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Kamal
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Iamim:

whats the big deal...




Indians were not made to kneel down before those "followers" .. kiki

Idle_yzag:

we know what to do and when to do




agree .. what will u do and when will u do ..
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Iamim:

Emperor Chandragupta himself married Greek princess Helena in ancient times.. Vivekananda.. Gandhi.. had white lady followers.. whats the big deal...





Did he allowed her to rule his kingdom..was she declared queen..they followed them not the other way...
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telugu jati meedha prema vunna vadu evadu..oka videshi mahila daggara self-respect ni takattu pettadu...




Emperor Chandragupta himself married Greek princess Helena in ancient times.. Vivekananda.. Gandhi.. had white lady followers.. whats the big deal...
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FCUK BJP Congress.. here Telugu jati as a whole is going down the loo.. waterloo.. shitloo...





telugu jati meedha prema vunna vadu evadu..oka videshi mahila daggara self-respect ni takattu pettadu...
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Iamim:



Hinduism is inherently Secular.. a Hindu who is not Secular has middle eastern genes...




it depends on the other side..it can be secular for secular people and it can behave as mahakala towards destructive forces
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telanga will be congress's waterloo...ika nunchi anni debbale tinali congress




FCUK BJP Congress.. here Telugu jati as a whole is going down the loo.. waterloo.. shitloo...
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Vjavasi:

mundu telangana gurunchi alochinchandi...entha kalam vallani mosam chestaru...telanga will be congress's waterloo...ika nunchi anni debbale tinali congress


thanks meeru mulana kurchunte manchdi, we know what to do and when to do
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Idle_yzag:

ya ya already susam mee pratapam... inko 5 yrs mulana kurchondi, manaki vote veyakapothe sychos, lol





mundu telangana gurunchi alochinchandi...entha kalam vallani mosam chestaru...telanga will be congress's waterloo...ika nunchi anni debbale tinali congress
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Iamim:


Indira.. Sanjay.. Rajiv.. PV.. Sonia.. Rahul.. all are soft Hindus...





we don't need pretenders....they are worse than enemies
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Vjavasi:

only psychophants and pretenders vote for congress...emotional idiota are better compared to these fixers and manipulators


ya ya already susam mee pratapam... inko 5 yrs mulana kurchondi, manaki vote veyakapothe sychos, lol
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Iamim:

So they have fallen back to sinister game of divide and rule.. dividing Hindus in the name of small states.. tribes.. castes.. by raking up passions.. only emotional idiots vote for BJP.. to make people emotional they have to rake them up..




only psychophants and pretenders vote for congress...emotional idiota are better compared to these fixers and manipulators
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truth in parts ..




Middle eastern genes different from Italian and Iranian genes...
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Iamim:

Sanjay.. Rajiv.. Sonia.. Rahul..



Iamim:

has middle eastern genes...




truth in parts ..
Garv se kaho - hum Hindu hain
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Oh Lord .. suddenly secular credentials of Congress disappeared like a fart in the air




Hinduism is inherently Secular.. a Hindu who is not Secular has middle eastern genes...
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Iamim:

For BJP Ayodhya was just a Duck laying golden eggs.. PV let them kill it.. since then BJP has run out of steam with no issues..

So they have fallen back to sinister game of divide and rule.. dividing Hindus in the name of small states.. tribes.. castes.. by raking up passions.. only emotional idiots vote for BJP.. to make people emotional they have to rake them up..

Nothing special about PV and soft Hindutva..

Since the times of Gandhi Congress had soft Hindutva.. Rama Rajya.. Swarajya.. Grama Rajya..

Nehru had a different personal inclination.. but he did not impose his personal beliefs on the nation though he had enormous power to do so.. thats his tolerant magnanimity..

Indira.. Sanjay.. Rajiv.. PV.. Sonia.. Rahul.. all are soft Hindus...




Oh Lord .. suddenly secular credentials of Congress disappeared like a fart in the air ..
Garv se kaho - hum Hindu hain
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For BJP Ayodhya was just a Duck laying golden eggs.. PV let them kill it.. since then BJP has run out of steam with no issues..

So they have fallen back to sinister game of divide and rule.. dividing Hindus in the name of small states.. tribes.. castes.. by raking up passions.. only emotional idiots vote for BJP.. to make people emotional they have to rake them up..

Nothing special about PV and soft Hindutva..

Since the times of Gandhi Congress had soft Hindutva.. Rama Rajya.. Swarajya.. Grama Rajya..

Nehru had a different personal inclination.. but he did not impose his personal beliefs on the nation though he had enormous power to do so.. thats his tolerant magnanimity..

Indira.. Sanjay.. Rajiv.. PV.. Sonia.. Rahul.. all are soft Hindus...
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Cocanada:

maa brother pelli ayindi. velli ocha




ekkada .. ? US lo pelli na? ABCD na? leka Amru (Videsi) pillani vivaham chesukunnada? :D
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Elcaminocapastrino:

He was the one in a responsible position.....Rajiv is a grade one assxole...we are not talkin about him....Iam talking about the righteousness ness of PV and him ignoring the riots n busy with greeting foreign officials visitin desham for indhirammas funeral.....Nor did he raise a voice if his hands were tied up by the PMs office....accept....he is morally responsible...



Kamal:

he is on the side of a party which trigerred the riots .. aa riots ki .. if at all you want to make him responsible for not being efficient enough in clamping down the security establishment .. I am all for it




collective ga responsible chesta antava .. ok .. no probs .. the govt of the day failed .. but honestly .. if a PM wants the riots to go on .. no other person in the country can save .. the whole administration is under him .. so .. in reality .. he need not be found wrong in that context !
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Zulu:

PVN meeda eenadu sridhar oka cartoon vesadu..
Ayana pedhavi virachadoo viravaledoo cheppatam kastam andi, endukante ayana moothe antha..ani




haha .. asalu PV meeda cartoons highlight .. aa moothi ni darunam ga kindaling chesevaaru ..

Zulu:

Okate complaint PM ga pramana sweekaram telugu lo cheyyaledu




.. Baba soosara .. Zulu ID nenu hack seyyaledu .. :D
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Kamal:

but he did not device the riots .. nor did he fuel them ..


He was the one in a responsible position.....Rajiv is a grade one assxole...we are not talkin about him....Iam talking about the righteousness ness of PV and him ignoring the riots n busy with greeting foreign officials visitin desham for indhirammas funeral.....Nor did he raise a voice if his hands were tied up by the PMs office....accept....he is morally responsible...
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PVN meeda eenadu sridhar oka cartoon vesadu..
Ayana pedhavi virachadoo viravaledoo cheppatam kastam andi, endukante ayana moothe antha..ani

Any PV Rocks..telugu bidda goppatanam desam antha chatadu..
Okate complaint PM ga pramana sweekaram telugu lo cheyyaledu
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Kamal:


Coca annai .. enti sangatulu .. vaarantam emi sesaav? :D




maa brother pelli ayindi. velli ocha

:-)
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Cocanada:

Rao ante mana Cyclone annai anukuni ochaa




Coca annai .. enti sangatulu .. vaarantam emi sesaav? :D
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Rao ante mana Cyclone annai anukuni ochaa

:D
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Kamal:

and more so when the prime minister aids the rioters saying that "when a huge tree falls .. the ground beneath shakes" .. as a minister in the PMs cabinet .. he cannot overwrite the jurisdiction of the PM ever .. my 2 cents !



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Again you are mixing up the principle and the "political ideology" used for vote-mongering ..

Dharmam kapadutundi anukukunte self-appointed dharma rakshakulu avasaram ledu anukuntunna :-)




then why pandavas fought for dharma..i told about broader perspective..to be specific to the present context of hindutva...every thing will not be under control of any body...we have to just do our duty.. people in public life are responsible for protecting dharma..in the present political framework...they have to raise issues that effect the lives of people.....it is the dharma of political parties to respond to the public sentiments and if required influence public opinion...every party responds to the issues in their own way...in doing so some will follow the path of dharma and some go for adharma..even within the same party some support dharma and some support adharma...and in kaliyuga even the same person some times support dharma and sometimes adharma...so everything should be looked at a broader context...it is dharma that uses them as tools..they are just tools
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Basky_indya:


come to Gtalk
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Anand_n:

Already cheppanu kada - socially yes - as a political ideology to be milked by politicians NO




kinda confusing .. if the society itself embraces Hindutva .. why would it still be hanging onto politicians who do not follow and represent them?

Elcaminocapastrino:

Kamal thammudu 1984 sikh riots jain commission report sadhivi nee honest opinion ettu on PV kurrod.....endhuku ilanti kurrollani enakesku osthuntav.....




honest ofinion is .. he is on the side of a party which trigerred the riots .. aa riots ki .. if at all you want to make him responsible for not being efficient enough in clamping down the security establishment .. I am all for it .. but he did not device the riots .. nor did he fuel them .. and more so when the prime minister aids the rioters saying that "when a huge tree falls .. the ground beneath shakes" .. as a minister in the PMs cabinet .. he cannot overwrite the jurisdiction of the PM ever .. my 2 cents ! PV kurrod ni aa riots ki fix cheyyalsi vaste .. all the Gandhis need to be fixed with responsibility for the innumerable riots that took place in India under their rule and for their inability to control them ! what say?
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Kamal thammudu 1984 sikh riots jain commission report sadhivi nee honest opinion ettu on PV kurrod.....endhuku ilanti kurrollani enakesku osthuntav.....
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Kamal:

So, the conclusion is, the problems that the world at large and India in particular are moving into, will ensure Hindutva and its followers as the solution for the problems.



Anand_n:

This is more likely to happen socially than politically anuukuntunna...




Already cheppanu kada - socially yes - as a political ideology to be milked by politicians NO :-)

Vjavasi:

hindutva doesn't need bloodshed to sustain it, it is sustained by dharma




Again you are mixing up the principle and the "political ideology" used for vote-mongering ..

Dharmam kapadutundi anukukunte self-appointed dharma rakshakulu avasaram ledu anukuntunna :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:


Is it really a glowing hindutva if it needs bloodshed to sustain it ? I am worried about communal violence becoming a survival need for parties banking on a religious ideology ...





hindutva doesn't need bloodshed to sustain it, it is sustained by dharma...it demands justice and self-respect...if that requires fighting hindus shouldn't be scared of that...they should better die fighting for just cause as explained by none other than krishna...and followed by many hindu warriors in the past..there is honor in that than living 100 years for living sake
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Gandhiguevara:

adi oka matha vidhanam kaadu ani seppalani valla icha...




chaalle .. aapu nee uvaacha
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Kamal:

sahinchaleni vaalla racha




adi oka matha vidhanam kaadu ani seppalani valla icha...
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Gandhiguevara:

Hindutva means 'a way of life'...oka jeevana vidhanam...aa quote baguntundi kadaa...




ya .. bagundi .. baaguntundi .. kabatte ee charcha .. sahinchaleni vaalla racha
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Vjavasi:

protecting dharma is the political ideology of hindutva




Hindutva means 'a way of life'...oka jeevana vidhanam...aa quote baguntundi kadaa...
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Anand_n:

Is it really a glowing hindutva if it needs bloodshed to sustain it ? I am worried about communal violence becoming a survival need for parties banking on a religious ideology ...




I think you are looking at it in a wrong way. Hindutva does not need bloodshed to take place. But when the violence is being "inflicted upon us" externally, a mechanism for defense of peace, identity and civility are desired and that is where evaluating the options available and their consequent results come into play ! So, the conclusion is, the problems that the world at large and India in particular are moving into, will ensure Hindutva and its followers as the solution for the problems. Now, this is in no way an indication to the progress of BJP if you correctly understand !
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Anand_n:

I am not talking about the principle - I am talking about its effectiveness as a political ideology ...

As long as their daily lives are not impacted the electorate could not care less about "hindutva" and it does not impact their voting patterns - the only times they connect is when religious conflict affects their lives...think about it ..




protecting dharma is the political ideology of hindutva...if dharma can be defeated then hindutva can be defeated otherwise it will find its way just like it did in kurukshetra...how couldn't the lives of people be without any effect when adharma is on rampage
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Basky_indya:

india is not a war monger state. yet tellalists activites are there since long time

daaniki HINDUTVA ki link ante..... kiki




ante .. direct impact kaadu bro .. it is all indirect .. it is for selecting what is right and "right" ! you have to take on the tellalists effectively .. who does that .. how do you do that .. short-term gains or long-term peace .. what matters lanti questions vastayi .. we can be assured about these as long as the society is getting educated ! I am convinced, though there has been some off the target activity .. the society as an entity is moving in the "right" direction.
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Kamal:

So am I assured of the growing acceptance of a glowing Hindutva?




Is it really a glowing hindutva if it needs bloodshed to sustain it ? I am worried about communal violence becoming a survival need for parties banking on a religious ideology ...
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Getafix:

if middleclass really cared about centrist-right mandate - i think BJP would have posted a reasonable election in last year because they have posted almost the same mandate as theyve carried during vajpayee's time.





mmiddle class is into consumerism...after long time in the history of hindu civilization atleast some significant sections of population are eating,drinking and enjoying to their heart content..presently they don't care about left,centre or right now... in future they will settle down and think seriously about these issues when the reality of globalization will stuck them
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Vjavasi:

it's not reactionary...it has plans to influence not only india but world in a positive way




I am not talking about the principle - I am talking about its effectiveness as a political ideology ...

As long as their daily lives are not impacted the electorate could not care less about "hindutva" and it does not impact their voting patterns - the only times they connect is when religious conflict affects their lives...think about it ..
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Kamal:




india is not a war monger state. yet tellalists activites are there since long time

daaniki HINDUTVA ki link ante..... kiki
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Anand_n:

think it was courtesy PVN's "soft hindutva" that BJP's stance and even the term "hindutva" got polarised to extreme right and it is still struggling to gain the more centre right vote...had PVN not taken that stance, BJP would have had it so much easier to gain ground there by projecting itself in the centre as opposed to the right, but savvy politician that he was PVN stepped into that place quickly leaving BJP no option but to move right to differentiate themselves...




We are talking the same thing in two ways. Glad we are on the same page :-)

Anand_n:

I do not believe as a political ideology "hindutva" would have lasted even this long had it not been for the tellalist activity or communal violence ...




The tellalist activity/violence is not going to be any less in future andi. It just takes different forms. So am I assured of the growing acceptance of a glowing Hindutva? :D

Vjavasi:

well said.....no body can stop the assertion of hindu civilization...if not bjp it will create some other vehicle...it's march is unstoppable.




I agree with you 100%, the elements were common in the Swatantra party or the Bharatiya Jan Sangh or the Bharatiya Janata Party, the vehicles were different. For analogy sake, it was a bicycle first, motor gaadi next and a car later, the change is progressive ! :-)
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Vjavasi:

no body can stop the assertion of hindu civilization...




This is more likely to happen socially than politically anuukuntunna...

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akkaaa...meeru andariki ardhamayye basha eppudu matladataaru?




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Anand_n:


I do not believe as a political ideology "hindutva" would have lasted even this long had it not been for the tellalist activity or communal violence ...





it's not reactionary...it has plans to influence not only india but world in a positive way
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He lost because his govt ]became synonymous with scams...also congress organisation is in shambles by the end of his term..he could instill confidence among congress supporters



no party got absolute majority and BJP formed govt with outside support and when kesari played a dirty trick just to become P.M - vajpayee recinforced his honest man image by not buying out 2 mps and forced mid term elections... back then,that was kind of person all the middleclasses were looking for.. i think it was the image factor whch played a great role in those 2 elections not the mandate.. if middleclass really cared about centrist-right mandate - i think BJP would have posted a reasonable election in last year because they have posted almost the same mandate as theyve carried during vajpayee's time.
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Kamal:

Tell this to me, in which way do you see BJP taking a beating?




I think it was courtesy PVN's "soft hindutva" that BJP's stance and even the term "hindutva" got polarised to extreme right and it is still struggling to gain the more centre right vote...had PVN not taken that stance, BJP would have had it so much easier to gain ground there by projecting itself in the centre as opposed to the right, but savvy politician that he was PVN stepped into that place quickly leaving BJP no option but to move right to differentiate themselves... :-)

I do not believe as a political ideology "hindutva" would have lasted even this long had it not been for the tellalist activity or communal violence ...
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Getafix:

i dont know brother.. india shined during his tenure yet he was voted out. I think it was due to his loss of image among voters and Vajpayee was viewed as anti-thesis of what PV was .. so voters with good economy wanted a good image and hence voted for vajpayee.




When you said India shined, you are true. In the era of Vajpayee as well, India shined more than before, and even then he was voted out. It is not a problem with the people at helm there. Just like you have a correction in a bull run in stock market (giving this example as it suits the capitalist times we are in :D), the electoral arena is having a similar correction now.
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i dont know brother.. india shined during his tenure yet he was voted out. I think it was due to his loss of image among voters





He lost because his govt became synonymous with scams...also congress organisation is in shambles by the end of his term..he could instill confidence among congress supporters
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It was a case of relatives, not a judgement on Rao's reign alone.



i dont know brother.. india shined during his tenure yet he was voted out. I think it was due to his loss of image among voters and Vajpayee was viewed as anti-thesis of what PV was .. so voters with good economy wanted a good image and hence voted for vajpayee.
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well said.....no body can stop the assertion of hindu civilization...if not bjp it will create some other vehicle...it's march is unstoppable...i think the troubles for sonia will begin with telangana waterloo
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Kamal:

But with the rise of BJP, a certain right dimension has been added and those dimensions are irreversible as of today !






wells said.....no body can stop the assertion of hindu civilization...if not bjp it will create some other vehicle...it's march is unstoppable...i think the troubles for sonia will begin telangana waterloo
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Ok vuncle .....emundi working from home.....




Home work ani seppochu gaa .. :D .. working from home ata ..

sare le .. inda .. idi unchu .. :D

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Anand_n:

It was expediency politics from PVN, not an ideology shift...in the process its the ideology that took a beating along with BJP...




akkaaa...meeru andariki ardhamayye basha eppudu matladataaru?
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Getafix:

It was the middleclasses who sanctimoniously voted him out and ironically it was to them he did so much with his policies.




It was a case of relatives, not a judgement on Rao's reign alone. In 1996 elections, the principal parties Congress and BJP promised Centrist Right and Right ideologies to the Janta! The middle class gave a better mandate to the right than the centrist right, which is relatively leftist, only in the context of a progressive right.
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why .. wats wrong? btw .. tambi here .. not vuncle yaa .. wat did u do the weekend !




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I do not know why are some people overly concerned about this. BJP as such subscribes to RSS ideology by choice, not by compulsion. Same way, in times of difficulty, RSS is trying to help its child. If not for an RSS shadow in terms of ideology and character, BJP would never have been a party with a difference.




That's true, a political party should be run as a political party....if mass leaders are ignored and the organisation is taken over by people who are not into electoral politics then it could cause damage to the party...there should be right mix of mass leaders and backroom organisers..i support RSS move to take over Bjp at this point but down the line party should have functional autonomy...this is required to prevent the highjack of party by current delhi based leadership and cleanse fixers and manipulators in the party..ultimately bjp should be a broad mix of anti-congress forces with Rss having its stake..it should be a platform for nationalist forces
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Getafix:

PVNR manchi chesadu ani entha mandi anna sare it is gandhi family's name that sells among voters.. Cong leaders ki ee vishayam chala clear ga telsu anukuntunna..




Todays reluctance of Gandhi parivar to directly sit in the drivers seat, owes to the fact that India has slowly started moving beyond the Gandhi family from the 1990s. Having said that, I agree, Gandhi family has a sizable clout in the voting arena! But I think, the advent of PVNR and his strong arm in keeping away the Gandhi family for a whole of 8 years is a certain blow. He did his best in that and achieved a huge success, particularly in the backdrop of sycophancy unlimited !
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Anand_n:

It was expediency politics from PVN, not an ideology shift...in the process its the ideology that took a beating along with BJP...




Tell this to me, in which way do you see BJP taking a beating? Prior to 1990s, the opposition hardly had 100 seats, let alone thinking of forming a govt and managing to last for 5 years. It was the first time in 1991 that Congress PM PVN had to take a rightist stance for the whole of 5 years till 1996 in order to have breathing space for his party in Indian polity. Well, if you think what happened to BJP in 2004 is the beating, I reject, because, it is due to short-sightedness that BJP could not prepare gen-2 to take over, but thats acceptable, it is their first stint in power! But with the rise of BJP, a certain right dimension has been added and those dimensions are irreversible as of today !
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PVNR had a great chance of steering congress away from gandhi family but he totally blew it. His trangressions with law and abuse of power, particularly by his family costed him too much. It was the middleclasses who sanctimoniously voted him out and ironically it was to them he did so much with his policies.

PVNR manchi chesadu ani entha mandi anna sare it is gandhi family's name that sells among voters.. Cong leaders ki ee vishayam chala clear ga telsu anukuntunna..
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PV ,Vajpayee both rocks anytime... they are the two real STATESMAN .




And that is the reason why India surged ahead for the first time. They both gave India unlimited reasons to celebrate !
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Cycole subbaRao is always a winner....he is pravarakhyudu
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Kamal:

BJP was an idea whose time has come in the 90s that a Congress PM for the first in Indian history had to adapt "Soft Hindutva" as a policy for a party sworn by "Centrist-Left" inclinations




My take - It was expediency politics from PVN, not an ideology shift...in the process its the ideology that took a beating along with BJP...
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PV ,Vajpayee both rocks anytime... they are the two real STATESMAN .
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all down vuncle..nothing is up ..




why .. wats wrong? btw .. tambi here .. not vuncle yaa .. wat did u do the weekend !
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doing gud maan .. wats up with ya?




all down vuncle..nothing is up ..:D :D
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doing gud maan .. wats up with ya?
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Hit the nail on the head...PVN is the one congressman who did the greatest and almost irreversible damage to BJP...




I see it the other way, BJP was an idea whose time has come in the 90s that a Congress PM for the first in Indian history had to adapt "Soft Hindutva" as a policy for a party sworn by "Centrist-Left" inclinations. What say?

There are no two ways about it, Hindutva is here to stay in this country for sure !
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lately is writing against RSS taking over bjp organisation...




I do not know why are some people overly concerned about this. BJP as such subscribes to RSS ideology by choice, not by compulsion. Same way, in times of difficulty, RSS is trying to help its child. If not for an RSS shadow in terms of ideology and character, BJP would never have been a party with a difference.

I feel, it is the time, BJP has to be cleaned up. Had it had an Advani or Atal of the haydays in its fold, it would not have needed the RSS to do the cleaning now. But unfortunately, RSS need to "guide" its child for some time. And the other thing worth mentioning is, BJP always had the freedom to move a certain distance from the ideas of RSS, which it demonstrated in the NDA regime. So its simply a matter of how you see it. Involvement or Interference !
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The extent to which Rao exasperated his opponents by, first, opening up avenues of middle-class enrichment through economic liberalisation, and, subsequently, opening independent lines of communication with Hindu sadhus involved in the temple agitation, has not been sufficiently appreciated. Rao calculated that his "soft Hindutva" would undermine BJP designs of emerging as the sole custodian of Hindu interests, keep the Congress in the political game and somehow reduce the emotional polarisation. It was a high-risk strategy that was undone because a section of the VHP understood his game and wilfully jumped the gun on December 6.




Hit the nail on the head...PVN is the one congressman who did the greatest and almost irreversible damage to BJP...
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Kamal:




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What the F*** so great about ones caste or religion...idiots.. be humans first.....
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Thx bro .. I have come across him as a person in the mould of centre-right inclination. His arguments are good. I saw him on CNN - IBN !
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http://www.swapan55.com/


idhi swapan das gupta personal blog....manchi articles rastadu...lately is writing against RSS taking over bjp organisation...latest article on Right space in indian politics..deeniki mundhu article meedha nenu oka comment kooda post chesa
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Vjavasi:

indulo kontha varake truth vundhi....main reason sonia aatalu saganivvala..anduke anta kacchi kopam




I literally admire Rao. If Congress and BJP turn up Raos and Vajpayees in quick succession like they did in 90s, India will be achieve its target of "Akhand Bharat" soon.

Btw .. I salute his intellect when he kicked Sonia, Gandhi parivar and their stooges in the party with his left leg. Apara Chanakya :-)
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Kamal:

It is because of his "Soft Hindutva" principle that he is alienated by the Gandhi's and particularly Sonia and Rahul of today.





indulo kontha varake truth vundhi....main reason sonia aatalu saganivvala..anduke anta kacchi kopam
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Btw .. in Liberhan Commission report, the date on which Gandhi died was mentioned as "Jan 31, 1948".
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In Alan Bennett's celebrated play 'Forty Years On', there is an amusing but poignant scene centred on the trial of Neville Chamberlain by the 'Court of History'. This court, the presiding judge informs the disoriented accused, is "not a 'Court of Justice'. We judge solely by appearances, and i don't like yours." In a court where the presentation of evidence follows the sentencing, Chamberlain is held guilty for his failure to recognise that Hitler was a "patent scallywag". He is handed out a two-word sentence: "Perpetual ignominy".

There may be unintended similarities between the procedural quirkiness of Bennett's 'Court of Justice', particularly its decision to ''judge solely by appearances'', and the lack of rigour that marked Justice M S Liberhan's pronouncements on the demolition in Ayodhya 17 years ago. Quite predictably, and not least because he converted a three-month contract into a 17 year pension, Liberhan has been mercilessly pilloried and ridiculed by both the political class and the media. What should have been the definitive post-mortem report of an event that left India both shaken and stirred, ended up resembling the shoddy dissertation of a plodder in a C-grade university.

The disservice that Liberhan has done to the standing of the judiciary is incalculable. But equally galling has been his role in disfiguring the public perception of the past. Since a great deal of the Liberhan report is clouded in sweeping generalisations, inconsistencies, factual inaccuracies, purple prose and plain howlers, the inclination to rubbish everything in the 1,000-page offering has proved irresistible to the political and editorial classes.

The prime collateral casualty of the rubbishing of Liberhan report has been former prime minister P V Narasimha Rao. Whether out of a sense of gratitude to the man who facilitated a most agreeable superannuation or a desire to not displease the Congress Party, Liberhan was excessively understanding of Rao's compulsions and whitewashed his role with embarrassing cravenness -- a generosity he didn't extend to the other side.

Understandably, this partiality has provoked a backlash. In a fortnight of public debate, the role of Rao has been put under a partisan scanner. He has been painted either as a blundering fool who preferred his afternoon siesta to matters of state or a closet communalist who worked in tandem with the RSS. Even the Congress, which he served with great distinction, has been hesitant to come to his defence. Rahul Gandhi's facile observation that the Babri Masjid would have been intact had a Gandhi been at the helm has become the new correctness.

The transformation of Rao into a latter-day Chamberlain does a grave injustice to someone who, until the 1996 election, was seen as both a visionary and an amoral Chanakya. Interestingly, this was the case even after the demolition when the chattering classes went ballistic over the "perfidy" of the RSS and BJP. When, contrary to the triumphalism of its campaign -- "aaj panch Pradesh, kal sara desh" -- the BJP was defeated in Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh and Himachal Pradesh in the 1993 assembly elections, Rao was hailed as the man who rolled back the tide of Hindutva.

The Congress also celebrated Rao's astonishing ability to quietly secure a majority for a government that had been sworn in as a fragile minority government in 1991. Today, the bribery of Jharkhand Mukti Morcha MPs by the ruling party is viewed as an inglorious chapter in India's parliamentary democracy. At that time, Rao was feted for his political management, just as Manmohan Singh was in 2008 after winning the Trust vote in equally controversial circumstances. Politicians love winners and, until the 1996 debacle, Rao was seen as a winner.

There are obvious pitfalls in viewing the past through the prism of the present. Just as Chamberlain returned from Munich as a folk hero for averting a war few people wanted, Rao frustrated the BJP by denying it the privilege of a frontal conflict against "pseudo-secularism". The extent to which Rao exasperated his opponents by, first, opening up avenues of middle-class enrichment through economic liberalisation, and, subsequently, opening independent lines of communication with Hindu sadhus involved in the temple agitation, has not been sufficiently appreciated. Rao calculated that his "soft Hindutva" would undermine BJP designs of emerging as the sole custodian of Hindu interests, keep the Congress in the political game and somehow reduce the emotional polarisation. It was a high-risk strategy that was undone because a section of the VHP understood his game and wilfully jumped the gun on December 6.

Rao miscalculated the dangers of brinkmanship. But what if he had succeeded? Wouldn't the 'Court of History' have honoured him as a great prime minister who had the courage to take India along a different, non-Nehruvian trajectory?




http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/right-and-wrong/ent ry/was-rao-a-winner-or

Written by Swapan Dasgupta.

PS - No wonder PV Narsimha Rao was called the "right man" in the wrong party! It is because of his "Soft Hindutva" principle that he is alienated by the Gandhi's and particularly Sonia and Rahul of today. By giving such him a clean chit in Babri, had Mr. Rao been alive today, Liberhan probably would have been asked to shed his pro-Congress lens off in seeing reality !

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