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Dts
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Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 01:51 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

First of all compulsory voting is stupidity without negative voting. Secondly, what makes one to think that those are not voting see these contestants as their representatives but just don't vote? If somebody is my representative and desperately wants to do good to me then I will vote not only that I will see that all of my near and dear vote him. But can you show me one contestant who is eligible to represent me? You cannot judge who's my representative, because a person himself/herself knows who best represents him/her. If it is NONE then there is not need to vote to as NONE. Its understood. What would you do if NONE gets majority? What more you would do, we are seeing now that with 37% percent vote share parties are ruling, if you make compulsory voting lets say 40% vote NONE, then what's your approach? Nothing? If you could do something do it now. Almost 50% of people did not vote on an average. Don't force them to vote just to increase your vote percentage. Consider that as NONE and do whatever you geniuses want to do.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 12:03 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Dts:

How can you force people to vote you despite their dislike towards you? It is like Prakash Raj in OkkaDu forcing heroin to say "I love you". How can a villain expects love from heroin? Similarly how can political villains expect vote from public. If they have credibility they will get votes. People are not voting you because they hate you! That's all! Do these political people understand the meaning of the word HATE?




Do you understand the meaning of the word NONE? None is an option, for people who HATE to vote for any idiot in the fray ! That's all!
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 11:37 am:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Dts:

How can you force people to vote you despite their dislike towards you?




Force is necessary because we are getting a voting percentage around 50% these days. Like we are forcing driving laws, this is necessary for greater good of democracy. You can show your anger in the contestants by voting to 'None'. We can later tackle that issue.
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Dts:

Compulsory voting enTiraa babu? idhi democracy aa demo-atrocity aa?

How can you force people to vote you despite their dislike towards you? It is like Prakash Raj in OkkaDu forcing heroin to say "I love you". How can a villain expects love from heroin? Similarly how can political villains expect vote from public. If they have credibility they will get votes. People are not voting you because they hate you! That's all! Do these political people understand the meaning of the word HATE?


more than hatred towards the current day politicians, it is the sheer APATHY of ppl who are not voting......if they hate all the contestants, they can choose 'none' while voting..

this is a great move by MODI

mana barre janalaki ilantivi pedite kani kadalaru..
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Compulsory voting enTiraa babu? idhi democracy aa demo-atrocity aa?

How can you force people to vote you despite their dislike towards you? It is like Prakash Raj in OkkaDu forcing heroin to say "I love you". How can a villain expects love from heroin? Similarly how can political villains expect vote from public. If they have credibility they will get votes. People are not voting you because they hate you! That's all! Do these political people understand the meaning of the word HATE?
కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను!
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Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 10:11 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

wow .. repu chaduvukunta ! :-)
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Reserch paper on effects of compulsory voting on income distribution

http://www.iadb.org/res/publications/pubfiles/pubWP-533.pdf
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sunday-telegraph/a-pm- cloaked-in-many-disguises/story-e6frewt0-1225815486342
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http://www.bangaloremirror.com/article/36/201001102010011018 2755368716128a8/Not-a-democracy-by-force.html

N Vittal
Posted On Sunday, January 10, 2010 at 06:27:55 PM

Narendra Modi, Chief Minister of Gujarat, has taken a radical step with immense potential to weed out money power, muscle power and vote-bank politics, and make a more credible version of democracy. He has initiated a bill in Gujarat State Assembly to make voting mandatory for the elections to local bodies.

Although this is the first time that such a legislation has been introduced, 32 countries in the world already have laws making voting compulsory.

Critics have already started pouncing on Modiâs initiative, describing it as democracy by force. What about the freedom of choice for voters in exercising their right? For some critics, the step reminds them of totalitarian regimes.

Above all, a critically important question has also been raised. How will the law be implemented?

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. The effectiveness of a law depends on its implementation. A law only on paper is like a scarecrow. The birds it is meant to scare may initially be afraid. Yet, once they know it is a lifeless doll, they build their nest in it.

Nevertheless, a closer analysis will show that Modi has introduced a radical element in our electoral process, which has the potential to make our democracy more meaningful.

We can analyse the realities of the way democracy is practised in our country today:

i) Democracy is famously defined as the government of the people, by the people and for the people. We have adopted the British system of elections, where the principle of âthe first past the postâ applies to decide the winner. This has perpetuated a pseudo-democracy, as the winning candidate or parties hardly ever get more than 50 per cent of the votes polled. And, definitely always less than the total number of voters in a constituency. To use an American expression, the winning candidates in our elections have a plurality of the votes polled and never a majority.

ii) This main defect of our electoral system is that it has led to vote bank politics based on money power and muscle power. The 2009 general elections were brazenly influenced by money power as the former Chief Election Commissioner conceded. He stated that the Election Commission could hardly contain the deployment of money power even though it could control violence and electoral malpractices such as booth capturing quite effectively.

iii) Caste-based vote-bank politics is the legacy of our social values. This makes voters support a member of their caste, community or religion above the needs for good governance.

iv) The strong identity of the minorities with their religion motivates them to vote as a block. Many political parties cultivate them as they play a decisive role in many constituencies.

In one masterstroke, the initiative of the Gujarat Chief Minister opens the door for a move away from money power, muscle power and identity politics.

Once the law is effectively implemented, at least 95 per cent or more of the voters will vote. This will reduce the critically decisive role of caste- and religion-based vote banks in influencing the results. In any case, the law will strengthen the hands of activists such as those behind the âJaago reâ campaign in the 2009 elections to educate the voters.

However, there is a big if. We do not know the penalty for failing to vote and its effective implementation. Unless there is a strong deterrent, money power can still be used to ensure the absence of voters. This is nothing new. The minority government of P V Narasimha Rao and the UPA government allegedly resorted to money power to win crucial trust votes.

It is an urgent national need to learn from the countries where voting is compulsory, and adapt the best practices to effectively implement the law for mandatory voting.

(In the last decade, N Vittal, the former CVC, emerged as the voice of our collective conscience. This is his weekly take on public life in India)

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