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Ishan
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Lionswalkalone:


Ex...."Sanatana" is eternal wisdom..kikk..no one should criticise or modify it


who said that? Vedas themselves said that you dont have to believe in them. They clearly said that each person must use his logic and reasoning and find his own path for spiritualism. Vedas never declared you must follow them. They are just guidelines. Thats the greatness of them and you dont see any other religious text emphasizing on that point.
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Ishan:

Another irrelevant statement.




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Ishan:

hats my point too. Nature is not such a simple thing that can be explained by simple variables. Science may or may not solve the puzzles. Even if it solves everything in the nature, it can not prove the existence of things beyond nature. Atheists are believers too, they believe in science and theists believe in soul....not much difference, atheists must be aware of this and stop trashing the god believers. It has become a fashion for every so called logician to trash every thing that is not proved by science.

Newton who was considered as the greatest scientist said gravity is the pull of earth, and every body found comfort in it. Einstein proved gravity not the pull of earth but the push of the space. This demonstrates science is not definitive and could be fickle. If you can not prove or disprove a hypothesis, its better to keep quiet. Most of the scientific hypotheses are based on this so called logic, and once they test them with available methods, 80% of them are rejected and they observe totally different things. One must accept limitations of every perceivable phenomenon in this universe, nothing is determinative in this world.




The difference is that science is open for interpretation, revision...etc....whereas Religion is authoritative...don't even compare..there is day and night difference between the two

Ex...."Sanatana" is eternal wisdom..kikk..no one should criticise or modify it
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far worse all so called scientific explanations that rely on any piece of mathematics is plagued by 2 directly verifiable loop holes of first order grammar of logic...

1.) Axiom of choice
2.) Irreducibility

Science for centuries defined its definitive success as existence of irreducible laws for reducible continuum. Now it has all collapsed onto itself and now they are groping in the dark with some ridiculous string theory, loop quantum gravity...etc...You walk in the precints of princeton etc and one common tone that one can listen to is that the age of marketing of science wholesale is dead.

The new fad is computable reality from Biogenetics to Bio chemical make up of cell...kiki...and all that is computable is ny virtue inferential....the death knell to the very premise of western rationalism....lol...science is at cross roads and thats the fact we got to face
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Lionswalkalone:



appetite and thirst are controlled by brain...sleep center is in brain


Another irrelevant statement.
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Anand_n:

My point - there are a myriad variables impacting what we are at birth
...at this point we just may not know all the variables. Till we know the variables we cannot identify the vehicle of their delivery to be genes or environment
or something else...


Thats my point too. Nature is not such a simple thing that can be explained by simple variables. Science may or may not solve the puzzles. Even if it solves everything in the nature, it can not prove the existence of things beyond nature. Atheists are believers too, they believe in science and theists believe in soul....not much difference, atheists must be aware of this and stop trashing the god believers. It has become a fashion for every so called logician to trash every thing that is not proved by science.

Newton who was considered as the greatest scientist said gravity is the pull of earth, and every body found comfort in it. Einstein proved gravity not the pull of earth but the push of the space. This demonstrates science is not definitive and could be fickle. If you can not prove or disprove a hypothesis, its better to keep quiet. Most of the scientific hypotheses are based on this so called logic, and once they test them with available methods, 80% of them are rejected and they observe totally different things. One must accept limitations of every perceivable phenomenon in this universe, nothing is determinative in this world.
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Ishan:

Irrelevant statement.




appetite and thirst are controlled by brain...sleep center is in brain

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Ishan:

why are not we seeing such changes in appearances?




There are those differences as well- ade kada cheptundi ... even identical twins are not really identical ani :-)

My point - there are a myriad variables impacting what we are at birth...at this point we just may not know all the variables. Till we know the variables we cannot identify the vehicle of their delivery to be genes or environment or something else...

pakka thread lo OBE gurinchi matladamu - manaki adi oka spiritual experience kinda cheptaru linga sarira concept... but here's the twist - four generations of women in my family have this experience .. so it makes me think it could just be a matrilineal gene that predisposes us to this??? Who knows :-)
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though i appreciate recent advances in medine....those who are claiming that medical technology is at its peak in the history of mankind should answer why they are not able to artificially divide zygote into multiple parts and raise them outside the womb as vyasa did ...vyasa divided the zygote of gandhari into 100 parts and raised each part separtely in 100 pots..the same vyasa wrote mahabharat which has Bhagvatgita..gita explains that a soul changes bodies just like clothes...so vyasa is more reliable than modern scientists until they atleast achieve similar feat
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Paga_babai_paga:



neku torrents antee nee entoo telvadu. neku Der, anand etc lanti vallu vunna threads avasarameee.


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One:

vamooo emiti edi.....




neku torrents antee nee entoo telvadu. neku Der, anand etc lanti vallu vunna threads avasarameee.



Dare sesi thread mottam sadivitheee, nuvvu dam sure Ghajinivi avuthavu.
Oyi Teluguvada tagadu inta naduma goda - Jai Samikya Andhra

Jai Lagadapati. Jai Annayya.
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Anand_n:

Hypothetical example - we know the food a mother takes during pregnancy impacts the child... say she eats something considered not good for the child's brain development ... if this substance is unevenly distributed between the two embryo's will the impact on the brains of the two twins not be different ?

If the brain develops dfferently, will the psychology not be different ?


Might be, but the same factors can affect morphology too, and why are not we seeing such changes in appearances?
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If outside environment is responsible for diffrent behaviour of similar twins.. is it because of diffrence in nutrient & oxygen supply...what are those factors and when actually they start deviating...why zygote divides into multiple fragments in the first place..Is it because of genetic code or again random environmental processes....
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Ishan:

Even if there are minor differences, is there a linear correlation between those variables and psychological changes? Has a study ever confirmed it?




Hypothetical example - we know the food a mother takes during pregnancy impacts the child... say she eats something considered not good for the child's brain development ... if this substance is unevenly distributed between the two embryo's will the impact on the brains of the two twins not be different ?

If the brain develops dfferently, will the psychology not be different ?
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vamooo emiti edi.....
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Anand_n:


Sure - but when you said identical twins - I was thinking more in terms of facial features etc. which are usually genetic predispositions:-)


Not necessarily. Taking your example of cord constriction, if the blood supply is damaged to a limb, the kid will be crippled.
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mee andariki sethakoti dandaalu...emi knowledge saami okkokkaridhi...yeda saduvthaaru ivanniii...antha time spending antey goppa ney :-)
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Lionswalkalone:



Identical twins don't weigh same...at birth or otherwise...
Their organs can be of different sizes


I am talking about external morphology not internal. Even if there are minor differences, is there a linear correlation between those variables and psychological changes? Has a study ever confirmed it?

Lionswalkalone:


Their appetite is different...thirst is different....need for sleep varies...
so are their emotions...thoughts....everything else


Irrelevant statement.
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Ishan:


That statement was to make it clear that the so called environmental factors in the womb can cause morphological defects too.




Sure - but when you said identical twins - I was thinking more in terms of facial features etc. which are usually genetic predispositions:-)
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Anand_n:


Not sure how this is contra-indicative of genes and environmental factors in the womb being independent variables impacting the psychology ... can you elaborate ?


That statement was to make it clear that the so called environmental factors in the womb can cause morphological defects too. I don't know if they weigh exactly the same at their birth.
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Ishan:

why do these factors always affect psychology and not morphology? w






Identical twins don't weigh same...at birth or otherwise...
Their organs can be of different sizes

Their appetite is different...thirst is different....need for sleep varies...
so are their emotions...thoughts....everything else
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Ishan:

Moreover, there are plethora of psychological diseases that are genetically predisposed and morphological teratogenic defects caused by the factors in the womb.




Not sure how this is contra-indicative of genes and environmental factors in the womb being independent variables impacting the psychology ... can you elaborate ?

Physical features are genetic to some extent but even monozygotic twins do necessarily weigh exactly the same at birth, do they ?
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Anand_n:



Maybe because physical features are more genetic ?


Is there data available to support this claim? Moreover, there are plethora of psychological diseases that are genetically predisposed and morphological teratogenic defects caused by the factors in the womb.
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Ishan:

genes must work all the time to keep a cell alive so the effect starts immediately. But which part starts first is almost impossible to say, at least I dont know the answer for that.




multple parts of the code simultaneous ga read avutaaya....if at all the process of reading genetic code is intialised by mechanism outside genetic code..what drives that mechanism...if genes must work for the cell to live(communicate with environment outside the cell)..how is the internal mechanism for reading the genetic code triggered...if it is triggered by a chemical reaction inside the cell..there should be a point or points where genetic reading starts...Has science identified atleast some of these points or do they claim it as another random process
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Ishan:

why are these twins look identical almost all the times?




Maybe because physical features are more genetic ? actually identical twins are not completely identical either - there are discernible differences :-)
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The liberal circle hence is complete....ishan annai prepare for pure unadulterated baloney



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Say one twin gets less nutrition than the other due to the cord being constricted or something like that will it not impact the psychology and even more tangibly the brain development itself ?


why do these factors always affect psychology and not morphology? why are these twins look identical almost all the times?
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Ishan:

It might be possible but how do you think those factors affect their psychology? through the genes governing behavior?




Psychology is driven by part genetic, part environmental factors. So if the two zygotes had different environmental factors in the womb for 9 months - their psychology at birth could be differnt at birth just due to these:-)

Say one twin gets less nutrition than the other due to the cord being constricted or something like that will it not impact the psychology and even more tangibly the brain development itself ? LWA can validate the medical feasibility ...
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unadulterated antey pure kada???? what you mean by above? purest pure which is redundant?




Alane kani annai...I am excited when the ploy works...kiki
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>>>>
pure unadulterated
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unadulterated antey pure kada???? what you mean by above? purest pure which is redundant?
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Anand_n:

things as simple as which side the mother sleeps on could put one baby at an advantage over other possibly ? This could cause the different psychology at birth as well ?


It might be possible but how do you think those factors affect their psychology? through the genes governing behavior?
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>>>>>>>
inthaki nuvvu past life lo ento seppu fleez
>>>>>>>>>>

Naakemi telusu....when did I say I believe it is true?

>>>>
nenu mostly lion ayyundachu..anduke alaa subconscious ga ID lo pettesuntaa....
>>>>>

ID ni batti aithey "sakku bai" ayyundochchu.....:-))

Kish,

Wish you and your family a very happy healthy prosperous new year dude....long time no see??
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The liberal circle hence is complete....ishan annai prepare for pure unadulterated baloney
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Ishan:

Twins are two kinds brother. Dizygotic twins are born from two different zygotes (zygote is formed when ovum or egg in female is fused with sperm of male). They are different. But monozygotic twins are exactly identical genetically because one zygote divides in to two and impregnates mother. Clones are also identical genetically, however scientists agree that their psychology differs even at birth al though they are genetically identical.




Between the splitting of the zygote and birth there are host of environmental factors affecting the twins differently... things as simple as which side the mother sleeps on could put one baby at an advantage over other possibly ? This could cause the differnt psychology at birth as well ?
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brother sperm,ovum fertilize ayyinappudu control eppudu genetic code ki shift avutundo kanipettara biologists..aa shift ayyinapudu ee part of genetic code intial ga control teesukuntundhi anedhi identify chesaara


genes must work all the time to keep a cell alive so the effect starts immediately. But which part starts first is almost impossible to say, at least I dont know the answer for that.
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/nenu mostly lion ayyundachu..anduke alaa subconscious ga ID lo pettesuntaa.... /

mari aa lekkana nenu last janmala loo..


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Ishan:

Good question, what regulates them? the genes, ok what causes the initiation of the transcription of those genes? Genes dont work automatically, they need stimulation for expression. And where does that stimulation come from? other genes, Ok what stimulates those genes? IS there an end to this?




brother sperm,ovum fertilize ayyinappudu control eppudu genetic code ki shift avutundo kanipettara biologists..aa shift ayyinapudu ee part of genetic code intial ga control teesukuntundhi anedhi identify chesaara
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reincarnation trash annaaa...karma analedu



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nijamgaa respect ye naa?? naakattaa anipinchatledu.....parledu cheppeyi...enduku edava mohamaatam?




inthaki nuvvu past life lo ento seppu fleez

nenu mostly lion ayyundachu..anduke alaa subconscious ga ID lo pettesuntaa....

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Ishan:

, there are many occasions where several diseases were cured just by sheer "will" and positive thinking




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what regulates the amount of dopamine, acetyl choline or norepinephrine or whatever secreted in your brain?


Good question, what regulates them? the genes, ok what causes the initiation of the transcription of those genes? Genes dont work automatically, they need stimulation for expression. And where does that stimulation come from? other genes, Ok what stimulates those genes? IS there an end to this?

Also, it is the network of these neurotransmitters that regulates the basal brain processes, not individual genes. Even the basic human behaviors are regulated by extremely complicated networks of those proteins. Little more complex behaviors have the influence of environment plus genetics as you said. But thats about it. More complex behaviors like love, compassion, ego, determination, persistence, motivation have factors other than genetics plus environment.

More importantly, these factors are not definitive, there are many occasions where several diseases were cured just by sheer "will" and positive thinking where those neurotransmitters effects were overturned (now dont tell me that environmental factors include them, because there is no clear cut definition for that phrase). In those cases genes did not determine their fate, but their will power did. From where this will power comes and why it varies drastically from person to person is the big question. In these cases, gene expression is an effect and not cause.

For all my questions you used "genetic code" and "environmental factors" and nothing more specific than that. You have a 'belief' that science can decode the factors beyond or within genetics and environment, and I have a 'belief' that it can't. Both are beliefs and until you prove otherwise everyone is entitled to hold on to their opinions.

My case rests here...
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repeated ga seppaaa..reincarnation gurinchi, body and soul gurinchi mattaadadam ani...kaani kurrol oogipoyi topic divert sestunnaar kikk





the question of wether soul exist or not boils down to wether sperm has soul or not....just create an artificial sperm without using living beings or cells and prove your point...then i will bow down to science...
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Hello annai, ela unnaaru? Happy New Year!
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Pplsuck:

first emo incarnation, karma, re-birth is trash annaav...




...enduku pulihora kaluputunnav?

reincarnation trash annaaa...karma analedu

I'm a strong believer in the doctrine of Karma; albeit with some modifications....which is why I don't agree with western religions

I don't believe in the concept of reincarnation that is attached to the law of karma...which is where I differ with all eastern religions
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>>>>>
pplsuck goru
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

nijamgaa respect ye naa?? naakattaa anipinchatledu.....parledu cheppeyi...enduku edava mohamaatam?
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enni sinthakaayal raalaayi




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idanta kadhukani...biologists and chemists nature help lekundaa oka sperm ni create chesi..just oka artficial sperm ni create chesi...danito successful ga atleast natural womb lone oka living mammal ni produce cheyyandi......then you can say it is entirely a chemical process....oka vela future lo chestam ante me physicst friend ni kanukuni palana time ki idhi possible avutundhi cheppichandi...endukante time kooda property of material-energy universe ani cheptaaru me physicist sodarulu...so material universe lo artificial sperm eppudu create avutundho cheppagalige capacity vundaali based on their model...ivi jariginappudu we will throw all scriptures and religiously follow you
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>>>>>>
People who strongly believe in a creator God think he controls everything..
>>>>>>>>>>>>

inkoka kotha angle introduce chesaavaa malli? idi never ending thread aipoddi.....scope define cheyyi......
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LWA,

first emo incarnation, karma, re-birth is trash annaav.....nee logics avemi prove cheyyatledu annaaru kurrollu.....ippudu adi vadilesi, where are my inventions? antunnaav.......




pplsuck goru

repeated ga seppaaa..reincarnation gurinchi, body and soul gurinchi mattaadadam ani...kaani kurrol oogipoyi topic divert sestunnaar kikk
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Kamal:

it amounts to sheer arrogance if we think .. we can freakin do anything .. create anything and lastly control everything in this huuuge universe ..



Baga confuse avutunnav

I never said Humans/Science will be able to control everything..
Nobody can do that and that is the whole point

I only said, with time we will be able to explain most of the things; if not all.

People who strongly believe in a creator God think he controls everything...kikikk
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LWA,

first emo incarnation, karma, re-birth is trash annaav.....nee logics avemi prove cheyyatledu annaaru kurrollu.....ippudu adi vadilesi, where are my inventions? antunnaav.......

ancient marvels, advanced math etc etc ani vasthaaru kurrollu.......malla inkoka point meedaki jump anaali ancestors ni elaago alaa tittadaaniki......

politically and socially I can understand the need to bash everything about the ancestors and paint them black.... but what is the motivation of one to malign one's own history calling it shxit and naming their ancestors are real assxholes so vehemontly? where does this need arise from?
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enni sinthakaayal raalaayi
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rajugaru
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meeku kooda nootana samvatsara subhakankshalu
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gas station tamud ki special gaa New Year wishes
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Kamal:


picha lite .. venomous discos ivi .. basis rationality padu lekunda ..




chaa..

last thousand years lo naalugu major inventions or discoveries ani adigite...BC....AD..huientsang..aritikaya thokka...thotakoora kaada...venomous...snakes...paams...cobras...baga voogutunnav gaa..kikk
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Kamal:

what it needs is a right and correct way to pursue them with humility !




science ni question cheste pursuing with humility..
vedas ni question cheste arrogance

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Cowboy:




baa..
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Ishan:

How can you conclusively say their environments and genetic makeup are not similar?




...are you saying they have different phenotypes, but identical genotypes? is it possible by any means?
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Ishan:

TW, human genome has already been sequenced and there are approximately 40000 genes are found in it. Unfortunately for atheists, none of them expresses a protein that regulates human tendencies or emotions.




This is utterly false

what regulates the amount of dopamine, acetyl choline or norepinephrine or whatever secreted in your brain?

it is your genetic makeup coupled with environmental influences...

not your experiences from an imaginary past life
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Ishan:

however scientists agree that their psychology differs even at birth al though they are genetically identical.




that is because they have lived in the uterus for a while, before they came out

blood supply, oxygenation, posture and a host of other factors are different, even in the case of Monozygotic Twins

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Lionswalkalone:

oka industrial revolution ledu
oka green revolution ledu
Crop breeding etc chesindi ledu
medical science lo advances ledu
oka thupaaki kanipettindi ledu
kaneesam, kaneesam oka condom kanipettindi kooda ledu




chinna question, mana puranallo sahajasiddam ga kaakunda vere paddathullo puttina pramukulu endaru ?
meeru mahabharatham choosthe andulone chaala mentions untaayi. I guess during at one point of time, different techniques try chesinalu unnaru.
- to grow the fetus outside womb.
- one mother, multiple fathers.
- no mother, multiple fathers.

inka ilaantive enno. naaku perlu gurthu levu, but I think other dbers can fill in (mallosaari bharatham chadivosthaa mee punyamaa ani)
unnatural births, change of sex aa rojullo ne unnaayi ante, meeru cheppinavi emi try chesi undaru ani elaa anukuntaaru?
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New Year roju mee andarki sethulethi mokkuthunnaaa. asalu enti saameee meeeru? ekkadidhi ee knowledge? books saduvuthaaraa? oka online free book link ivvandi nenu kooda sadivi repu ee disco lo participate seyyaali pleez if paazibul.
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Mental_sachinodu:

i dont have answers to anything, i only have questions. i am an athiest to a believer and a believer to an athiest. i argue accordingly only to imporve my undestanding, i dont know where i stand. so ignore me if you guys find me stupid in your arguments.




bro .. this is what everybody is .. for today .. science has an answer for most of the "materialistic things" that happen on the boundaries of earth and probably a bit beyond it .. but thats it .. we do not know how big is this freakin universe .. how it formed .. what makes this whole universe run this way .. etc .. I do not think it is all random .. it is not even possible to understand the magnitude of things that all happen .. what is related to what etc .. its so freakin gigantic and beyond "our" comprehension .. trying to understand all this and putting it into a phenomenon is always a nice try and can be appreciated .. but thats where we should stop .. because .. it amounts to sheer arrogance if we think .. we can freakin do anything .. create anything and lastly control everything in this huuuge universe .. everybody has questions .. what it needs is a right and correct way to pursue them with humility !

Ishan annai,

thats a good explanation ..
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Lionswalkalone:

Carvaka kurrrod ki hats off seppali



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kiki....carvaka ante author anukunnava endhi kompa teesi......Wikipedia copy paste ena.....sanskrit raani prathi vadu...english intrepretation ivvatame.....







singam tamud mallee addam gaa book ayyaadu fafam
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egyptian pyramids ni aliens kattaru ani kuda oka theory chepputharu......as many feel we dont have technology at that ancient time ani..........manamu adho godala meeda pictures ni batti.......already adhi flight ani cheppalemu



bro eqyptian pyramids are a marvel. whether they ar built by humans with out any help or by taking any help, it is a wonder.

they are built with so much of geometric and pysically complex, that we will start to believe that they are divine, either you will end up agreeing that ancient civilization had amazing advanced technology or they are built with some external intelligence help.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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a great thread, thanks to lwa.

i dont have answers to anything, i only have questions. i am an athiest to a believer and a believer to an athiest. i argue accordingly only to imporve my undestanding, i dont know where i stand. so ignore me if you guys find me stupid in your arguments.

happy new year to all of you
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idhi conclusive proof kadha genetic material is not the only key for human consciousness ani cheppataniki


Absolutely.
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Annai this is called scientism....the tendency to think that science explains phenomena fundamentally...the sad state of affairs is that these so called aficionados modern science is an inferential in nature but trying to transcend into a deductive structure...which is the very notion that people here tend to reject..kiki...


You are right thammi. We know that there cannot be any knowledge without experience, for to say that knowledge is intuitive or genetically predisposed in the child, or instinctive, is what the logicians would call a "petitio principii" which is a logical fallacy.
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Clones are also identical genetically, however scientists agree that their psychology differs even at birth al





idhi conclusive proof kadha genetic material is not the only key for human consciousness ani cheppataniki
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cloning ki, twins ki emanna fundamental difference vundha...rendu cases lo DNA same kabatti features similar ga vuntayi...antekadha...please clarify


Twins are two kinds brother. Dizygotic twins are born from two different zygotes (zygote is formed when ovum or egg in female is fused with sperm of male). They are different. But monozygotic twins are exactly identical genetically because one zygote divides in to two and impregnates mother. Clones are also identical genetically, however scientists agree that their psychology differs even at birth al though they are genetically identical.
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egyptian pyramids ni aliens kattaru ani kuda oka theory chepputharu......as many feel we dont have technology at that ancient time ani..........manamu adho godala meeda pictures ni batti.......already adhi flight ani cheppalemu





naa point ante ee technologies anni ippude kothaga raledhu ..avi history lo edho oka time lo vachi poyayi
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brother, neevu echina below link lo ela antunadu.......i cant believe that which is also not realistic.......and also comedyga kuda vunnadhi.....sun ki close ga flew antey..... :D


In Greek mythology, Icarus flew too close to the sun and his wings melted, while Daedelus flew too low and crashed into the rocks. Both died in their attempts to fly.




//Another tale recounts the invention of a Greek named Archytas of Tarentum who was said to have made a wooden bird about four hundred years before Christ. This bird was powered by steam and supposedly flew about 50 feet (15 meters).//

ee sentence kooda vundandi..an american told me flying machines are present in greek literature
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Vjavasi:

http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientaircraft.html

another link on planes in ancient world




egyptian pyramids ni aliens kattaru ani kuda oka theory chepputharu......as many feel we dont have technology at that ancient time ani..........manamu adho godala meeda pictures ni batti.......already adhi flight ani cheppalemu

http://www.ueet.nasa.gov/StudentSite/historyofflight.html
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cloning ki, twins ki emanna fundamental difference vundha...rendu cases lo DNA same kabatti features similar ga vuntayi...antekadha...please clarify
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http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Prehistory/earliest_ flight/PH1.htm




brother, neevu echina below link lo ela antunadu.......i cant believe that which is also not realistic.......and also comedyga kuda vunnadhi.....sun ki close ga flew antey..... :D


In Greek mythology, Icarus flew too close to the sun and his wings melted, while Daedelus flew too low and crashed into the rocks. Both died in their attempts to fly.
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Annai this is called scientism....the tendency to think that science explains phenomena fundamentally...the sad state of affairs is that these so called aficionados modern science is an inferential in nature but trying to transcend into a deductive structure...which is the very notion that people here tend to reject..kiki....

orrke cheppala...anni telisina vadu clam ga untadu....annitiki tagina weight istadhu
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BTW, human genome has already been sequenced and there are approximately 40000 genes are found in it. Unfortunately for atheists, none of them expresses a protein that regulates human tendencies or emotions. I am also a staunch supporter of the power of logic and reason. Any philosophical concept must not defy logic and reasoning, at least relatively. However, reason can be applied only up to a particular horizon of nature and not beyond that.
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I don't know what you are trying to prove here...


Its very simple.As MS said, do you have enough proof to disprove these theories of soul and reincarnation? Do you have more concrete things than "genetic code" to prove the disparities in human tendencies? Can science concretely prove "love" with its scientific method? Any one is entitled to postulate theory and hold a belief in it until its disproved. The question of proof is within the realm of science and there are many phenomenon beyond science. Whatever science has progressed today is with regards to the materialistic universe, it has not moved a centimeter with regards to psychic phenomenon, because its impossible to apply scientific method to them. Spirituality is extremely subjective.
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brother meeru buss anukunte saripotundha...sare meeru anukunatte manaki technology emi ledu anukundam...so manaki technology ledhu kabatti life matter okate antaara......mana concepts anni tappu antaara...




mastaru lite teesukondi .. medical concepts gurinchi matladeppudu .. famous ayurveda ni marchipoyaam .. BC lo plastic surgeries chesina Susrutha, books raasina Charaka ni marchipoyaam ..

chivariki enta hatred tho koodukunna disco ante .. ancient India lo agriculture output 10 times ekkuva undedi ikkademo edo disprove cheseyyali ani .. green revolution ledu ani fakutaamu .. china ninchi vachi huen tsang lanti vaallu pichollu .. BC lo ela undi ee country ani akkada ki velli cheppadu .. appudu manani ee westerners uddarinchaaru .. 100 AD time lo silk produce chesaru .. navigation kosam .. worlds biggest ship building industry India lo undedi .. veellaki industrial revolution kaavali .. kiki

picha lite .. venomous discos ivi .. basis rationality padu lekunda ..
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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but their genetic code is not similar...and the environment in which they grew up is not similar either!!!!!!
(growing up in the same environment does not mean growing up in the same household...It means that, and much much more than that)

No two humans are raised in the same/exact environment


How can you conclusively say their environments and genetic makeup are not similar? Even if they differ, do they differ to such an extent that their attitudes are polarized to that extent? lets say such differences can cause huge differences, why are you not seeing that same trend in other families?
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busss..
oka industrial revolution ledu
oka green revolution ledu
Crop breeding etc chesindi ledu
medical science lo advances ledu
oka thupaaki kanipettindi ledu
kaneesam, kaneesam oka condom kanipettindi kooda ledu

we have mastered and propogate only one thing

"Rituals"

vinevaadu vunte matram...abbooo..maaku anni telusu




brother meeru buss anukunte saripotundha...sare meeru anukunatte manaki technology emi ledu anukundam...so manaki technology ledhu kabatti life matter okate antaara......mana concepts anni tappu antaara...
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It is true that we gradually lost vedic technology used during mahabharat times in the course of kali yuga...but we still have memory of the use of those technologies in the form of literature...this is iron age so people use degraded coarse material technology..they can't handle spiritual technology in kali yuga...that is the reason why everybody is a sudra in kali yuga..no body is high or low...In the previous yugas people who had divine spiritual technologies were naturally respected..they never demanded respect...however the advantage with kaliyuga is it is relatively easy to crossover the ocean of samsaara compared to previous yugas..that is the reason why krishna gave the gift of gita and condensed all vedic knowledge to few hundred shlokas so that confused souls of kaliyuga can easily understand and practice spiritual science without undergoing severe austerities
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Kamal:

what determines a specific genetic code for a particular human? is a random phenomenon .. can this random phenomenon be defined by an algorithm?




out of scope for discussion here
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bengal lo Muzzafarabad britishers vachinappudu london ki minchi vundedhi ani valle cheppukunnaru...bengal had thriving ship building industry till british came...indian textiles dominated european markets...European machine made textiles could not compete with indian textiles...it had advanced quality metal processing technologies...our technologies were organic and the production was more decentralized..we had 20% of world GDP in nineteenth century...Does anybody think it is possible without having technological foundations..The only difference was our technology was not driven by greed...where as the progress in western technology in 20th century is because of organised capitalistic greed....England destroyed india in every posible way...economically,technologically & culturally.....it created artificial famines and killed lakhs of indians...It destroyed village industries and pushed skilled artisans into poverty...it malnourished india..industrial revolution was financed by the loot from india




busss..
oka industrial revolution ledu
oka green revolution ledu
Crop breeding etc chesindi ledu
medical science lo advances ledu
oka thupaaki kanipettindi ledu
kaneesam, kaneesam oka condom kanipettindi kooda ledu

we have mastered and propogate only one thing

"Rituals"

vinevaadu vunte matram...abbooo..maaku anni telusu
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chal, inventions, discoveries annav kadaa..oka naalugu cheppu ani adigite sound ledu enti?




mastaaru .. levu ani kotti paaresindi meeru .. anduke mimmalni adugutunna .. meeru chadivaara .. and conclusive ga prove aipoyinda .. no knowledge from Vedas is never used in the then future evolution of man-kind .. endukante .. nenu chadavaledu .. so I cannot talk about something I do not understand .. however .. world over .. many have given Vedas - credible importance .. not just people adhering to Sanatana Dharma .. countries like Russia, Germany, UK and USA have teams studying and trying to decipher Vedas ! what makes you think so low of them .. any concrete study that totally trashes them?
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yes...not a sanatana dharma follower

confuse avvaddu

inkemanna cheppu





bengal lo Muzzafarabad britishers vachinappudu london ki minchi vundedhi ani valle cheppukunnaru...bengal had thriving ship building industry till british came...indian textiles dominated european markets...European machine made textiles could not compete with indian textiles...it had advanced quality metal processing technologies...our technologies were organic and the production was more decentralized..we had 20% of world GDP in nineteenth century...Does anybody think it is possible without having technological foundations..The only difference was our technology was not driven by greed...where as the progress in western technology in 20th century is because of organised capitalistic greed....England destroyed india in every posible way...economically,technologically & culturally.....it created artificial famines and killed lakhs of indians...It destroyed village industries and pushed skilled artisans into poverty...it malnourished india..industrial revolution was financed by the loot from india
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"chala"
chal kaadu
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Kamal:

"sanatana dharma" ki confine avudaama disco lo cheppandi .. ???





Kamal:

nenu chadavaledu .. naaku telidu .. meeru chadivaara? chadivaaka .. andulo ni knowledge ni next future inventions ki use chesukoledu ani confirmed ga cheppestunnara ippudu meeru ..????

btw .. enti cliparts lo ki digipoyaar? "kiki"




lol..thread loki nuvvu rakamundu kooda cliparts pettanu...so, ekkuvaga voohinchukoku..kikk

chal, inventions, discoveries annav kadaa..oka naalugu cheppu ani adigite sound ledu enti?
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but their genetic code is not similar..




what determines a specific genetic code for a particular human? is a random phenomenon .. can this random phenomenon be defined by an algorithm?
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Ishan:

ok so you agree that there are other factors than genetic factors that influence behaviours.




of course I do

Ishan:

ok, tell me again why sachin has become such a great batsman and his brother did not when both of them were brought up in the same 'environment'?




I don't know what you are trying to prove here...

but their genetic code is not similar...and the environment in which they grew up is not similar either!!!!!!
(growing up in the same environment does not mean growing up in the same household...It means that, and much much more than that)

No two humans are raised in the same/exact environment
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:-)Everyone's puzzle is unique - so you have to find your own answers-no shortcuts or cheatsheets on this




Happy New Year to you too!
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yes...not a sanatana dharma follower




achaa .. enti ila kooda disco chestaara .. kiki .. tippu sultan gadu koorchuni tayaru chesaada adi .. vaammo !!!

sare .. what about swords made of the finest iron in Gupta era .. scientists are saying .. even using Nano technology .. we are not able to produce that quality of iron .. "sanatana dharma" ki confine avudaama disco lo cheppandi .. ???
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Ishan:

meeru puzzle solve cheyyandi thondaraga, memu enjoy chestham...




:-)Everyone's puzzle is unique - so you have to find your own answers-no shortcuts or cheatsheets on this :-)

Happy New Year :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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machuki oka naalugu cheppandi sir..kikk




nenu chadavaledu .. naaku telidu .. meeru chadivaara? chadivaaka .. andulo ni knowledge ni next future inventions ki use chesukoledu ani confirmed ga cheppestunnara ippudu meeru ..????

btw .. enti cliparts lo ki digipoyaar? "kiki"
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Vjavasi:

.Tippu sultan even used rockets against british....




yes...not a sanatana dharma follower

confuse avvaddu

inkemanna cheppu
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It is a combination of various factors, including environmental influences


ok so you agree that there are other factors than genetic factors that influence behaviours. ok, tell me again why sachin has become such a great batsman and his brother did not when both of them were brought up in the same 'environment'?
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Not a single invention or discovery in a thousand years...but, yes..Vedas have answers for every damn thing...kikk

and yeah...we need to reject and ban everything that is western....lol




prapanchaniki lekkalu nerpindhi maname....lekkalu lekapothe veela daggara emi vundedhi boodida...itlanti inventions discoveries boledu vachayyi kalam to pate kottukoni kooda poayayi.....India had vibrant technological foundations until 19th century...what they lacked then is unity...Tippu sultan even used rockets against british....they did surgeries to soldiers who were wounded in battle field
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Kamal:

you used "probably" .. an adverb .




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Kamal:

single invention undo ledo manaki baaga telusu ..




machuki oka naalugu cheppandi sir..kikk
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Kamal:

do you even realize where it is hilarious ..




yes, I do..and I don't want to repeat it again


Kamal:

. you simply threw some stones into the dark ..




yes..I am

Reincarnation is the real science

LOL
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Lionswalkalone:

Not a single invention or discovery in a thousand years...but, yes..Vedas have answers for every damn thing...kikk

and yeah...we need to reject and ban everything that is western....lol




vaammo .. ee irrational untruths nenu vinalenu ! kiki .. single invention undo ledo manaki baaga telusu ..

second .. who the eff .. asked to reject everything western .. kala kannaama? kiki
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BJP activists andaroo Lion kurrodi meeda attack chesthunnaru yendukalaga ani adagaalani vundi!




Not a single invention or discovery in a thousand years...but, yes..Vedas have answers for every damn thing...kikk

and yeah...we need to reject and ban everything that is western....lol
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Lionswalkalone:

When I asked you about the candle, what I'm trying to tell you is...."Nature probably prefers making new living beings, rather than use old and damaged bodies over and over again"!!!!!!!!!!!




mastaru .. do you even realize where it is hilarious .. no right .. okay no issues .. let me point that and tell it to you ..

just read your statement "Nature probably prefers making new living beings, rather than use old and damaged bodies over and over again" .. what does it tell you .. nature has a way how living beings work right .. now what are those freakin nature laws that specifically apply for living beings .. are you sure .. NO .. you simply threw some stones into the dark .. you used "probably" .. an adverb .. which conveys that you are not sure of that either ! how unfortunate and hilarious .. you tell me !
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I agree genetic code is important but it is not everything...if it is so how can we explain the phenomenon of out of body experiences and near death experiences...Don't say all of them are faking
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Ishan:

If genetic makeup is directly proportional to the behavior,




who claimed that?

It is a combination of various factors, including environmental influences
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BJP activists andaroo Lion kurrodi meeda attack chesthunnaru yendukalaga ani adagaalani vundi!
CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER
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Kamal:

you yourself make heavy assumptions (you are not sure and hence used the word probably), while groping in the dark ..




lol@assumptions..
we all know that Genetic code flows..
whether you want to call it Energy or not is upto you..ani meaning...kikk
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Anand_n:

LOL - New Year Eve ki inta heavy discussion pettaru emiti - happy ga enjoy cheyyakunda


meeru puzzle solve cheyyandi thondaraga, memu enjoy chestham...
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bro...The genetic makeup of a person determines that..


Really? If genetic code is is branded on the DNA, how do you explain the changing tendencies in humans? why a person who is normal today is becoming a tellalist another day? If genetic makeup is directly proportional to the behavior, why such disparities in behavior? are the genetic codes which are pretty much determined, changing from minute to minute?
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Kamal:

dude .. why do bring "bad examples" that are not any similar to a human body .. the thing is both a candle and a battery are physical matter which are only non-living. I can always produce new matter from these non-living physical matter even if they are damaged/dead beyond repair .. mean to say .. I can use the wax of a burnt candle and change it into a new candle .. while for an expired human body .. I cannot bring it back to life without a "soul" which is intangible ..

you cannot simply equate all intangibles and use them as analogies .. please understand that each system is different .. though primarily every thing confirms to physical matter .. something called a "soul" defies this definition and hence is not governed by the same physical laws governing physical matter ! I think this is comprehensive !




This is getting hilarious...You need to step up...

When I asked you about the candle, what I'm trying to tell you is...."Nature probably prefers making new living beings, rather than use old and damaged bodies over and over again"!!!!!!!!!!!

prathidi neeku spoon feed cheyyali ante etta..

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Lionswalkalone:

that is probably the flow of "Energy"




lol .. you yourself make heavy assumptions (you are not sure and hence used the word probably), while groping in the dark ..

Lionswalkalone:

so, they came up with this concept of "soul"!




while you accuse somebodies theory to be wrong based on an assumption !
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Senapathy:


Tammud genetic code lo chala power undi. Recent development is tissue of beating heart made in labs..

Science might not explain everything but it is catching up//




Did they atleast created even a cell which has characteristics of life on their own till now....
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Lionswalkalone:

can you light a burnt/melt candle?

or would you prefer to light a new candle?




dude .. why do bring "bad examples" that are not any similar to a human body .. the thing is both a candle and a battery are physical matter which are only non-living. I can always produce new matter from these non-living physical matter even if they are damaged/dead beyond repair .. mean to say .. I can use the wax of a burnt candle and change it into a new candle .. while for an expired human body .. I cannot bring it back to life without a "soul" which is intangible ..

you cannot simply equate all intangibles and use them as analogies .. please understand that each system is different .. though primarily every thing confirms to physical matter .. something called a "soul" defies this definition and hence is not governed by the same physical laws governing physical matter ! I think this is comprehensive !
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Ishan:

Brother, what is your explanation regarding the knowledge possessed by a child how to drink milk? or a baby tiger instantaneously pounding on a deer? How do you explain the fear of death and a great number of other innate tendencies in children?

Why sachin tendulkar has become the greatest batsman and his brother did not when they were born to the same parents, received same education, brought up in the same environment?

How did that knowledge that is elusive to others is caught up by others instantaneously? where did that knowledge come from? how were those synapses formed in their brains?




bro...The genetic makeup of a person determines that...and that is probably the flow of "Energy"...
our ancestors didn't know anything about Genetic Code..(atleast, I think they did not..you can prove me wrong)..so, they came up with this concept of "soul"!

Ippudu vjavasi kurrod batteries pillalni pedtaya antunnad..eti septam..lol
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LOL - New Year Eve ki inta heavy discussion pettaru emiti - happy ga enjoy cheyyakunda :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Ishan:




Tammud genetic code lo chala power undi. Recent development is tissue of beating heart made in labs..

Science might not explain everything but it is catching up//
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Brother, what is your explanation regarding the knowledge possessed by a child how to drink milk? or a baby tiger instantaneously pounding on a deer? How do you explain the fear of death and a great number of other innate tendencies in children?

Why sachin tendulkar has become the greatest batsman and his brother did not when they were born to the same parents, received same education, brought up in the same environment?

How did that knowledge that is elusive to others is caught up by others instantaneously? where did that knowledge come from? how were those synapses formed in their brains?
All generalizations have exceptions, including this one
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Ee thread ekkadi kelli yekkadiki vetlthondi

Madhyalo naa spamming okati
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Kamal:

I know what an analogy means



Kamal:

so when can it be called "dead" ???



Kamal:



it refers to a battery specifically here !




.focus more on human body and less on batteries....

btw, can you light a burnt/melt candle?

or would you prefer to light a new candle?
"analogy"
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you can't...because they are damaged beyond repair...which is why, you make a new one...by having sex

plain old simple logic..




o.k by your logic can two live batteries produce another small battery after having sex...can that small battery grow to the size of adult battery
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Kamal:

then try inserting energy into dead bodies




you can't...because they are damaged beyond repair...which is why, you make a new one...by having sex

plain old simple logic..
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Kamal:

exactly .. so when can it be called "dead" ???




it refers to a battery specifically here !
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Lionswalkalone:

You know what "analogy" means?




I know what an analogy means .. all I did is to prove your analogy wrong ! if body + energy = living orgs .. then try inserting energy into dead bodies and turn them into living ..

Lionswalkalone:

btw, a battery is not dead like dead if it can be recharged...hehe..




exactly .. so when can it be called "dead" ???
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Nothing special about it...Our ancestors already did it in India...thousands of years ago...right?




i am asking how twins and cloning are different technically...twins are born because of natural causes...where as for cloning they manipulate nature..in both cases genetic material and all the required ingrediants are taken from life..not manufactured
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super .. I can use a dead battery and "recharge" to make it functional .. what on earth can you do to make "dead matter" come alive .. as you said your self .. it is just energy that dissipated right? so why not "insert" that energy and make bodies (matter) run longer? Can you do that?

The flaw in your logic is obvious .. you are simply playing with two intangibles - energy and soul, though two different entities and concepts .. both are invisible and intangible and hence you dare to equate those two ! not logical dude .




You know what "analogy" means? :-)

btw, a battery is not dead like dead if it can be recharged...hehe..

finally, Soul..my foot..i mean my sole
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super .. I can use a dead battery and "recharge" to make it functional .. what on earth can you do to make "dead matter" come alive .. as you said your self .. it is just energy that dissipated right? so why not "insert" that energy and make bodies (matter) run longer? Can you do that?

The flaw in your logic is obvious .. you are simply playing with two intangibles - energy and soul, though two different entities and concepts .. both are invisible and intangible and hence you dare to equate those two ! not logical dude ..




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Vjavasi:

what is so special about it...




Nothing special about it...Our ancestors already did it in India...thousands of years ago...right?
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Lionswalkalone:

A man getting old and dying is analagous to a battery that discharges itself over a period of time....The energy is probably not released in it's entirety at the time of death, but has already dissipated over a period of time....

On the contrary, a man who dies young in an accident can be equated to a damaged battery...




super .. I can use a dead battery and "recharge" to make it functional .. what on earth can you do to make "dead matter" come alive .. as you said your self .. it is just energy that dissipated right? so why not "insert" that energy and make bodies (matter) run longer? Can you do that?

The flaw in your logic is obvious .. you are simply playing with two intangibles - energy and soul, though two different entities and concepts .. both are invisible and intangible and hence you dare to equate those two ! not logical dude ..
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Lionswalkalone:

There you go...exactly..

We know that sonic wave exists because someone has proved it...not because some ancient literature has mentioned it without any proofs...

So..Burden is on you to prove; not on me to disprove




yes, but if you are convinced that there is no proof, dont fret over it. people who think there are proofs and we haven not understood them, keep looking for them.

between these to extremes there are people who believe the proofs are there, and they dont have to worry to know by themselves, and there are people who believe there are no proofs and they dont have to bother trying to understand.
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Zulu:


Monna EE Topic meeda (After live..) larryking live lo Oka discussion vachindi..Oka tella kurrod ni mugguru desi doctor kurrol(Sanjay Gupta,Deepak chopra and inkodu) evvado kalisi kummesaru..kudirithe choodu.




youtube lo vundaa? link vunte ivvandi pls
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Mental_sachinodu:

nope that was not what i was looking for.charge is not indicator of the life span.




more or less..
the whole battery thing is an analogy
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Again...Imagine...100 years ago, do you think anybody would have thought about Cloning, even in their wildest dreams?
We can do it now...exact replica of another living being......geno and phenotypically.

It did not happen in 10k years, but it did happen in the past few years..




what is so special about it...even twins look same....
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Mental_sachinodu:

there are a lot of things that our physical body cannot experience, like a sonic wave, which we all know exists, but our physical body will never be able to experience it.




There you go...exactly..

We know that sonic wave exists because someone has proved it...not because some ancient literature has mentioned it without any proofs...

So..Burden is on you to prove; not on me to disprove
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Lionswalkalone:

MS - that is called "normal Human Life Span"..




nope that was not what i was looking for.charge is not indicator of the life span.


Lionswalkalone:

Again...Imagine...100 years ago, do you think anybody would have thought about Cloning, even in their wildest dreams?
We can do it now...exact replica of another living being......geno and phenotypically.

It did not happen in 10k years, but it did happen in the past few years..




who said cloning was not imagined or dreamt. there are hundreds of stories in various cultures, that say humans have been created, but we do not consider them as valid since we cannot recreate the same today. the question here is whether we really understand what they are saying.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Mental_sachinodu:

so is there a way we can measure up the charge,




MS - that is called "normal Human Life Span"..

Mental_sachinodu:

or if we know all the ingredients to make the battery we should be able to create the battery. so what is the missing piece here to create this human battery. if its a material how could it escape the scrutiny of so many ages. if its material, why is not found anywhere else, like every other material.




Again...Imagine...100 years ago, do you think anybody would have thought about Cloning, even in their wildest dreams?
We can do it now...exact replica of another living being......geno and phenotypically.

It did not happen in 10k years, but it did happen in the past few years..
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Monna EE Topic meeda (After live..) larryking live lo Oka discussion vachindi..Oka tella kurrod ni mugguru desi doctor kurrol(Sanjay Gupta,Deepak chopra and inkodu) evvado kalisi kummesaru..kudirithe choodu.

Na udhesam..no one prove that there is life after death..in the sameway no one can prove there isnt..So sit back relax and enjoy life :-)
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Not really..but in a funny way, yes...

What he is talking about is what we all experience....when someone dies, we burn their body, and that's it...we never see or hear or experience them again in any form..do we?

His statements don't need any supporting data; he is talking about the obvious...




charvaka talked about the body, and perceptions of the human body. there are a lot of things that our physical body cannot experience, like a sonic wave, which we all know exists, but our physical body will never be able to experience it. but that hardly is a proof that sonic wave does not exist.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Lionswalkalone:


life is matter(mass) and energy..nothing else






Lionswalkalone:


life is matter(mass) and energy..nothing else





how do you explain feelings of this mass-energy combination...everybody is conscious of experiences and feelings...no physicist has proved that mass-energy has feelings
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Mental_sachinodu:

so are you intending to say charvaka had a conclusive argument!!?




Not really..but in a funny way, yes...

What he is talking about is what we all experience....when someone dies, we burn their body, and that's it...we never see or hear or experience them again in any form..do we?

His statements don't need any supporting data; he is talking about the obvious...
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Lionswalkalone:

A man getting old and dying is analagous to a battery that discharges itself over a period of time....The energy is probably not released in it's entirety at the time of death, but has already dissipated over a period of time....

On the contrary, a man who dies young in an accident can be equated to a damaged battery...




so is there a way we can measure up the charge, or if we know all the ingredients to make the battery we should be able to create the battery. so what is the missing piece here to create this human battery. if its a material how could it escape the scrutiny of so many ages. if its material, why is not found anywhere else, like every other material.

does nt it seem strange that the material is scarce enough that its not found, but the product is available in so abundance on this planet.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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then let's discuss this topic when it is possible...until then it is not proper to assert life comes form matter.....till the time life comes from life only it is logical to assert life is something different from matter




kikk

life is matter(mass) and energy..nothing else

Pplsuck..

A man getting old and dying is analagous to a battery that discharges itself over a period of time....The energy is probably not released in it's entirety at the time of death, but has already dissipated over a period of time....

On the contrary, a man who dies young in an accident can be equated to a damaged battery...
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Reincarnation ki support ga nee daggara emanna conclusive arguments vunte cheppu antunna




so are you intending to say charvaka had a conclusive argument!!?
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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we are almost there; but not quite there yet...

may be another 20 yrs or may be 200...I think we will get there





then let's discuss this topic when it is possible...until then it is not proper to assert life comes form matter.....till the time life comes from life only it is logical to assert life is something different from matter
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>>>>>
What happens with a used up battery?...What exactly is "gone" from it? Does "it" enter another battery, after a while?...kikk
>>>>>>>>>>

energy is "gone" from it.........who can track whether that "energy" is entering a new battery.......what happens to that "energy"?? anedi question ikkada....

Good at least now we are to the point battery composes "energy" apart from "mass" ........and the question is about the energy.......your carvaka is mistaking content from container emo...
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Vjavasi:

why an women's uterus is required...just create sperm and ovum using the required raw materials and decoded genetic information and fertilize them artificially...




we are almost there; but not quite there yet...

may be another 20 yrs or may be 200...I think we will get there
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>>>>>>
Flow of energy is completely different from the concept of Karma dependent reincarnation...hope you understand that..
>>>>>>>>>>>

who knows...I dont understand that concept.....I would rather keep quiet than want to believe in something
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you can produce it in a woman's uterus




why an women's uterus is required...just create sperm and ovum using the required raw materials and decoded genetic information and fertilize them artificially...
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Vjavasi:

you can produce battery in a factory....can you produce body




you can produce it in a woman's uterus
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Pplsuck:

energy and mass cannot be destroyed or created but only interchanged ani science lo antaaru........I think science is definitely influenced by those loser vedic shxit guys :-).....may be science is full of shxit.......I don't want to believe it anyways......




lol..yes..Where did I refute that? I never will..

Flow of energy is completely different from the concept of Karma dependent reincarnation...hope you understand that..
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What happens with a used up battery?...What exactly is "gone" from it? Does "it" enter another battery, after a while?...kikk





you can produce battery in a factory....can you produce body
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>>>>>>
What happens with a used up battery?...What exactly is "gone" from it? Does "it" enter another battery, after a while?...kikk
>>>>>>>>>>>

energy and mass cannot be destroyed or created but only interchanged ani science lo antaaru........I think science is definitely influenced by those loser vedic shxit guys :-).....may be science is full of shxit.......I don't want to believe it anyways......

"Energy and Mass" ani search kottu.........entha manchi manasuntey maathram, maree too much kaakapothey nee argument ni nuvvey science tho refute cheyyadam em baaledu........come up with a better argument......

Happy New Year Dude......take it easy.....velli party cheskondayyaa bachelors....
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Gajjini digaadu oogataniki

thaadu teguddi jagratta

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Pplsuck:

frame ni burn cheyyakundaa untey saripotundigaa...if life is that frame itself...if life is not frame, then what is it?




lol...good joke...

What happens with a used up battery?...What exactly is "gone" from it? Does "it" enter another battery, after a while?...kikk
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Pplsuck:

frame ni burn cheyyakundaa untey saripotundigaa...if life is that frame itself...if life is not frame, then what is it?




pplsuck bhayya .. you rock
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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10k post : why do u want to do pmp?
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>>>>>>>>
When once this frame of ours they burn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

frame ni burn cheyyakundaa untey saripotundigaa...if life is that frame itself...if life is not frame, then what is it?
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Carvaka kurrrod


ee kurrodu ekkada untadu, US or INDIA
malapalli .. India kaada? akkada problem enti -Kamal
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serious ga teesukovatam endi...





mahabharat time lo evarao vedas trash ani cheppadu ani meeru stress chestunnapudu ...atani philosophy lo productivity ki importance vundi annapudu...adhe mahabharat lo vedas ni productive ga use chesaaru kadha...ante vedas meedha atani nindalu false ane kadha
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Reincarnation ki support ga nee daggara emanna conclusive arguments vunte cheppu antunna




ee DB lo chala mandhi links pettaruga ....web lo reincaranation studies ani kodithe chala dorukutaayi..

http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/internet/personalitystu dies/case_types.cfm#CORT
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sare meeru chepinnatu mahabharatam lo charvak ni yuddhistir adesala meraku tagalapettaru anukundam...mari adhe mahabharatam vedic sciences gurunchi refernce vundhi...kauravulu puttatamu dagaranunchi....drona panadavulaki vividha shastra astra vidyalu nerpatam gurunchi...krishna sandeepuni asramam lo nerchukunna techniques gurunchi...yoddam lo vaadini sastralu...aswadhama vaadina brahmastram kooda vundhi...mari deeni antha vedas ane vallu...ante vedas ante productive ga use chese knowledge ane kadha...mari mahabharatam lo charvak vedas trash ani annadu ane daanini antha serious ga teesukunnapudu....same mahabharatam vedic technology use ni refer chesinappudu enduku serious ga teesukoru... vedas ante trash ani enduku antunnaru




vammoooooo...artham ayyetattu seppu saami...
serious ga teesukovatam endi...

Reincarnation ki support ga nee daggara emanna conclusive arguments vunte cheppu antunna
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Cocanada:

budhism ki sudden ga demand perigindi DB lo

Kamal kurrod ni thannaali pattukuni






naaketi telusu mastaru .. nijam matrame seppaali kaabatti seppa .. iga daani valla hindus kaamu anukuntama endi comedy ga .. ika vedas superiority gurinchi matlade antha arhata kooda ledu .. asalu almost 3500 years of recorded history lo "test of time" tattukuni .. enni ideologies vachina poyina nilabaddayi ante .. vaatilloni "satya" alantidi annamaata .. :-)
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Cocanada:

budhism ki sudden ga demand perigindi DB lo

Kamal kurrod ni thannaali pattukuni




caste meeda kullu joke esaav, midi midi jnananm tho...

Lokayata is completely different from Budhism..
Budhism believes in reincarnation......Lokayata does not..
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lol@beg,borrow and steal..

This thread is not about that...read my first post again
It is about
1.Body and soul
2.Aatma and Paramatma
3. Reincarnation

of course daani meeda intavaraku evaru emi post veyyaledu...

just do some bashing...ante...kikk




sare meeru chepinnatu mahabharatam lo charvak ni yuddhistir adesala meraku tagalapettaru anukundam...mari adhe mahabharatam vedic sciences gurunchi refernce vundhi...kauravulu puttatamu dagaranunchi....drona panadavulaki vividha shastra astra vidyalu nerpatam gurunchi...krishna sandeepuni asramam lo nerchukunna techniques gurunchi...yoddam lo vaadini sastralu...aswadhama vaadina brahmastram kooda vundhi...mari deeni antha vedas ane vallu...ante vedas ante productive ga use chese knowledge ane kadha...mari mahabharatam lo charvak vedas trash ani annadu ane daanini antha serious ga teesukunnapudu....same mahabharatam vedic technology use ni refer chesinappudu enduku serious ga teesukoru... vedas ante trash ani enduku antunnaru
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budhism ki sudden ga demand perigindi DB lo

Kamal kurrod ni thannaali pattukuni


Chiru/Lagadapati/RGV/OT
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http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientaircraft.html

another link on planes in ancient world
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ari atla tittam tappe kadha...tanaki vaati meedha belief lekhapothe calm ga vundaali....country ni anavasaram ga disturb chesi beg, borrow or steal philosophy ni propagate chestu tanu kooda atla chesaademo .. mari raju kabatti country sreyyassu kosam atla cheyyalsi vachindemo




lol@beg,borrow and steal..

This thread is not about that...read my first post again
It is about
1.Body and soul
2.Aatma and Paramatma
3. Reincarnation

of course daani meeda intavaraku evaru emi post veyyaledu...

just do some bashing...ante...kikk
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adega cheppedi...
vedic philosophy and vedic scholars ni thittaadu





mari atla tittam tappe kadha...tanaki vaati meedha belief lekhapothe calm ga vundaali....country ni anavasaram ga disturb chesi beg, borrow or steal philosophy ni propagate chestu tanu kooda atla chesaademo .. mari raju kabatti country sreyyassu kosam atla cheyyalsi vachindemo
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http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Prehistory/earliest_ flight/PH1.htm
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dho tappu chesi vunttadu.




adega cheppedi...
vedic philosophy and vedic scholars ni thittaadu

Advaita ni criticise chesaad
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amiani mention chesaru greek literature lo......konchamu clearga cheppu





[edit] Ancient Greece

Around 400 B.C., Archytas, the Greek philosopher, mathematician, astronomer, statesman and strategist, designed and built a bird-shaped, apparently steam powered[7] model named "The Pigeon" (Greek: ÎεÏιÏÏÎÏα "Peristera"), which is said to have flown some 200 meters.[8][9] According to Aulus Gellius, the mechanical bird was suspended on a string or pivot and was powered by a "concealed aura or spirit".[10][11]

source wikepedia
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Mahabharatha Yudham mugisi, Yudhishtarudu King ayinaaka, he ordered that Brihaspati/Charavaka should be burnt alive..and so they did....




edho tappu chesi vunttadu....anduke daniki punishment ga atla chesi vuntaaru...
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mari ramayanam lo mention chesaru planes gurunchi...greek literature lo kooda mention chesaaru...




amiani mention chesaru greek literature lo......konchamu clearga cheppu
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Vaimanika Shastra kuda elagey hype echaru manavallu.....already UFO technology mana vedas lo appudoo vunnadhi ani.....Cut chestey IISC research lo chepparu......matter ledhu....this are not aeronautically feasible ani





mari ramayanam lo mention chesaru planes gurunchi...greek literature lo kooda mention chesaaru...
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charvak krishna ki contemporary ani ekkada vundhi....krishna time period enti mee opinion prakaram




Kirshna ime period gurinchi meere cheppali...naaku emi telusu...may be around 3000 BC?..I don't know...medhavulu evaranna cheppandi

Mahabharatha Yudham mugisi, Yudhishtarudu King ayinaaka, he ordered that Brihaspati/Charavaka should be burnt alive..and so they did....
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to man-kind ani quote lo petti evariki ante em cheppali annai ..
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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but, kurrod definite ga konni mnachi views express chesadu...revolutionary views..that too in good old times..in the age of krishna





emi revolutinary views cheppadu...andari minds lo vunde views ee cheppadu..charvak krishna ki contemporary ani ekkada vundhi....krishna time period enti mee opinion prakaram
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treasure to man-kind




avariki treasure ????


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denemma jeevitam .. Vedas ani caste angle lo choostunnara !!! treasure to man-kind ! kharmai !
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Vaimanika Shastra kuda elagey hype echaru manavallu.....already UFO technology mana vedas lo appudoo vunnadhi ani.....Cut chestey IISC research lo chepparu......matter ledhu....this are not aeronautically feasible ani
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mari charvaka followers annam pettara atlanti vallaki..




boss..i don't know and i don't care... neither am I a disciple of Carvaka/Brihaspati, nor trying to endorse or promote all of his views...

but, kurrod definite ga konni mnachi views express chesadu...revolutionary views..that too in good old times..in the age of krishna
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vaarni VEDAS nunchi intha depthaaa..
maa TRIVIKRAM emo rendu lines lo cheppesthaadu..

Thinna vaadiki Jeernaniki dohada padedhi vedham
thindi leni vadiki thindi ni saadinchi pettedhi vedham ani
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kasi biddalu iyyala kooda kasi ga stars gudduthunnar kadha
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frustration and mean talk is the first sign of a weak argument





You resort to this at the slightest opportunity!!
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mana vedalu lo vishayamu takkuva......hype akkuva.......
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..Pakkana annamoo ramachandraa ani edustunna vaadiki sahayam cheyyam kaani eppudo chanipoyina mana pitru devathalaki matram pindam edataam....

ade gaa morality




mari charvaka followers annam pettara atlanti vallaki..
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1998 lono 2000 lono Amartyasen oka lecture ichadu soodari...abt the religious beliefs in the millenium something..I dont remember it....kiki......nammaleru rao gaaru meeru...baaga ibandhi pedatadhu...thama lanti vallani.....aayana




vorni...neeku alaa artham ayyindaa?? vammooooo

amartya sen lecture malli vinu...Vedantic philosophy ni baga Ekaadu..
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neeku UNESCO lectures vine alavatu unte....1998 lono 2000 lono Amartyasen oka lecture ichadu soodari...abt the religious beliefs in the millenium something..




annai .. etantad amartya sen .. kurrod staunchest and purest communist nenu soosinollalo .. hypocrisy ni veelainanta dooram edatadu ..
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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frustration and mean talk is the first sign of a weak argument and reflects the defensive state of affairs....I wont stoop to ur level in resorting to bad mouthing people about whose work I am not an expert of.....I agree carvakas and ur intrepretation of the world in true...

rest assured that all that u dont like will die soon
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Morality ki..adhere avvatam kashtam ayye prathi okkallu matlade maate gaani inko maata seppu....




...Pakkana annamoo ramachandraa ani edustunna vaadiki sahayam cheyyam kaani eppudo chanipoyina mana pitru devathalaki matram pindam edataam....

ade gaa morality
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Of course, sollu cheppi pabbam gadupukune vedantic scholars ki adi nachaledu...so, they went after them...kikk




Nijame U win....
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kikk..Madhvacharya oka book lo oka chapter rasadu ante




lol evadu rasina oka chapter ye rasadu.....carvaka literature meedha pusthakalu eda levu...references takkinchi....kiki....chivariki oka vaishanvite scholar ichina historical anecdotes okkate gathi danni...endorse cheyyataniki..

neeku UNESCO lectures vine alavatu unte....1998 lono 2000 lono Amartyasen oka lecture ichadu soodari...abt the religious beliefs in the millenium something..I dont remember it....kiki......nammaleru rao gaaru meeru...baaga ibandhi pedatadhu...thama lanti vallani.....aayana
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hey believe that man can live as they want beg, borrow or steal and should only comply to a state law coz its the only way to live with out pain...kiki...




bochem kaadu...evaru chepparu? nee vedanta gurus chepparaa?

Lokayata is all about leading a productive and purposeful life; and at the same time indulging in your senses to a certain extent called Temperance...

Of course, sollu cheppi pabbam gadupukune vedantic scholars ki adi nachaledu...so, they went after them...kikk
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I'm just talking about Aatma and paramatma bullshit...body and soul...kikk




Morality ki..adhere avvatam kashtam ayye prathi okkallu matlade maate gaani inko maata seppu....
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Max meuller ante egeskuni vache candidates...anna lutheran church mundhu deposition ichadu.....ascertaining the great wealth of vedas.......

Carvaka anedhi fictitious name annai.....the author if it was a result of one man's work was often called Brihaspathi......Caravaka's...were nihilists....ante telusu kadha????

They believe that man can live as they want beg, borrow or steal and should only comply to a state law coz its the only way to live with out pain...kiki...

It in short was also called Amoralism...they tried to pass themselves as rational atheists.....but were killed in every country they went to......

Carvakas are exact precursors of the now rampant western nihilism as propounded by Hume in modern form and by epicurus in its true form.....
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neeku inko bad neews cheppana...carvakas as the adherents were called...were staunch vegetarians...kiki.......


Carvakas were hunted down in kingdoms like china too...sob sob.....




Bad news emundi andulo?.... Jesus Christ was persecuted...so was every Sikh Guru...so were Jews....no big deal..

Inka vegetarianism is a whole different topic...

I'm just talking about Aatma and paramatma bullshit...body and soul...kikk
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world lo carvaka ane philosophy undani cheppindhe madhavacharya...who was a saint...his books are the ONLy source of existence of the carvaka literature...

Madhavacharya also writes in his book how Carvaka school of thought died with in years of its formation....




kikk..Madhvacharya oka book lo oka chapter rasadu ante...Sarvasangadarshini lo...

He refuted lokayata with ery eek arguments....

btw, Lokayata is part of Hindu/Indian philosophy; not Buddhist!!!!!!!
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max mueller lantode...sache mundhu I tampered with vedas ani seppindu...nuvvu nenu entha lite teesko
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sanskrit raani prathi vadu...english intrepretation ivvatame.....




deeniki nenu vesa 5 stars ..

reason endante .. max mueller lantollu saana interpret seskunnaru vaallaki kaavalsindi .. last ki sachipoye mundu .. am bery sorry .. i did a mistake annar .. pepancham lo attanti philosophies saana untayi .. kavalsindi correct ga enchukovadam kooda pedda sallenge ee pepancham lo anukuntunna ! ..
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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neeku inko bad neews cheppana...carvakas as the adherents were called...were staunch vegetarians...kiki.......


Carvakas were hunted down in kingdoms like china too...sob sob.....
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Vjavasi:

manam chrvak daka enduku le brother...latest marx,lenin,gora,lavanam,samaram gurunchi discuss chedam




vasi tamud
nenu communist kaadi
sorry ya
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ante carvaka ane manishey ledu antaava? LOL

neek stars guddinollu matram eppudu vini vundaru peru...definite ga

manishi peru carvaka..philosophy or school of thought peru Lokayata




manam chrvak daka enduku le brother...latest marx,lenin,gora,lavanam,samaram gurunchi discuss chedam
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tammi, neeku hatsoff asalu. ye topic ayina anarghalanga septunnav...amazing!!!
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ante carvaka ane manishey ledu antaava? LOL

neek stars guddinollu matram eppudu vini vundaru peru...definite ga

manishi peru carvaka..philosophy or school of thought peru Lokayata


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Der_schuler:

.carvaka ante author anukunnava endhi kompa teesi......




nenu anukunnanani nuvvu assume chesukunnava?...kikk

author ani evadu annadu?

He is as old as Krishna himself....

wikipedia ni madichi.....

first one was from carvaka...second from Dharmakriti....

btw, evaro stars kooda vesaru neeku, naaku...hehe
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world lo carvaka ane philosophy undani cheppindhe madhavacharya...who was a saint...his books are the ONLy source of existence of the carvaka literature...

Madhavacharya also writes in his book how Carvaka school of thought died with in years of its formation....

Rouge monastries trying to coerce budhism are credited to the formation of carvaka school
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kiki....carvaka ante author anukunnava endhi kompa teesi......Wikipedia copy paste ena.....sanskrit raani prathi vadu...english intrepretation ivvatame.....
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Believing that the Veda are standard (holy or divine), believing in a Creator for the world,
Bathing in holy waters for gaining punya, having pride (vanity) about one's caste,
Performing penance to absolve sins,
Are the five symptoms of having lost ones sanity./////////

Emi seppadu saami
keka


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Lionswalkalone:

�While life is yours, live joyously;

None can escape Death�s searching eye;

When once this frame of ours they burn,

How shall it ever again return?�//////

baga seppadu...

reincarnation believers vachi DLM's ettandi





andaru joyous ga vundali ante anukuntaaru....atla anukunna vundalekha potunnaru kabatti adhi ekkada dorukutundhi ani vetukutunnaru
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Lionswalkalone:

DLM's





ee DLM ante enti
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âWhile life is yours, live joyously;

None can escape Deathâs searching eye;

When once this frame of ours they burn,

How shall it ever again return?â//////

baga seppadu...

reincarnation believers vachi DLM's ettandi

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