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Kamal:

avunaa .. thu .. oka sikh maatladaalsina maatalena avi .. siggu leni janma ..




1996 elections lo poti chesi vijay kumar malhotra meedha odi poyaadu new delhi seat lo...aa election campaign lo koosadu...pedha jittula mari nakka candidate....typical bureacrat babu
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sikh riots ki RSS responsible annadu election campaign lo...




avunaa .. thu .. oka sikh maatladaalsina maatalena avi .. siggu leni janma ..

Delhi and Punjab lo .. almost .. 25,000 sikhs ni save chesaaru RSS and BJP ani .. atheist Kushwanth Singh .. who is a hater of BJP and RSS cheppadu .. (hater anedi chaala chinna padam .. for the way he criticizes Sangh parivar otherwise) !
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donno .. but .. death bed meeda hospital lo unnappudu .. govt taraphuna choodadaniki vellindi .. MMS matrame .. I do not think .. he attended .. PVNR's last rites in Hyd .. I thought .. MMS will announce a national memorial for PVNR in Delhi ! but I never knew .. MMS is that spineless .. he could not even pay back his "guru dakshina" for PVNR .. that is the start of me loosing respect for MMS .. aa taravata PM ga chaala chendalam ayyindi .. and his high-standing was never the same !




media manaki kaburlu cheptundhi kaani...MMS pakka selfish candidate...sikh riots ki RSS responsible annadu election campaign lo...vaadi kooturu overseas eduaction ki scholorship oka pakistani based bank nunchi vachindhi ani antaaru
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did MMS meet PVNR after 2004 elections -
i mean after MMS becoming a PM....



donno .. but .. death bed meeda hospital lo unnappudu .. govt taraphuna choodadaniki vellindi .. MMS matrame .. I do not think .. he attended .. PVNR's last rites in Hyd .. I thought .. MMS will announce a national memorial for PVNR in Delhi ! but I never knew .. MMS is that spineless .. he could not even pay back his "guru dakshina" for PVNR .. that is the start of me loosing respect for MMS .. aa taravata PM ga chaala chendalam ayyindi .. and his high-standing was never the same !
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Tpg:

did MMS meet PVNR after 2004 elections -
i mean after MMS becoming a PM....


Naaku telisi PVNR lift icchina vaalla lo... oke okka Maninder Singh Bitta (Some Youth Congress President chesinattu unnadu ithanu) ni last days lo kooda frequent ga kalavadam choosa. Chaala loyal ga undevaadu.... papam athani political career ni panam ga petti High Command interests ki against ga PVNR venta unnadu last days lo kooda.

Papam PVNR antha chesina for some reason Congress High Command chaala chaala neglect chesindi. I feel bad for him.
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mana vadu pustakaalu, america, world bank, IMF ivi entha chebithe antha...pakka bureacrat type...original thinking takkuva
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Kamal:

maa Right wing ki daivaalu vaallu .. :D well respected .. Nehru taram lo !


Aalla combo meeda edanna info unte email sesuko Cylone.Subbarao at

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did MMS meet PVNR after 2004 elections -
i mean after MMS becoming a PM....
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Cylonesubbarao:

Ee combo naaku teldu. First time intunna.




maa Right wing ki daivaalu vaallu .. :D well respected .. Nehru taram lo !
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Vjavasi:

but his only bad choice is MMS



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.but his only bad choice is MMS




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PVNR economic, diplomatic issues ni baga handle chesaadu...but his only bad choice is MMS
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Kamal:

Syama Prasad - Pandit Deen Dayal


Ee combo naaku teldu. First time intunna.
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Cylonesubbarao:

When it doesnâ??t go wrong, it doesnâ??t make news. Thatâ??s the whole story.



very true .. ! cheppakane cheppadam ante ide .. :D

Cylonesubbarao:

Our philosophers have said it. Modern philosophers have said that time is always in a flux.




super !
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Kamal:

Atal-Advani furthered that changing economic face of the nation !


Cannot agree more... ye VP Singh o Mulayam Singh o vacchunte... total screw up sesetollu.
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My picks .. Syama Prasad - Pandit Deen Dayal, Atal - Advani, PVNR - MMS !

2 teams changed the social face of the nation .. one team changed the economic face of the nation .. fortunately .. Atal-Advani furthered that changing economic face of the nation !
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Do you remember some moments that were particularly trying, when you had to think hard — shall we do it, shall we not do it?
Well, if you really go into the nitty gritty every question has two sides. You have to balance them. This madhya marg has come down to us from Buddha and was very well adopted by Panditji. That is something which has saved us from extremes, from crisis after crisis, from various matters not having gone wrong. When it doesn’t go wrong, it doesn’t make news. That’s the whole story.

When you carried out this reform... and I like that expression, ‘‘making a U-turn, without making a U-turn and presuming that the ground under you is moving’’... Very Narasimha Rao-like. Did you...
You don’t agree?

I agree with you. In fact I am...
It doesn’t have to be my authorship. I don’t have to claim any copyright. This is what it is... Our philosophers have said it. Modern philosophers have said that time is always in a flux.
We have seen so many moments since you came. Can you bring one moment back? You cannot, therefore it is a dynamic situation. It is a changing situation. It is a different thing that the naked eye doesn’t look at it.
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Kamal:

PVNR - MMS




best combo proven for country
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Cylonesubbarao:

laboring a change is more painful than anything else.


Add to it... Political ga kooda vaallaki aa time lo majority ledhu.
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Kamal:

PVNR - MMS


Thats my choice... they balanced every sector. Negative nundi Positive side ki shift chesaaru.... in PV's words... laboring a change is more painful than anything else.
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Naaku ardham ayyindi... and one reason may be I'm for Congress andhuke nacchundocchu.




hehe .. cool rao garu ..

Cylonesubbarao:

So this was kind of, you know, teamwork.




ok .. now that Mr. Rao mentioned about team work .. I would like to ask people .. of the best teams they have seen in Indian politics ..

like .. Gandhi-Nehru, Gandhi-Patel, Patel-Nehru, Gandhi-Jinnah, Nehru-Shastri,
Indira-Kamaraj, Indira-Chawan, Syama Prasad - Pandit Deen Dayal, Jyothi Basu - Buddadeb, Jyothi Basu - Somnath Chatterjee, Atal - Advani, Advani - Joshi, Rajiv - PVNR - VP Singh, PVNR - MMS, Sonia - MMS - Pranab - Rahul, NTR - Babu, MGR - Jaya, Karat - Yechury etc ..

almost all teams ni cover chesa anukunta .. pick your choices .. !
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Kamal:

Donno if I conveyed what I wanted ..


Naaku ardham ayyindi... and one reason may be I'm for Congress andhuke nacchundocchu.
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When you managed this change, shift, U-turn without taking a U-turn... Did you deal with many doubts?
No, I don’t think I managed this. It was an objective situation which had its own impact and own momentum. Dr Manmohan Singh tried his very best to push it forward, behind him I stood like a rock. To give him political support through thick and thin. So this was kind of, you know, teamwork.

In fact, when Dr Manmohan Singh appeared on this show. He described how he quietly devalued the rupee, he went to the RBI Governor because you had not got the vote of confidence. And, in fact, you told him that if it goes alright it’s fine, if it goes wrong, then you may pay for it with your job.
No, I didn’t quite tell him that. We may all have had to pay for it. Because it is not just the finance minister, it’s the duo. The prime minister giving him the political wherewithal, the armour which he needs. And the finance minister being an expert in the job in which I don’t interfere. Unless I find that there will be something like a backlash. Then, of course, I have to warn him and he takes... consideration of that warning.

When you pulled him back on the question of subsidies.
Quite right. I encouraged him when I found him diffident. Many people attacked him, I said attack me. Don’t attack him, he’s not a politician. Let him do his job. So there is a question of managing people.

In fact, that’s the interesting thing. Reform was done by two people. One of whom was a politician, not an economist and the other was an economist and not a politician.
It’s just like cricket, you know. One player keeps one side going, not scoring too much.

So in this case who was keeping the end and who was scoring?
I was keeping the end because it is the political end which has to be taken care of in order to enable the other man to do his best ... And I think he (Dr Singh) has done his best.

malli inko saari whistle... look at the words he chose to answer.... he has good sense of humor
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Kamal:

but his officers in the govt ..




read as .. by his officers

Cylonesubbarao:

Of reform?
The white-collar people never ask me about the human face. They say they are very happy because there is a change, there is an increase, their incomes are increasing. Good, it is good so far as it goes. What happens to the next man? That is my concern.

Right.
There are people left behind. Maybe his own cousin, maybe his own nephews back home in the village. So what does he think about them and what does he think about their future? These are the thing which need to be inculcated.
Nation is not just one section, nation is a whole. Most of my past 30 years I have been in Delhi, but can I ever forget where I came from? Where I was born? Can I ignore what happens in Vangara?




good ones !
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Cylonesubbarao:

Endhuko for some reason ee interview baaga nacchesindi.... peddayana maatalu... aa wit... hats off PV Saab!




Hmm .. I do not know .. if you have read his "The Insider" or not .. or for that matter .. numerous articles of his .. that he penned in isolation and away from public gaze .. alage .. there are articles about him and his role and actions .. but his officers in the govt .. those are the best to me ..

these interviews are more of Mr. Rao speaking as a congressmen .. he avoids being brutally honest, which he otherwise does often !

Cylonesubbarao:

So what is your essential difference with the claim that India is now shining and that it has never done so since Independence? Because itâ??s now being said: five years versus 50 years of Congress rule...
Shekhar, did I not tell you that this is a very inappropriate time for your interview?

No time is more appropriate than the eve of an election.
This is where we agree to differ. You see there is much more I could have said if it had not been election time.

But you are a Congressman, why should you not speak on the eve of elections?
Then I will be part of the campaign. I had better go to the Ramlila Grounds than talk to you.

Everything is a campaign. What use is a silent Congressman?
(When) you make a point in a public place, that point is overmade sometimes. I donâ??t want to do that. But I am talking to you. I want to talk as accurately as I can because that is what I think I should do to a serious journalist. When Iâ??m talking to my constituents, I tend to exaggerate my achievements.




This is the example of him being conscious of the fact that he is a Congressman .. Had he chose to speak about the same things to some of his officers .. or pen down an article .. I am sure, Rao would choose to express them differently and probably a tad more honestly ! But since Rao is a good phyche .. he understands what to speak and when to speak .. and so this interview is good when u see it from the side of a Congressman .. but if you are more of a person like me .. who otherwise hates Congress .. but likes few good men like Rao, MMS .. then you like their core .. which they are allowed to express only privately ! Donno if I conveyed what I wanted .. anyways .. good interview in a perspective !
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Tell me, maybe you worried about social security, unemployment?
Yes, of course. We talked about the human face. You never asked me about the human face. People never ask me about the human face.

Of reform?
The white-collar people never ask me about the human face. They say they are very happy because there is a change, there is an increase, their incomes are increasing. Good, it is good so far as it goes. What happens to the next man? That is my concern.

Right.
There are people left behind. Maybe his own cousin, maybe his own nephews back home in the village. So what does he think about them and what does he think about their future? These are the thing which need to be inculcated.
Nation is not just one section, nation is a whole. Most of my past 30 years I have been in Delhi, but can I ever forget where I came from? Where I was born? Can I ignore what happens in Vangara?



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So how does one make a U-turn without making a U-turn? That�s a special Narasimha Rao art.
It�s not like that. If you understand that where you are standing is itself in motion.




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Kamal:

Rao at his philosophical best !


Endhuko for some reason ee interview baaga nacchesindi.... peddayana maatalu... aa wit... hats off PV Saab!
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Cylonesubbarao:

You cannot afford u-turns in this country.




true .. very true ! change is rigid when it comes to Indian society !

Cylonesubbarao:

So how does one make a U-turn without making a U-turn? Thatâ??s a special Narasimha Rao art.
Itâ??s not like that. If you understand that where you are standing is itself in motion...




Rao at his philosophical best !
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You were a lifelong socialist or you were brought up in a Nehruvian sort of milieu. When did you conclude that: look this has to change, the world has changed. Was it in the first couple of weeks, was it in a chat with Dr Manmohan Singh?
You see Nehru was the person who said something about not being Nehruiite. Gandhi was the person who said very strongly that ‘I am not a Gandhiite’. This becoming ‘iite’ (means) becomes something frozen. Gandhi was never static. Nor was Nehru. Why did Nehru leave the whole of agriculture in the private sector? Not many people realise it.

And not go the way of either Lenin or Ben Gurion.
You are right. So he said it in so many words that if you are talking of socialism... it’s not being imported, it’s being evolved under our own conditions. So that should suffice as a permanent answer in favour of what Nehru really wanted to do. And what we were trying to do in that spirit.

So for you it was not such a big instinctive shift. It was not like Deng Xiaoping changing the Chinese economy.
Not for me. You have to read my presidential speech at (the AICC in) Tirupati in 1992... I traced from Nehru to what I was doing and no one could say that it was a sudden shift. You cannot afford u-turns in this country.

So how does one make a U-turn without making a U-turn? That’s a special Narasimha Rao art.
It’s not like that. If you understand that where you are standing is itself in motion...

That’s a clever way of putting it.
... The turning becomes easier. You are not static. That’s what I just told you.

So you had no feeling that you were leaving something behind?
Well, I did feel that. I thought we were growing up. You cannot possibly make do with the clothes that you wore 50 years back.

But did you have some self-doubts while doing this?
In a new field like this, you are never sure. Only a foolish man can be too sure of himself. So one has to be looking right, looking left, looking behind and looking before. And looking all the time for pitfalls. If you don’t do that particularly in the beginning stages of a change, then you will be in trouble.

So what were the pitfalls that you spotted and avoided?
I don’t think this interview is enough to cover all this.
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Cylonesubbarao:

Certainly a change is more difficult than accelerating a continuum.
That�s why it need not be laboured too much, because it�s obvious.


I mentioned this couple of times during PRP's campaing about 'Change'.

That's the most difficult part in a society. Oka format, lifestyle, oka System ki alavaatu padi... change thesthaanu ante... people were questioning PRP on each and every nitty gritty thing. One day or one election contest lo change expect cheyyadam anedi avivekam ani anukuntunna.
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But don’t exaggerate. Let me word this differently. You suggested to me in the past that what we are seeing today is perhaps chapter three in our history of reforms.
Sure.

And chapter three would not have come if chapters one and two had not been written. Now there is no controversy.
And there is also another thing... How did chapter one come? It came from 0. Maybe negative. So taking something from 50 to 100 is making it double. But if you take it from 0 to 1, how many times is it?

It’s infinite.
Infinite, and what it really entails is a complete U-turn without seeming to be a U-turn... So the question for you to consider is: which is more difficult?

Certainly a change is more difficult than accelerating a continuum.
That’s why it need not be laboured too much, because it’s obvious.

So tell me a little more about how this 0 to 1 or whatever movement came about. Take us back to to 1991, when you took over power and the challenge that faced you and persuaded you to change this.
Logically we had come up against a blank wall. There was nothing more to do. You had no money, you were going to become a defaulter within two weeks and you can imagine what it means for India to be a defaulter.
We have always been paying our installments of debt in advance. That has been our record. Once you become a defaulter your entire economy, your honour, your place in the comity of nations, everything goes haywire.
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So all this going on right now, the talk about Shining India, ‘feel good’, eight per cent growth — from your vantage point how do you look at it? Does it impress you, does it amuse you, does it irritate you?
No, why should it irritate me? I know when I need to be irritated. When someone says India is shining, then he goes on to say that he is the cause for it... There, of course, one will differ.

Right.
There is good rain. I’m a farmer, I have a good harvest. There is no need for me to feel sad, it’s all shining to me. But if you say you have brought the rain, then I differ. That’s all.

So what is your essential difference with the claim that India is now shining and that it has never done so since Independence? Because it’s now being said: five years versus 50 years of Congress rule...
Shekhar, did I not tell you that this is a very inappropriate time for your interview?

No time is more appropriate than the eve of an election.
This is where we agree to differ. You see there is much more I could have said if it had not been election time.

But you are a Congressman, why should you not speak on the eve of elections?
Then I will be part of the campaign. I had better go to the Ramlila Grounds than talk to you.

Everything is a campaign. What use is a silent Congressman?
(When) you make a point in a public place, that point is overmade sometimes. I don’t want to do that. But I am talking to you. I want to talk as accurately as I can because that is what I think I should do to a serious journalist. When I’m talking to my constituents, I tend to exaggerate my achievements.
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Iamim:

His directive was: "Let us register a trust with apolitical representatives and entrust them the task of constructing the temple. This way, we can ensure that no political party can exploit the issue."




With all due respects to Mr. Rao, his Chanakya Neethi failed in case of Ram Mandir !

Iamim:

We have to build the Ram temple at Ayodhya. They are campaigning that our government is creating hurdles. We have to rebut them," Rao was quoted as saying.




simply put .. in hindsight, those words are true !
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Rao was keen on building a Ram temple: Book
January 11, 2010 15:23 IST

Former prime minister P V Narasimha Rao was keen on building a Ram Mandir at Ayodhya, but his attempt derailed after losing the elections, a senior aide has claimed.

PVRK Prasad, a retired IAS officer who was a joint secretary in the prime minister's office (PMO) during Rao's period, has spilled the beans in a book, revealing how he was assigned the task of getting a trust registered to build the temple.

In the book "Asalu Emi Jarigindantey" (What Actually Happened) in Telugu whose English version is expected shortly, Prasad claims the late Rao wanted the temple built at the demolition site to deny any credit to the Sangh Parivar. He narrates the efforts made by Rao for two years after the mosque demolition on December 6, 1992 to build the temple through a non-political trust.

The author says Rao, however, took care to keep himself and the Congress government out of picture. Explaining the role he played to get the Ramalayam Trust formed and says the effort proved futile as the general elections took place and Rao lost the election.

"How can the BJP claim a patent on Ram? We can compete with the BJP but how can we compete with Ram?The Congress is secular, but we aren't atheists. We also worship Ram....We have to build the Ram temple at Ayodhya. They are campaigning that our government is creating hurdles. We have to rebut them," Rao was quoted as saying.

While assigning him the task of getting the Hindu religious leaders form a trust for the purpose, Prasad writes that Rao was quite clear that "under no circumstances should our strategy, my name and your name be revealed".

His directive was: "Let us register a trust with apolitical representatives and entrust them the task of constructing the temple. This way, we can ensure that no political party can exploit the issue."

Prasad claims Rao had even suggested names of the religious leaders who were to be included in the trust. He even suggested to include some such leaders who are part of the VHP-headed committee. That was how Udupi Pejavar Math chief Vishwarashwa Teertha Swami, who was closely associated with the VHP, was also roped in.

Rao "unofficially" summoned Kishore Kunal, an IPS officer of Bihar, to assist Prasad in talking to religious leaders in Ayodhya, Kashi and Prayag. He also asked Prasad to take help of the self-proclaimed godman Chandraswami.

"Finally, we managed to get the signatures of hundreds of religious leaders and registered it(trust). Unfortunately, it was the end of 1995 and Rao became busy with the polls," Prasad adds.
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good one .. :-)
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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One of the best interview I ever read. Naaku baaga nacchindi... be it his wit or quick responses. Eppudu express lo vacchindi. Eppati nundo oka saari post cheddamu ani anukunta unnanu... for some reason or the other kudaraledhu.

I will post it in parts.... questions in bold and answers from PV Saab in normal font.... look at his opening shots:

Former Prime Minister P V Narasimha Rao spoke to Shekhar Gupta, editor-in-chief of The Indian Express on beginning the process of reforms in 1991. And on why Indian politics is dominated by the past. Part I from the interview telecast on NDTV 24X7 ’s Walk the Talk:

My guest today is the insider who has been outside of action for far too long — former prime minister P V Narasimha Rao. It’s a rare occasion for somebody in the media to be chatting with you particularly on camera.
Equally rare to me

Well, at least your sense of humour has not been dented or faded by the rigours of being out of power.
No it has not been dented by being in power... After I went out of power, maybe it has come back.

Did you lose it a little bit when you were in power?
You have to lose it. When you are in power you have to lose many things in life.

Including your sense of humour?
Not wholly. But to some extent. You have to face realities. And when you are facing realities, it’s sometimes out of place to be humourous.
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