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The Magnitude of Muslim Atrocities
(Ghazanavi to Amir Timur)

The world famous historian, Will Durant has written in his Story of Civilisation that "the Mohammedan conquest of India was probably the bloodiest story in history".

India before the advent of Islamic imperialism was not exactly a zone of peace. There were plenty of wars fought by Hindu princes. But in all their wars, the Hindus had observed some time-honoured conventions sanctioned by the Sastras. The Brahmins and the Bhikshus were never molested. The cows were never killed. The temples were never touched. The chastity of women was never violated. The non-combatants were never killed or captured. A human habitation was never attacked unless it was a fort. The civil population was never plundered. War booty was an unknown item in the calculations of conquerors. The martial classes who clashed, mostly in open spaces, had a code of honor. Sacrifice of honor for victory or material gain was deemed as worse than death.

Islamic imperialism came with a different code--the Sunnah of the Prophet. It required its warriors to fall upon the helpless civil population after a decisive victory had been won on the battlefield. It required them to sack and burn down villages and towns after the defenders had died fighting or had fled. The cows, the Brahmins, and the Bhikshus invited their special attention in mass murders of non-combatants. The temples and monasteries were their special targets in an orgy of pillage and arson. Those whom they did not kill, they captured and sold as slaves. The magnitude of the booty looted even from the bodies of the dead, was a measure of the success of a military mission. And they did all this as mujahids (holy warriors) and ghazls (kafir-killers) in the service of Allah and his Last Prophet.

Hindus found it very hard to understand the psychology of this new invader. For the first time in their history, Hindus were witnessing a scene which was described by Kanhadade Prabandha (1456 AD) in the following words:

"The conquering army burnt villages, devastated the land, plundered people's wealth, took Brahmins and children and women of all classes captive, flogged with thongs of raw hide, carried a moving prison with it, and converted the prisoners into obsequious Turks."

That was written in remembrance of Alauddin Khalji's invasion of Gujarat in the year l298 AD. But the gruesome game had started three centuries earlier when Mahmud Ghaznavi had vowed to invade India every year in order to destroy idolatry, kill the kafirs, capture prisoners of war, and plunder vast wealth for which India was well-known.

MAHMUD AND MASOOD GHAZNAVI

In 1000 AD Mahmud defeated Raja Jaipal, a scion of the Hindu Shahiya dynasty of Kabul. This dynasty had been for long the doorkeeper of India in the Northwest. Mahmud collected 250,000 dinars as indemnity. That perhaps was normal business of an empire builder. But in 1004 AD he stormed Bhatiya and plundered the place. He stayed there for some time to convert the Hindus to Islam with the help of mullahs he had brought with him.

In 1008 AD he captured Nagarkot (Kangra). The loot amounted to 70,000,000 dirhams in coins and 700,400 mans of gold and silver, besides plenty of precious stones and embroidered cloths. In 1011 AD he plundered Thanesar which was undefended, destroyed many temples, and broke a large number of idols. The chief idol, that of Chakraswamin, was taken to Ghazni and thrown into the public square for defilement under the feet of the faithful. According to Tarikh-i-Yamini of Utbi, Mahmud's secretary,

"The blood of the infidels flowed so copiously [at Thanesar] that the stream was discolored, notwithstanding its purity, and people were unable to drink it. The Sultan returned with plunder which is impossible to count. Praise he to Allah for the honor he bestows on Islam and Muslims."

In 1013 AD Mahmud advanced against Nandana where the Shahiya king, Anandapal, had established his new capital. The Hindus fought very hard but lost. Again, the temples were destroyed, and innocent citizens slaughtered. Utbi provides an account of the plunder and the prisoners of war:

"The Sultan returned in the rear of immense booty, and slaves were so plentiful that they became very cheap and men of respectability in their native land were degraded by becoming slaves of common shopkeepers. But this is the goodness of Allah, who bestows honor on his own religion and degrades infidelity."

The road was now clear for an assault on the heartland of Hindustan. In December 1018 AD Mahmud crossed the Yamuna, collected 1,000,000 dirhams from Baran (Bulandshahar), and marched to Mahaban in Mathura district. Utbi records:

"The infidels...deserted the fort and tried to cross the foaming river...but many of them were slain, taken or drowned... Nearly fifty thousand men were killed."

Mathura was the next victim. Mahmud seized five gold idols weighing 89,300 missals and 200 silver idols. According to Utbi, "The Sultan gave orders that all the temples should be burnt with naptha and fire, and levelled with the ground." The pillage of the city continued for 20 days. Mahmud now turned towards Kanauj which had been the seat of several Hindu dynasties. Utbi continues: "In Kanauj there were nearly ten thousand temples... Many of the inhabitants of the place fled in consequence of witnessing the fate of their deaf and dumb idols. Those who did not fly were put to death. The Sultan gave his soldiers leave to plunder and take prisoners."

The Brahmins of Munj, which was attacked next, fought to the last man after throwing their wives and children into fire. The fate of Asi was sealed when its ruler took fright and fled. According to Utbi, ".... the Sultan ordered that his five forts should be demolished from their foundations, the inhabitants buried in their ruins, and the soldiers of the garrison plundered, slain and captured".

Shrawa, the next important place to be invaded, met the same fate. Utbi concludes:

"The Muslims paid no regard to the booty till they had satiated themselves with the slaughter of the infidels and worshipers of sun and fire. The friends of Allah searched the bodies of the slain for three days in order to obtain booty...The booty amounted in gold and silver, rubies and pearls nearly to three hundred thousand dirhams, and the number of prisoners may be conceived from the fact that each was sold for two to ten dirhams. These were afterwards taken to Ghazni and merchants came from distant cities to purchase them, so that the countries of Mawaraun-Nahr, Iraq and Khurasan were filled with them, and the fair and the dark, the rich and the poor, were commingled in one common slavery."

Mahmud's sack of Somnath is too well-known to be retold here. What needs emphasizing is that the fragments of the famous Sivalinga were carried to Ghazni. Some of them were turned into steps of the Jama Masjid in that city. The rest were sent to Mecca, Medina, and Baghdad to be desecrated in the same manner.

Mahmud's son Masud tried to follow in the footsteps of his father. In 1037 AD he succeeded in sacking the fort of Hansi which was defended very bravely by the Hindus. The Tarikh-us-Subuktigin records: "The Brahmins and other high ranking men were slain, and their women and children were carried away captive, and all the treasure which was found was distributed among the army."

Masud could not repeat the performance due to his preoccupations elsewhere.

MUHAMMAD GHORI AND HIS LEUTENANTS

Invasion of India by Islamic imperialism was renewed by Muhmmad Ghori in the last quarter of the 12th century. After Prithiviraj Chauhan had been defeated in 1192 AD, Ghori took Ajmer by assault.

According the Taj-ul-Ma'sir of Hasan Nizami, "While the Sultan remained at Ajmer, he destroyed the pillars and foundations of the idol temples and built in their stead mosques and colleges and precepts of Islam, and the customs of the law were divulged and established."

Next year he defeated Jayachandra of Kanauj. A general massacre, rapine, and pillage followed. The Gahadvad treasuries at Asni and Varanasi were plundered. Hasan Nizami rejoices that "in Benares which is the centre of the country of Hind, they destroyed one thousand temples and raised mosques on their foundations".

According to Kamil-ut-Tawarikh of Ibn Asir, "The slaughter of Hindus (at Varanasi) was immense; none were spared except women and children, and the carnage of men went on until the earth was weary."

The women and children were spared so that they could be enslaved and sold all over the Islamic world. It may be added that the Buddhist complex at Sarnath was sacked at this time, and the Bhikshus were slaughtered.

Ghori's lieutenant Qutbuddin Aibak was also busy meanwhile. Hasan Nizami writes that after the suppression of a Hindu revolt at Kol (modern day Aligarh) in 1193 AD, Aibak raised "three bastions as high as heaven with their heads, and their carcases became food for beasts of prey. The tract was freed from idols and idol worship and the foundations of infidelism were destroyed."

In 1194 AD Aibak destroyed 27 Hindu temples at Delhi and built the Quwwat-ul-lslam mosque with their debris. According to Nizami, Aibak "adorned it with the stones and gold obtained from the temples which had been demolished by elephants".

In 1195 AD the Mher tribe of Ajmer rose in revolt, and the Chaulukyas of Gujarat came to their assistance. Aibak had to invite reinforcements from Ghazni before he could meet the challenge. In 1196 AD he advanced against Anahilwar Patan, the capital of Gujarat. Nizami writes that after Raja Karan was defeated and forced to flee, "fifty thousand infidels were dispatched to hell by the sword" and "more than twenty thousand slaves, and cattle beyond all calculation fell into the hands of the victors".

The city was sacked, its temples demolished, and its palaces plundered. On his return to Ajmer, Aibak destroyed the Sanskrit College of Visaladeva, and laid the foundations of a mosque which came to be known as 'Adhai Din ka Jhompada'.

Conquest of Kalinjar in 1202 AD was Aibak's crowning achievement. Nizami concludes: "The temples were converted into mosques... Fifty thousand men came under the collar of slavery and the plain became black as pitch with Hindus."

A free-lance adventurer, Muhammad Bakhtyar Khalji, was moving further east. In 1200 AD he sacked the undefended university town of Odantpuri in Bihar and massacred the Buddhist monks in the monasteries. In 1202 AD he took Nadiya by surprise. Badauni records in his Muntakhab-ut-Tawarikh that "property and booty beyond computation fell into the hands of the Muslims and Muhammad Bakhtyar having destroyed the places of worship and idol temples of the infidels founded mosques and Khanqahs".

THE SLAVE (MAMLUK) SULTANS

Shamsuddin Iltutmish who succeeded Aibak at Delhi invaded Malwa in 1234 AD. He destroyed an ancient temple at Vidisha. Badauni reports in his 'Muntakhab-ut-Tawarikh':

"Having destroyed the idol temple of Ujjain which had been built six hundred years previously, and was called Mahakal, he levelled it to its foundations, and threw down the image of Rai Vikramajit from whom the Hindus reckon their era, and brought certain images of cast molten brass and placed them on the ground in front of the doors of mosques of old Delhi, and ordered the people of trample them under foot."

Muslim power in India suffered a serious setback after Iltutmish. Balkan had to battle against a revival of Hindu power. The Katehar Rajputs of what came to be known as Rohilkhand in later history, had so far refused to submit to Islamic imperialism. Balkan led an expedition across the Ganges in 1254 AD. According to Badauni,

"In two days after leaving Delhi, he arrived in the midst of the territory of Katihar and put to death every male, even those of eight years of age, and bound the women."

But in spite of such wanton cruelty, Muslim power continued to decline till the Khaljis revived it after 1290 AD.

THE KHALJIS

Jalaluddin Khalji led an expedition to Ranthambhor in 1291 AD. On the way he destroyed Hindu temples at Chain. The broken idols were sent to Delhi to be spread before the gates of the Jama Masjid. His nephew Alauddin led an expedition to Vidisha in 1292 AD. According to Badauni in Muntakhab-ut-Tawarikh, Alauddin "brought much booty to the Sultan and the idol which was the object of worship of the Hindus, he caused to be cast in front of the Badaun gate to be trampled upon by the people. The services of Alauddin were highly appreciated, the jagir of Oudh (or Avadh - Central U.P.) also was added to his other estates."

Alauddin became Sultan in 1296 AD after murdering his uncle and father-in-law, Jalaluddin. In 1298 AD he equipped an expedition to Gujarat under his generals Ulugh Khan and Nusrat Khan. The invaders plundered the ports of Surat and Cambay. The temple of Somnath, which had been rebuilt by the Hindus, was plundered and the idol taken to Delhi for being trodden upon by the Muslims. The whole region was subjected to fire and sword, and Hindus were slaughtered en masse. Kampala Devi, the queen of Gujarat, was captured along with the royal treasury, brought to Delhi and forced into Alauddin's harem. The doings of the Malik Naib during his expedition to South India in 1310-1311 AD have already mentioned in earlier parts.

THE TUGHLAQS

Muslim power again suffered a setback after the death of Alauddin Khalji in 1316 AD. But it was soon revived by the Tughlaqs. By now most of the famous temples over the length and breadth of the Islamic occupation in India had been demolished, except in Orissa and Rajasthan which had retained their independence. By now most of the rich treasuries had been plundered and shared between the Islamic state and its swordsmen. Firuz Shah Tughlaq led an expedition to Orissa in 1360 AD. He destroyed the temple of Jagannath at Puri, and desecrated many other Hindu shrines. According to 'Sirat-i-Firoz Shahi' which he himself wrote or dictated,

"Allah who is the only true God and has no other emanation, endowed the king of Islam with the strength to destroy this ancient shrine on the eastern sea-coast and to plunge it into the sea, and after its destruction he ordered the image of Jagannath to be perforated, and disgraced it by casting it down on the ground. They dug out other idols which were worshipped by the polytheists in the kingdom of Jajnagar and overthrew them as they did the image of Jagannath, for being laid in front of the mosques along the path of the Sunnis and the way of the 'musallis' (Muslim congregation for namaz) and stretched them in front of the portals of every mosque, so that the body and sides of the images might be trampled at the time of ascent and descent, entrance and exit, by the shoes on the feet of the Muslims."

After the sack of the temples in Orissa, Firoz Shah Tughlaq attacked an island on the sea-coast where "nearly 100,000 men of Jajnagar had taken refuge with their women, children, kinsmen and relations". The swordsmen of Islam turned "the island into a basin of blood by the massacre of the unbelievers".

A worse fate overtook the Hindu women. Sirat-i-Firuz Shahs records: "Women with babies and pregnant ladies were haltered, manacled, fettered and enchained, and pressed as slaves into service in the house of every soldier."

Still more horrible scenes were enacted by Firuz Shah Tughlaq at Nagarkot (Kangra) where he sacked the shrine of Jvalamukhi. Firishta records that the Sultan "broke the idols of Jvalamukhi, mixed their fragments with the flesh of cows and hung them in nose bags round the necks of Brahmins. He sent the principal idol as trophy to Medina."

THE PROVINCIAL MUSLIM SATRAPS

In 1931 AD the Muslims of Gujarat complained to Nasiruddin Muhammad, the Tughlaq Sultan of Delhi, that the local governor, Kurhat-ul-Mulk, was practising tolerance towards the Hindus. The Sultan immediately appointed Muzzaffar Khan as the new Governor. He became independent after the death of the Delhi Sultan and assumed the title of Muzzaffar Shah in 1392 AD. Next year he led an expidition to Somnath and sacked the temple which the Hindus had built once again. He killed many Hindus to chastise them for this "impudence," and raised a mosque on the site of the ancient temple. The Hindus, however, restarted restoring the temple soon after. In 1401 AD Muzaffar came back with a huge army. He again killed many Hindus, demolished the temple once more, and erected another mosque.

Muzaffar was succeeded by his grandson, Ahmad Shah, in 1411 AD. Three years later Ahmad appointed a special darogah to destroy all temples throughout Gujarat. In 1415 AD Ahmad invaded Sidhpur where he destroyed the images in Rudramahalaya, and converted the grand temple into a mosque. Sidhpur was renamed Sayyadpur.

Mahmud Begrha who became the Sultan of Gujarat in 1458 AD was the worst fanatic of this dynasty. One of his vassals was the Mandalika of Junagadh who had never withheld the regular tribute. Yet in 1469 AD Mahmud invaded Junagadh. In reply to the Mandalika's protests, Mahmud said that he was not interested in money as much as in the spread of Islam. The Mandalika was forcibly converted to Islam and Junagadh was renamed Mustafabad. In 1472 AD Mahmud attacked Dwarka, destroyed the local temples, and plundered the city. Raja Jaya Singh, the ruler of Champaner, and his minister were murdered by Mahmud in cold blood for refusing to embrace Islam after they had been defeated and their country pillaged and plundered. Champaner was renamed Mahmudabad.

Mahmud Khalji of Malwa (1436-69 AD) also destroyed Hindu temples and built mosques on their sites. He heaped many more insults on the Hindus. Ilyas Shah of Bengal (1339-1379 AD) invaded Nepal and destroyed the temple of Svayambhunath at Kathmandu. He also invaded Orissa, demolished many temples, and plundered many places. The Bahmani sultans of Gulbarga and Bidar considered it meritorious to kill a hundred thousand Hindu men, women, and children every year. They demolished and desecrated temples all over South India.

AMlR TIMUR

The climax came during the invasion of Timur in 1399 AD. He starts by quoting the Quran in his Tuzk-i-Timuri: "O Prophet, make war upon the infidels and unbelievers, and treat them severely."

He continues: "My great object in invading Hindustan had been to wage a religious war against the infidel Hindus...[so that] the army of Islam might gain something by plundering the wealth and valuables of the Hindus." To start with he stormed the fort of Kator on the border of Kashmir. He ordered his soldiers "to kill all the men, to make prisoners of women and children, and to plunder and lay waste all their property". Next, he "directed towers to be built on the mountain of the skulls of those obstinate unbelievers". Soon after, he laid siege to Bhatnir defended by Rajputs. They surrendered after some fight, and were pardoned. But Islam did not bind Timur to keep his word given to the "unbelievers". His Tuzk-i-Timuri records:

"In a short space of time all the people in the fort were put to the sword, and in the course of one hour the heads of 10,000 infidels were cut off. The sword of Islam was washed in the blood of the infidels, and all the goods and effects, the treasure and the grain which for many a long year had been stored in the fort became the spoil of my soldiers. They set fire to the houses and reduced them to ashes, and they razed the buildings and the fort to the ground."

At Sarsuti, the next city to be sacked, "all these infidel Hindus were slain, their wives and children were made prisoners and their property and goods became the spoil of the victors". Timur was now moving through (modern day) Haryana, the land of the Jats. He directed his soldiers to "plunder and destroy and kill every one whom they met". And so the soldiers "plundered every village, killed the men, and carried a number of Hindu prisoners, both male and female".

Loni which was captured before he arrived at Delhi was predominantly a Hindu town. But some Muslim inhabitants were also taken prisoners. Timur ordered that "the Musulman prisoners should be separated and saved, but the infidels should all be dispatched to hell with the proselytizing sword".

By now Timur had captured 100,000 Hindus. As he prepared for battle against the Tughlaq army after crossing the Yamuna, his Amirs advised him "that on the great day of battle these 100,000 prisoners could not be left with the baggage, and that it would be entirely opposed to the rules of war to set these idolators and enemies of Islam at liberty". Therefore, "no other course remained but that of making them all food for the sword".

Tuzk-i-Timuri continues:

"I proclaimed throughout the camp that every man who had infidel prisoners should put them to death, and whoever neglected to do so should himself be executed and his property given to the informer. When this order became known to the ghazis of Islam, they drew their swords and put their prisoners to death. One hundred thousand infidels, impious idolators, were on that day slain. Maulana Nasiruddin Umar, a counselor and man of learning, who, in all his life, had never killed a sparrow, now, in execution of my order, slew with his sword fifteen idolatrous Hindus, who were his captives."

The Tughlaq army was defeated in the battle that ensued next day. Timur entered Delhi and learnt that a "great number of Hindus with their wives and children, and goods and valuables, had come into the city from all the country round".

He directed his soldiers to seize these Hindus and their property. Tuzk-i-Timuri concludes:

"Many of them (Hindus) drew their swords and resisted...The flames of strife were thus lighted and spread through the whole city from Jahanpanah and Siri to Old Delhi, burning up all it reached. The Hindus set fire to their houses with their own hands, burned their wives and children in them and rushed into the fight and were killed...On that day, Thursday, and all the night of Friday, nearly 15,000 Turks were engaged in slaying, plundering and destroying. When morning broke on Friday, all my army ...went off to the city and thought of nothing but killing, plundering and making prisoners....The following day, Saturday the 17th, all passed in the same way, and the spoil was so great.that each man secured from fifty to a hundred prisoners, men, women, and children. There was no man who took less than twenty. The other booty was immense in rubies, diamonds, garnets, pearls, and other gems and jewels; ashrafis, tankas of gold and silver of the celebrated Alai coinage: vessels of gold and silver; and brocades and silks of great value. Gold and silver ornaments of Hindu women were obtained in such quantities as to exceed all account. Excepting the quarter of the Saiyids, the Ulama and the other Musulmans, the whole city was sacked."
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annai..aa atricle link unte ivvavaaa..:-(




kinda pettina tammi link, 4 links lo first link ade.
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annai..aa atricle link unte ivvavaaa..:-(
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The preamble to the CPPCG states that instances of genocide have taken place throughout history,but it was not until Raphael Lemkin coined the term and the prosecution of perpetrators of the Holocaust at the Nuremberg trials that the United Nations agreed to the CPPCG which defined the crime of genocide under international law.
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However, later the Encyclopedia Britannica gives a negationist twist by adding that 'more likely the name is a corruption of Hindu-Koh meaning Hindu mountains'. This is unlikely, since the term Koh is used in its proper, uncorrupted form for the western portion of Hindu Kush, viz. Koh-i-Baba, for the region Swat Kohistan, and in the names of the three peaks of this range, viz. Koh-i-Langer, Koh-i-Bandakor, and Koh-i-Mondi. Thus to say that corruption of term Koh to Kush occurred only in case of Hindu Kush is merely an effort to fit in a deviant observation to a theory already proposed.


idi propaganda .. agenda ante .. western victorian secrets (ade le standards) ni bhujaala meeda mose rats andaru vachi deeni meeda matladandi !

Okahyderabadi:

IT IS SIGNIFICANT THAT ONE OF THE FEW PLACE NAMES ON EARTH THAT REMINDS US NOT OF THE VICTORY OF THE WINNERS BUT RATHER THE SLAUGHTER OF THE LOSERS, CONCERNS A GENOCIDE OF HINDUS BY THE MOSLEMS (13).



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Okahyderabadi:

Later on Encyclopedia Britannica mentions that the (secular?) Mughal emperor Akbar 'ordered the massacre of about 30,000 (captured) Rajput Hindus on February 24, 1568 AD, after the battle for Chitod' (19). Another reference indicates that this massacre of 30,000 Hindu peasants at Chitod is recorded by Abul Fazl, Akbar's court historian himself (20).




ippatikaina kallu teravandi ra .. Akbar gadini stuthistu .. Mughals ni pogudutoo, Muslim rule lo India baagupadindi ani cheppe daurbhagyullara .. ! thu!

Okahyderabadi:

If the name Hindu Kush relates such a horrible genocide of Hindus, why are Hindus ignorant about it? and why the Government of India does not teach them about Hindu Kush? The history and geography curriculums in Indian Schools barely even mention Hindu Kush. The horrors of the Jewish holocaust are taught not only in schools in Israel and USA, but also in Germany. Because both Germany and Israel consider the Jewish holocaust a 'dark chapter' in the history. The Indian Government instead of giving details of this 'dark chapter' in Indian history is busy in whitewash of Moslem atrocities and the Hindu holocaust. In 1982, the National Council of Educational Research and Training issued a directive for the rewriting of school texts. Among other things it stipulated that: 'Characterization of the medieval period as a time of conflict between Hindus and Moslems is forbidden'. Thus denial of history or Negationism has become India's official 'educational' policy (21).




induku kaadu .. ilanti rulers meeda ucha poyyaali anedi .. thu .. siggu seram .. maanam .. leni janmalu ivi .. chi chi ..

Okahyderabadi:

In the last 46 years the Indian Government also has not even once demanded that the Afgan Government change such an insulting and barbaric name. But in July 1993, the Government of India asked the visiting Jerusalem Symphony Orchestra to change its name because the word Jerusalem in its name is offensive to Moslem Fundamentalists.




aaha .. emi licking ra .. daridrullara ..

Okahyderabadi:

This article barely scratches the surface of the Hindu genocide, the true depth of which is as yet unknown. Readers are encouraged to find out the truth for themselves . Only when many readers search for the truth, the real magnitude of the Hindu genocide will be discovered.




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Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Okahyderabadi:

Mughal emperor Akbar 'ordered the massacre of about 30,000 (captured) Rajput Hindus on February 24, 1568 AD, after the battle for Chitod'



All generalizations have exceptions, including this one
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"Yada Yada Hi Dharmasya
Glanirva Bhavathi Bharatha
Abhyuthanam Adharmasya
Tadatmanam Srijami Aham

Paritranaya Sadhunaam
Vinashaya Cha Dushkritaan
Dharma Sansthapnaya
Arthaya Sambhawani Yuge Yuge.."


“Whenever there is decay of righteousness, O! Bharat and rise in un-righteousness, I shall manifest and MAKE myself evident."

He further says...

O' brave warrior - the enemy you see is not many but one. That enemy is 'EVIL'. And YOU have been chosen to destroy it...so that righteousness triumphs. Do not hesitate for a moment, do not falter, do what you have been chosen to do.

Arjun, This is my lesson to you and all human kind - Never think of the 'result'. Only do your deed. For, once you have done your very best of what you have to do...you reach the extreme limit of what is humanly possible. You CANNOT go beyond.

And since you cannot go beyond...what happens after; the deciding result of your deed - is NOT for you to decide or understand. Leave that to me. What has to be, will be !!"

Lord Krishna said, "Do your Karma, O' great human and leave the rest to me.
TRUST ME. HAVE FAITH." :-)
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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All the Encyclopedias and National Geographic agree that Hindu Kush region is a place of Hindu genocide (similar to Dakau and Auschwitz). All the references are given. Please feel free to verify them.

ABSTRACT

All Standard reference books agree that the name 'Hindu Kush' of the mountain range in Eastern Afganistan means 'Hindu Slaughter' or 'Hindu Killer'. History also reveals that until 1000 A.D. the area of Hindu Kush was a full part of Hindu cradle. More likely, the mountain range was deliberately named as 'Hindu Slaughter' by the Moslem conquerors, as a lesson to the future generations of Indians. However Indians in general, and Hindus in particular are completely oblivious to this tragic genocide. This article also looks into the reasons behind this ignorance.

21 References - (Mainly Encyclopedia Britannica & other reference books, National Geographic Magazines and standard history books).

INTRODUCTION

The Hindu Kush is a mountain system nearly 1000 miles long and 200 miles wide, running northeast to southwest, and dividing the Amu Darya River Valley and Indus River Valley. It stretches from the Pamir Plateau near Gilgit, to Iran. The Hindu Kush ranges mainly run thru Afganistan and Pakistan. It has over two dozen summits of more than 23,000 ft in height. Below the snowy peaks the mountains of Hindu Kush appear bare, stony and poor in vegetation. Historically, the passes across the Hindu Kush have been of great military significance, providing access to the northern plains of India. The Khyber Pass constitutes an important strategic gateway and offers a comparatively easy route to the plains of Punjab. Most foreign invaders, starting from Alexander the Great in 327 BC, to Timur Lane in 1398 AD, and from Mahmud of Ghazni, in 1001 AD, to Nader Shah in 1739 AD attacked Hindustan via the Khyber Pass and other passes in the Hindu Kush (1,2,3). The Greek chroniclers of Alexander the Great called Hindu Kush as Parapamisos or Paropanisos (4). The Hindu name of the Hindu Kush mountains was 'Paariyaatra Parvat'(5).

EARLY HISTORY OF HINDU KUSH REGION (UP TO 1000 AD)

History of Hindu Kush and Punjab shows that two major kingdoms of Gandhaar & Vaahic Pradesh (Balkh of Bactria) had their borders extending far beyond the Hindu Kush. Legend has it that the kingdom of Gandhaar was established by Taksha, grandson of Bharat of Ayodhya (6). Gandhaar's borders extended from Takshashila to Tashkent (corruption of 'Taksha Khand') in the present day Uzbekistan. In the later period, Mahabharat relates Gaandhaari as a princess of Gandhaar and her brother, Shakuni as a prince and later as Gandhaar's ruler.

In the well documented history, Emperor Chandragupt Maurya took charge of Vaahic Pradesh around 325 BC and then took over Magadh. Emperor Ashok's stone tablets with inscriptions in Greek and Aramaic are still found at Qandahar (corruption of Gandhaar?) and Laghman in eastern Afganistan(3). One such stone tablet, is shown in the PBS TV series 'Legacy with Mark Woods' in episode 3 titled 'India: The Spiritual Empire'. After the fall of Mauryan empire, Gandhaar was ruled by Greeks. However some of these Greek rulers had converted to Buddhism, such as Menander, known to Indian historians as Milinda, while some other Greeks became followers of Vishnav sects (Hinduism)(7). Recent excavations in Bactria have revealed a golden hoard which has among other things a figurine of a Greek goddess with a Hindu mark on its forehead (Bindi) showing the confluence of Hindu-Greek art (8). Later Shaka and KushaaN ruled Gandhaar and Vaahic Pradesh. KushaaN emperor Kanishka's empire stretched from Mathura to the Aral Sea (beyond the present day Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Krygzystan)(9).

Kanishaka was a Buddhist and under KushaaN influence Buddhism flourished in Gandhaar. Two giant sandstone Buddhas carved into the cliffs of Bamian (west of Kabul) date from the Kushan period. The larger Buddha (although defaced in later centuries by Moslem invaders) is about 175 ft tall (10,11). The Kushan empire declined by 450 AD. The Chinese traveller Hsuan-Tsang (Xuan-zang) travelled thru the region in 7 th century AD and visited many Buddhist religious centers (3) including Hadda, Ghazni, Qonduz, Bamian (3,10,11), Shotorak and Bagram. From the 5 th thru 9 th cenury AD Persian Sasanians and Hepthalites ruled Gandhaar. During their rule Gandhaar region was again influenced by Hinduism. The Hindu kings (Shahiya) were concentrated in the Kabul and Ghazni areas. The last Hindu Shahiya king of Kabul, Bhimapal was killed in 1026 AD. The heroic efforts of the Hindu Shahiya Kings to defend the northwestern gates of India against the invaders are described by even al-Biruni, the court historian of Mahmud of Ghazni (12). Some excavated sites of the period include a major Hindu Shahiya temple north of Kabul and a chapel that contains both Buddhist and Hindu images, indicating that there was a mingling of two religions (3).

Islamic invasions on Afganistan started in 642 AD, but over the next several centuries their effect was marginal and lasted only a short time after each raid. Cities surrendered only to rise in revolt and the hastily converted returned to their old religion (Hinduism or Buddhism) once the Moslem armies had passed (3).

THUS TILL THE YEAR 1000 AD AFGANISTAN WAS A FULL PART OF HINDU CRADLE.

HINDU KUSH AND THE HINDU GENOCIDE

Now Afganistan is a Moslem country. Logically, this means either one or more of the following must have happened:

a) original residents of Hindu Kush converted to Islam, or
b) they were slaughtered and the conquerors took over, or
c) they were driven out.

Encyclopedia Britannica (3) already informs us above about the resistance to conversion and frequent revolt against to the Moslem conqueror's rule from 8 th thru 11 th Century AD. The name 'Hindu Kush' itself tells us about the fate of the original residents of Gandhaar and Vaahic Pradesh during the later period of Moslem conquests, because HINDU KUSH in Persian MEANS HINDU SLAUGHTER (13) (as per Koenraad Elst in his book 'Ayodhya and After'). Let us look into what other standard references say about Hindu Kush.

Persian-English dictionary (14) indicates that the word 'Kush' is derived from the verb Kushtar - to slaughter or carnage. Kush is probably also related to the verb Koshtan meaning to kill. In Urdu, the word Khud-kushi means act of killing oneself (khud - self, Kushi- act of killing). Encyclopedia Americana comments on the Hindu Kush as follows: The name Hindu Kush means literally 'Kills the Hindu', a reminder of the days when (Hindu) SLAVES from Indian subcontinent died in harsh Afgan mountains while being transported to Moslem courts of Central Asia (15). The National Geographic Article 'West of Khyber Pass' informs that 'Generations of raiders brought captive Hindus past these peaks of perpetual snow. Such bitter journeys gave the range its name Hindu Kush - "Killer of Hindus"'(10). The World Book Encyclopedia informs that the name Kush, .. means Death ..(16). While Encyclopedia Britannica says 'The name Hindu Kush first appears in 1333 AD in the writings of Ibn Battutah, the medieval Berber traveller, who said the name meant 'Hindu Killer', a meaning still given by Afgan mountain dwellers who are traditional enemies of Indian plainsmen (i.e. Hindus)(2). However, later the Encyclopedia Britannica gives a negationist twist by adding that 'more likely the name is a corruption of Hindu-Koh meaning Hindu mountains'. This is unlikely, since the term Koh is used in its proper, uncorrupted form for the western portion of Hindu Kush, viz. Koh-i-Baba, for the region Swat Kohistan, and in the names of the three peaks of this range, viz. Koh-i-Langer, Koh-i-Bandakor, and Koh-i-Mondi. Thus to say that corruption of term Koh to Kush occurred only in case of Hindu Kush is merely an effort to fit in a deviant observation to a theory already proposed. In science, a theory is rejected if it does not agree with the observations, and not the other way around. Hence the latter negationist statement in the Encyclopedia Britannica must be rejected.

IT IS SIGNIFICANT THAT ONE OF THE FEW PLACE NAMES ON EARTH THAT REMINDS US NOT OF THE VICTORY OF THE WINNERS BUT RATHER THE SLAUGHTER OF THE LOSERS, CONCERNS A GENOCIDE OF HINDUS BY THE MOSLEMS (13).

Unlike the Jewish holocaust, the exact toll of the Hindu genocide suggested by the name Hindu Kush is not available. However the number is easily likely to be in millions. Few known historical figures can be used to justify this estimate. Encyclopedia Britannica informs that in December 1398 AD, Timur Lane ordered the execution of at least 50,000 captives before the battle for Delhi, .. and after the battle those inhabitants (of Delhi) not killed were removed (as slaves) (17), while other reference says that the number of captives butchered by Timur Lane's army was about 100,000 (18). Later on Encyclopedia Britannica mentions that the (secular?) Mughal emperor Akbar 'ordered the massacre of about 30,000 (captured) Rajput Hindus on February 24, 1568 AD, after the battle for Chitod' (19). Another reference indicates that this massacre of 30,000 Hindu peasants at Chitod is recorded by Abul Fazl, Akbar's court historian himself (20). These two 'one day' massacres are sufficient to provide a reference point for estimating the scale of Hindu genocide. The Afgan historian Khondamir records that during one of the many repeated invasions on the city of Herat in western Afganistan, 1,500,000 residents perished (11).

Since some of the Moslem conquerors took Indian plainsmen as slaves, a question comes : whatever happened to this slave population? The startling answer comes from New York Times (May-June 1993 issues). The Gypsies are wandering peoples in Europe. They have been persecuted in almost every country. Nazis killed 300,000 gypsies in the gas chambers. These Gypsies have been wandering around Central Asia and Europe since around the 12 th Century AD. Until now their country of origin could not be identified. Also their Language has had very little in common with the other European languages. Recent studies however show that their language is similar to Punjabi and to a lesser degree to Sanskrit. Thus the Gypsies most likely originated from the greater Punjab. The time frame of Gypsy wanderings also coincides early Islamic conquests hence most likely their ancestors were driven out of their homes in Punjab and taken as slaves over the Hindu Kush.

The theory of Gypsie origins in India was first proposed over two centuries ago. It is only recently theta linguistic and other proofs have been verified. Even the Gypsie leadership now accepts India as the country of their origin.

Thus it is evident that the mountain range was named as Hindu Kush as a reminder to the future Hindu generations of the slaughter and slavery of Hindus during the Moslem conquests.


DELIBERATE IGNORANCE ABOUT HINDU KUSH

If the name Hindu Kush relates such a horrible genocide of Hindus, why are Hindus ignorant about it? and why the Government of India does not teach them about Hindu Kush? The history and geography curriculums in Indian Schools barely even mention Hindu Kush. The horrors of the Jewish holocaust are taught not only in schools in Israel and USA, but also in Germany. Because both Germany and Israel consider the Jewish holocaust a 'dark chapter' in the history. The Indian Government instead of giving details of this 'dark chapter' in Indian history is busy in whitewash of Moslem atrocities and the Hindu holocaust. In 1982, the National Council of Educational Research and Training issued a directive for the rewriting of school texts. Among other things it stipulated that: 'Characterization of the medieval period as a time of conflict between Hindus and Moslems is forbidden'. Thus denial of history or Negationism has become India's official 'educational' policy (21).

Often the official governmental historians brush aside questions such as those that Hindu Kush raises. They argue that the British version is the product of their 'divide and rule' policy' hence their version is not necessarily true. However it must be remembered that the earliest reference of the name Hindu Kush and its literal meaning 'Hindu Killer' comes from Ibn Battutah in 1333 AD, and at that time British were nowhere on the Indian scene. Secondly, if the name indeed was a misnomer then the Afgans should have protested against such a barbaric name and the last 660 plus years should have been adequate for a change of name to a more 'civil' name. There has been no effort for such a change of name by the Afgans. On the contrary, when the Islamic fundamentalist regime of the Mujahadeens came to power in 1992, tens of thousands of Hindus and Sikhs from Kabul, became refugees, and had to pay steep ransom to enter into Pakistan without a visa.

In the last 46 years the Indian Government also has not even once demanded that the Afgan Government change such an insulting and barbaric name. But in July 1993, the Government of India asked the visiting Jerusalem Symphony Orchestra to change its name because the word Jerusalem in its name is offensive to Moslem Fundamentalists.

CONCLUSION

It is evident that Hindus from ancient India's (Hindustan's) border states such as Gandhaar and Vaahic Pradesh were massacred or taken as slaves by the Moslem invaders who named the region as Hindu Kush (or Hindu Slaughter,or Hindu Killer) to teach a lesson to the future Hindu generations of India. Unfortunately Hindus are not aware of this tragic history. The Indian government does not want the true history of Hindu Moslem conflicts during the medieval ages to be taught in schools. This policy of negationism is the cause behind the ignorance of Hindus about the Hindu Kush and the Hindu genocide.

COMMENTS & FUTURE WORK

Although in this article Hindu Kush has been referred to as Hindu slaughter, it is quite possible that it was really a Hindu and Buddhist slaughter. Since prior to Moslem invasions influence of Buddhism in Gandhaar and Vaahic Pradesh was considerable. Also as the huge 175 ft stone Buddhas of Bamian show, Buddhists were idol worshipers par excellence. Hence for Moslem invaders the Buddhists idol worshipers were equally deserving of punishment. It is also likely that Buddhism was considered an integral part of the Hindu pantheon and hence was not identified separately.

This article barely scratches the surface of the Hindu genocide, the true depth of which is as yet unknown. Readers are encouraged to find out the truth for themselves . Only when many readers search for the truth, the real magnitude of the Hindu genocide will be discovered.

REFERENCES

1. Encyclopedia Britannica, 15 th Ed, Vol.5, p.935, 1987

2. Encyclopedia Britannica, 15 th Ed, Vol.14, pp.238-240, 1987

3. Encyclopedia Britannica, 15 th Ed, Vol.13, pp.35-36, 1987

4. The Invasion of India by Alexander the Great (as described by Arrian, Q.Curtius, Diodoros, Plutarch & Justin), By J.W.McCrindle, Methuen & Co., London, p.38, 1969

5. Six Glorious Epochs of Indian History, by Veer Savarkar, Savarkar Prakashan, Bombay, 2nd Ed, p.206, 1985

6. Chanakya - a TV series by Doordarshan, India

7. Encyclopedia Britannica, 15 th Ed, Vol.21, pp.36-41, 1987

8. V.Sarianidi, National Geographic Magazine, Vol.177, No.3, p.57, March 1990

9. Hammond Historical Atlas of the World, pp. H4 & H10, 1993

10. W.O.Douglas, National Geographic Magazine, vol.114, No.1, pp.13-23, July 1958

11. T.J.Abercrombie, National Geographic Magazine, Vol.134, No.3, pp.318-325, Sept.1968

12. An Advanced History of India, by R.C.Majumdar, H.C.Raychaudhuri, K.Datta, 2nd Ed., MacMillan and Co, London, pp.182-83, 1965

13. Ayodhya and After, By Koenraad Elst, Voice of India Publication, p.278, 1991

14. A Practical Dictionary of the Persian Language, by J.A.Boyle, Luzac & Co., p.129, 1949

15. Encyclopedia Americana, Vol.14, p.206, 1993

16. The World Book Encyclopedia, Vol.19, p.237, 1990

17. Encyclopedia Britannica, 15 th Ed, Vol.21, pp. 54-55, 1987

18. An Advanced History of India, by R.C.Majumdar, H.C.Raychaudhuri, K.Datta, 2nd Ed., MacMillan and Co, London, pp.336-37, 1965

19. Encyclopedia Britannica, 15 th Ed, Vol.21, p.65, 1987

20. The Cambridge History of India, Vol.IV - The Mughul Period, by W.Haig & R.Burn, S.Chand & Co., New Delhi, pp. 98-99, 1963

21. Negationism in India, by Koenraad Elst, Voice of India Publ, 2nd Ed, pp.57-58, 1993


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inka chalaane stories unaayi.. i forgot the author edho moulana, a pre independence historian, he has written that most number of mosques in india were built on hindu temples.

hindu kush gurinchi konchem opika theesukuni malli post chestha..
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Ustad:


Pelli chesukomanganee give up




haa .. mari lekapothe .. 2-3 seskovaala .. bathakaala vadda nenu ! :D

Okahyderabadi:

idi right wing ideology na, nijama kada anedi to be discussed.kamal tammi might have already gone through this material at some point of time.




naa opinion last ki septha .. migilinollani seppanistha ! free for all .. kummukondi ! :D
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anna .. I give up .. naakochina urdu aiponaadi .. mujhe maaf kardo .



Pelli chesukomanganee give up
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Meera kya hain mian...tu bhi jaldi 2-4 nikaah karkooo...10-15 bachoon ku nikaal...kaum ke vasthe itta bhi nahin karta...dekha naa...afghan main...iraq main apne M bhaiyoon ka din dahaade katlee aam karre yee amrikn kafiraan




anna .. I give up .. naakochina urdu aiponaadi .. mujhe maaf kardo ..
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Elcaminocapastrino:

church iithey ippudu muskuni kuchundhi....




idendi .. agenda kaada? .. eppudanna vatican websites open sesaava? websites lo proud ga meters edutaaru .. how many conversions per second ani .. kiki .. route maarsaaru ani seppu .. muskuni koorsundi ani color eyyak !

Elcaminocapastrino:

see...saddham hussein was supposed to be the guy who was supposed to bring all countries under islam and rule the world accordingly....but now since he is dead laden is being considered as someone who can achieve that





Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Meera kya hain mian...tu bhi jaldi 2-4 nikaah karkooo...10-15 bachoon ku nikaal...kaum ke vasthe itta bhi nahin karta...dekha naa...afghan main...iraq main apne M bhaiyoon ka din dahaade katlee aam karre yee amrikn kafiraan
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idi right wing ideology na, nijama kada anedi to be discussed.kamal tammi might have already gone through this material at some point of time.

http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/hindu_kush.html
http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/akbar_ppg.html
http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/akbar_vs.html
http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/taj_oak.html


emantaru?
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aa time lo islam n church kurrollaki ee kasi ento nakardham kadhu....jihadh n crusades ani mana lanti deshala pina padi kummesevallu....church iithey ippudu muskuni kuchundhi....islam lo laden lanti kurroll inga adhey agenda tho unnar....there was this marriage party in bay area in aug that i went.....andhulo hardcore kasi kurroll of muslims 4ru unnaru....vallu maa group pakkanney gather iyyar and they started talkin...sudden ga maa dosth started nudging me to listen to their conversation....marriage emo hardcore vegeterians dhi...so kurrol showing their dissent on food and disco went to religions n further...
one guy was saying something like "see...saddham hussein was supposed to be the guy who was supposed to bring all countries under islam and rule the world accordingly....but now since he is dead laden is being considered as someone who can achieve that"
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Alla ke fazal se 3 biwiyaan aur 14 bachoon ke mast main hoon




arre yeh kya miyaa .. pareshaan karre baap tu .. 3 ich biwiyaan kyu ? aur ek hona hai na? arre hamara "hum paanch hamara pachchees" naara hai .. bhool gaya kya .. chal koi baat nahin .. nikkah kar phir se .. paida kar bache .. :D

aur kya haal hai .. sunao .. !
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ustad miyan .. ek dam first class chelra mera .. aap ka kaisa chelra .. sab khairiyat? (ippudu notlo paan pakkana goda meeda unsaali annattu .. attage kinda gokkovaali :D



Alla hafeez Kamaal miyan (Jaali banian, mooh main paan, aankh main soorma, sher goola lungi)...Alla ke fazal se 3 biwiyaan aur 14 bachoon ke mast main hoon
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ninna retri .. esu, alla kanipinsi multi-starrer kalalo .. pichedava .. enduku ra hindus hindus ani antha tala baadukuntaav .. hayi ga .. nuvvu kooda siluvesuko .. lekapothe meme balavantam ga estaam annad .. alage alla kooda seppad .. soosavu ga maa population etta multiply avutondo .. meeku moodindi le .. annad .. appude seppaad .. waste bengal llo .. Tulaka population inko 13 years lo .. 50% cross avutundi ani projecting sestunnarata .. sammaga .. aa mukka elli bangaldesam lo kalisipotundi .. attage .. nest 11 years lo .. kerala lo hindus minority avutarata .. kiki .. ittanti isesaalu enno sepparu .. appudu anipinsindi .. correcte kada .. ippudu intha poraadithe .. repu minority gaa maaraaka .. pirst nanne esestaaru kadaa ani .. anduke silent aipodaam ani deciding sesaa .. gear maarsi .. reverse lo vastunna ..

prenship koddi septunna .. nuvvu kooda gear reverse seyyi .. poraadindi saalle inka ..


kallu teripinchav kamalaii..

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(ippudu notlo paan pakkana goda meeda unsaali annattu .. attage kinda gokkovaali )



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oka thed yeyyalani unde deeni meeda, malla PC antaremo ani gammuna unna. entry ichina kada koncham vishyam vesta nenu kooda.




eti poraatam posts aa .. deni meeda? esedi unte tondara ga eseyyi .. eppudu minority aipotaavo teldu .. late aithe .. khel khatam ! :D
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kamal tamud how r u




ustad miyan .. ek dam first class chelra mera .. aap ka kaisa chelra .. sab khairiyat? (ippudu notlo paan pakkana goda meeda unsaali annattu .. attage kinda gokkovaali :D )
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In this db, there's always someone watching you!!
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Ruj:

ayina enti ee reverse gear




ninna retri .. esu, alla kanipinsi multi-starrer kalalo .. pichedava .. enduku ra hindus hindus ani antha tala baadukuntaav .. hayi ga .. nuvvu kooda siluvesuko .. lekapothe meme balavantam ga estaam annad .. alage alla kooda seppad .. soosavu ga maa population etta multiply avutondo .. meeku moodindi le .. annad .. appude seppaad .. waste bengal llo .. Tulaka population inko 13 years lo .. 50% cross avutundi ani projecting sestunnarata .. sammaga .. aa mukka elli bangaldesam lo kalisipotundi .. attage .. nest 11 years lo .. kerala lo hindus minority avutarata .. kiki .. ittanti isesaalu enno sepparu .. appudu anipinsindi .. correcte kada .. ippudu intha poraadithe .. repu minority gaa maaraaka .. pirst nanne esestaaru kadaa ani .. anduke silent aipodaam ani deciding sesaa .. gear maarsi .. reverse lo vastunna ..

prenship koddi septunna .. nuvvu kooda gear reverse seyyi .. poraadindi saalle inka .. :D
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Kamal tammi
oka thed yeyyalani unde deeni meeda, malla PC antaremo ani gammuna unna. entry ichina kada koncham vishyam vesta nenu kooda.
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Kamal:



kamal tamud how r u
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Kamal:

romilla thapar books saduvukuni




news reported kada.. writed kudaa na.. konchem light veyi..
"VV lo avaleela ga punjabi matlade scene keka"

bala king of acting in TFI ani chaati cheppina scene..innocence, pathos and senti ni kalipi......mantal repadu aa scene-- PAVALA
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Kamal:

kiki .. avunu vaay .. adi vaalla goppatanam soopistundi .. alage mee Hindus .. setagaani tanam kanipistundi .. soosav ga .. pre-dominantly Hindus unde ee DB lo ee thed esaav .. evaranna ossara? raaledu .. raaru kooda .. enduku .. basic ga mee Hindus sannasul kabatti .. induke mimmalni .. crores lekkana vesesaaru .. poyi maa romilla thapar books saduvukuni sallabadu



ala goppatanam kaadu..ala superiority choopinchukotaniki raasukunetolu..melliga 17th century daataka tone maarindhi..anni incidents gurinchi telidu kaani babri masid demolition gurinchi ayithe anthe...entha mandhi aa gudini rakshinchataniki pranalu arpincharo..islamic conquerers took pride in demolishing such a holy place for hindus...ayina enti ee reverse gear:D
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Ruj:

muslims ala chesaru ani vaala writingslone unnayi..ram temple demolishion nundi hindus oochakotha varaku vaala writingslone(mukhayamga 14th century-19century writings) vividha sandhrabalalo mention cheyatam jarigindhi..naaku specific ga example telidhu..kaani articles chadivetapudu ..majority of the articles refer to islamic scholars writings including baburnama etc..




kiki .. avunu vaay .. adi vaalla goppatanam soopistundi .. alage mee Hindus .. setagaani tanam kanipistundi .. soosav ga .. pre-dominantly Hindus unde ee DB lo ee thed esaav .. evaranna ossara? raaledu .. raaru kooda .. enduku .. basic ga mee Hindus sannasul kabatti .. induke mimmalni .. crores lekkana vesesaaru .. poyi maa romilla thapar books saduvukuni sallabadu .. :D
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Kamal:

aithe eti seyyaali .. ippudu allandirini hindus ga maarchi eti saadistaav? peace ga undanivvava (ade le .. islam pollow avvanivvava?) ani maa sodarul adagamannaru?


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Kamal:

aa elite class evaro seppesi punyam moota kattesuko .. aallu vedas sadivevaarani .. yagas sesevaallani .. alage ayurveda lanti medical science, atronomy lanti sciences, literature etc etc soosukune vaaru ani .. aanati kingdoms lo ministers ga undevaarani seppesina parledu anukunta ! ika ippudu .. nenu konni kochens aduguta ..

1) Tulakollu ila sesaaru anadaaniki nee daggara proof unda? maaku Romilla Thapar raasina istory lo atta seppanedu mari ..
2) Tulakism (ade le Islam) means peace ani seppalani undi .. em peace ani adakku .. smasanam lo unde peace kooda ayyundachu .. mari alantappudu .. aallu Hindus ni sampadaaniki reasons, motives entivi?
3) gatham gatham annaru ga mee sanskrit saduvukunna peddolle .. ippudu aa istory antha ikkada ettesi .. enduku maa romilla thapar pollowers/pans meeda edustav ani secular samajam tarapuna adagaalani undi ..




muslims ala chesaru ani vaala writingslone unnayi..ram temple demolishion nundi hindus oochakotha varaku vaala writingslone(mukhayamga 14th century-19century writings) vividha sandhrabalalo mention cheyatam jarigindhi..naaku specific ga example telidhu..kaani articles chadivetapudu ..majority of the articles refer to islamic scholars writings including baburnama etc..
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Risingstar:

antee meaning endhi semma gallane kadha



ante enti annai..
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7century islaminc invasion nundi 13 century varaku...vachina rulers andharu..hindusloni elite classni(physically,mentally) select chesukuni..alani baghdad tolukupothunde anta slavery/conversion kosam..himalayas meedhuga...elite class ne enduku ante ale backbone kadha.alani padagodthe culture punadhulu lepeyochu ani..(anduke most of the punjabi muslims(okapati hindus) are hale and healthy ani seppadu..kikiki).ala aa himalayas lo chaliki, vipareetha paristhutalki...80% mandhi akkade chanipothunde anta..anduke aa belt mothaniki hindu kush mountains(killer of hindus) ani peru vachindhi..anthaka mundara vaatiki sanskrit peru edho unde..




aa elite class evaro seppesi punyam moota kattesuko .. aallu vedas sadivevaarani .. yagas sesevaallani .. alage ayurveda lanti medical science, atronomy lanti sciences, literature etc etc soosukune vaaru ani .. aanati kingdoms lo ministers ga undevaarani seppesina parledu anukunta ! ika ippudu .. nenu konni kochens aduguta ..

1) Tulakollu ila sesaaru anadaaniki nee daggara proof unda? maaku Romilla Thapar raasina istory lo atta seppanedu mari ..
2) Tulakism (ade le Islam) means peace ani seppalani undi .. em peace ani adakku .. smasanam lo unde peace kooda ayyundachu .. mari alantappudu .. aallu Hindus ni sampadaaniki reasons, motives entivi?
3) gatham gatham annaru ga mee sanskrit saduvukunna peddolle .. ippudu aa istory antha ikkada ettesi .. enduku maa romilla thapar pollowers/pans meeda edustav ani secular samajam tarapuna adagaalani undi ..

Ruj:

ala baghdad toluku poyi slaves ga unchi..convert chesese vaalu..ala raanu raanu taruvatha indialone conversions perigipoyayi.. neti pakistanlo 60%+ population punjabi muslims dhi..aa punjabhi muslimslo majority last names north indian hindu last names tho kalusthayi..directly or corrupted versions..




aithe eti seyyaali .. ippudu allandirini hindus ga maarchi eti saadistaav? peace ga undanivvava (ade le .. islam pollow avvanivvava?) ani maa sodarul adagamannaru?

Ruj:

hindus pai jarigina arachakalu prapanchamlo ee community meedha jaragaledu ani..




edisaar .. savatalu ani deciding sesaar maa seclar sodarul .. em heekkuntaavo heekko .. maa istory ni romilla tho atta kulla bodipistaam ani kooda seppamannar ! :D
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Ruj:

...hindus pai jarigina arachakalu prapanchamlo ee community meedha jaragaledu ani..




antee meaning endhi semma gallane kadha
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maa appicelo oka ayana untaru..around 50 age..haryana nundi..vaala brothers etc antha military airforcelo undetolu..eeyana okade initally mechanical engineer..last 10yrs nundi software..hisotry pichi eeyanaki..

eeyana cheppatam prakaram..

7century islaminc invasion nundi 13 century varaku...vachina rulers andharu..hindusloni elite classni(physically,mentally) select chesukuni..alani baghdad tolukupothunde anta slavery/conversion kosam..himalayas meedhuga...elite class ne enduku ante ale backbone kadha.alani padagodthe culture punadhulu lepeyochu ani..(anduke most of the punjabi muslims(okapati hindus) are hale and healthy ani seppadu..kikiki).ala aa himalayas lo chaliki, vipareetha paristhutalki...80% mandhi akkade chanipothunde anta..anduke aa belt mothaniki hindu kush mountains(killer of hindus) ani peru vachindhi..anthaka mundara vaatiki sanskrit peru edho unde..
ala baghdad toluku poyi slaves ga unchi..convert chesese vaalu..ala raanu raanu taruvatha indialone conversions perigipoyayi.. neti pakistanlo 60%+ population punjabi muslims dhi..aa punjabhi muslimslo majority last names north indian hindu last names tho kalusthayi..directly or corrupted versions..

eela tatha story kooda edho cheppadhu..jats anta veelu..pakistanlo evaro muslim tho relation anta..enta link ani tavvuthe vaala veela forefathers okale hindus anta..madyalo ekkado oka part convert ayipoyaru ani cheppukochaadu.chaala emotional ayipothadu...hindus pai jarigina arachakalu prapanchamlo ee community meedha jaragaledu ani..
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title lo read it as "hindus"
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author is flemish..he's belgian writer and editor
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http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/irin/genocide.ht ml

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