eppudu vere vallu cheppedi inalana ani.

Ramayanam purpose Ravanudi antham kosam, dharmama nilapataniki. Believers ki andulo incidents anni cosmic occurances with a purpose non believers ki trash
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and elac babu. matladithe ramudu sita ni elukoka adhi cheyyochhuga , edhi cheyyochhuga antunnav. Vishnu ramudi avatar ettindhi sita tho jeevithantham sakkaga kaapuram seyyadaaniki kaadhu. Prapanchaniki konni darmalu cheppalani.

sita episode lo darmam. Wife koosam Yuddam cheyyadam. Sarvasakthulu odduthadu bharya koosam. he free's his wife from demon Ravana. at the same time which he might have felt when thousands of people suffer because of this. what he might have felt when lakshamana gets hurt and almost died. i think he might have cursed seeta for this. Barthatho adiviki vasthe adivilo ela vundalo ala vundali anthe gaani akkada kooda shoping endhi. naaku jinka kaavali thokka kaavali ani. pooni adigindhi. malli lakshaman ni torture enti mee anna ni choodu ani. pooni pampindhi malli laksham oka geetha geesthe daatadam endhi. if u put all this in series , why people cannot think that seeta did all this preplanned and went with ravana. so ame thappulaki raamudu vesina siksha and karma siddantham. she suffered.
http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm
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1. Rama sita ni evaremanna pattinchukokunda Thanathone pettukunte , ee roju ki kooda meeru ramudi character ni anumaninchinattu sita ni ane vaallu. Because RAMA asked sita to do agnipravesh and fo to forest he took all the blame and left sita pure for thousands of years.

2. Geeta geesi daataddu thalle ante daatindhi seeta, he deserves some punishment. and when lakshman oppsoses seeta's command to go for rama. she speaks ill about lakshmana , she doubts his charecter , so its karma of seeta to get back into the same situation.

3. lakshmana is not a saint or purushottam like rama so he cuts surpanaka's ears and nose. he is mukkopi. rama will not do the same in such situation.
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Ishan:

7kondalu:

soodi kosam sodi ki velthe annatlu, google lo thataki kosam search chesthunte, paatha thread kanapadindi :-)

http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/46597.htm l?1238046120



thanks tammi i just went through this thread, same questions repeated here and in my other threads too.

arguments presented by both sides and remained inconclusive. One set of people belive Rama and ramayana and the other dont. Any argument presented for or against is seen with their respective ideology so there is not conclusion for this.
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Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Kamal:

Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti




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Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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7kondalu:


dushyanthudi koduku bharathudu kada, mahabharatham aadi parvam lo vasthundi kada.
kuru vamsa moola purushula lo okadu. so mana desam peru, dwaapara yugam bharathuni valla vacchindi kaani, threthayugam or anthaka mundu unna king peru meeda kaadu anukunta.




avuna ! sorry annai .. confuse ainattu unnanu ! i think you are correct ! Treta yugam kadu .. Dwaparame ..

7kondalu:

nope, same bomma roju choosthe majaa emiti...life is routine


10 months later .. almost similar thread .. kakapothe nenu aa thread lo takkuva post chesanu .. ee thread lo vere kontha mandi place lo debate chesaanu .. !
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Kamal:

Telugu word for "reciting" in a pre-determined format ..



thanks tamud...naa metta burra ki adhi kooda ardham kaaledh...kkd you are awesome...metta burra..kikikk
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Kamal:


yaa baa eppudu baa ne septaad .. kikk




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Jalsa:

parayanam enti?




Telugu word for "reciting" in a pre-determined format ..

like 3 days lo .. 1 day lo .. 11 days lo ... ala annamaata .. (each day .. inni sargalu/chapters complete cheyyaali ani untundi .. which you will have to do ! )
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Kamal:

hehe .. same people .. same issues .. same stances .. same stars .. life is strange !




nope, same bomma roju choosthe majaa emiti...life is routine :-)
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parayanam enti?
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Eluri_kurradu:

LWA tammud baa seppavu




yaa baa eppudu baa ne septaad .. kikk
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Ruj:

hi annai..




hi rujjai
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Rush:

Ramudi peru meeda ratha yatra chesi, maseedu koolchi, konni vela mandi chanipovataniki karanam ayina Advani lanti chor badmash galla kante Ramudi patrallo andarini entertain chesina NTR 100 times better...any day..


LWA tammud baa seppavu
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Kamal:

India lo unnappudu .. I used to do Sundara Kanda Parayanam .. I did it multiple times .. Anjaneyudiki fan ni nenu ..




chass .. jeevitam .. appude marchipoya .. 1 and half year kritam .. US lo ne chesa !
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Okahyderabadi:

Kamal tammi Ramayanam parayam modalu pettu anni shubamule jarugutayi. repu Surya Jayanti or Ratha saptami, start reading it. good luck




nenu ippude cheyyalenu annai .. will take some time !

India lo unnappudu .. I used to do Sundara Kanda Parayanam .. I did it multiple times .. Anjaneyudiki fan ni nenu .. :-)
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Kamal:

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/ Jai Sri Ram .. :-)



hey thanks..monna evaro mahabharatam link aduguthe nenu online vethukuthu idhi kanapadindhi ani icha ee link...appude marchipoya..:D..thanks again..Jai Sri Ram:-)
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hehe NTr okasari BJP VHP ki emi telsu nakanna ramudi gurinchi krishnudi gurinchi ani statement ichadu kiki No wonder .. ayana fans ala anukodam lo tappuled//////

Ramudi peru meeda ratha yatra chesi, maseedu koolchi, konni vela mandi chanipovataniki karanam ayina Advani lanti chor badmash galla kante Ramudi patrallo andarini entertain chesina NTR 100 times better...any day..
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goodnight
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7kondalu:

http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/46597.htm l?1238046120




hehe .. same people .. same issues .. same stances .. same stars .. life is strange !

Ruj:

kamalaii..edhayina online source dwaara chaduvuthunattu ayithe ee metta burra mohana kooda link adeyi..


http://www.valmikiramayan.net/ Jai Sri Ram .. :-)
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Okahyderabadi:

good luck cheppu tammi, please ask to finish it completely and not leave it in middle.



Thanks annai. will let her know :-) I'm sure she won't quit in between :-)
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Okahyderabadi:


urock annai..:-)
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Jalsa:

kamal tamud, mee ramayanam, mahabaratham theds valla inspire ayyi..mahabharatham sadvings home dept


good luck cheppu tammi, please ask to finish it completely and not leave it in middle.

Kamal tammi Ramayanam parayam modalu pettu anni shubamule jarugutayi. repu Surya Jayanti or Ratha saptami, start reading it. good luck
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Kamal:

nenu Ramayanam start cheddaam anukuntunna tondara lo .. !



Ishan:

mundu pelli chesko nataraja...avanni taruvatha.


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7kondalu:

soodi kosam sodi ki velthe annatlu, google lo thataki kosam search chesthunte, paatha thread kanapadindi :-)

http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/46597.htm l?1238046120


Ee thread elaago miss ayya nenu...thanks...oka glance isthaa...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO0yBqtOhj4

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7kondalu:



hi annai..
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Kamal:

nenu Ramayanam start cheddaam anukuntunna tondara lo .. !



kamalaii..edhayina online source dwaara chaduvuthunattu ayithe ee metta burra mohana kooda link adeyi..:D
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soodi kosam sodi ki velthe annatlu, google lo thataki kosam search chesthunte, paatha thread kanapadindi :-)

http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/46597.htm l?1238046120
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Kamal:

long long ago .. even prior to Rama and Ramayana era .. the whole of India (Akhand Bharat or whatever you want to call ) .. was ruled by an emporer called "Bharata". ala vachindi name ..




dushyanthudi koduku bharathudu kada, mahabharatham aadi parvam lo vasthundi kada.
kuru vamsa moola purushula lo okadu. so mana desam peru, dwaapara yugam bharathuni valla vacchindi kaani, threthayugam or anthaka mundu unna king peru meeda kaadu anukunta.
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Jalsa:


tammudu mee intlo anyonya dbingaa?
maa intlo Razesh/Jeevi lantivallu kanapadithe murders jarugutayani bhayamga undi
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Ishan:

mundu pelli chesko nataraja...avanni taruvatha.




vaarini .. maa intlo monna ee madhye .. edo vishayam lo cheppesa .. 28 vachemundu varaku kanisam aalochinchaddu ani .. aina 25 ki pella .. I think I am not ready yet annai .. !
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Ishan:

mundu pelli chesko nataraja..



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Kamal:


nenu Ramayanam start cheddaam anukuntunna tondara lo ..


mundu pelli chesko nataraja...avanni taruvatha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO0yBqtOhj4

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kamal tamud, mee ramayanam, mahabaratham theds valla inspire ayyi..mahabharatham sadvings home dept




awesome annai .. happy for you people ! :-)

nenu Ramayanam start cheddaam anukuntunna tondara lo .. !

Eluri_kurradu:

ade aa reaction ...


kiki .. no comments inka ..
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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A poet is allowed to take a hell lot of liberty with grammar...same with movie makers....there is no point in finding fault with them

movies ni movies laga choodali...not as a source of information or knowledge
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Ayina NTR opposition lo unnadu aa time ki
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avunu .. 1992 lo Babri koolchinappudu NTR reaction enti? :D


ade aa reaction ...
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Kamal:



kamal tamud, mee ramayanam, mahabaratham theds valla inspire ayyi..mahabharatham sadvings home dept
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Jalsa:

chaala matuku


screen play evadiki istham vachi nattu rasukunnaru. kaka pote konni padyalu matram too much.

bava eppudu
jenda pai kapi raju
alugutaye erungani
sandi seyaga

awesome
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avunu .. 1992 lo Babri koolchinappudu NTR reaction enti? :D
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Eluri_kurradu:

hehe NTr okasari BJP VHP ki emi telsu nakanna ramudi gurinchi krishnudi gurinchi ani statement ichadu kiki No wonder .. ayana fans ala anukodam lo tappuledu




avuna .. ala annada NTR .. NTR ala anakunda undaalsindi .. aayana ki naa subhakankshalu telapandi ..
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Kamal:

.. nee kante NTR ki ekkuve telusu ga mythology .. enduku tappu teestadu ani meeda padipoyevaaru .. chache vaadini explain cheyyaleka .


hehe NTr okasari BJP VHP ki emi telsu nakanna ramudi gurinchi krishnudi gurinchi ani statement ichadu kiki No wonder .. ayana fans ala anukodam lo tappuledu
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mana mythological chitraalalo chaala matuku cinematic liberty teesukuntaru anukunta
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Okahyderabadi:

ntr movies lo ilantivi chana common tammi. avi chusi nijam story ide ani fix ayina vallu chana mandi unnaru




hehe .. yaa

naa undergrad lo 2 NTR veerabhimaanulu undevaaru .. Dana Veera Sura Karna choosi .. vaadana ki digevaaru Krishnudu ila .. Karnudu ala ani .. jeevitam .. explain cheste oppukune vaaru kaadu .. nee kante NTR ki ekkuve telusu ga mythology .. enduku tappu teestadu ani meeda padipoyevaaru .. chache vaadini explain cheyyaleka .. appatlo knowledge kooda takkuva .. sahanam maree takkuva .. :D
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Mamamiya786:

idi chaduvutunte oka scene gurtu vachhindi Lav Kusa cinema lo.

Ramudu ..sita devi bangaru vigrahanni pettinchukoni ashwamedha yagam chestuntadu ...ei mmata sita ki evaro chebutaru ...

appudu sita devi ,,,,edi aathma laga velli chusi vastundi ...thanu appatidaka evarino pellichesukunnadu anukuntudni ...aa vigrahanni chusi ..aanandam vastundi venakki..

ei scene rasidni evado gaani ...direct sesindi evado gaani nakaithe nachhaledu ..That is simply belittling sita devi character ...
Sita eppudu Ramudni anumaninchaledu ..




ntr movies lo ilantivi chana common tammi. avi chusi nijam story ide ani fix ayina vallu chana mandi unnaru
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvWknRWAouc
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Elcaminocapastrino:

Debatable act 3) Deserting a heavily pregnant sita in forest

this is too much....lets say rama is following the dharma as per the ancient era....but we have human beings like gurajada apparao who stood against the superficial practices n challenged the society n even bought a change to it...
Why Rama couldnt achieve that n avoided deserting sita n he aint even a human...he is god???




idi chaduvutunte oka scene gurtu vachhindi Lav Kusa cinema lo.

Ramudu ..sita devi bangaru vigrahanni pettinchukoni ashwamedha yagam chestuntadu ...ei mmata sita ki evaro chebutaru ...

appudu sita devi ,,,,edi aathma laga velli chusi vastundi ...thanu appatidaka evarino pellichesukunnadu anukuntudni ...aa vigrahanni chusi ..aanandam vastundi venakki..

ei scene rasidni evado gaani ...direct sesindi evado gaani nakaithe nachhaledu ..That is simply belittling sita devi character ...
Sita eppudu Ramudni anumaninchaledu ...
Ramoji thana group lo 26% , business expansion kosam ammadu ..Margadarsi depositiors ki pay cheyadaniki kadu -- OT
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Ram kurrod kante Kitna kurrod chala better

8 wives ni baga choosukunnad
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Mental_sachinodu:

idhemi setting




antey nenu cheppinadhi common man ki......meelanti,anand lanti extraordinary mental ability vunna people ki kadhu
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life lo vuntey strong believerga fix ayipovali lekaothey atheist laga fix ayipovali..........madyalo vuntey ready movie
lo brami laga suicidial tendencies peruguthayi manaki :D




idhemi setting ..
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Elcaminocapastrino:

and how are u addressin my quecchins...from the POV of Rama as a god or as a human?




no where in ramayana, Rama uses his powers as a god. he lives like a human in every aspect of his life. that is the reason he was called purushothamudu, as he was ideal with his responsibilities, even if it meant going through personal losses.

if a person is living by an ideology or for an ideology, a path not easy to be taken, more often than not, his closed one's have to go through a lot of struggle along with the person. it can be true even in your life, or my life.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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ee vishayam meedha maa friend tho full argument oka roju, vaadu naa tho agreed actually first day... next day valla parents tho maatladi "prathi daniki oka good reason vuntadi" manaki ardham kaledu anukovali ani cheppadu




naku elanti experiences chala ayinayi mama..........nenu strong believers tho discuss cheseydappudu.........vallu logicalga convince cheyakunda.......chala positivega.....cover chestaru......but manamu logicalga god ala cheyakudadhu kada antey........adhi cheyatamu valla another advantages vunnayi ani verey reasons chepputharu.........


Basicga nenu observe chesinadhi amiti antey......strong believers ni manamu convince cheyalemu..........life lo vuntey strong believerga fix ayipovali lekaothey atheist laga fix ayipovali..........madyalo vuntey ready movie lo brami laga suicidial tendencies peruguthayi manaki :D
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Elcaminocapastrino:


kiki e time lo nyayam prakaam aa time lo tappu sesaada? Emi logic saamy endo liberals ki anni kamedyle
Ramudu ante TEXT BOOK prakaram velladu aneka tyagalu sesadu seethani agnipravesam cheyinchina adavilo vadilina taane ekkuva bhadapaddadu ..
Avina valmiki manssulonchi ramudu puttina innivela samvatsaraluga samskritilo pathukupoyadu
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Rama is a human who attained God status thru his actions ! now he being Human when he did those actions and later turned God .. so u have understand those in the right perspective .. he played different roles in different times ..

just like way we do in life .. with mom and with girl friend .. with colleagues in office .. not every action of us is in sync with the remaining right .. we do what is needed .. same way .. Rama did exactly what the situation demanded !

idi naaku telisinadi ..
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Mental_sachinodu:

but are we assuming that deserting a wife is a bad thing in those times? there is a chance that it is a normal thing to do those days, and the wives were ok with it


Is it safe to assume Ram if he is a god...then even being a god he cannot think beyond the evil norms of a scoiety but succumbed to them and did not put any brave effort to change it but chose an easy path of sacrificin his wife which would in turn bring him accolades for his actions???
and if he was just a human n a king then he did go by the protocol as per those days and he is no diff from a krsihna devaraya?
and how are u addressin my quecchins...from the POV of Rama as a god or as a human?
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Elcaminocapastrino:

lets say rama is following the dharma as per the ancient era....but we have human beings like gurajada apparao who stood against the superficial practices n challenged the society n even bought a change to it...when they can do it...why cant Rama???
Why Rama couldnt achieve that n avoided deserting sita??? n he aint even a human...he is god




there was no concept of varna bedham during the time of Rama. Rama himself ate from the plate of sabhari who was a tribal, he stayed with guha during his exile.

you are talking about a society that has changed over thousands of years from Ram to Gurajada apparao. Rama understood that a king's duties were bigger than self or his wife so he chose the right path and established the precedence of dharma over personal gains
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Elcaminocapastrino:

lets say rama is following the dharma as per the ancient era....but we have human beings like gurajada apparao who stood against the superficial practices n challenged the society n even bought a change to it...when they can do it...why cant Rama???
Why Rama couldnt achieve that n avoided deserting sita??? n he aint even a human...he is god




I am saying it again, the Rama in utharakanda, is not consistent character wise with Rama in Ramayana, and there is no indepth description of this episode in utharakanda around the situations. this was not written by Valmiki.

Coming to Gurajada, raja rammohan roy, i admire their ability to fight the system, when there is something wrong, when there are protests against it. but are we assuming that deserting a wife is a bad thing in those times? there is a chance that it is a normal thing to do those days, and the wives were ok with it. may be wives were not so dependent on husbands those days? just being a devil's advocate.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Elcaminocapastrino:

comeon ...the writer would have used proper imagination n chosen better examples to portray Rama sacrificin sita for his kingdon than takin into consideration the mumblings of a mere drunkard....if Rama goes n sits in a bar around these drunkards n with the kind of gossips n junk these drunkards do n then take these seriously n start sacrificng then there wont be any sense or end to it....
OK even if has taken that seriously
why couldnt have Rama reasoned with that drunkard n resolved the issue in a more amicable manner??? u mentioned all the possibilities except this...Rama doesnt have to become a saddam n behead that guy...he could simply had a dialogue with him...explain him how sita even went through flames to prove her purity or watever n make him realize his mistakes...
But he chose to send a pregnant sita to forest
there are three debatable points from ur narration
1)giving more importance to superficial concepts like raghuvamsa gouravam n other crap than giving more importance to his wife..she is real..not the vamsa gouravam....then even honor killins in the name of vamsa gouravam or relion gauravam can also be justified
2)Takin seriously the allegations of a drunk motor mouth
3)And istead of reasoning with the drunkard chosing to sacrifice sita....

AT the end of the day sita became an object whose main objective rotates around protecting her husbands vamsa gouravam or his king gauravam n in the prcoess going through all sorts of pain....which is sad n senseless...a greater cause I ccould understand....




tammi, akkada valmiki interpretation ki chance ledu, he is writing what he saw through his divya drusti

for us to sit now and talk about Raghu vamsha gouravam etc as trash is ok, the reason why Ramayanam is worshipped in so many countries all across the known world over all these thousands of years is people do understand the concept of dharma and the concept of an Ideal King to his subjects and the sacrifices made to uphold them.
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Mental_sachinodu:

well, thats interesting. who are we to say what should important to one person. why do we have to live with the assumption that a person is more important than an idea?

it seems you are chosing a person to be given more value than a concept, and the other person is chosing an idea over a person. to me both the guys are on the same boat. who can say who is right and who is wrong, it all depends on perception.




nee school nenu septha .. nee school peru "mimamsa" annattu .. :D

ee school lo sadivithe .. anni correct lekkane untayi .. anni tappu lekka kooda untayi annattu .. prapancham lo asalu correct/wrong anetidi edi ledu ani seppinru le mee teachers ..
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Mental_sachinodu:

dont you think the rules of those days are different, and they were trying to live by those rules.



Elcaminocapastrino:

lets say rama is following the dharma as per the ancient era....but we have human beings like gurajada apparao who stood against the superficial practices n challenged the society n even bought a change to it...when they can do it...why cant Rama???
Why Rama couldnt achieve that n avoided deserting sita??? n he aint even a human...he is god


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Elcaminocapastrino:

giving more importance to superficial concepts like raghuvamsa gouravam n other crap than giving more importance to his wife..she is real..not the vamsa gouravam....then even honor killins in the name of vamsa gouravam or relion gauravam can also be justified




well, thats interesting. who are we to say what should important to one person. why do we have to live with the assumption that a person is more important than an idea?

it seems you are chosing a person to be given more value than a concept, and the other person is chosing an idea over a person. to me both the guys are on the same boat. who can say who is right and who is wrong, it all depends on perception.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Mrhyderabad:

Okahyderabadi:

he left his wife Sita amma in Valmiki's ashramam.

No, as far as i know... he instructs laxman to leave sita in the forest.

Laxman also apologizes to her while leaving there.

She roams around in forest and loses her consciousness after some time...

Valmiki and his group find them and then brings her to their aashram.

Correct kaadaa?

Also, sita wants to visit the forest. She doesn't wish to live in the forest.

Sita ki last minute varaku chepparu... she only comes to know about it when laxman explains it to her about his brother's orders.

Sita even blames rama that, "why does he have to lie to me and send this way? If he could have asked me i would have happily come to the forest ...etc"

Correct aa kaadaa?




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Okahyderabadi:

Rama said "The dharma of the Kings. A King is a servant to the people. He must be able to sacrifice everything for his nation, even his very life should it be required. Only then can one be fit to rule a nation. Only then can one be called a King."


comeon ...the writer would have used proper imagination n chosen better examples to portray Rama sacrificin sita for his kingdon than takin into consideration the mumblings of a mere drunkard....if Rama goes n sits in a bar around these drunkards n with the kind of gossips n junk these drunkards do n then take these seriously n start sacrificng then there wont be any sense or end to it....
OK even if has taken that seriously
why couldnt have Rama reasoned with that drunkard n resolved the issue in a more amicable manner??? u mentioned all the possibilities except this...Rama doesnt have to become a saddam n behead that guy...he could simply had a dialogue with him...explain him how sita even went through flames to prove her purity or watever n make him realize his mistakes...
But he chose to send a pregnant sita to forest
there are three debatable points from ur narration
1)giving more importance to superficial concepts like raghuvamsa gouravam n other crap than giving more importance to his wife..she is real..not the vamsa gouravam....then even honor killins in the name of vamsa gouravam or relion gauravam can also be justified
2)Takin seriously the allegations of a drunk motor mouth
3)And istead of reasoning with the drunkard chosing to sacrifice sita....

AT the end of the day sita became an object whose main objective rotates around protecting her husbands vamsa gouravam or his king gauravam n in the prcoess going through all sorts of pain....which is sad n senseless...a greater cause I ccould understand....
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Kamal:

ante nuvvu liberal school .. naa type extreme school renditi answers avaleela ga istunnav .. ye school lo admission teesukunnav ani asking yaar .




ee school oo naake thelidh.. pavala type lo nenu hater school laaa undhi, evaru etu vaipu unte, nenu opp side untunna...


Humpty_dumpty:

annai...honest gaa chepthunna i too felt the same way but did not post it owing to my laziness...naaku ramayanam is more of dharma and karma than anything else anna feeling inka gattipadindhee...

ramudu and his story is just a means to guide people to lead a better life ethically, morally...it is not about God , it is about you and me...and it is not wrong to question when u have to make the choice of following it ani septhunna...1000s of yrs nundi follow awuthunaaru...meeru questioning aa antay AOR analani undhi

btw, nenu ramayanam sadava ledhu. sadivina ofinion idhay untaadhi anukuntunna



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Elcaminocapastrino:

define abuse??? think about the mental abuse sita had to go through when she was subjected to suspicion b4 agni praves and when she was deserted in middle of no where when she was 5 month pregnant...
Abuse antey meedh apadi kotteyatamey kaadhu anukunta....and studies showed mental abuse to be more damagin than physical


Adhey chepthunna brother...Rama had two choices then. First, to send her to forest as his duty of a king; second, not to send her to the forest as his duty of husband. He opted first. Now from sita's perspective or when you put yourself in sita's position, it might have been a wrong act. But at least he fulfilled his duties as a king. In either case, there was no selfish motive i.e. he did not do any thing for him self.

But in case of classical definition of abusive husbands, there is always a selfish motive.

It all boils down to selfish or un-sefish motivation. That's how one has to define morality.
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Okahyderabadi:

he left his wife Sita amma in Valmiki's ashramam.


No, as far as i know... he instructs laxman to leave sita in the forest.

Laxman also apologizes to her while leaving there.

She roams around in forest and loses her consciousness after some time...

Valmiki and his group find them and then brings her to their aashram.

Correct kaadaa?

Also, sita wants to visit the forest. She doesn't wish to live in the forest.

Sita ki last minute varaku chepparu... she only comes to know about it when laxman explains it to her about his brother's orders.

Sita even blames rama that, "why does he have to lie to me and send this way? If he could have asked me i would have happily come to the forest ...etc"

Correct aa kaadaa?
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endhi naa moderator post meedha paddava.. kaavalante teesi paaradobbamanu.. i don't give a damn.. kottadhi edhanna unte attuku raa poyyi..

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Mental_sachinodu:

ardham kaale...




ante nuvvu liberal school .. naa type extreme school renditi answers avaleela ga istunnav .. ye school lo admission teesukunnav ani asking yaar .. :D
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Netra:

nuvvu saarmi vi.. nee meedha ekki ooguthunna.. nuvvu oopinchukuntunnavu le..





Netra:

neeku arddam aithe nuvvendhuku esttavu posts..





Netra:


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Rama was a bad person?

Or Ramayana is badly written?

Or you think 'the screenplay goes haywire in the second half. audience were confused when rama asked sita to do agni pravesam. Valmiki was confused.' ?
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Mrhyderabad:


So he WON as a king but failed as a Husband antunnaraa




meeru inko thread lo adigina question gurtundi naku. No he performed both his duties perfectly. He for the sake of his kingdom sacrificed his personal life and he left his wife Sita amma in Valmiki's ashramam.

If you read valmiki ramayan Sita amma actually asks sri Rama she is interested to go back and live in the forest as she misses the peace and tranquility and freeness found there in the palace. In a way Sri Rama was also fulfilling her desire. Do you think Sita amma who convinced Rama and everybody of her duties as a wife would not have asked these questions of Rama if she had not realized the duties or Rama as a king?

andaru undi literal ga ekaki la bratikadu Ramudu antahpuram lo nirantaram Sita amma vari gnapakalatho. He punished himself but upheld his Raja dharma.
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Ishan:

kottetodu ante, ippudu ledaa aayana? ...



ante i mean .. ippudu quit chesindochu ani annattu anthe kaani ledu ani kaadu.
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Kamal:

baa seppav .. ye school needi ?




ardham kaale...
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Mental_sachinodu:

again, life has a different meaning in these mythologies, physical attributes are not considered as a posession one has to worry about. so bhasman chesedhi usual physical attributes kabatti, it does not matter much to the one's getting destroyed.



baa seppav .. ye school needi ? :D
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Mental_sachinodu:

ans ayina thappu thappe kadha...


There is a story about ganesha's birth but that is beyond this thread's scope.

Getafix:

shivudu weed kottetodu ani vinna..nijamena?


kottetodu ante, ippudu ledaa aayana? ...he might have been...I don't know...he represents thamo guna of trinity (classically)...but there are certain things about his character that I like.

Mrhyderabad:

So his argument was - For me, my parents are like gods. So she needs to respect them and serve them with no less honor.


Well then you have to make an agreement with her regarding the duties she has to perform after marriage. You also ought to make declarations as to what would be the punishments if she disobeys them. If beating is one of them, you are entitled to. emantaaru?
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Kamal:

tappu samadhanalu ivvaku kurrol ki .. aaay .




kamal thammi,
Siva tho careful ga undali, evaru edhuru vellina, bhasmam sesi tharvatha matladuthaad ani anukuntunna.. thats his trait ...

again, life has a different meaning in these mythologies, physical attributes are not considered as a posession one has to worry about. so bhasman chesedhi usual physical attributes kabatti, it does not matter much to the one's getting destroyed.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Mrhyderabad:

Too much oogi potunnaru...




nuvvu saarmi vi.. nee meedha ekki ooguthunna.. nuvvu oopinchukuntunnavu le..

Mrhyderabad:

Cheppe vaallu chebutunnaru... interest vunna vaallu chaduvutunnaru



neeku interest aa?? dheni meedha.. devudu ledu ani seppaneeki thaapthrayam.. bhootulu thittukovadam kanna parama rotha pani idhi naa dristtilo pakkodi nammakam meedha comedy seyyadam ante.. neeku arddam aithe nuvvendhuku esttavu posts..
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Okahyderabadi:




paanch taare ..
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Netra:

asala devudini nammanollaki explanation arddam avvuddi anukuntunnara.. vadhileyyandi saar.. ivvoddu plz..


Cheppe vaallu chebutunnaru... interest vunna vaallu chaduvutunnaru... madhya lo meeku problem enti? Too much oogi potunnaru...
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Okahyderabadi:

The "bad decision" is from a marital relationship point of view. The "right thing to do" is from the dharmic point of view.




So he WON as a king but failed as a Husband antunnaraa
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Ishan:

those desi husbands were abusive,


define abuse??? think about the mental abuse sita had to go through when she was subjected to suspicion b4 agni praves and when she was deserted in middle of no where when she was 5 month pregnant...
Abuse antey meedh apadi kotteyatamey kaadhu anukunta....and studies showed mental abuse to be more damagin than physical
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Mrhyderabad:

Does it justify?




nee enks .. madhya lo nuvvu, nenu evaru saami justify cheyyadaaniki .. kurrod, his ex-wife justified anukunnaru kabatte kada vidipoyaaru .. :D
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Mental_sachinodu:

1) Sita's agni pravesam.

There are two different things to consider here, one Rama as the prince of raghuvamsa, and Rama as husband. there are two different dharma's he has to satisfy.

Popular conception of the Ramayana war is that it was waged for Sita, but this is only partly true. The actual reason for the war, as explained by Rama to Sita, is for the honor of the Raghuvamsa, it was his dharma to avenge the dishonor done to his kingdom and Raghuvamsa to wage against Ravana, and restore the honor. But being a prince, he also is responsible for the honor of the queen, and so could not accept Sita as his princess, even though he understands that she is chaste. there is alot of description of the agony that Rama and Sita go through, during this discussion.

Rama explains his responsilities as a prine/king and his responsibilities are more important than his personal feelings and personal responsibilities(which we can either agree or disagree). As per his dharma as a king, he cannot accept someone as a queen to his kingdom, who was in the care of another person.

Sita after listening to this, asks to kill herself by walking into a pyre. since she cannot imagine a life without Rama. Valmiki also explains that Lakshmana was angered at this act of Rama, and tries to defies his brother's words for the first time. Sita calms lakshamana and he arranges the pyre. she walks into the pyre unharmed. this suprises everyone, including everyone watching.

now either we can sympathize with Sita for the pain she had to go through, but we also need to consider the pain of Rama who gets ready to loose his wife for the sake of his duty.




annai...honest gaa chepthunna i too felt the same way but did not post it owing to my laziness...naaku ramayanam is more of dharma and karma than anything else anna feeling inka gattipadindhee...

ramudu and his story is just a means to guide people to lead a better life ethically, morally...it is not about God , it is about you and me...and it is not wrong to question when u have to make the choice of following it ani septhunna...1000s of yrs nundi follow awuthunaaru...meeru questioning aa antay AOR analani undhi

btw, nenu ramayanam sadava ledhu. sadivina ofinion idhay untaadhi anukuntunna
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Okahyderabadi:

The "bad decision" is from a marital relationship point of view. The "right thing to do" is from the dharmic point of view. There is no contradiction, its just the context that is the difference.




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Getafix:

shivudu weed kottetodu ani vinna..nijamena?




yaa visham taagithe weed free concept undedi aa rojullo .. anduke Shiva adi chesadu .. same rule follow avutaava? :D
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Mental_sachinodu:

Shiva is known to make mistakes in anger




sivaarpanam.. siva puranam prakaaram lord siva prathi roopale brahma + Vishnu + maheswarudu(rudrudu) and prakruthi prathi roopaalu gaa maathalani srusttinchaadu antaaru sootha maha muni.. mari idhendhi saar meeru ila chebuthunnaru.. confuse seyyamaakandi maa laanti alpha bhaktulani
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Ishan:

Abusive husbands abuse their wives for no reason or selfish reasons.


Who knows brother? Even they might have their own reasons.. err Dharma's

I know a guy who used to abuse his wife verbally and physically as she was NOT serving his parents right... like touching their feet every now and then, not standing up when ever his father comes in to the living room etc. (They are divorced now...that's a different topic)

So his argument was - For me, my parents are like gods. So she needs to respect them and serve them with no less honor.

Does it justify?
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Kamal:





I was just looking at the DB and saw this thread could not resist. I will post my views here about the questions asked. I guess these questions could be asked in the same thread RAMAYANAM -II but its fine i will try to answer here

Rama is a husband, a would be father and a KING. All the people in his kingdom are his children. That is the concept of King in those days.

Lets take the case of Rama punishing the chakali vadu for the words he uttered
- if he had punished him by sending him to karagaram he would be only doing his duty as a husband who promises to protect the honor of his wife but failing as a king
- if he had knocked off that guy and anybody who said anything against sita amma he would be called SADDAM and not RAM

- if we say he could have ignored that guy, a husband perhaps can ignore it but an ideal King cannot.

the episode highlights (to me) the dilemma faced by Sri Rama when his duties as a King conflicted with his "Dharma as a husband.Nowhere in the Ramayana it is stated that Rama hated his wife, committed any atrocities on her. On the contrary he loved her. But his duty towards his Country and his subjects was supreme.

The "bad decision" is from a marital relationship point of view. The "right thing to do" is from the dharmic point of view. There is no contradiction, its just the context that is the difference.


Rama said "The dharma of the Kings. A King is a servant to the people. He must be able to sacrifice everything for his nation, even his very life should it be required. Only then can one be fit to rule a nation. Only then can one be called a King."

It is the people of ayodhya who have to be faulted for this not Rama.
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Ishan:

shiva fans ikkada




oka chinna doub.. hurt kavoddu.. shivudu weed kottetodu ani vinna..nijamena?
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Mental_sachinodu:

lord shiva is living by dharma ani annapudu cheppu brother. Shiva is known to make mistakes in anger.


tappu samadhanalu ivvaku kurrol ki .. aaay .. :D
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Ishan:

shiva fans ikkada




fans ayina thappu thappe kadha... :D
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Mental_sachinodu:

lord shiva is living by dharma ani annapudu cheppu brother.


shiva fans ikkada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO0yBqtOhj4

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Elcaminocapastrino:

If someone can justify rama deserting a pregnant sita in forest then they should also defend all the desi abusive husbands deserting their wives in US making them fend for themselves


Don't you see the answer in your question? those desi husbands were abusive, but rama was not. Rama did it to safeguard the reputation of his dynansty which was again his duty as a king. Abusive husbands abuse their wives for no reason or selfish reasons. Motivation is important, not the act.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO0yBqtOhj4

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Elcaminocapastrino:

.wat dharma was lord shiva following when he beheaded the kid ganes guarding parvathis palace




lord shiva is living by dharma ani annapudu cheppu brother. Shiva is known to make mistakes in anger.


Elcaminocapastrino:

If someone can justify rama deserting a pregnant sita in forest then they should also defend all the desi abusive husbands deserting their wives in US making them fend for themselves ,the news which we constantly in papers these days and boil our
blood...ramudiki oka rule satish or sirish or ramesh ki ingo rule aa??




certainly there cannot be a different rule for each person, but by the rules we live today, we have agreed for the government to have a say on how a husband treats a wife, or how a parent treats their kids. those are the rules and we are living by those rules. dont you think the rules of those days are different, and they were trying to live by those rules.
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Mental_sachinodu:

There are two different things to consider here, one Rama as the prince of raghuvamsa, and Rama as husband. there are two different dharma's he has to satisfy.




perfect .. :-)
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Mrhyderabad:

BHARATA DESAM ani enduku pettaru?




ee bharathduu shankunthala and dushyantha's son
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Netra:

asala devunne nammamu ani seppetollaki devudu sesina vaati meedha explanations isttunnaru soodu meeku sethuletti eduthunna dhandam.. ee dhairyam tho convince seyyalani soottunnaro arddam kaavatledhu..




perfect ga cheppevu..
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asala devunne nammamu ani seppetollaki devudu sesina vaati meedha explanations isttunnaru soodu meeku sethuletti eduthunna dhandam.. ee dhairyam tho convince seyyalani soottunnaro arddam kaavatledhu..
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Getafix:

dharmam is responsibility ani anukovacha?


Yes. Dharma is the righteous duty to be done by your position whether you personally like it or not.
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Ishan:

I think reverse is true. Satyam never changes, Dharma changes according to time.



ishan bro,

satyam is truth so dharmam is responsibility ani anukovacha?
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Mrhyderabad:

Oka tagubotu maata vini nindu choolalu ayina seetamma talli ni adavulaku pampadam lo ramudu YE DHARAMAM follow ayyadu or nilabettadu?




Mrhyd bro,

i think this was not part of ramayana, and many do not accept as authentic ramayana. there are atleast three versions of ramayana. and each have a different story.

now, coming to whether this is a good act by Rama, i feel it needs further understanding of the situation. Sita had already performed agni pravesha(Rama did not ask her to do it), to prove her purity worthy of being a queen. why would Rama ask her to be sent to forest once it was already proven.it doesent sound good enough reason for Rama to send her to valmiki.

coming to Elca's other question, i am waiting to see why he considers those acts as wrong.

1) Sita's agni pravesam.

There are two different things to consider here, one Rama as the prince of raghuvamsa, and Rama as husband. there are two different dharma's he has to satisfy.

Popular conception of the Ramayana war is that it was waged for Sita, but this is only partly true. The actual reason for the war, as explained by Rama to Sita, is for the honor of the Raghuvamsa, it was his dharma to avenge the dishonor done to his kingdom and Raghuvamsa to wage against Ravana, and restore the honor. But being a prince, he also is responsible for the honor of the queen, and so could not accept Sita as his princess, even though he understands that she is chaste. there is alot of description of the agony that Rama and Sita go through, during this discussion.

Rama explains his responsilities as a prine/king and his responsibilities are more important than his personal feelings and personal responsibilities(which we can either agree or disagree). As per his dharma as a king, he cannot accept someone as a queen to his kingdom, who was in the care of another person.

Sita after listening to this, asks to kill herself by walking into a pyre. since she cannot imagine a life without Rama. Valmiki also explains that Lakshmana was angered at this act of Rama, and tries to defies his brother's words for the first time. Sita calms lakshamana and he arranges the pyre. she walks into the pyre unharmed. this suprises everyone, including everyone watching.

now either we can sympathize with Sita for the pain she had to go through, but we also need to consider the pain of Rama who gets ready to loose his wife for the sake of his duty.
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Analog:



i was talking about polygamy...




thats correct .. meeru misuse antunnaru .. nenu dharmam tappadu antunna .. no big difference !
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Elcaminocapastrino:

ramudiki oka rule satish or sirish or ramesh ki ingo rule aa??


Elca tamud avesapadaku..na maata vini valmiki ramayanm oka sari saduv imagination akula katta pakkana ettu..andulo nerchukunnevi chana unnayi..
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Kamal:

ardam kaaledu .. following Ekapatnivratyam ni common man misuse chesadu antara?




i was talking about polygamy...
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Ishan:

I think reverse is true. Satyam never changes, Dharma changes according to time.


swarry tamud u r rite
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Bhikhu:

satyam martundi but dharmam maradu.


I think reverse is true. Satyam never changes, Dharma changes according to time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO0yBqtOhj4

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Elcaminocapastrino:

em dharma dharma ani sava dhobbuthunnaru...reason adigithey dharma antaru....




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma
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em dharma dharma ani sava dhobbuthunnaru...reason adigithey dharma antaru....
OK..tough q for mythology experts..wat dharma was lord shiva following when he beheaded the kid ganes guarding parvathis palace?
If someone can justify rama deserting a pregnant sita in forest then they should also defend all the desi abusive husbands deserting their wives in US making them fend for themselves ,the news which we constantly in papers these days and boil our blood...ramudiki oka rule satish or sirish or ramesh ki ingo rule aa??
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Analog:

yadha raaja thatha praja type lo common man started misusing this....




ardam kaaledu .. following Ekapatnivratyam ni common man misuse chesadu antara?
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Ishan:

That was the King's dharma


Ramayanam lo ramud sesindi ade..dharmanam follow avvatam..satyam martundi but dharmam maradu.
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Kamal:

now .. the times were different in Tretayuga .. Polygamy was not a common practice, but a practice few people could afford - but even then they followed the dharma of a man towards his wife .. how many wives he had was not a matter .. when yugas changed .. society changed .. a man who had many wives .. could not do dharma to all equally .. hence the norm of accepting polygamy was abolished and society went into a huddle and accepted people only who are devoted and committed to a single wife .. you can now ask .. why did we know of people in 1940s who had multiple wives ? I say .. yes, they did have multiple wives .. but were they respected? again AFAIK .. NO is the answer .. ala iddaru, mugguru pellalu unna vaalla intlo ki mana intlo pilla ni istama? ivvam kada .. why .. simple reason .. thats not the dharma !




it is not just dasaradha....rajulu, chakravathulu multiple wifes ki vellindi not out of lust, but to save their kingdoms....pakka rajyam nunchi threat undi anukunnappudu they solved the issues by marrying enemy's daughters ......anduke ramudu yee vihsayam lo great ayyadu....oka chakravarthi alanti decision theesukotam aa times lo nijamga great thing!!

yadha raaja thatha praja type lo common man started misusing this....
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Mrhyderabad:

If you have already found an answer that suits you please share (for this act)... I/we will see if that works for me/us or not.


Forget about the answer that satisfied me, but classic explanation is that it was the duty of a king to put his people's words first, even if the subject was a drunkard he should not allow a blemish on his dynasty's reputation. That was the King's dharma those times and he followed it. This answer satisfied many people and lets see if it satisfies you.
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Mrhyderabad:

Btw, mana desam ni RAMA DESAM anakundaa BHARATA DESAM ani enduku pettaru?




confuse avutunnaru anukunta .. ee Bharatudu .. is not the one in Bharata Desam lo Bharata ..

long long ago .. even prior to Rama and Ramayana era .. the whole of India (Akhand Bharat or whatever you want to call ) .. was ruled by an emporer called "Bharata". ala vachindi name ..

Mrhyderabad:

Bcoz RAMA was the Hero and others were side actors



The real reason is .. Rama became the Hero because .. he followed "Dharma" religiously and became an example for man kind .. all the other 3, Lakshmana, Bharata and Satrughna have very minor negatives .. but not Rama .. adi asalu reason .. :-)
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Kamal:

even Bharata, Lakshmana and Satrugna limited themselves to a single wife (AFAIK) .. mari vaallaki enduku antha peru raaledu when compared to Rama?


Bcoz RAMA was the Hero and others were side actors

Btw, mana desam ni RAMA DESAM anakundaa BHARATA DESAM ani enduku pettaru?
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Analog:

dasarada has 3 wifes...




ofcourse he had .. but look at the circumstances under which he married three times ..

He married Kausalya first .. he bore no children with her .. then he married Sumitra .. again he had none !

In a war, when he was fatally injured, Kaikeyi rescues him and when he asks her how can he repay her acts .. she wants to get married .. and he treated them all very very fairly .. even then he had problems with progeny !!!

now .. the times were different in Tretayuga .. Polygamy was not a common practice, but a practice few people could afford - but even then they followed the dharma of a man towards his wife .. how many wives he had was not a matter .. when yugas changed .. society changed .. a man who had many wives .. could not do dharma to all equally .. hence the norm of accepting polygamy was abolished and society went into a huddle and accepted people only who are devoted and committed to a single wife .. you can now ask .. why did we know of people in 1940s who had multiple wives ? I say .. yes, they did have multiple wives .. but were they respected? again AFAIK .. NO is the answer .. ala iddaru, mugguru pellalu unna vaalla intlo ki mana intlo pilla ni istama? ivvam kada .. why .. simple reason .. thats not the dharma !

ika Ramudiki eka patni vratudu kabatti peru raavadam anedi tappu interpretation .. even Bharata, Lakshmana and Satrugna limited themselves to a single wife (AFAIK) .. mari vaallaki enduku antha peru raaledu when compared to Rama?
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Ishan:

There are no answers to some questions, and even if there are, they can not satisfy all because each mind is skewed to 'accept' a different answer. That's why nature is imperfect.




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Ishan:

they can not satisfy all because each mind is skewed to 'accept' a different answer.


If you have already found an answer that suits you please share (for this act)... I/we will see if that works for me/us or not.
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Analog:

kaliyugamlo



sorry tretayugam lo
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Kamal:

how did you guess?




dasarada has 3 wifes...kaliyugamlo ramudi eka pathnivrathaniki antha peru enduku vachindi??? because polygamy was a common practise...infact ramudu sithaki maata isthaadu...kshatriyulaki bahu bharyathavam saadaranam kaani nenu neekosam eka pathnivrathudiga undipotha ani....
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Oka tagubotu maata vini nindu choolalu ayina seetamma talli ni adavulaku pampadam lo ramudu YE DHARAMAM follow ayyadu or nilabettadu?


There are no answers to some questions, and even if there are, they can not satisfy all because each mind is skewed to 'accept' a different answer. That's why nature is imperfect.
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nenu emi oogipoyi post veyaledu bro... eppati nundi vunna doubt. Evaru ayina clarify chestharu emo ani adugutunna...
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Kamal:

how did you guess?




nuvvu undu ehees.. akkada guessing chestu unte.. disturb cheyaku..
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Mrhyderabad:

Oka tagubotu maata vini nindu choolalu ayina seetamma talli ni adavulaku pampadam lo ramudu YE DHARAMAM follow ayyadu or nilabettadu?

(And on top of that, RAM very well knows the purity of Sita.)




mama nuvvu anavasaranga time waste chesukuntunnavu..
ikkada db janam ki nee q's ki ans chese anta scene ledu..
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Analog:

in those days polygamy was a common practise i guess...




how did you guess?
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Ishan:

Its impossible to follow dharma without hurting others/himself/dear to himself.


Oka tagubotu maata vini nindu choolalu ayina seetamma talli ni adavulaku pampadam lo ramudu YE DHARAMAM follow ayyadu or nilabettadu?

(And on top of that, RAM very well knows the purity of Sita.)
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Getafix:

appudu ramudu, seetha lekunda padina baadhalu telsi ochevi aa drunkards ki.




in those days polygamy was a common practise i guess...ramudu ante eka pathnivrathudu kabatti baadhalu paddaadu
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Mrhyderabad:

What if all other drunkards in rama rajyam take his path and throw their wives in to the streets?



appudu ramudu, seetha lekunda padina baadhalu telsi ochevi aa drunkards ki.
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Mrhyderabad:

Mari alantappudu RAM ni aa kaalam lo role model ante OK kaani, ee kaalam lo kuda alaage anaali ante elaa?



nee q's ki atleast naa daggara ans levu.. anduke nuvvu katti/topu/turam
annadi..
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Getafix:

Ram respected freedom of speech brother..


Ok.. but then as a responsible leader he should also advise the illiterate drunkard that his views/suspicions are not correct, right?

What if all other drunkards in rama rajyam take his path and throw their wives in to the streets?
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Ishan:

Nothing in this nature is perfect, because the design of nature it-self is like that. Nature it-self is imperfect. That is perfect can not be inside the nature and that's why it is always beyond it. When it tries to restrict itself in nature, it will become imperfect. Its impossible to follow dharma without hurting others/himself/dear to himself. Rama's story is an example of this.




I would like to replace perfect with imperfect and imperfect with perfect .. I arrive at what I believe in .. yours is such a "perfect" statement ! :D
Ekam sat, Vipra bahuda vadanti :-)
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Mrhyderabad:


If RAMA wants to stand as a role model for his country men then he shouldn't have done that.

Oka drunkard full gaa mandu kotti edo vaagi vaadi wife ni suspect chesi... Sita character meeda abhiyogam vesthe... as a KING em cheyali?

Aa drunkard ni pilichi 4 peeki, ilaa full mandu kotti wife ni suspect cheyadam correct kaadu ani ante super vundedi. Anthe kaani vaadu edo annadu ani agni pravesam kuda chesina sita ni malli forests ki pampadam enti non-sense...

Pellam meeda doubt vunna vaallu antha vaallani intlo nundi tarimeyali... veelu ayithe forests lo vadileyali ani message ichinattu kadaa public ki.

Hey Ram!! What have you done?




well said..ide nenu adigithe ikkada janalu chetha questions annaru :-(
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Mrhyderabad:

If RAMA wants to stand as a role model for his country men then he shouldn't have done that.

Oka drunkard full gaa mandu kotti edo vaagi vaadi wife ni suspect chesi... Sita character meeda abhiyogam vesthe... as a KING em cheyali?

Aa drunkard ni pilichi 4 peeki, ilaa full mandu kotti wife ni suspect cheyadam correct kaadu ani ante super vundedi. Anthe kaani vaadu edo annadu ani agni pravesam kuda chesina sita ni malli forests ki pampadam enti non-sense...

Pellam meeda doubt vunna vaallu antha vaallani intlo nundi tarimeyali... veelu ayithe forests lo vadileyali ani message ichinattu kadaa public ki.

Hey Ram!! What have you done?


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Nothing in this nature is perfect, because the design of nature it-self is like that. Nature it-self is imperfect. That is perfect can not be inside the nature and that's why it is always beyond it. When it tries to restrict itself in nature, it will become imperfect. Its impossible to follow dharma without hurting others/himself/dear to himself. Rama's story is an example of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO0yBqtOhj4

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Mrhyderabad:

Aa drunkard ni pilichi 4 peeki, ilaa full mandu kotti wife ni suspect cheyadam correct kaadu ani ante super vundedi. Anthe kaani vaadu edo annadu ani agni pravesam kuda chesina sita ni malli forests ki pampadam enti non-sense...

Pellam meeda doubt vunna vaallu antha vaallani intlo nundi tarimeyali... veelu ayithe forests lo vadileyali ani message ichinattu kadaa public ki.

Hey Ram!! What have you done?




Ram respected freedom of speech brother..cmon major liberal voice nuvvu ee db ki and you talking like Modi? hehehehe
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Bunty717:

mama some thousaands of yrs back ..ippatilaga situation deal cheyali antunnavu chudu... nuvvu katti/topu/turam ..


Mari alantappudu RAM ni aa kaalam lo role model ante OK kaani, ee kaalam lo kuda alaage anaali ante elaa?
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Cocanada:

Rama asked Site to go all-in because he knew she had Royal Flush




Poker kaasta ekkuva gaa adutunnatunnaru meeru? :-)
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Mrhyderabad:

Aa drunkard ni pilichi 4 peeki, ilaa full mandu kotti wife ni suspect cheyadam correct kaadu ani ante super vundedi. Anthe kaani vaadu edo annadu ani agni pravesam kuda chesina sita ni malli forests ki pampadam enti non-sense...




mama some thousaands of yrs back ..ippatilaga situation deal cheyali antunnavu
chudu... nuvvu katti/topu/turam ..



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Elcaminocapastrino:

1) Sitas Agni pravesam to prove she was untouched by rawan

.... dont u think this is barbaric to let a woman to go through this




If RAMA wants to stand as a role model for his country men then he shouldn't have done that.

Oka drunkard full gaa mandu kotti edo vaagi vaadi wife ni suspect chesi... Sita character meeda abhiyogam vesthe... as a KING em cheyali?

Aa drunkard ni pilichi 4 peeki, ilaa full mandu kotti wife ni suspect cheyadam correct kaadu ani ante super vundedi. Anthe kaani vaadu edo annadu ani agni pravesam kuda chesina sita ni malli forests ki pampadam enti non-sense...

Pellam meeda doubt vunna vaallu antha vaallani intlo nundi tarimeyali... veelu ayithe forests lo vadileyali ani message ichinattu kadaa public ki.

Hey Ram!! What have you done?
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elca bro,

can you also elaborate on why do you feel those acts are wrong?
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Jp_rocks:

are funny coz no one takes the incidents literally.....ramayana and its characters are just symbolic to various shades of relationships


Dude...when u watch a movie and when u disco about it then the movie is a sucess when u start questioning the acts of the characters....devdas was hit cause people questioned the self destructive nature of devdas..some people defend it n somepeople are against it..and they give the reasons..and devdas is a fictional character and it never happened.....u take this also in the same sense annattu...
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Elcaminocapastrino:


elca tamud, raathri office lo work chesi day time db lo janaalki exams pedthaavendhuku?
Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu.
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Rama asked Site to go all-in because he knew she had Royal Flush

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Andhamaina powerful hero comedy ki nenu fan ni
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Jp_rocks:

ramayana and its characters are just symbolic to various shades of relationships..


perfectly said...
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Elcaminocapastrino:

Healthy discos please...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO0yBqtOhj4

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Thelegend:

you think it did not happen for real?


i have no idea bro...personally i have trouble accepting the fact that it happened for real..when some guy wrote the story hundreds of years later..

having said that, i know that it is one of the most sacred books to our hindus..so i would be hurting most of their feelings if i made a mockery outta it..anduke i am just sitting back and watching the scrutinies of these liberals :-)

Elcaminocapastrino:

...i used the court example


i did not see the court example bro..that was just a slap on the butt.....anthe nothing more..

your questions to the author of ramayana are funny coz no one takes the incidents literally.....ramayana and its characters are just symbolic to various shades of relationships..
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Sureedu:

ramayanam meedha manchi pattu vundhi la neeku


naaku bits n pieces of ramanand sagar ramayan n rama raos lava kusha thappithey inga emi theldhu ramayan gurinchi...andhukey asking others to justify these acts....
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Elcaminocapastrino:

1) Sitas Agni pravesam to prove she was untouched by rawan




ee vishayam meedha maa friend tho full argument oka roju, vaadu naa tho agreed actually first day... next day valla parents tho maatladi "prathi daniki oka good reason vuntadi" manaki ardham kaledu anukovali ani cheppadu
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Jp_rocks:

babu elca mythology lo incidents tiskuni court ki elthanante ela??




Ramayanam ni MYTHology ante chala mandiki kopam vastadi... you think it did not happen for real?
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babu elca mythology lo incidents tiskuni court ki elthanante ela??


mis quote seyyaku boss...i used the court example just to let u know how its dealt in a current society....just to give an indight into the cases of obsessive characters annattu...topic divert seyyak...ardham kaakapothey adugu...i will explain again....
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Kingaa_bongaa:

surpanakka getting rid of someone OK, laxman cutting ears not OK? what yaaa?


KB kurrollani confuse seyyaku...I used those movies as examples cause if the hero or heros brother in the movie acts in the same way like laxman n chops nose n ears of urmila or glen close then would the audience accept it??? adhey laxman sesthey they accepted....andhukani i used movie example annattu...no iam not ok with surpanaka gettin rid of someone...iam just questioning the punishment anthey....
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babu elca mythology lo incidents tiskuni court ki elthanante ela??
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elca,


ramayanam meedha manchi pattu vundhi la neeku
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Elcaminocapastrino:

Here is a girl who was obsessed with Rama...Just like urmila from pyar tune kya kiya or a glen close from Fatal attraction....and when you are obsessed then obviously you would hate the person who is stealing ur lovers attention so you would want to get rid of them....


surpanakka getting rid of someone OK, laxman cutting ears not OK? what yaaa?
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Debatable act 3) Deserting a heavily pregnant sita in forest

this is too much....lets say rama is following the dharma as per the ancient era....but we have human beings like gurajada apparao who stood against the superficial practices n challenged the society n even bought a change to it...
Why Rama couldnt achieve that n avoided deserting sita n he aint even a human...he is god???
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Elcaminocapastrino:




ok #3 for you: so ravana came and abducted rama's wife. why did not rama go to a legal court and initiate proceedings. why did he have to attack ravana?

endhannai nee kochensuu :D
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mythology babu, aa rojullo aa standards undevemo. what's the big deal? ee rojula standards ki marchaali story ni. that rama to prove that he has not been to any strip clubs, also went into fire with seetha ani. set.
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Debatable act 2) Laxman Chopping the ears and nose of surpanaka....

Here is a girl who was obsessed with Rama...Just like urmila from pyar tune kya kiya or a glen close from Fatal attraction....and when you are obsessed then obviously you would hate the person who is stealing ur lovers attention so you would want to get rid of them....in normal world people approach court n get retraining orders and if it doesnt work then if the obsessed attacks then he or she can be killed as an act of self defense....

But in Ramayan Laxman choses to chop the nose and ears of surpanaka .... dis figure her face n on top of that wont kill her....
How many of think this violent act is justified???
If u justify it would u justify the punishments in shariya law too?
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1) Sitas Agni pravesam to prove she was untouched by rawan

.... dont u think this is barbaric to let a woman to go through this when she was abducted with no fault of her n already went through an year of seperation n agaony of imprisonment....even if she was touched then wats wrong in accepting her back if the guy really loved her.....if sita is a human wont she got burned to ashes if she goes through those flames...

and what is the message the author is trying to convey to readers???

Healthy discos please...

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