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Afaik,Molestestation kindha raadhu ee case. attempted rape on minor/rape/with consent xxx under minority age, anything is wrong and serious nature
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Guttonkay:

Kamal, I agree with you however sometimes things have to be dealth with in a two pronged approached. yeppudo yedo law pass chestaru ani people can't forget about this girl or that ahole. For all we know before anything is done by govt in terms of constitution and a law this guy might die due to old age. Where is the justice to the girl and her family. As corny as it sounds chemical castration is a great idea sometimes.




I totally agree .. this idiot should not be let off .. but if you are hoping much in the form of justice in this case .. it can never be done .. he enjoyed a full 19 years in his life .. that bastardx is already 68 years old .. and if you think you can teach him and the society a lesson by punishing him, you are wrong .. we do not know how long he will live .. we do not know how long will it take for the courts to pronounce a judgement next ..

in an article written by swapan das gupta, he said .. as this person cannot be punished immediately and it so happened that he does not have much life after this .. what effectively is a good punishment is deal with his "family" like in the days of the by-gone era .. boycott the entire family .. they should be put to shame in front of humanity .. he should know .. what is the pain that little girl experienced before she killed herself ! the family that supported his wicked deeds all these days (his wife is his lawyer) should suffer the ignominy .. that to me is justice served ..
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Kamal, I agree with you however sometimes things have to be dealth with in a two pronged approached. yeppudo yedo law pass chestaru ani people can't forget about this girl or that ahole. For all we know before anything is done by govt in terms of constitution and a law this guy might die due to old age. Where is the justice to the girl and her family. As corny as it sounds chemical castration is a great idea sometimes.
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Guttonkay:




Dont get me wrong here .. let us not do the same mistake everytime, where we focus on a single case and then fight on similar cases again and again ..

push the country for judicial reform .. bring on a new constitution if needed .. case to case .. ad hoc ga deal chesinannallu .. we will face this situation ..

ippudu because it is in media and public opinion is forming against the govt, govt is saying we will file the charges again and we will deal with Rathore antondi .. but thats not going to serve the purpose .. what about those countless Ruchikas who are in the dark and who are suffering these, we need to turn our heads in that direction .. no modern society can run on silly laws passed in 1860.

the whole country has to push towards reform of law .. lekapothe oka jessica lal taravata priyadarshini mattoo taravata ruchika .. tomorrow some lakshmi in some corner of the country .. no .. that should not be the way ..
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This man needs to be in the jail for the rest of his life. If it happened in this country he would be called a child mo-les-ter and made to register as an offender.

Why is this guy getting away with molesting a kid, her suicide and the torture of her family and the million wrong cases against her brother.

What can we do? Isn't someone sending a petition or something to the PM's office? Don't know if any petition ever did any good.
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Elcaminocapastrino:

economically kaadhu....socially....lower caste valla pina ilantivi common akkada...plus caselu kooda dont hold ground...so was curious....




actually .. it has more to do with powerful vs the weak anukuntunna .. it could be that some cases lo nuvvu cheppina caste angle true avvachu .. but mostly it is strength that determines what justice you get ..

take jessica lal, priyadarshini mattoo, even ruchika now .. caste doesnt matter .. it is the strength of the offender and the crap of laws and systems in India that prevent justice
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Kamal:

financially aithe .. they were a normal middle class family .. caste telidu !


economically kaadhu....socially....lower caste valla pina ilantivi common akkada...plus caselu kooda dont hold ground...so was curious....
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Elcaminocapastrino:

And yes 6 months for a rapist is ridiculous.....




The courts and the legislature have to make many changes if the laws of rape are to be any deterrence. The sentence of punishment, which normally ranges from one to ten years, where on an average most convicts get away with three to four years of rigorous imprisonment with a very small fine; and in some cases, where the accused is resourceful or influential- may even expiate by paying huge amounts of money and get exculpated. The courts have to comprehend the fact that these conscienceless criminals- who sometimes even beat and torture their victims- who even include small children, are not going to be deterred or ennobled by such a small time of imprisonment. Therefore, in the best interest of justice and the society, these criminals should be sentenced to life imprisonment.

However, if they truly have realized their mistake and wish to return to society, the Court and jail authorities may leave such men on parole; but only after they have served a minimum of half the sentence imposed on them.

It is outright clear that sexual offences are to be excoriated, but if death sentence is given to such convicts- so as to deter the rest, then no doubt that the graph of rape cases will come down considerably- but it may also happen that those who commit such offences- simply to leave no witnesses or evidence, may even kill their victims and dispose off their bodies (whereas it is observed that in most cases- it is the victim who is the only source of evidence in most cases), thereby frustrating the main object of the Indian Penal Code and the legislature.

Studying the laws, the process, the application of those laws, one thing is certain- the entire structure of justice needs an over haul, otherwise the victim shall no longer the woman, but humanity.
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Elcaminocapastrino:

Do u know if Ruchika belong to lower class in society?




lower class meaning what? financially or by caste?

financially aithe .. they were a normal middle class family .. caste telidu !
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Basky_indya:

bongem kadhu. rathore chesina pani... tiwari pani kante too shameful.

tiwari 1000 times better than rathore




tiwar antee enduku liking?
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Kamal thammudu....Do u know if Ruchika belong to lower class in society?
And yes 6 months for a rapist is ridiculous.....
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http://www.legalserviceindia.com/articles/rape_laws.htm
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Vjavasi:

http://dailypioneer.com/225443/Shame-and-shun-men-like-Ratho re.html




very well written ..
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Guttonkay:

And since when is ok to give 6 months jail for r=ape




Please read this ..


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Seventh, ensure the early enactment of pending legislation broadening the ambit of sexual crimes, including sexual crimes against children. Between rape, defined as forced penetrative sex, and the vague, Victorian-era crime of 'outraging the modesty of a woman', the Indian Penal Code recognises no other form of sexual violence. As a result, all forms of sexual molestation and assault short of rape attract fairly lenient punishment, of the kind Rathore got. In his case, the judge did not even hand down the maximum sentence, citing concerns for the criminal's age. Sadly, he did not take into account the age of the victim and neither does the IPC, which fails to distinguish between 'outraging the modesty' of an adult woman and a young child.




Shame we even call our bull crap a law !!!

http://beta.thehindu.com/opinion/columns/siddharth-varadaraj an/article70605.ece

This is a great article .. It addresses many issues associated with rape cases and laws in India and not just this particular case ..
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The complaint against Rathore was initially made on August 16, 1990; a departmental inquiry completed on September 3, 1990, held that prima facie there seemed a basis for proceeding against him; yet the FIR was filed in 1999, and that too following a CBI inquiry. In the intervening nine years, Rathore rose to the top police job in Haryana. He even came close to getting a medal for exemplary conduct.





inthakante neecham inkoti ledhu blame govt dhe
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Guttonkay:

The worst is he only got 6 months and the court didn't even consider punishing him for abetting the poor kid killing herself.




mana govt ala edisindhi, POTA malli terichi eseyyali ilantollani
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article by swapan das gupta

http://dailypioneer.com/225443/Shame-and-shun-men-like-Ratho re.html
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The worst is he only got 6 months and the court didn't even consider punishing him for abetting the poor kid killing herself.

And since when is ok to give 6 months jail for r=ape
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Kamal:

kanna koothuri classmate ni rape cheyyadam enti ra chendaluda .. thu .. nee bathuku .. neeku ye siksha vesina takkuve .. nee lanti purugulu bhoomi ki bhaaram .. nee lanti neechula gurinchi matladithe naaku papam chuttukuntundi .. chi ..




well said bro

ila inka chala mandhi unnaru politicians, police etc feilds lo

dorikinodini dorikinattu uri teeseyyali

mana daurbhagyam entante ilanti daafar gallani kooda mana HRC vallu kanee president kani rakshinchochu law ni manage chesthe!

Kasab gadi antha krura mruganni unchutunnaru govt vallu siggundali saati indians ni champithe condolences cheppi oorukunnaru eedikemo basmati rice, comb, news papers kavalanta eedu kothaga iche color eedu bollywood hero avudaamani vachadanta india ki

Vinevadu pranab aithe cheppevadu musharaf ani ala undhi ee edava santha
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Kamal:

iddaru neechule ..




yes
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Rathore got Ruchika expelled from school, says her father

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The father of teenager Ruchika Girhotra, who was molested by former Harayana top cop S.P.S. Rathore and later committed suicide, Sunday lashed out at the ex-police official and said he used his power to get Ruchika expelled from her school.

"Rathore had illegitimately used his influential position to get Ruchika removed from the school. My daughter took admission in that school in nursery class and studied there for 13 years," S.C. Girhotra told reporters here Sunday.

"The school authorities did not give us any substantial reason behind her sudden expulsion from the school. They cited some late fees related issue as a reason behind this, which was totally baseless," he added.

Ruchika was studying in Sacred Heart School in Sector 26. Coincidently, Rathore's daughter was Ruchika's classmate in the same school.

Also lashing out at the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI), Girhotra said: "Rathore was the only reason behind the suicide of my daughter and I do not know why CBI did not include the abetment to suicide charge against him. Now we will again file a case in the higher court and appeal to include this charge against Rathore."

Lawyer Pankaj Bhardwaj, who has fought the Ruchika case free of cost for the last 13 years, said that there were many loopholes in the CBI's inquiry.

He also demanded the formulation of a separate committee to look into this matter.

"At the back of the scene, Rathore had manipulated all the facts and evidence pertaining to this case. He used his power and position to escape the wrath of police and court. The inquest proceeding report was also doctored, on his behest, to misguide the investigating agency," Bhardwaj said.

"In the inquest report, police had written the name 'Ruby' instead of Ruchika. The name of her father S.C. Girhotra was changed to S.C. Khatri. There is a mention of another name Veena Girhotra but I have not met any lady of this name till date," he said.

A special CBI court in Chandigarh had Monday held Rathore, former Haryana director general of police (DGP), guilty of molesting 14-year-old Ruchika in Panchkula town Aug 12, 1990 and sentenced him to a six-month prison term.

The budding tennis player had committed suicide three years after the incident.

"We want the government to formulate an independent committee to examine all the past evidence and records of this case to ensure a fair probe," Bhardwaj said.




http://www.dailypioneer.com/225488/Rathore-got-Ruchika-expel led-from-school-says-her-father.html

kanna koothuri classmate ni rape cheyyadam enti ra chendaluda .. thu .. nee bathuku .. neeku ye siksha vesina takkuve .. nee lanti purugulu bhoomi ki bhaaram .. nee lanti neechula gurinchi matladithe naaku papam chuttukuntundi .. chi ..
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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iddaru neechule ..
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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Basky_indya:

tiwari 1000 times better than rathore




edisinattu nee logic!

tiwari gadu enni yrs ollani nasanam chesado neeku telsinattu chepthunnave

indulo better endhi saamy, kosi karam petteyyali ila chesinodiki evadikaina
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dee.gee.pee 14 years ammai ni rxape .yak thu
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bongem kadhu. rathore chesina pani... tiwari pani kante too shameful.

tiwari 1000 times better than rathore
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The system is a rut .. period !
Sach aur saahas hai jiske mann mein - anth mein jeeth usee ki rahe ..
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http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/dec/27/ruchika-family-to- file-a-fresh-case.htm

Home ministry decided to take away the medals n cut the pension of rathore....no wait....They were asking him why cant they?
if rathore can afford a jethmalani I think he would have helped him....

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