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     Kamal Side Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 4086 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 98.212.183.18 Rating: N/A |
Well said .. kaani tappu palakadam ani ananu kaani .. manam maarpu chesukunnam telugu lo .. Hindi lo "Eshwar" .. telugu ki vachetappatiki .. "Eswarudu" aipotundi .. small changes anthe ! Har Parvat pe mani maanik nahi hote, har haathi ke maathe pe muktha-mani nahi hoti, har jungal mein chandan ke ped nahi hote, har party mein Narendra Modi jaise Mukhya Mantri nahi hote !  | ||
| Kamal Side Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 4085 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 98.212.183.18 Rating: N/A |
bhale vaare .. Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and AP had great Shiavite movements and even do have temples. especially Tamil Nadu lo Sivatatvam equally exists along with Vaishnavism. Har Parvat pe mani maanik nahi hote, har haathi ke maathe pe muktha-mani nahi hoti, har jungal mein chandan ke ped nahi hote, har party mein Narendra Modi jaise Mukhya Mantri nahi hote ! | ||
| Gandhiguevara Side Hero Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 2472 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 173.65.159.215 Rating: N/A |
Melika sa ni hindi vallu sha as in shanthi...pure telugu aithe santhi...Hyd and around santhi ni shanthi gaane pronounce chestharu...hindi impact anukunta | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 2484 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: N/A |
Mama.."melikala Sa" and "Sa" are pronounced very very differently..its almost blasphemous to substitute "melikala Sa" with Regular "Sa" Idhi english script lo explain cheyyatam kashtam..but let me try.. "Shankar" ni "mamoolu Sa" tho pronounce chesthee..it will be like be Sanka(Armpit)+ R | ||
| Mallik Moderator Username: Mallik Post Number: 9404 Registered: 10-2008 Rating: N/A |
Talent aa.. Hindi ni koodaa Telugulo maatlaade capacity neeku undi ani telusu.. but.. melikala 'sa' lekunnaa inko 'sa' undi hindi lo.. there are two 'sa' 's.. as in saregamapa and shakti..  In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 2483 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: N/A |
Very simple..Hindi,Urdu lo melisakala Sa ledu, so for them it 'Saa' or 'Shaa' We have 'Sa'..'melikala Sa' and 'Sha'.. Hindi/Urdu influence unna places lo 'Melikala Sa' is substituted with 'Sha'. Ee mathram daniki basterdized thokka ani edupu enduku..nooru adupu undadu konthamandi janalaki. | ||
| Chinni Junior Artist Username: Chinni Post Number: 256 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 216.195.21.169 Rating: N/A |
no feedback/comments ... hmm...nenemaina tappu cheppaana?! | ||
| Chinni Junior Artist Username: Chinni Post Number: 255 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 216.195.21.169 Rating: N/A |
www.kannadaaudio.com has Real streaming audio of Challakere brothers chantings. http://www.kannadaaudio.com/Songs/Devotional/home/ParatparaP arameshwara-ChallakereBrothers.php - ***** | ||
| Chinni Junior Artist Username: Chinni Post Number: 254 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 216.195.21.169 Rating: N/A |
naaku kooda ee "Si"va lo "sa" elaa correct palakadanam anedaanimeeda doubt undedi. north indians pronounce it like "sh"iva. i think we telugu people pronounce it wrong - it should sound like "shi"va. recently nenu sanskrit classes attend avutunna. guruvu gaaru(who is also a telugu) cheppadu like this - try "cha", "Cha", "ja", "Ja" and "sa" ani okEsaari varusaga palukaite vachche sabdam is "sa" - tongue position in all those aksharas will be in similar position as opposed to normal "sa" http://www.sanskrit-sanscrito.com.ar/downloads/sounds/sha28. mp3 http://www.sanskrit-sanscrito.com.ar/en/sanskrit_pronunciati on/pronunciation1.shtml Youtube lo "sri rudram" chamakam rendition by Challakere brothers(ghanapatis) - simply awesome. entire anuvakas in one breath lo chant chesinattu anipistundi. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAlKnIXf5eY in devanagari - http://sanskritdocuments.org/all_pdf/chamaka.pdf | ||
| Visakha_xpress Junior Artist Username: Visakha_xpress Post Number: 180 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 174.6.184.60 Rating: N/A |
srinivas ni Shrinivas antaaru vamsi ni vamshi antaaru idhi ekkuva hyd vallalo choostham | ||
| Okahyderabadi Junior Artist Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 419 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 71.170.131.231 Rating: N/A |
vaishnavaite or shaivite movements depended on the royal patronage in the medieval history of india. so at some time in some kingdoms it was vaishnavite and someother place it was shaivaite. | ||
| Ruj Junior Artist Username: Ruj Post Number: 588 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 24.118.242.233 Rating: N/A |
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| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2706 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
naaku telisinanthalo ade ani guess chesthunna...southern India predominantly was vaishanvite ani antaru kondaru..... | ||
| Okahyderabadi Junior Artist Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 417 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 71.170.131.231 Rating: N/A |
tur mir leid | ||
| Okahyderabadi Junior Artist Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 416 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 71.170.131.231 Rating: N/A |
 . sorry did not mean it that way. lite teesuko tammi | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2704 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
anna naaku english vachu | ||
| Okahyderabadi Junior Artist Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 412 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 71.170.131.231 Rating: N/A |
danne etymology antaru tammi, how the word originated and how it got tranformed | ||
| Ruj Junior Artist Username: Ruj Post Number: 587 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 24.118.242.233 Rating: N/A |
oh..thanks for the info..so telugu literature has more of vashnavaite influence anukovacha? alage telugulo "Shiva" ni kooda "Siva" ani rastham kadha.same reason aa?. | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2701 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
daniki manchi history undhi andi....actually shashi was the sanskrit original for moon...but Vaishnavites who strongly opposed Shiva's influence pruned "Sha" from most of their writings....if u look at most writings of Madhavacharya and Ramanuja, Moon is referred to a sasi...as oppsed to shashi which is the true sanskrit root... it is exactly the reason why sridhar is almost non existent in Hindi as opposed to Shridhar...... If u want to stay true to telugu...yes sasivadane is the right way to pronounce...as opposed to Shashivadane | ||
| Okahyderabadi Junior Artist Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 405 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 71.170.131.231 Rating: N/A |
good point, i think he was asking about the way we write in english though | ||
| Ruj Junior Artist Username: Ruj Post Number: 586 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 24.118.242.233 Rating: N/A |
Der bro..I did not understand this..both in "shashivadanam" and "Sridhar" we are using "melika sa" right? so from telugu point of view both should be pronounced as "SA" kadha? I mean as "Sasivadanam" and "Sridhar".. | ||
| Okahyderabadi Junior Artist Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 400 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 71.170.131.231 Rating: N/A |
see my response below | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2700 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
teluguki etymology multifarious kadhu....telugu lang puttindhi sanskrit nunchi..base lipi varaku...and most of the lang was built along the banks of the rivers krishna and godavari ....in the coastal districts... what telangana people speak is a bastardised form of pure telugu that is not supposed to be pronounced that way.... Tamil poet bharathi once said: " sundara thenungu"....telugu is supposedly the sweetest lang amongst all sanskrit derivatives....danni khooni chesthu malli..daniki reasons | ||
| Rasputin Moderator Username: Rasputin Post Number: 6733 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Ikkada tellollu better, Sri ani pilusthaaru, SHHri anakunda. | ||
| Okahyderabadi Junior Artist Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 398 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 71.170.131.231 Rating: N/A |
Etymology In Sanskrit grammar, Sri belongs to the feminine subjunctive gender but nowadays it is used as a masculine name prefix, equivalent to 'Mister' in English. It is gender-specific in Sanskrit, but the assumption that it is masculine has resulted in the titles of Shrimati (abbreviated Smt) for married women and Sushri for women (independent of marital status). It may also be found written in Roman script as Shri, Shree, Siri, Sree or Seri. It is used in most languages of the Indian subcontinent and southeast Asia (Indonesian: Seri,Telugu: à°¶à±à°°à±, Kannada: ಶà³à²°à³, Tamil: ஸà¯à®°à¯, Thai: ศรี or ศิริ; ). It is usually used as an honorific. It is thought that this use may stem from the Puranic conception of prosperity[citation needed] and is frequently used in Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism and Jainism. The honorific can also be applied to objects and concepts that are widely respected, such as the Sikh religious text, the Shri Guru Granth Sahib. Similarly, when the Ramlila tradition of reenacting the Ramayana is referred to as an institution, the term Sri Ramlila is frequently used. Significance Sri' is an epithet of some Hindu gods. When used as a title for gods, ÅrÄ« is sometimes translated into English as Lord. Sri Devi (or in short Sri, another name of Lakshmi, consort of Vishnu) is the devi (goddess) of wealth according to Hindu beliefs. ÅrÄ« is one of the names of Ganesha, the Hindu god of prosperity. The origin of the word Sri is traced to the account of Lord Ganesha losing his head while protecting his mother PÄrvatÄ«. This is why he is the first to be worshiped in all the yagyas.[citation needed] Current usage Sri, along with the forms Srimati and Susri, is often used by Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs and Jains as a respectful affix to the names of celebrated or revered persons. There is a common practice of writing ÅrÄ« as first word centralised in line at the beginning of a document. Another usage is as an emphatic compound (which can be used in multiple: sri sri, or sri sri sri, etc.) in princely styles, notably in Darbar Sri, Desai Shri, and Thakur Sri or as in Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, a Hindu spiritual Guru and leader. Indian Music Its usage is common as a raga name, either as a prefix or postfix. Some examples of Carnatic ragas are Sri, Dhanyasri, Malavashree, Jayantashree and Shree ranjani. Place names It is used in the name of the country Sri Lanka, in Sri Perambadur, a town in the State of Tamil Nadu, and in Srinagar where nagar, means a city. | ||
| Okahyderabadi Junior Artist Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 397 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 71.170.131.231 Rating: N/A |
hindi lo kooda surya = surya as i said we need to see the etymology rather than generalizing. | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2698 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
shashivadanam antaru....as opposed to sasivadanam.......simple and u can see the difference in the spelling of the word.... alaga SreeDhar lo "SAA" is right as opposed to "Sha"....if u spell it as SRIDHAR Sridhar ante...suryuni paryayam......suryudni...shuryudu anu ela untundhi alane sridhar ni Shridhar anatam...ardham maripothundhi | ||
| Ruj Junior Artist Username: Ruj Post Number: 583 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 24.118.242.233 Rating: N/A |
u mean melika sa right? as in sreedhar?...daanini "sha" ani palakamanaada..surprising..  | ||
| Jalsa Side Hero Username: Jalsa Post Number: 8567 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.115.29.189 Rating: N/A |
thank you annai. oka saari, paaduthaa teeyaga (don't remember the exact name of the program), SPB gaaru conduct chestundey vaaru aa show appatlo ETV lo. Andhulo oka singer paadina taruvata, eeyana cheppaaaru, telugu lo "saa" ani (letter 8 laaga unna aksharam) ni manam "saa" antaamu, kaani alaa kaadhu "shaa" anaali ani cheppaaru, i was confused too. Till data, even pure telugu vaallu kooda naa peru lo "sha" ani pilustaaru and even write like that only. correct answer ee thread lo dorukuthundhi emo choodaali. | ||
| Ruj Junior Artist Username: Ruj Post Number: 582 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 24.118.242.233 Rating: N/A |
vaaksuddhi antaru | ||
| Ruj Junior Artist Username: Ruj Post Number: 581 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 24.118.242.233 Rating: N/A |
annai that is wat der is saying..telugulo sridhar ani raasetapudu mana use chesedhi "melika sa" not "sha"..there is diff..due to hindi/urdu influence we started calling "melika sa" as "sha" hindi influence...
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| Ishan Comedian Username: Ishan Post Number: 1257 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.44.243 Rating: N/A |
telugu lo sridhar ani raasetappudu 'sha' use chestham kada...we dont use 'sa'. So pronunciation la kooda alaane 'sha' is used. All generalizations have exceptions, including this one | ||
| Ishan Comedian Username: Ishan Post Number: 1256 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.44.243 Rating: N/A |
 All generalizations have exceptions, including this one | ||
| Okahyderabadi Junior Artist Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 390 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 71.170.131.231 Rating: N/A |
it depends on the words sometimes, for example urdu lo 'sa' anedi undadu daniki badulu 'is' anedi use chestaru school ki badulu ischool antaru..because of the influence of the language. telugu language is perfect in that sense with well developed consonents, vowels etc so anni sampoornamga untayi.. alani .. etymology choodali for any word and then decide how it has come to its present form. ala generic ga edo oka work teesukoni we cannot devide. it could also be a local urdu influence for example seesam ni sheesha antaru.. could be urdu influence again. | ||
| Judge Comedian Username: Judge Post Number: 1162 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 72.208.165.32 Rating: |
shankaraabharanam wont be the same anymore jonnannamu jonnarotte jonnaambali jonna gattuka jonnale tappan sannannamu sunni sunni | ||
| Okahyderabadi Junior Artist Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 388 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 71.170.131.231 Rating: N/A |
vaakshuddhi antara vaaksuddi antara? cheppandi | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2692 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
especially people from Hyd...etc....."sreenkarama"...ki "shreenkarama" ki chaala teda undhi kadha ....telugu pondika..... why does "sha" dominate some people's accent...any regional reason...... most of them pronounce it as Shatruvu.....which clearly is not the way it is ought to be spelt |
