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Okahyderabadi
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Read why Telangana is being demanded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkivNybmZac&feature=PlayList& p=A047BE79EF2F7558&index=0&playnext=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKmyTgT0kSo&feature=PlayList& p=A047BE79EF2F7558&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=1

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* Gouthami day ••• residential school




ikkada erra sukkalendukochay....school perulo buthaaa?
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Okahyderabadi:




any more additions?
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Okahyderabadi:




Chevella Govt degree college
Started 2008

Ibrahimpatnam Govt Degree college
Started 2008

Tandur Govt Degree college
Started 2008

Hayatnagar Govt Degree College
Started 2008

All these govt degree colleges

none of these colleges have funds allocated not infrastructure.

go figure out. These colleges were declared after this issue was brought up in the assembly due to representation from the residents of R.Reddy (*ahem****).
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Govt.degree college-T\M,E\M




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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tandur

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Tandur
Tandur
Location of Tandur
in Andhra Pradesh and India
Coordinates 17°14′N 77°35′E / 17.23°N 77.58°E / 17.23; 77.58
Country India
State Andhra Pradesh
District(s) Rangareddy
Population 57,943 (2001[update])
Time zone IST (UTC+5:30)
Area
• Elevation
• 450 m (1,476 ft)

Tandur is a municipal town and mandal in Rangareddy district in the Indian state of Andhra Pradesh. Tandur is 125 km from Hyderabad through Bus route and 110 km through train route. This is largest town in western Rangareddy district and largest Muncipality in Rangareddy dist. It is famous for stone industries, cement industries and Redgram production. Many education centres located here. Drinking water is supplied from River Kagna, which is 4 km from the town. Tandur town is part of tandur assembly constituency and Chevella loksabha constituency. P. Mahender Reddy of Telugudesham party is present MLA of Tandur assembly constituency. Previous MLAs of this constituency were served as ministers in state cabinet (M.manik Rao and M.Chandra Sekhar).


Education
[edit] Schools

Tandur has good number of Schools imparting Primary and Secondary Education in both Telugu and English Medium. Some of them are :

* Government High School No.1, Tandur (Telugu & Urdu Medium) (6th to 10th)
* Gangothri Vidyalaya Tandur [GVT], Hyderabad Road - English Medium - LKG to 10th Standard
* Gowthmi model school-English medium-LKG to 10th standard
* Haji Adam Khan School
* Sri Krishnaveni Talent School (E/M) LKG to 10th standard
* New Nalanda High School, formerly known as New Nalanda Public School [NNPS].
* Sri sai saraswathi vidya mandir -L.K.G to 10th standard
* Sri Saraswati Shishu Mandir - Telugu Medium - LKG to 10th Standard
* St. Marks High School - English Medium - LKG to 10th Standard
* Vijaya Vidyalaya High School (VVHS) - Telugu Medium
* William Moon High School - L.K.G to 10th standard (estd in 1953)

[edit] Colleges

* Govt.Jr College -- Telugu
* Govt.degree college-T\M,E\M
* People's Degree College - Both Media
* Ambedkar Centenary Junior College - Both Media
* Gouthami day residential school
* Sai Degree College - Both media
* Shalivahana Degree College ----- Both Media
* Siddhartha Jr College--Both Media
* Sindhu Girls Jr College--Both Media
* Sree Chaitanya Junior College - Both Media
* Vedic Visitha - The school
* Vignan Junior College - Both Media
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Kachhitham gaa MEDAK, RR la lo Degree colleges ye CUDDUPPAH kannano takkuve untay as they are very very very close to HYD and many RR or MEDAK people may still be studying in HYD.....but jara lekka jusi cheppe nijam gaa Ranga Reddy la GOVT DEGREE COLLEGE leda?




there is no GOVT DEGREE COLLEGE. how are vikarabad, tandur etc close to hyderabad? how does it matter if it is closer to hyderabad? can all the people travel and live in hyderabad to attend the colleges?
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/di yekkada nundi techhina lekka? TANDUR, VIKARANAD, PARIGI, CHEVELLA yekkada GOVT Degree colleges levaa? Are you sure of this?/

Poli mama, naaku deeni gurinchi pedda gaa details teliyadu gaani... aa madhyaloo mana DB loo youtube video loo Harish Rao mana Assembly loo yevoo documents pattukoni full gaa arisaadu... and this was one of his points! I don't know if this is true or not?
CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER
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Kachhitham gaa MEDAK, RR la lo Degree colleges ye CUDDUPPAH kannano takkuve untay as they are very very very close to HYD and many RR or MEDAK people may still be studying in HYD.....but jara lekka jusi cheppe nijam gaa Ranga Reddy la GOVT DEGREE COLLEGE leda?
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OkaHYD

"Rangareddy - govt degree college --> 0 "

Idi yekkada nundi techhina lekka? TANDUR, VIKARANAD, PARIGI, CHEVELLA yekkada GOVT Degree colleges levaa? Are you sure of this?
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ANDHRollu dabbulundi saduvukunnaru anoddu....even SEEMA vallu dabbu lekunna baane chaduvukunnaru and % is higher for their population than to your population....




guntur - govt/aided degree colleges --> 28
kadapa - govt/aided degree college -->26
krishna - govt/aided degree colleges -25+

Rangareddy - govt degree college --> 0
medak - 7

ekkada chaduvukuntaru tammi? sadukundamante paisalu levu, govt college lu levu. Rangareddy jilla vallu - tandur, vikarabad nundi, sangareddy(medak dist) ki vachi chaduvukuntaru.

iga cheppu tammi
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ANDHRollu dabbulundi saduvukunnaru anoddu....even SEEMA vallu dabbu lekunna baane chaduvukunnaru and % is higher for their population than to your population....
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OkaHYD

"can you tell me of any infrastructure projects that the govt took up in the state capital until the population in the city started exploding in the early 90's.
- Nobody ever questioned as to why there is a population influx in to the above companies, these are all central govt/ state public sector companies in most of the cases. However the grievance again is as per the agreements in place the first preference was to be given to the locals. It did not happen. IF THIS HAD HAPPENED i am sure there would be more people from telangana region who would be employed today. leading to prosperity. "


First of all facts telsukoni matlaadu brother! Early 90s yendi? Peddayana 1983 lo gelchinappati nundi HYD dasa infrastructure wise maaratam modalaindi....started with beautification projects and than continued with Road widening and FlyOver projects!! KHAIRATABAD, BEGUMPET FlyOvers started construction somewhere around 1985!! DILSUKHNAGAR, SAIDABAD, AMBERPET, MEHADIPATNAM etc road widening started around 1986!!

Yenti Public sectors lo locals aa? For public sectors LOCALS ante yevaru? Mee inti gallilo valla? LOCALS ante state population (not a sub Region population)!!!! Late 1980s like 1985-87 Dr Reddy's, Divi's, NATCO.....ila chala Pharma/Drug companies pickup avatam, Kushaiguda lo electronic related industrial area form kavatam, small/mediam range companies form kavatam, MUSLIM voilence taggi city pai confidence build ayi more and more SEEMANDHRA nundi migrate avatam tho MAHARDASA pattukundi city ki!!

Idantha ANDHROlla daurjanyama? Meeru yenduku chaduvuko ledu? Oorla lo ZPTC schools lo chaduvukoni paiki ochhina vallu chala mandi unnar...meeru yenduku chaduvuko ledu?
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OkaHyder annai.......nee thread title ki naadhi kooda oka queation vundhi neeku......

Hyderabad,Rangareddy,Khammam,mahaboobnagar and rest of Telangana endhuku Kalisi oka state avvali?

You Answer....... then i will question again
Ooyi Telugu Vaada..... Manadhi Velugu vaada..... Nadiminta thagadhu Goda
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Indiarocks:

Okahyderabadi:

it is a failed example of lack of empowerment despite its riches again a corrupt leader taking the people for a ride.. de ja vu
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The situation right now indicates that Telangana, if formed, has more chances to be another Jharkhand, for the same reasons, corruption, insincerity.




ok sorry i had to take a break and visit the temple. I see that this thread has been active with brothers posting quite a lot let me try to answer some of them


Jharkand is a tribal dominated state while telangana is not. You cannot compare a jharkhand to Telangana.



Dts:

- state creation anedi start ayindi.
>>> That's where this inferno has begin. Do you think it's +ive sign of development?
------ somewhere the change has to happen
- just go and check how much development is in Chattisgarh capital in 5 years
>>>> First of all it depends on perception. I know people who swing to the contrary. Moreover, Chattisgarh is not Telangana they did not see this much revolt against its formation.
----- irrespective of what you or I think, it has developed there are independent reports that qoute the same. They are very comparable each separated from a larger state and similar issues.


- hitech city etc came up in last 10 years.
- all the hitech development you are talking around that place happened in last 10-12 years
>>> you need to remember that this happened as United Andhra not only as being part of Telangana. Ignorance of Andhra's contribution is sign of nativity.
------- nobody invested because it is in United Andhra, they invested in 'HYDERABAD'





Indiarocks:

This is skewed...you have discounted the pluses of larger states and shown the smaller ones as poster children...

If AP is the rice bowl Punjab is the wheat field.

Gujarat was prosperous long long ago - Ahmedabad was the Manchester of the east, people entrepreuners across the world pre-independence as well. When we lived there 30+ years ago - every household on our street had a relative(s) overseas and pumped money into the state..

States with resources and with the clout to get funds will develop

----- On the contrary I just quoted those states to show their lower MP count but emergence as leaders after division.
----- punjab before it division comprised of today's Haryana, Himacharpradesh. They have 10 representatives in LS.
----- Gujrat separated from Bombay and currently has only 26 reps but has continued to maintain its growth levels.

-----Himachalpradesh separated from Punjab primarily agrarian progressed from a mere 7,940 million rupees in 1980 to 254,350 million rupees in 2007. Their GDP is based on agriculture 45% of their GDP is from agriculture - they have 4 Mps from their state

---- Karnataka -- this had no industrial base to begin with, it was primarily agrarian. This is one of the few states. Karnataka, which had an estimated GSDP (Gross State Domestic Product) of about Rs. 2152.82 billion ($ 51.25 billion) in the 2007-2008 fiscal year. This has only 28 MPS form 29 districts.


---Uttarpradesh - 80 MP sets, where is in terms of development today?
we can keep going on and on.

---Westbengal -42mp seats, where is it?

so the number of MP's i think do not have a bearing on how much development happens.

Karnataka with 28 mps stands among the first in funds utilization because the funds/efforts percolate to the grassroots. resource utilization is the key. unfortunately we kept spending money where there was already development and the rich kept getting richer and few people got more richer.








Idle_yzag:

kammam ni andhra lo kalipithe geographical ga all set.. bongoledhu yevadooo gottam Naizam gadu pettina Hyd State lo vunna 16 dists lo 6 dists Karnataka and Maharastra ki ichesnappudu, 1 dist 50 yrs kalisi vunna manaki ivvalera ani adgaliani vundi? :D




You already have 13 districts with you if you take Seema along with you. Why should Khammam be made part of the new state.


Dts:

Let's say as per Telangana professors Andhra people are looting water, let say you separate state and with the help of 17 MPs out of 540+ MPs you get your approvals for projects the very next second the state has formed and lets say you completed your project with the help of your honest MLAs say in 10 years, now if you turn back and look at where you are, you just ended up where you started. You've gone back 10 years and the so branded Andhra looters will loot no matter what, 'cause a state boundary cannot stop them.




Even if we stay with the same set of MP's there is no guarantee that the same will not happen again. We are better off getting the projects done on our own. The water will be equitably distributed according to the existing agreements as the implementation will be done under the supervision of two state water boards. Thokkalo MP's ALMATTI lo em peekaru , BABLI lo em peekaru with 42 MP's. So you suggest we should get 30 or 40 more MPS. If Himachalpradesh with 4 MP's and Punjab with 10 mps can workout river water agreements and implement them WTF were the guys doing? they were mighty happy because they were anyway getting more than their share of water.


Dts:

There are so many "needs to be done" in your previous post, why cannot they be done now? People won't do things with zeal unless they are self sufficient, one need to provide some livelihood i.e., you need an investor to initiate work. If you have investors why investors did not come forward now. Why investors are concentrating ONLY Hyderabad. In other words why has your attraction stopped at Hyderabad why didn't it go beyond?




---- it cannot be done in the current setup period. if it could be done it would have been done by now. atleast after the previous agitation there should be been some change. it will never happen with the kind of numbers telangana has in the AP legislative assembly.
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Okahyderabadi:

it is a failed example of lack of empowerment despite its riches again a corrupt leader taking the people for a ride.. de ja vu




The situation right now indicates that Telangana, if formed, has more chances to be another Jharkhand, for the same reasons, corruption, insincerity.
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Okahyderabadi:

- Andhra pradesh - rice bowl, already rich before industrialization kicked in big time

lets take the smaller representation states

- Karnataka
- still beats the sh*t out of other cities in terms of Software, hardware etc
- still has agriculture

Gujrat
- does not need any introduction

punjab
- agrarian state, small sized, medium sized industries




This is skewed...you have discounted the pluses of larger states and shown the smaller ones as poster children...

If AP is the rice bowl Punjab is the wheat field.

Gujarat was prosperous long long ago - Ahmedabad was the Manchester of the east, people entrepreuners across the world pre-independence as well. When we lived there 30+ years ago - every household on our street had a relative(s) overseas and pumped money into the state..

States with resources and with the clout to get funds will develop :-)
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>>>>>>>>you seriously need a civics lesson..<<<<<<<<<<

I was serious and curious to know for you. Let me know. Start your lessons.
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>>>>>>>>>
1. The democratic systems are different.
2. People follow the rule of law. LAW IS SUPREME. A bill that gets signed is implemented in TOTO.
3. major infrastructure is govt owned - rivers,damns, roads are driven by govt
4. People are empowered, they have a say in everything concerning them except few things. even for a business to setup a shop for example: a walmart in a neighbourhood they need to have 'people ye or nay'.
5. leaders are visionary - check how many times their constitution has been amended against us. federal structure is strong.
6. we are divided based linguistic, regional, cultural, religious beliefs
<<<<<<<<<<<


That's the reason why I said don't compare with USA. I don't see any contradiction to my statement here.
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Dts:

>>>>>>>>it is a failed example of lack of empowerment <<<<<<
What is empowerment? How is it defined in Indian constitution?




you seriously need a civics lesson..
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How?
1. The democratic systems are different.
2. People follow the rule of law. LAW IS SUPREME. A bill that gets signed is implemented in TOTO.
3. major infrastructure is govt owned - rivers,damns, roads are driven by govt
4. People are empowered, they have a say in everything concerning them except few things. even for a business to setup a shop for example: a walmart in a neighbourhood they need to have 'people ye or nay'.
5. leaders are visionary - check how many times their constitution has been amended against us. federal structure is strong.
6. we are divided based linguistic, regional, cultural, religious beliefs

many more reasons.
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>>>>>>>>it is a failed example of lack of empowerment <<<<<<
What is empowerment? How is it defined in Indian constitution?
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Why take Chattisgarh as an example, why not Jharkhand?




it is a failed example of lack of empowerment despite its riches again a corrupt leader taking the people for a ride.. de ja vu
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Okahyderabadi:

- just go and check how much development is in Chattisgarh capital in 5 years




Why take Chattisgarh as an example, why not Jharkhand?
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AP ni seperate country cheyyali..with andhra,telangana..rayalaseema as seperate states, Hyderabad will be made our National capital...ani cheppalani undi.
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Okahyderabadi:

bad comparision.



How?
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Okahyderabadi:

- state creation anedi start ayindi.




state creation start ayinda...go

Cong HC word games are working.
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- state creation anedi start ayindi.
>>> That's where this inferno has begin. Do you think it's +ive sign of development?
- just go and check how much development is in Chattisgarh capital in 5 years
>>>> First of all it depends on perception. I know people who swing to the contrary. Moreover, Chattisgarh is not Telangana they did not see this much revolt against its formation.

- hitech city etc came up in last 10 years.
- all the hitech development you are talking around that place happened in last 10-12 years
>>> you need to remember that this happened as United Andhra not only as being part of Telangana. Ignorance of Andhra's contribution is sign of nativity.
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Most importantly Indian constitution is not designed for smaller states. Look at US, they have only 2 senators for any state no matter what size they are both population wise or area wise. But India is different, smaller states need to associate with other states in order to get control over central government.




bad comparision.
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>>>>>>if your capital city is more than 100 miles from you, <<<<<
You cannot just build a New York over night, or with a political leader's hunger strike. You should have a plan and the division should be seamless. Have you mentally prepared people for division? That's the big question here. Just prepare people mentally and convince that division for benefit. Then the need of separate state comes from both sides. Hence the luxury becomes necessity. As of now new state is only for the luxury of KCR and his supporters.




- state creation anedi start ayindi.
- just go and check how much development is in Chattisgarh capital in 5 years
- hitech city etc came up in last 10 years.
- all the hitech development you are talking around that place happened in last 10-12 years
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Again, people get confused with the words "governance" and "administration". Congress says that they can only give good governance and TDP says CBN is the best administrator. Each and every MLA think that they are the rulers.

But that not true. Let me reiterate, an elected MLA/MP/MLC are just representative not a Governor or Administrator or an official. CBN is not an IAS officer he needs to understand that he's just a representative.

Empowerment to grass root level means not making everybody representative or MLAs. But making everybody master of their lives. That can be achieved by self sufficiency and there are ways to achieve. Representation is not a way to achieve empowerment rather obey somebody's power. But nowadays representatives act as though they were rulers that's where people are getting mislead.
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Most importantly Indian constitution is not designed for smaller states. Look at US, they have only 2 senators for any state no matter what size they are both population wise or area wise. But India is different, smaller states need to associate with other states in order to get control over central government.
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>>>>>>if your capital city is more than 100 miles from you, <<<<<
You cannot just build a New York over night, or with a political leader's hunger strike. You should have a plan and the division should be seamless. Have you mentally prepared people for division? That's the big question here. Just prepare people mentally and convince that division for benefit. Then the need of separate state comes from both sides. Hence the luxury becomes necessity. As of now new state is only for the luxury of KCR and his supporters.
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Judge:

Dts:

I don't know why you guys are spending so much time researching to prove separation is beneficial. If dividing is such beneficial then our investors would have divided Indian into million states no matter what people think.

sustainability kuda undali kadhaa. there is too big and too small. if your capital city is more than 100 miles from you, you probably need a new one.

also read this-
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/%5Care-smaller-s tates-better-governed%5C/379686/




This article perfectly demonstrates the issue. Just by being BIG or SMALL you dont achieve anything. Its about empowerment and grass roots activism. This has failed miserably in bigger states. Take out the IT boom, what else do we have in AP? All of those industries mentioned are just white elephants on the economy, they provide employment but what about the products that come our of most of them excepting BHEL, HAL and few others? You know the answer.
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Okahyderabadi:

conviction lekapote nothing can be done. There are lot of young people coming out with good education and a zeal to do something but did not have the avenues because of the situation. I am sure people will come out and rebuild the state.




Yes, conviction lekapothe united state aina, separate state aina okkate. Who is stopping the same ppl from coming out and build their districts?
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---Okahyderabadi

There are so many "needs to be done" in your previous post, why cannot they be done now? People won't do things with zeal unless they are self sufficient, one need to provide some livelihood i.e., you need an investor to initiate work. If you have investors why investors did not come forward now. Why investors are concentrating ONLY Hyderabad. In other words why has your attraction stopped at Hyderabad why didn't it go beyond?
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Dts:

I don't know why you guys are spending so much time researching to prove separation is beneficial. If dividing is such beneficial then our investors would have divided Indian into million states no matter what people think.


sustainability kuda undali kadhaa. there is too big and too small. if your capital city is more than 100 miles from you, you probably need a new one.

also read this-
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/%5Care-smaller-s tates-better-governed%5C/379686/
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>>>>>>reality is T is most likely to happen.<<<<<<<<<

I am not contradicting that, but what about development T-as a separate state? Do you hope or confirm that to be reality?





Why not - telangana has got everything in other areas but not utilized/developed
- land is present, irrigation needs to be done
- power generation present NTPC - needs to be expanded
- satellite towns like -warangal, karimnaga,nizambad,medak, sangareddy,Siddipet, Gajwel, Bhongir etc etc have got potential to improve.
- infrastructure development in all those areas gives economic development to people living around.

conviction lekapote nothing can be done. There are lot of young people coming out with good education and a zeal to do something but did not have the avenues because of the situation. I am sure people will come out and rebuild the state.
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>>>>>>>>If dividing is such beneficial then our investors would have divided Indian into million states no matter what people think. <<<<<<<<

To prove my above argument, you know very well that to gain profit the builders don't even hesitate to build a multi-storied building in just 100 sq. yards throwing huge amount of money to owner who would have owned 150 sq. yards. People are willing to live in 50 sq. yards for the sake of profit. So investors welcome division if its profitable.
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>>>>>>reality is T is most likely to happen.<<<<<<<<<

I am not contradicting that, but what about development T-as a separate state? Do you hope or confirm that to be reality?
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Okahyderabadi:



I don't know why you guys are spending so much time researching to prove separation is beneficial. If dividing is such beneficial then our investors would have divided Indian into million states no matter what people think.

Let's say as per Telangana professors Andhra people are looting water, let say you separate state and with the help of 17 MPs out of 540+ MPs you get your approvals for projects the very next second the state has formed and lets say you completed your project with the help of your honest MLAs say in 10 years, now if you turn back and look at where you are, you just ended up where you started. You've gone back 10 years and the so branded Andhra looters will loot no matter what, 'cause a state boundary cannot stop them.
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reality is T is most likely to happen.
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Okahyderabadi:


Hope is different and reality is different.
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To summarize:
1. This is not an important issue. Whether or not the state is divided it does not in any way affect common man. --> this does makes a lot of difference to common man atleast in telangana
2. It's more of a sentimental issue than materialistic. --> comedy
3. If we are dividing in amicable way, then why do we need division in the first place? Divisions cannot happen among friends only enemies divide. --> not true, even families divide, it does not mean you are enemies
4. KCR is not the right person to judge whether or not a state should be divided. --> this is true, but it is now a people movement
5. KCR has not proved to be a successful representative of people. His hunger strike provoked people which is senseless. --> it has provided a medium to the undercurrent that is all
6. Hyderabad will be in a state of unrest for coming 50 years. --> i wish all of us could see in to future that far




thank you for your views, unfortunately situation is not that simple.
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Okahyderabadi:



To summarize:
1. This is not an important issue. Whether or not the state is divided it does not in any way affect common man.
2. It's more of a sentimental issue than materialistic.
3. If we are dividing in amicable way, then why do we need division in the first place? Divisions cannot happen among friends only enemies divide.
4. KCR is not the right person to judge whether or not a state should be divided.
5. KCR has not proved to be a successful representative of people. His hunger strike provoked people which is senseless.
6. Hyderabad will be in a state of unrest for coming 50 years.
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I've put my ideas in another thread:

Does India need another state?
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1. MP's strength is getting divided.
2. Hyderabad is ummadi asthi
3. Development issues in other areas of the state including coastal,seema,telangana.
4. water sharing issues (added based on other threads)
5. No port facilities for Hyderabad
6. No coal mines for Andhra
7. No industrial land for Andhra
8. No water for Telangana, increased costs of creating projects
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ok, looks like friends want to discuss about hyderabad and others things at one shot

Hyderabad is ummadi asthi

comments from friends

1) 42 mandi MPs ni state nundi pamputhu kuda Center mana ni pattinchukovatle....ika okaru 17, okaru 25 mandi ni pampithe dikku undadu!

MP's strength tho rashtraniki peddaga origedi emi ledu ani telipoyindi. You get budgetory allocation based on your GDP's and your revenue contribution.

2) 1950s lo state form chesinappudu HYD mee capital ika chukondi mee baagogulu annaru! Ala ne BHEL, HMT, HAL, IDPL, IDL, NFC, ECIL, HCL, ICRISAT, NRSA, DRDL, DMRL, DLRL, MIDHANI, MINT lanti vi 1950 tarvatha ANDHRA PRADESH capital lo pettaru! LACS of people migrated to work in these companies! Ee Companies ki 610 G.O.varthinchadu and COUNTRY mottam nundi and ala ne ANDHRA nundi ochhi cheraru!! Similarly STATE CAPITAL ani State Govt kuda yentho vechhinchi yenno chesindi!! This city is in the midst of TELANGANA and RR, MEDAK, MBNR, NLG lo lands ki rekkal ochhi chala mande paisal chesukunnar!! Inni jarigaaka ee CITY ki meeku sambandham ledu anedi BIGGEST ANAITIKA cherya!!
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State capital avatamu moolana
BHEL, HMT, HAL, IDPL, IDL, NFC, ECIL, HCL, ICRISAT, NRSA, DRDL, DMRL, DLRL, MIDHANI, MINT

hyderabad ki vachinavi

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3) Telangana and Andhra vidi pothe ANDHRA ki COAL....TELANGANA ki COAST undav!! Naa strong GUT Feeling is TELANGANA ki yekkuva debba...as T'GANA is a strong NAXAL infested area and also HIGH Minority population! TELANGANA ki debba!! So automatic gaa HYD lo unna anni pranthala vaariki loss as with seperation city's charm will come down and every one attached to city will loose!!!

Similarly STATE CAPITAL ani State Govt kuda yentho vechhinchi yenno chesindi!!

Realities:
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- can you tell me of any infrastructure projects that the govt took up in the state capital until the population in the city started exploding in the early 90's.
- Nobody ever questioned as to why there is a population influx in to the above companies, these are all central govt/ state public sector companies in most of the cases. However the grievance again is as per the agreements in place the first preference was to be given to the locals. It did not happen. IF THIS HAD HAPPENED i am sure there would be more people from telangana region who would be employed today. leading to prosperity.

The problem is:
- you guys had lands that had water, you had govt run degree colleges etc that gave you good education.
- no govt colleges in the ratio compared to andhra side, no water to cultivate the lands. So only source of income would be to find jobs in the industries. BUT because of being at a disadvantage of not having better schooling or bad financial state and not being able to afford private schools (not that there were many) people had no other way. So no water to cultivate lands and no jobs to work because ______________. so we got *&#&*&# both ways.

- the same issue is there for R Seema people. Even though 25 yrs of the time from where got statehood until CBN and YSR became CM's there is no development there. They compensated for that by factionism and later kabza's around growing towns(no denying this).

- Telangana being NAXAL infested? any particular reasons that you can share? Naxal problem/Factionism is a socio economic problem. The backwardness of the region is due to it. For that matter where did Naxal'ism start in AP? It started in the Agency areas of Srikakulam. why because they got screwed. Who took it to the next level? Kondapalli Seetharamaiah - Krishna Dist. Today it is rampant in those areas because of territorial advantage rather than anything else. This can be take care of not an issue at all.

Why is there no naxalism in the coastal districts? you known the answer by now.


GMHC lo kukatpally, sanjeevareddy nagar, vengalrao nagar, vanasthalipuram, malkajgiri etc areas lo huge pockets of andhras are present, i am not disputing that but just because of that you cannot claim that it can be declared as a separate zone.

- Telangana lo minority population is HIGH - The minority population is consistent with the national average - 14%. This is not considered high. In the last 50yrs it has not changed much.


- Telangana ki coast ledu so daniki debba - MP, delhi, Rajasthan, JK, Punjab, Haryana etc ki kooda levu. vatiki debba padinda?

- Andhra ki COAL ledu - you have GAS, why do you need COAL? Vizag steel plant ki kavalsindi vere states konnattu meeru konukkuntaru or GAS ki badulu COAL istamu.

- Andhra owned asthula ki there is no protection is not a valid argument. I am sure in this current situation it is happening but its all in the heat of the moment.

My solution for Hyderabad is this:
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- Let us make it shared capital for ever -
- Let us take the benami lands owned by the bada rajs, babus,mohans,rao's that were brought from poor farmers and return it to Telangana state.
OR
- Let us make it a UT for 10 years
- Let us take the benami lands owned by the bada rajs, babus,mohans,rao's that were brought from poor farmers and return it to Telangana state.
- if other people who brought lands would like to dispose them off, they will be paid market rate(&@#&(%)*@($^) its ok if you dont agree for this.
- Shared capital between andhra and telangana for 10-15 years,option to revist after 7 years.
- Seema to be given an option to join T or Andhra or split 2-2 districts(sorry kattulu tiyyakandi.. its ok if you dont agree).

- Central Allocation(one time package) for separate capital and infrastructure - border of kadapa-nellore-prakasam
- Income from Hyderabad will be shared 50-50 by the two states for 10 yrs
- Income from Vizag will be shared 50-50 by the two states for 10 yrs
- income from Kakinada port will be shared 50-50 by the two states for 10 yrs
or
- Income from Hyderabad will be shared 80-20 by the two states for 10 yrs
- Income from Vizag will be shared 20-80 by the two states for 10 yrs
- income from Kakinada port will be shared 20-80 by the two states for 10 yrs

- Irrigation projects(Pranahita-chevella), bheema implemented in areas of Telangana and other projects like Jurala phase 2 in karnatka-Rayalaseema according to the Krishna water agreements and Godavari river agreements.
- private mining taken out in Seema and NMDC develops and markets the output to create revenue for the state. This will improve the revenue as well as provide sustainable, social employment instead of exploitation.
- Drinking water requirement of coastal districts supplemented by - sea water recycling plants
- sea based power generation for the new state that is formed.
- Polavaram project to be completed based on recommendations of technical committee rather than political whims and fancies. If it needs to be a anacut it needs to be just that, this will prevent submersion of precious land.

please add your points. I know lot of people will D** me but lets start a discussion
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1. MP's strength is getting divided.
2. Hyderabad is ummadi asthi
3. Development issues in other areas of the state including coastal,seema,telangana.
4. water sharing issues (added based on other threads)
5. No port facilities for Hyderabad
6. No coal mines for Andhra
7. No industrial land for Andhra
8. No water for Telangana, increased costs of creating projects
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ok, looks like friends want to discuss about hyderabad and forget about everything else . Lets start the discussion.
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Moviefan84:

Ehe.. sollu kaburlu aapi bottom line pettu.. Oke okka point...





Tenali_rk:



Tenali_rk:

So, it all boils down to GHMC region....Nothing more nothing less...




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Okahyderabadi:

Okahyderabadi:


1. MP's strength is getting divided.
2. Hyderabad is ummadi asthi
3. water sharing issues (added based on other threads)
4. No port facilities for Hyderabad
5. No coal mines for Andhra
6. No industrial land for Andhra
7. No water for Telangana, increased costs of creating projects
8.
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11.
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13.
14.




Ehe.. sollu kaburlu aapi bottom line pettu.. Oke okka point...

1. Hyderabad ni kotteyadam
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"Calling Db'ers to give reasons for their views on Enduku Kalisiundali. Please summarize"

1) 42 mandi MPs ni state nundi pamputhu kuda Center mana ni pattinchukovatle....ika okaru 17, okaru 25 mandi ni pampithe dikku undadu!

2) 1950s lo state form chesinappudu HYD mee capital ika chukondi mee baagogulu annaru! Ala ne BHEL, HMT, HAL, IDPL, IDL, NFC, ECIL, HCL, ICRISAT, NRSA, DRDL, DMRL, DLRL, MIDHANI, MINT lanti vi 1950 tarvatha ANDHRA PRADESH capital lo pettaru! LACS of people migrated to work in these companies! Ee Companies ki 610 G.O.varthinchadu and COUNTRY mottam nundi and ala ne ANDHRA nundi ochhi cheraru!! Similarly STATE CAPITAL ani State Govt kuda yentho vechhinchi yenno chesindi!! This city is in the midst of TELANGANA and RR, MEDAK, MBNR, NLG lo lands ki rekkal ochhi chala mande paisal chesukunnar!! Inni jarigaaka ee CITY ki meeku sambandham ledu anedi BIGGEST ANAITIKA cherya!!

3) Telangana and Andhra vidi pothe ANDHRA ki COAL....TELANGANA ki COAST undav!! Naa strong GUT Feeling is TELANGANA ki yekkuva debba...as T'GANA is a strong NAXAL infested area and also HIGH Minority population! TELANGANA ki debba!! So automatic gaa HYD lo unna anni pranthala vaariki loss as with seperation city's charm will come down and every one attached to city will loose!!!
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Okahyderabadi:

I hurted. please post your arguments about the issue identified




Nuvvu nee sincere effort bedtunnav...


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Okahyderabadi:



I hurted. please post your arguments about the issue identified
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Okahyderabadi:



ok revising the list based on the comments here

1. MP's strength is getting divided.
2. Hyderabad is ummadi asthi
3. Development issues in other areas of the state including coastal,seema,telangana.
4. water sharing issues (added based on other threads)
5. No port facilities for Hyderabad
6. No coal mines for Andhra
7. No industrial land for Andhra
8. No water for Telangana, increased costs of creating projects
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Lets take point number 3
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Okahyderabadi:

1. MP's strength is getting divided.
2. Hyderabad is ummadi asthi
3. water sharing issues (added based on other threads)
4. No port facilities for Hyderabad
5. No coal mines for Andhra
6. No industrial land for Andhra
7. No water for Telangana, increased costs of creating projects
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So 1: The number of MP's bearing a much larger influence in center anedi is not a very valid argument anedi naa argument. Everybody talks of the strength of MP's being the yardstick. How is UP developed today with 80 MP's? or westbengal?

The allocation of state budgets happen based on the state GDP. Andhra's GDP is $62 billion in 2005( ante enni kotlo lekka cheyali).
1000 million = 1 billion
mana AP economy country ki contribute chesedi:2790000000000000 Rs @45/rupee, if my calculation is right. If wrong please correct me.

Manaki vachevbudget 1lakh crores.

em peekutunnaru 42 mandi MP's? .

Everybody agrees that all the major infrastructure projects in this country are not private investments, they are funded by government + world bank loans + other loans - i.e debt financed. The rest of the investments in the state that generate this type of revenue is from private investments.

This hype of MP's getting divided and we lose voice is flawed. It does not matter how many MP's there are, Tamilnadu has less number but they have more clout, same with punjab, delhi state and elsewhere.

any points to add?
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Hyderabad issue pakkana pettinaaa

NDA time lo....AP had special preference
UPA time lo kuda AP has special preference

Hyderabad is a symbol of our pride

aa strength pokunda undaali ante we should have 42 MPs from our state

We are A grade state now. We dont want be reduced to the stage of Assam or himachal pradesh
Chiru/Lagadapati/OT
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Okahyderabadi:

tammi nuvvu nenu discuss chestamu antane this is just for sake of clarity.
Hyderabad main issue ani andariki already artham ayindi. There are other issues as well and I just wanted to highlight.

I never said there are no other areas that do not have developmental issues elsewhere.




OK....Please continue....Then we can discuss
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Krishnasekhar:

we telugu are always under one rule. complete ap ga undakapovachu majority is under one rule. nizamu elalekha cedded, circar zillalu nu first french ki tarvatha british ki ichesadu.

bharat desma antha kalisi oka country ela vundali anukuntamo telugu jathi oka state la vundali anukuntham. kalisi unte kaladu sukahm. 5 yelu bgisthene pidikili.




ultimately andaramu indians aa level lo unity unte chalu. lets get back to points
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we telugu are always under one rule. complete ap ga undakapovachu majority is under one rule. nizamu elalekha cedded, circar zillalu nu first french ki tarvatha british ki ichesadu.

bharat desma antha kalisi oka country ela vundali anukuntamo telugu jathi oka state la vundali anukuntham. kalisi unte kaladu sukahm. 5 yelu bgisthene pidikili.
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Tenali_rk:

Dhaarkaar:

too much clarity tho vunnaru..



FAUX(FOX) News channel type lo We Report You decide typla..

Report jestundu....Remix jesthundu....Decide bhi jestundu



tammi nuvvu nenu discuss chestamu antane this is just for sake of clarity.
Hyderabad main issue ani andariki already artham ayindi. There are other issues as well and I just wanted to highlight.

I never said there are no other areas that do not have developmental issues elsewhere.
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Ninna Karim Nagar lo government tenders ki piliste Andhra nunchi tender eyyataniki vachinollani aDDukunnaru anta. Public mindset ala maarathandi ea leaders valla. Inka memu sufferers ani bullet points petti disco chesthe em use. State split kosam public lo leaders rechagotte hatred eppatiki taggadu. Vidipothe inka problem in future. KarimNagar vallani rest of Andhra lo business cheyyoddu ani evaranna annara..chass
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Machomegastar:

Machomegastar:

mana contry lo mana hyd super fast develop avuthanudi. IT hub of country antunte evadikian properties vunna lekunna they feel proud of hyd!!

even in usa lo kooda clinton bush tho saha syberabad ante andariki tesuslu

mana hyderabAd mana heyderbad super ani andaru anukntaru!!!

so iipud aa hyd manadi kakunda pothunde ane feeling vaste chala badha padtharu janalu!!!

Machomegastar:

ippudu software jobs vunnadi bomaby delhi, pune, b/lore chennai, hyderabad

raj thakre gadu ee madya bombay vallu tappithe vere vallu jobs cheyoddu antunnadu be it software or any orher job

alane reppodduna chennai vadu b'lore vadu kooda alane ante andra seema vallu ekkada jobs chesukunatru hyd lekapothe!!!


Okahyderabadi:



can you answer to above things




babay, Hyderabad is on the agenda, I said lets discuss all the things objectively. When the issue of Hyderabad is addressed I will bring in all these points.
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Dhaarkaar:

too much clarity tho vunnaru..




FAUX(FOX) News channel type lo We Report You decide typla..

Report jestundu....Remix jesthundu....Decide bhi jestundu
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Tenali_rk:

You mean Srikakulam, Vijayanagaram, Mahabub Nagar, Anantapoor




add prakasham. motham coast antha nimmagadda prasad ki raasi ichesadu mana devudu CM. chaala backward areas vunnayi ee dist lo kooda.
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Okahyderabadi:

Treating one part of the state as untouchables and giving the other part preferential treatment leads to issues.




You mean Srikakulam, Vijayanagaram, Mahabub Nagar, Anantapoor
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Okahyderabadi:

The idea is, the state needs visionary leaders who without regional affiliations develop it there by giving equal opportunity to all the people of the state. Treating one part of the state as untouchables and giving the other part preferential treatment leads to issues.




Enduku kaaka ee sodi poo matalu....
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Okahyderabadi:


too much clarity tho vunnaru..
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Machomegastar:

mana contry lo mana hyd super fast develop avuthanudi. IT hub of country antunte evadikian properties vunna lekunna they feel proud of hyd!!

even in usa lo kooda clinton bush tho saha syberabad ante andariki tesuslu

mana hyderabAd mana heyderbad super ani andaru anukntaru!!!

so iipud aa hyd manadi kakunda pothunde ane feeling vaste chala badha padtharu janalu!!!



Machomegastar:

ippudu software jobs vunnadi bomaby delhi, pune, b/lore chennai, hyderabad

raj thakre gadu ee madya bombay vallu tappithe vere vallu jobs cheyoddu antunnadu be it software or any orher job

alane reppodduna chennai vadu b'lore vadu kooda alane ante andra seema vallu ekkada jobs chesukunatru hyd lekapothe!!!




Okahyderabadi:




can you answer to above things
peoples star YSR amar rahe!!!
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Okahyderabadi:




guys please lets make this a discussion rather than slanging match, there are other threads where we had our voice.. please. lets discuss objectively.
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Ok so lets go point by point now since I did not get any more reasons. Since most of the points are focused around 'Hyderabad' I will leave that to the end and discuss the other points first

1. MP's strength is getting divided.
2. Hyderabad is ummadi asthi
3. water sharing issues (added based on other threads)
4. No port facilities for Hyderabad
5. No coal mines for Andhra
6. No industrial land for Andhra
7. No water for Telangana, increased costs of creating projects
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MP's strength is getting divided: Current strength of MP's from Andhrapradesh is 42 and hence we are in a strong position than other states.

There are potentially 17 other states in the current setup who have lesser number of MP's than would be in case of division

Mizoram State 1
Nagaland State 1
Pondicherry State 1
Sikkim State 1
Arunachal Pradesh State 2
Goa State 2
Manipur State 2
Meghalaya State 2
Tripura State 2
Himachal Pradesh State 4
Uttarakhand State 5
Jammu and Kashmir State 6
Delhi State 7
Haryana State 10
Chhattisgarh State 11
Punjab State 13
Assam State 14
Jharkhand State 14
Kerala State 20
Orissa State 21
Rajasthan State 25
Gujarat State 26
Karnataka State 28
Madhya Pradesh State 29
Tamil Nadu State 39
Bihar State 40
Andhra Pradesh State 42
West Bengal State 42
Maharashtra State 48
Uttar Pradesh State 80


If we take the case of the states that have larger number of MP's than us tell me which states are doing better?
UP?
Maharashtra - always ahead of us industrially

take the same or close to number of states
- Bihar - where no man wants to go(until Nitish came in)
- TNadu - remnants of Presidency already had lot of built up stuff, they are all united for their state irrespective of parties
- West Bengal -- indias dump
- Andhra pradesh - rice bowl, already rich before industrialization kicked in big time

lets take the smaller representation states

- Karnataka
- still beats the sh*t out of other cities in terms of Software, hardware etc
- still has agriculture

Gujrat
- does not need any introduction

punjab
- agrarian state, small sized, medium sized industries

it keeps going on and on.

The idea is, the state needs visionary leaders who without regional affiliations develop it there by giving equal opportunity to all the people of the state. Treating one part of the state as untouchables and giving the other part preferential treatment leads to issues.


TO BE CONTD
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ippudu software jobs vunnadi bomaby delhi, pune, b/lore chennai, hyderabad

raj thakre gadu ee madya bombay vallu tappithe vere vallu jobs cheyoddu antunnadu be it software or any orher job

alane reppodduna chennai vadu b'lore vadu kooda alane ante andra seema vallu ekkada jobs chesukunatru hyd lekapothe!!!
peoples star YSR amar rahe!!!
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mana contry lo mana hyd super fast develop avuthanudi. IT hub of country antunte evadikian properties vunna lekunna they feel proud of hyd!!

even in usa lo kooda clinton bush tho saha syberabad ante andariki tesuslu

mana hyderabAd mana heyderbad super ani andaru anukntaru!!!

so iipud aa hyd manadi kakunda pothunde ane feeling vaste chala badha padtharu janalu!!!
peoples star YSR amar rahe!!!
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Cocanada:

annai

barbarian panulu cheyaledaaa?

cinemalu aapadam, carlu, lorry lu pagalakottadam..."bhago andhrawalo"

endhi ivvanneee

they are not a position to rule themselves




That can happens anywhere( esp..HOSTEL STUDENTS in SKU and AU are also doing Deeksha's)....It has nothing to do with a Region....

Bhago is a 1 Rupee Prostitute's venom bursting...
Oka T-Sympathizer Kadupulo Vunna Sodhara Prema....
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Tenali_rk:

Please do not use those kind of words....That is totally uncalled for...




annai

barbarian panulu cheyaledaaa?

cinemalu aapadam, carlu, lorry lu pagalakottadam..."bhago andhrawalo"

endhi ivvanneee

they are not a position to rule themselves
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naakodukuni road meeda battalippi thannali.




Aaa dhinam enno rojulu ledhu....
Oka T-Sympathizer Kadupulo Vunna Sodhara Prema....
Announcement at Secunderabad Rlwy Station:
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KCR gaadi dialogue: andhra/Seema llo jarigevi sponsored vudyamalanta. aademma lethukoru edava, eedu eellaki naayakudu, thoo.. eedi juice drama ki OU batch oka 500 to 1000 cheri chesindi spontaneous reaction, akkada prathi dist lo spontaneous ga velamandi roads meedaki vachi chesedi sponsored. migatha janamante eediki entha chulakana. naakodukuni road meeda battalippi thannali.


totallly agree, andaru pani M vadileskoni spontanous ga vasthara? HarishRao, Etlaa OU students ki sponsor chesinappudu yevadi gudielo vunnadu, lathkur nayalu ee KCR
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Cocanada:

It has been proved that T ppl do not have enough maturity to run things




Please do not use those kind of words....That is totally uncalled for...
Oka T-Sympathizer Kadupulo Vunna Sodhara Prema....
Announcement at Secunderabad Rlwy Station:
Vijayawada kelle Satavahana Express Platform No 2 nunchi konni nimushamulalao bayaludherunu. Ekkina A..... Prayanikulu malli HYD thirigi rakoodadhani maa vignapti
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Okahyderabadi:

Enduku Kalisiundali. Please summarize




It has been proved that T ppl do not have enough maturity to run things. People are still innocent and bad tempered. Malli Nizam time lo laagaa ayipotundi
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Tenali_rk:

thats why spontaneous outbursts throughout Andhra/Seema....No one instigated them...




KCR gaadi dialogue: andhra/Seema llo jarigevi sponsored vudyamalanta. aademma lethukoru edava, eedu eellaki naayakudu, thoo.. eedi juice drama ki OU batch oka 500 to 1000 cheri chesindi spontaneous reaction, akkada prathi dist lo spontaneous ga velamandi roads meedaki vachi chesedi sponsored. migatha janamante eediki entha chulakana. naakodukuni road meeda battalippi thannali.
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kammam ni andhra lo kalipithe geographical ga all set..




asalu Khammam dist lo plebiscite pedithe samaikyavadam thirugu lekunda gelusthundi. khammam dist vaallaki T kante andhra tho relations ekkuva in general.
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Okahyderabadi:

Enduku Kalisiundali




No State lost its Capital in bifurcation (Jharkand,Chattisgarh,Uttaranchal)...So the so called backward districts of erestwhile states got New states, but not the Capital....In those assemblies, the bifurcation resolutions were passed convincingly....

HYD antey 23 jillalu vollu gidhi maadhi ani anukoni vacchindru....Incl my father...

To be told, you need to get out Or you have no stakes since it has been capital of old Hyd Province....That is hard to convince..thats why spontaneous outbursts throughout Andhra/Seema....No one instigated them...No Deeksha started the Bandhs

So, it all boils down to GHMC region....Nothing more nothing less...
Oka T-Sympathizer Kadupulo Vunna Sodhara Prema....
Announcement at Secunderabad Rlwy Station:
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A S lalo 90% jananiki Hyderabad peru vinatame tappa Ela vuntundo kuda teliyadu - RamReddy DamodarReddy.




aadi parri. ittanti konda naayallantha elected representatives avvadam mana dourbhagyam.
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GHMC ni vidagotti either common capital (which is unlikely due to geographical location) chesina


kammam ni andhra lo kalipithe geographical ga all set.. bongoledhu yevadooo gottam Naizam gadu pettina Hyd State lo vunna 16 dists lo 6 dists Karnataka and Maharastra ki ichesnappudu, 1 dist 50 yrs kalisi vunna manaki ivvalera ani adgaliani vundi? :D
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meeru vidpotham antam ledu, mamalni pommantunaru,




EXACTLY. akkadaki edo manam kalisi vundali ani vooooo thega feel avuthunnattu veella maatalu. akkada meeru vidipotam ledu, mammalni dobbeyamani antunnaru. anduke malli chepthunna, leave hyderabad on its own (don't include in either state) then who gives a rat's xxx for your T. go for it.
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People from all over the state has inseparable relation with Hyderabad.




A S lalo 90% jananiki Hyderabad peru vinatame tappa Ela vuntundo kuda teliyadu - RamReddy DamodarReddy.
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Idle_yzag:

meeru vidpotham antam ledu, mamalni pommantunaru, particularly from hyd coz 50 yrs ga "MANA CAPITAL CITY" anukoni vachi investment or settle ayani vallani, so hyd aka Capital city referendum is needed






tammi that point is already taken, lets move on give more points if you can think of
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atleast you are clear with ur stands.




nene kaadu bro. AP lo majority janam opinion ade. GHMC ni vidagotti either common capital (which is unlikely due to geographical location) chesina, UT chesina no problem samaikya vaadulaki. paiki evademi cheppina atu T vaallaki, itu rest of the state ki Hyderabad is the point of contention. daani sangathi thelisthe it's very easy. People from all over the state has inseparable relation with Hyderabad. adi thelchakunda T ante reaction ilage vuntundi mari.
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meeru vidpotham antam ledu, mamalni pommantunaru, particularly from hyd coz 50 yrs ga "MANA CAPITAL CITY" anukoni vachi investment or settle ayani vallani, so hyd aka Capital city referendum is needed





Oka T-Sympathizer Kadupulo Vunna Sodhara Prema....
Announcement at Secunderabad Rlwy Station:
Vijayawada kelle Satavahana Express Platform No 2 nunchi konni nimushamulalao bayaludherunu. Ekkina A..... Prayanikulu malli HYD thirigi rakoodadhani maa vignapti
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Okahyderabadi:

Enduku Kalisiundali.


meeru vidpotham antam ledu, mamalni pommantunaru, particularly from hyd coz 50 yrs ga "MANA CAPITAL CITY" anukoni vachi investment or settle ayani vallani, so hyd aka Capital city referendum is needed
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Calling for more reasons. Lets get more reasons and then analyze
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lo Industries ki Land leda.




attanukunte...nizamabad, Kammam,Nalgonda, Warngal, Karim nagar lalo Cultivation cheyytaleda....neellu D sasu ani ani enduku Godava.
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kalisi vundatam istam lekapothe vidipommanandi, no problem. kaakapothe rest of the state vaallani hyderabad nundi pommanataniki T vaallaki ledu. hyderabad ni separate chesina, UT chesina, common capital ga pettina migatha vaallaki no problem anukunta. hyderabad lekunda T ni repu poddune immanandi, who cares.




tammi, lets discuss the issues. mana boku opinions ki evaru value ivvaru gani still lets bring out the points and summarize it and understand them. too many things discussed in different threads and I just wanted to summarize it in one place.

It could well be that Hyderabad may be a UT and TRS has to agree if they want Tstate but lets discuss.
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T ni repu poddune immanandi, who cares.//

apapti daka enduku .

spot lo ivvamanu .

who cares . vallaki povali ani vunna appduu pomanu .

malli maku hyd kavali thokka kavali nasukudu enduku .
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A lo Cultivated Land, Industries ki Land ledu...


Prakasham, Palnadu, Srikakulam, Vizianagaram, Vizag, Kadapa, Anantapur, Kurnool and Chitoor lo Industries ki Land leda.
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1. MP's strength is getting divided.
2. Hyderabad is ummadi asthi
3. water sharing issues (added based on other threads)
4. No port facilities for Hyderabad
5. No coal mines for Andhra
6. No industrial land for Andhra
7. No water for Telangana, increased costs of creating projects
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hyderabad lekunda T ni repu poddune immanandi, who cares.


atleast you are clear with ur stands.
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kalisi vundatam istam lekapothe vidipommanandi, no problem. kaakapothe rest of the state vaallani hyderabad nundi pommanataniki T vaallaki ledu. hyderabad ni separate chesina, UT chesina, common capital ga pettina migatha vaallaki no problem anukunta. hyderabad lekunda T ni repu poddune immanandi, who cares.
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ok Summarizing

1. MP's strength is getting divided.
2. Hyderabad is ummadi asthi
3. water sharing issues (added based on other threads)
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A lo Cultivated Land, Industries ki Land ledu...
T lo Industries ki land vundi, Water paiki tevalante ekkuva karchu...

2 ga vidi pote T ki okka port kuda ledu....A ki okka Boggu gani kuda ledu...

Ala 2 states inBalance avutuayi....

Biryani lo Vuppu Takkuvaina TASTE Vundadu kada....alage TELUGU Valla lo UNITY Lekapote DEVELOPMENT Vundadu.
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memundedi hyderabad...maa tatha garu vallu machilipatnam...yedavadi vidipothe STD phone call paduddi paisal bokka :D
baava cheppina satyam


naa annalu akkalu andari manchi kori septunna...STAY AWAY FROM SALEEM
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Tamillollu 39 mandi
Bengali li 42 mandi
Kannada vallu 29 mandi
Marati vallu 30+ mandi MPs vundi Full lobbying to Central projects D potunte....

Manam matram 17 + 25 ayyi week avvatam deniki....Oka vela anni states ni divide chesinappu mana kuda 2 ga avudam
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Nippu
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vidipothe ind-pakistan lagha kakunda vundataniki.

mana mps naakudu apapithe 42 mps vunna state gha centre lo value vuntadhi mana mataki state ki edanna chesukovavhu.
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Okahyderabadi:


nee per lo unnadani kosam, meek telangana kooda andukey ga
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