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     Indiarocks Comedian Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 1327 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Ikkada Chiru 100% perfect aa, 70% perfect aa, 60% perfect aa annadi manam choodatledu anukunta. Mundu Chiru ke vote ani decide ayyi appudu adi 60% justified aa, 70% justified aa ani samadhana parchukuntunnamu. Moreover it is voting for PRP, and its policies, which IMO may not completely reflect what Chiru has been. And some issues, like the one discussed below, are not petty. They can actually make or break a nation, over a period of time. Anyway one's vote is totally up to that person. So I better stop here. leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12033 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
yes. soft natured person. prati telugu family ki pedda koduku ane feeling  life long abhimaaninchina vyakti. life lo first time vote esetappudu , boss ki esanu veyyakapote....velithi ga undedi anukuntunna. its like voting for a family member though you may not agree with him. NExt time ninchi, its going to be purely based on reason. no more sentiment. Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Telugubabu Junior Artist Username: Telugubabu Post Number: 82 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 216.235.145.222 Rating: N/A |
yes. naa vuddesam kooda adhe. Chiru 100% perfect kaadu. Coca ki oka 70% nachi vundochu. aa 70% positives choosukuni support cheyyochu antanu. suppose Chiru minorities ni impress chesthaniki hindus ni thittdanauko coca support 50% ki padipothundi. Chiru kakinaada ki emi cheyyakunda pakistan ki jai ante 30% ki padipothundi. appudu coca congress or TDP lo join avuthadu. meeru cheppinattu at present Coca Chiru lo postives vethukkuntunnadu. sorry last post ee thread lo. mee religion discussion continue cheyyandi. nenu ROM lo vundi chaduvukunta. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5570 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Yes, Ardhanareeswara , RadhaKrishna same difference aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12031 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
OK. That is clear. Gaudiya Vaishnavism has this concept of 'Radha-Krishna'. Same with Sri Sampradayam in Vaishnavism. We have concept of 'Lakshmi-Narayana'. We are supposed to pray to Lakshmi Narayana and not just Narayana. I used to read ISKCON literature. They say Radha is the energy of Krishna. When I was thinking of conciousness and the infinite potential energy it can manipulate, it reminds of Radha Krishna concept. Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5569 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
One form and the most beautiful form of duality depiction is Siva and Sakthi and their union in the form of Ardhanareeswara Other forms and many such are there Purusa- Prakriti Sun(Iswara) - Moon(Mother Goddess) Paramatma - Atma God- Self aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Indiarocks Comedian Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 1326 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
positive choosukuni munduku povadam kademo...evaritho munduku povadamo decide chesukuni vallalo positives vethukkovatam emo.. leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Indiarocks Comedian Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 1325 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
There you go bro.... . I appreciate your honesty. You have an answer to why we see 85% suffering injustice at the cost of 15%. And many of the rest, like me, never understood the importance of voting in an election when they had a chance to do so. leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12030 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
I understand the concept of duality and non duality. But I never knew they are called Siva and Sakthi Serious Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5568 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Funny you ask - I was thinking the other day the whole duality of Siva-Sakthi culminating in the interchangeability of the union :Siva is Sakthi, Sakthi is Siva could just be a metaphor for mass-energy equivalence...
Gayatri is a mantra to Savitr - the sun It is called the mother of Vedas hence the female imagery Not from the Sakthi tradition aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Telugubabu Junior Artist Username: Telugubabu Post Number: 81 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 216.235.145.222 Rating: N/A |
sorry to intrude. why are you asking this to coco. i can show many fans in congress and TDP those who oppose minorities. lite anthe.. positives choosukoni munduku povadame.. | ||
| Hindu Junior Artist Username: Hindu Post Number: 567 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 12.47.15.38 Rating: N/A |
same thing with islam. what others hate is their practices, dressing, suppression of women, violent nature etc// Mohammad pravakta yudhaalu chesaadu, he forced others to convert to muslims. Madina nundi Macca meedha dhaadulu chesaadu, final gaa Macca meedha gelichina tharuvaatha andharini muslims Gaa convert chesaadu. Aka Indian | ||
| Bushu Junior Artist Username: Bushu Post Number: 337 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
Both wrong assumptions. What jesus said or not, no body knows. all you have are the parables and the books which say a lot of weird things. same is true with Islam - when a religion or a concept starts teaching exclusivity, it straight away creates divisions however benign which later will manifest into hatred. | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12029 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
Yes. But ..... Chiru ni chusi....alaa ayupoyindi Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12028 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
Yes. Petrified wood story cheppina athanu ISKCON. He might be wrong. BTW. I have a question on your favorite topic. Sakthi Is Sakthi the potential energy prevalent in the universe? Is Gayatri same as Sakthi? Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Indiarocks Comedian Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 1324 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
I assume that you knew PRP's policy on minorities before you did, since you look very passionate about these religious affairs.  leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5565 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
It is difficult for people who idolise someone to find that their idol did not measure up to expectations ... Maybe he'll learn ... anyway I just asked out of curiosity ..not to question your political leanings Krishna post chusara ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12027 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
i voted for PRP. MP and MLA i may not do it again Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Indiarocks Comedian Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 1323 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Honestly, would you have voted for PRP if you had been India at the time of elections? or, would you have supported a different party if you know that they are better than PRP? leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12026 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
I totally lost hope and expectations. Infact, all his life other than movies, the only thing which he did is service and organization. He never had strong view for or against how govt should function. All he thought was he has enough base to launch into politics and he did. even now, i have mixed feelings towards his entry. He always blamed his image, market for not doing critically acclaimed films. I thought he is going to start that phase. BUT....its a big disaappointment for fans like me see him losing the aura Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5564 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
I think I said when the news came out - "he just became a politician no different from others " ani aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Telugubabu Junior Artist Username: Telugubabu Post Number: 79 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 216.235.145.222 Rating: N/A |
oorikoka mosque mekela thelisindi andi ? kastaalu kori maree thechukuntunnaru. ee thread lepestharu. annayya edo porapaatu lo alavatu ga annaru. thuruks kooda serious ga theesukola. | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12025 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
Chiru aa Chiraaku esindi. How did you react? Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5563 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Krishna died on the other end of the country in Gujarat - there is spot where the hunter (Angada) shot him from behind a tree - akkadiki vellaanu nenu Ayina per hindu rites body cremate cheste petrified wood ela untundi ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Indiarocks Comedian Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 1322 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
5 * leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5562 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
No - but adi anta easy ga jarige pani kadu - it has to be a people movement Religion is a tool used for powerplay from time immemorial, the opiate of the masses .. the only way to acheive a fair and balanced society is to de-emphasis religion as a swing factor... BTW, mee leader ooriki oka mosque kadatanu ante ela support chesaru  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12022 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
I learned that the statue in Puri is made of wood formed by pertified body of Krishna Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Indiarocks Comedian Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 1321 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
It is very unfortunate that the Hindu kings then were not able to protect a place so important for Hindus. But are we in a situation to correct it now? Is a solution by force possible, given the fact how seriously (or fanatically) many mu...ms take their religion? Given the fact, that they are about 150 million of them in India? Given the fact that we let the problem grow for centuries? Only viable solution is to bring a movement to convince the other party about the injustice done to Hindus. I do not think that it is possible. Using force will only result in more lives lost, and I do not think Lord Rama himself can ever accept ppl fighting for his birth place. leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12021 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
Yes. I admit that We have the right to ask for it. But using force is wrong Mssion Accomlished? Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5561 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Yes I know that.I just do not see the point of starting a communal war over it and give more fodder to politicians to divide the country ..
No, Krishna's primary temples are Mathura and Dwaraka. aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12018 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: |
Naaku oka doubt. Do you know that Babri was built over Rama's temple? There is a Rama statue and temple below Babri Now, Bhadrachalam has become primary Rama temple. It is supposed to be Ayodhya Krishna's primary temple is Puri Jagannath. Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5560 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
What do you get by doing that - there is no historical/archaeological value left if you superimpose a new structure over the old ... All that makes sense is preserving them in current condition as historical sites ... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12014 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: |
no. I want it to be reverted back to its original condition. If I go and demolish Charminar's minars and put a sankham chakram naamam, that is religions pride Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5559 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Sorry if we gave you a headache aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5558 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Which british/persians are you talking about - do they have something that we want back ? All our other belongings are in India and belong to Indians What you are saying is you want to restructure them and rename them to satiate your "religious" pride aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12012 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
First lo alaage untundi. yem bhayapadaku  Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5557 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
If you keep it that generic there is no specific sanatana dharma - it is all incluusive
In all the pramanas - only the veda/sabda pramana reference God. The rest of them are pure logic, inference, analogy etc... Any darsana which does not use Veda/sabda as a pramana is a nastika darsana...I added sabda because agamasa are considered sabda and Saiva darsanasa are also aastika darsanas.
Idi semantics and how you define nastika anukunta aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Platypus Junior Artist Username: Platypus Post Number: 219 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 122.169.145.100 Rating: N/A |
 There are 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who don't. | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12006 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: |
you are right. No body is saying kill muslims because aurangazeb killed hindus. Is anyone doing that? All that I am saying is because we are no longer slaves of Brtish/Persians, we should get our rightful belongings back Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12005 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
Yes. Asking for temple back is not wrong. Using force was wrong. Moreover not all places of worship are built for worshipping Some are built as symbols of domination. Building mosque on Ayodhya temple is more a military act than a religious one. Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 658 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
This is mentioned in Purva mimamsa. Dharma develops by performing Vedic rituals. By refraining from prohibited deeds and actions inspired by desires, one can be cleansed from sins. It leads to a state beyond dharma and adharma. After experiencing the result of past karma, body (sareera) dies. If the state beyond dharma and adharma is attained by then, the atman does not assume sareera any more. Thus liberation from sareera forever is Moksha. Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5556 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
Not the current day Indians -Hold them accountable for their actions not their ancestors ... why are you holding them responsible for what happened so many years ago ?
Imagine cheyyatam enduku I have been to Somnath, Mathura etc..and I know exactly what happened there ..but the people who did that are not around anymore and I think I do not gain anything by getting a temple built on a mosque to correct the wrong Its a matter of perspective.. To my mind Babri masjid breaking caused more harm and loss to the country than good ... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 657 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
No contradiction. In this generi c exlanation, God=atman=brahman=absolute god=paramathman=atman=final destination of spiritual pursuit=parabrahman ani chaduvuko galaru. Specifically, nasthika darshanas are called nasthika not because they dont believe in god, but because they dont believe in vedas. Nireeswara vada is not necessarily nasthika vada. Nyaya, Yoga and Uttara Mimamsa say that there is a Lord of All souls. Remaining three of asthika darshanas are nireeswara darsanas becasue they dont believe in Isvara or parabrahman. But they still are aasthika darshanas. Whether sankara/ sai baba are prophets depends on your definition of prophet. I think they are human beings who realized the divinity within them. Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 12002 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: |
yeah middle east ninchi ochi mana temples plunder chesaru kada. If they think idol worship is wrong, so is worship in a mosque. When material objects do not have any significance, why cant we take it back? Ramudu velisina gudi ni icheste.....it would have been a great gesture. If you are not able to perceive it, imagine a famous temple being plundered in front of your own eyes and building a mosque on top of it. Will ask for the temple back or no? Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5555 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
"Middle eastern barbarians" ani tittindi meere anukunta kada aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11998 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
what abuse are you talking about? Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5553 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
It is a question to you - what right do you have not to call them a hindu or to abuse a fellow "hindu" based on their religion ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11997 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: |
its more a question to them whoever loves India can be called a hindu Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5551 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Cool - so the modern hinduism includes Parsis, jains, muslims, sikhs and christians Hindutva - evaru eppudu coin chesaru ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11995 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
Yes. All the religions which are in INdia Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5550 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Now another name - what is Hindutva ? What is wrong with just Bharatiyata of Indian ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5549 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Not in the common understanding of the word Hindu and not unless you redefine it to include all religions in the country aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 17201 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.88.0.16 Rating: N/A |
naaku irritation osthadhi....archana antey 5 mins sahasranaman antey 45mins varaki puja untadhi....i get restless....aa time lo dhemunni kooda thittukunta....nenu oka parallel puja chesthunta.... | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 179 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
naaku chaala interesting ga anipistayi .. for example when I go to a temple, when I listen to the archana being performed to God, I try to decipher each name, simple sanskrit lo ne untayi .. specially telugu vallaki chala easy ga ardam avutayi .. previously naaku ardam ayyevi kadu .. last 3-4 years .. I have developed an ear to Sanskrit .. so aa perla ardhalu telisthe chaala happy and interesting ga untundi naku .. this is an example .. alage slokas, mantras .. Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 17199 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.88.0.16 Rating: N/A |
most of the religious rituals are boring....everyone dont run for god like sissies when they are in trouble....yes there should some time dedciated to look into yourself....but i donno how you can look into yourself by doin religious rituals......rituals are just there for one reason....to provide a routine....U make up your own routine you dont need a ritual.... | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 175 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
Keka .. Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 174 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
Super cheppav annai .. Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11993 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
Mine too Only digression was the name 'Sanatana Dharma' You got my point at last. Anti-Hindu is Anti-Indian Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5548 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Mission accomplished aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11992 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
bottom line when outsiders say hindus, they are referring to indians You can not have India with out Hindutva . Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11991 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
Yes The only thing that unifies people is nationality . Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5546 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
I do not believe any path is superior to another - why is that so difficult to understand ? I picked what worked for me based on my psychological needs
And I know many who went the ohter way too
Which is why I actually think you need to be stronger psychologically to swim upstream in the sea of believers aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 171 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
My question is, if your path is not superior, why do you follow that? You should be following the path which you percieve is superior right?
I am not at all uncomfortable to nastikata at all. At a point when I was 15-16 I was a person who questioned "Why God", though I do not know if that makes me a Nastika. Most people I know of who followed nastikata as their way of life, at their later stages of life all converted to being staunch believers of God. I have a very good Jain friend, due to whom I have some knowledge of Jain philosophies. And as you know, Jain philosophies are mostly "Nastika" based. But when you look back at the very famous Jains of the Golden era, most of them started as Nastiks and ended up as Astiks. My point is, when you are most likely to end up as an 'Aasthik', why not be one from the start? Even in this era, we have seen many Communists who were atheists in their life time, took to believing in God at the end !!! So why follow a different path when you are known to end up at the same place? And the only other problem with Nastikatvam is, you are isolated in the society, not just Indian, any other place of the world ... It is almost filled with 90+ % believers, some faith or other. Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5545 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Atleast you got a part of the point Another part of the question is we have tons of religions and philosophies and ways of life in India - many of them without any commonality at all If you try to draw boundaries around it and say this is Sanatana Dharma this is not you will exclude a significant section of the believers/non-believers.. Hinduism based on Vedas antaru - 90% of hindus do not know what is in the Vedas, do not pray to the deities in the Vedas, but we like to believe they are the basis for the way of life of all these people. Ala ayite vedic religion follow avanni vallu andaru non sanatan-dharmics Don't try to put artificial definitions on what is not a single cohesive entity in the first place. aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11990 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
My observation People who can stick to a routine are more successful People who medidate can focus better Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11989 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
Sorry brothers and sisters Ban ninchi ippude ochaa Anand_n gaaru adige question is related to more fundamental issue. i.e. naming a process As long as you give names, there will be attachment. People will keep asking what is it. As long as we communicate using words, we will never get an answer Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 170 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
Annai .. rituals are necessary .. even when you have a job or busy with family life or something else .. they provide with an oppurtunity to look into your self, to look to God in troubles, to draw strength and directions .. they provide you a way to keep a check on the attachement to "raaga bandhalu" of "Samsara". Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5544 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
True - works for Advaita vedantins only. So is Dwaita excluded from Sanatana Dharma ? What about arambha vada - the premise that the universe is created ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5543 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
No - you did not get me wrong : ) I believe in what I believe and I also believe in the freedom of others not to believe - which seems to be a stretch for most people here to comprehend. I follow my path fully aware that mine is not the only right path ..I have met enlightened souls who have reached their thru their respective paths andI have no delusions of the supriority of mine over theirs What is curious is why you are so uncomfortable with the fact that nastika darsanas, and nireeswara vadas are also part of our philosophies and want to ignore their existence aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 17198 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.88.0.16 Rating: N/A |
Iam saying the reason why they were introduced....rituals are good....but not necessary these days....if you have a job and a family and things to worry about then those are your rituals....anukuntunna.... | ||
| Bushu Junior Artist Username: Bushu Post Number: 336 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
Anand, taht was in response to your questioning Ishan's definition of SD. there's no contradiction there since there's no separate God there. | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 165 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
Jai Paalabhishekam, haarati to Cine stars by "busy" people!!! Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 163 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
Btw .. why are you so concerned about atheist philosophies all the time. I am asking this question not to corner you. But you being a firm believer in "Shakti", always bring up the point of Nastikata before anything else. Did I get you wrong somewhere? Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 17197 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.88.0.16 Rating: N/A |
I think rituals were invented to provide a routine to life which in turn provides a meaning and reason to wake up every morning....aa rojullo pani pata undevi kadhu so they were proposed to keep urselves busy....once man started to get busy slowly he started to ignore those rituals one by one....anukuntunna | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 162 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
Pravkta Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 161 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
A Guru is one who teaches you while going through a 'journey' himself; one who guides you in the right direction towards the "ultimate truth". Now, it can be w.r.t God or it can also be w.r.t to a difference pursuit. Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5541 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
All I chose to perceive is reality to me Unless I have the option to not perceive myself, I cannot call it a belief Whether I chose to recognise the divinity in me or not is a belief -because I do have that option But we are moving into spirituality land - this thread is non-spiritual aspects of religion aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 160 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
It is "a" way of life. It is not "the" way of life. Atleast nenu rasina daantlo naaku aithe ade meaning vachindi. What makes them both Sanatan Dharmics - Answer is the path they follow in their journey ! Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 159 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
I agree with them. I also say Who is not a swaroopam of "Eswara"? As per Adwaitam which you quote all the time, what are we all? Are we all not a swaroopam of God? Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5540 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Manam Guru antamu - If a Guru is your conduit to God who helps you understand the word of God - he is your personal prophet aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 157 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
Let me answer, what I know .. Why are rituals performed? Lets for example take the case of Karmakandalu itself, why are they performed? In general it is a way to remember your ancestors, elders who gave you this wonderful life. You pay them respect one day a year, believing that their soul, where ever it is, is happy and you just say "thanks" for the good life that you are having because of their actions/karma. This "thanks/respects" can be said in different ways I guess, but Hindus, over a period of time, followed rituals which also act as social gatherings, and because we are a society driven by God, our birth and death all determined by God, we do certain puja's with mantras in it. Simple ga cheppalante, pelli ki, taddinaniki kooda "Gayatri Mantram" chaduvutaru, because she is the all pervading Godess, Mother. Rituals-Karmakandalu ki, I am sure there is also some religious significance which I am not aware of, but societal aspect lo aithe, that is what my understanding is. Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| Bushu Junior Artist Username: Bushu Post Number: 335 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
Anand, If God is a belief, are You a belief as well? true dharmics dont distinguish between self and God. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5539 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Bingo - well said aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5538 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Nenu aduguntundi ade - what are the rules for Sanatana Dharma and who made them ? Sankaracharya Sivuni swaroopam anevallu kuda unnaru aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5537 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Contradiction #2 : Is someone who choses not to make Moksha/cosmic truth his destination a "Sanatan Dharmic " ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Bushu Junior Artist Username: Bushu Post Number: 334 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
there is no link between religion and spirituality. any strong follower of a religion by definition is 'attached' whether to principles, prophets or practices. true spirituality transcends attachments and leads one to oneness with the infinite. | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 320 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
prophet ante telugu lo emantaaru ? endukante, manam daivamsa unnavallu antaamu (enlightened souls ni), but daiva doota ane word peddaga undadu kada (except for translated versions of bible) | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5536 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Good question aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5535 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Then by definition it is not "a way of life " The way of life for an Aghori at one extreme is very different from the way of life of an orthodox brahmin ... What makes them both Sanatan Dharmics ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 319 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
where does the rituals (or karmakandalu) fit in sanatana dharma ? | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 155 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
Lol .. Since when was Sankaracharya being considered as a prophet? When did he claim so? Are people called by any particular name/sect/religion/group, who follow Sankara? If Sankara was a prophet, as being said, what rules did he set for the living of a "Hindu" or "Sanatana Dharmic" or whatever you want to call him. Are there any religious books/scriptures written/composed/authorised by Sankara, pertaining to his identity as a prophet? Nenu ivi anni enduku adugutunna ante .. I have read little, but whatever little I read, has never pointed to Sankara being a prophet to Hinduism (word convienience kosam use chestunna). To me, he is a sage whose brilliance was immeasurable, God-gifted (well, so many of us are - sadly, few realize), knowledge, compassion, devotion, dedication, commitment, actions are all ideal ! Thats about it. He was never elevated to being a prophet, AFAIK! Thats the beauty of Sanatana Dharma or Hinduism or any other name you call it. It never imposes any particular rigid beliefs. It is a guiding light as how a human needs to travel in his journey to 'his destination'. Now, the 'destination' can be very different for different people based on his/her choices.
I think this is the closest to where one can put SD as. You have great knowledge brother. Arthamanartham Bhavaya Nithyam - Naasthi Thatha Sukalesa Sathyam, Puthraadhapi Dhana Bhaajam Bheethi - Sarvathraisha Vihithaareethi. | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 318 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
chinna question, do you believe budhism, jainism are also part of sanatana dharma or they are different ? endukante, buddhudu thaanu acharinchedi purana maargam ani cheppadu antaaru. danni sarvepalli radhakrishna garu, purana maargam ante upanishadmargam ani annaru, but many budhists dont agree to that. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5534 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Prophet is anyone who conveys the word of God - If Vedas are Apourasheya - the first one who heard and communicated them is a messenger and a prophet aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5533 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Contradiction # 1 - God is a belief aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11985 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
He is a guru. If prophet means Guru, he is prophet I guess If Prophet means messenger, he is not Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 655 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.44.243 Rating: N/A |
no specific yoga...generic yoga...SD identifies yoga as being and becoming or union with Brahman... Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5532 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
credible references and links please. aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5531 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Is it ? Then where do Nireeswara vada / nastika darsanas fit in ? What is Sankaracharya if not a prophet who defined the religion ? Who is Shirdi Sai baba - god, prophet or avatar ? Is this not just semantics ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11984 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
you mean Hatha yoga? Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 654 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.44.243 Rating: |
Defnition ki vasthe SD is a the self experience based (not belief based) quest for cosmic truth with at most spiritual freedom. It is timeless, unalterable, believes in the existence of tamo, rajo and sttva gunas, loves all excluding none, and uses yoga to attain moksha. Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 653 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.44.243 Rating: N/A |
The first tenet of SD is it is god-centric and not prophet-centered. That excludes other religions. Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11971 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
they have this concept of one material life and one hell/heaven for eternity concept all indian philosophies are based on karma and infinite material lives next question is : "Is karma a principle of Sanatana DHarma?" I dont know. Calling Shawshank Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5529 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
So everyone inluding christians and muslims are sanatana dharmics? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Risingstar Hero Username: Risingstar Post Number: 15896 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 98.225.199.48 Rating: N/A |
inthakee devudu unnadani enthamandi nammuthunnaru? nenu nammuthanu.. | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 652 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.44.243 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for the links. One day, I will try to search for the peer-reviewed manuscripts by neutral authors published in professional philosophical journals and will post here. Until then I will hold on to the popular belief. If you have chance read the latest version of "the history of indian philosophy" by Das. I think they use this text in academics in India and many consider it as impartial. Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11970 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
google jindabad i dont think there are any rules. Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5527 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
ROFL - Sanatana Dharmic anandi BTW- evaranna naaku ee Sanatana Dharma, Indian way of life emito define chestara please ? Deeni rules emiti - what makes you a sanatana dharmic versus a non sanatana dharmic Where are the boundaries ?
Google zindabad zamana lo chadivinavi books and net - sources gurtu kuda levu vetiki ivvali ante nenu kuda google e cheyyali aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11962 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
deep inside, i mean philosophy but sankaracharya is hindu according to all. so i took liberty  No, I never read Sufi philosophy or Kaballah please give me some pointers Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5526 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Chinna doubt - if hinduism is not a religion why are you comparing it to other religions and feeling proud ? Hinduism is set of philosophies ante pick a philosophy and compare it to another... If you have to compare something with other religions , compare say saivism or Vaishnavism to christianity or Islam. Why are you mixing the two ? BTW, the nature of philosophy is that it thrives on debate - and I am sure every philosophy in the world has encouraged debate Eppudanna Sufi philosophy chadivara ? It is under Islam or the kabbalah philosophy of Judaism - chadivi compare it to Advaita...you will find lots of parallels aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5525 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Inka books unnayi discussing and debating chronology but online ivvi dorikayi http://www.siddha.com.my/religionoftheagamas/chapter8.html "We see a gravitational paradigm powershift in the global picture of Hinduism, where the vedas are no longer the epicentre but a point on the continuous path of Agamism, and where the Sumerian origins which has been partly attested with linguistic evidences and archealogical artifacts, has found a foundational position now firmly in place. A culmination of sorts. This view corrects a lopsided view and the history of the Hindus that has long been erroneously presented" http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/h_antiquity.asp Based on a wide range of interpretations by various historians, we present below a tentative chronology of possible key periods of Hinduism in the remote past. Instead of a definite time for each key event, we have suggested a possible time frame, or a period, during which the suggested event might have taken place;This chronology assumes that some of the traditions evolved simultaneously or in close proximity to one another, rather than one after another, before they became integrated into the main stream of what we call today as Hinduism. These periods are not etched in stone and are neither definitive nor indisputable. They are meant to present an overview of the possible manner in which Hinduism might have progressed from one milestone to another and emerged as one of the most dominant religions of the ancient world. Paleolithic age 35000 BC to 10000 BC Neolithic age 10000 BC to 5000 BC Beginnings of Dravidian civilization 7000 BC to 6000 BC Beginnings of Indus valley civilization 6000 BC to 5000 BC Beginnings of early ascetic traditions, fertility cults and some early sects of Saivism 6000 BC to 5000 BC - (earliest agamas potentially started here) Beginnings of Vedic civilization 6000 BC to 5000 BC The rise of Siva, Vishnu, Shakti and decline of vedic gods 4000 BC to 3500 BC The beginnings of Samkhya and some rudimentary practices of yoga 5000 BC to 3500 BC. The Beginnings of integration and formation of composite Brahmanical or Hindu culture. 4500 BC to 3500 BC. The possible period of the epic stories 3500 BC to 3000 BC The end of Indus valley civilization 2000 BC to 1500 BC The end of Vedic supremacy and rise of Jainism 1500 BC Rise of Magadhan empire and other monarchies 1200 BC to 800 BC Arrival of Buddhism and resurgence of Jainism 650 BC to 500 BC Resurgence of Vaishnavism and Saivism to counter the new religions, the rise of Bhakti movement, revival of the Bhagavadgita, Patanjali's Yogasutras, Vedanta sutras , theistic Samkhya and the early notions of monism and qualified monism, temple traditions and image worship. 500 BC to 100 AD. Brahmanical reaction against the Mauryan religious policies 200 BC to 75 BC. Revitalization of Hinduism under the Satavahanas, the Nagas and the Guptas 200 BC to 500 AD. Decline of Buddhism in ancient India 600 AD to 800 AD. Expansion of Hindu empires in South East Asia; 200 AD to 600 http://www.himalayanacademy.com/resources/books/agamas/Kamik a_English_Intro.pdf Page i - found the quote on Vivekananda in this preface "Yet the practical and living religion of the Hindvis to whatever denomination they may belong, is governed? as pointed out by Swami Vivekananda, from the Himalayas to Cape Comoriny by the Agamas only." PAge ii "For the information of the ignorant and the biased it has to be explained here that in point of chronology the Agamas are as ancient as the Vedas and they are both acknowledged as Divine Revalation from from the mouth of God. They are both sabda pramana and lead to avabudha jnana (self-luminious knowledge). All theistic religious like Saivisn~ and Vaisnavism (including the Madhva Vaisnavism) respect the Agamas and base their the01ogical doctrines on them" aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 317 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
akbar maalum hei tere ko ? | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 316 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
me either. but vedas gurinchi ekkada chadivinaa, first kanipinche line apourusheyaalu. | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 315 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
my bad, philosophy ani clear ga unna, thondara padi vedas anna | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11954 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 71.206.101.169 Rating: N/A |
no. I dont believe it. Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 314 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
Vedalu apourusheyaalu kada, ante eswarudi che cheppabaddavi. | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 633 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.44.243 Rating: N/A |
Thats true. Logic and reasoning played significant role in the evolution of indian philosphic thought. During Upanishad times too, constant philosophical debates with rival schools (apparently there were so many schools trying to establish their identity and superiority over others) have helped a lot in fine tuning of earlier hindu philosophical concepts. Buddhism in particular, has always been a great contender. Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11948 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 71.206.101.184 Rating: |
Another important difference Our philosophies are result of open debates. We never say "God said so". Sankaracharya debated with hundreds of budhists , defeated them with his logic and re-established the authority of vedas I am f**ing proud of it. No other religion can boast of such a thing  Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 132 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 76.29.126.37 Rating: N/A |
nachitivi po .. Poorva Namadheyam - Shawshank Jai Hind | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11947 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 71.206.101.184 Rating: |
as long as people understand that we sre not like other religions and we dont have an "ism", i am fine Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 632 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.44.243 Rating: N/A |
Hindus ani cheppukovadam easy kada thammi, instead of sanathana dharmics ani...emantav... Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11943 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 71.206.101.184 Rating: N/A |
I have always said there is nothing called hinduism WHat indians adhere to is called Sanatana Dharma Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Kingaa_bongaa Side Hero Username: Kingaa_bongaa Post Number: 5110 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.174.58.20 Rating: N/A |
What religion? what spirit?  Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu. Proud to be Never-been-banned CCDB'r | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 631 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.44.243 Rating: N/A |
Anand, thanks for the links, I see your point. However, there are several points I can put forward that argues in his favor. But As some one said, its going to be a long unending debate which I don't think worth fighting for. I still want to see the references for agama time lines though. Not for the sake of argument but I just want to look in to them out of curiosity, I couldn't find them. Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5524 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Dharma does not mean religion it means ethics These ethics are mostly common to all religions...so how can you say the old name of Hinduism was Sanatana Dharma ? Dharma does not have any association to the rituals, rites , practices, deities or even philosophies which are what differentiate religions ... Anyway - you guys keep believing what suits you aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 118 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
LOL .. memu (me, Coke and other idealogues) ade ga mottukuntunnam .. Sanatana Dharma is not a relligion .. it is a way of life .. it is an eternal cultural identity that is flowing through the Indian sub-continent ani .. You cannot restrict it to the definition of a religion, it is a super set of such identities .. Okay ... over to coke kurrod .. Poorva Namadheyam - Shawshank Jai Hind | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5523 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Konchem research cheyyandi - Sanatana dharma is not a religion - it is a general code of conduct. Svadharma is the personal code of conduct. It is only recently that our "religious" leaders appropriated that term to mean the religion - Hinduism aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11940 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
 ade mukka naa notlo nanutondi nee notlonchi bayataki ochindi Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 115 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
Sanatana Dharma anedi asalu peru - adi teliyani amayakulu evaru untarandi rename cheyyali ani abhiyan start chestarandi .. already eppati nuncho unna peru unnappudu .. madhya lo evado noru tirakka pettina perlu avasarama cheppandi ? Poorva Namadheyam - Shawshank Jai Hind | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5522 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
I am doing great
Ilantivi gattiga anakandi - mana matam peru e turaka word ante janalaki tattukovatam kashtam - urgent ga rename Hinduism abhiyan start avutundi aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Comedian Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 1876 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
anand garu, hope you are doing good. back antu ledhu, life/work has been pretty hectic, bounced back to the db just to relax a bit. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Comedian Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 1875 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
humpty brother, ee arguments agavu, nijam emito thelidhu kaani, cheppindhe cheppi, vinindhe vini age ayipothundhi... choodham etu pothaayoo the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5521 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
My point exactly - good to see you back aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Comedian Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 1874 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
Max muellar has created a vast collection of literature which potrayed hindus as barbaric and lowely in his earlier attempts "to understand" hindus. By the end of his time, he has openly regretted the damage he has done to hinduism. nevertheless to call max meuller an authority would be a mistake. many of his writings were biased. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5520 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
LOL - last night MS post chusi exactly ide thought vachindi ... Separate party petti succeed ayina Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism independent religions ga identity chesukunte ...meeta sects anni coalition party laga "Hinduism" kinda adjust ayyayi aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5519 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Looks like you did not understand my post or my point - let it go
Who meets your standard of Authentic references ... You may chose to interpret them as you please but there are enough voices of dissent on Muellers expertise, understanding or reverence of the Vedas- there are always atleast two opinions on anything Vedacharya David Frawley In search of the cradle of Civilization chadavandi "Frawley observes that Max Muller, with his hidden Christian agenda, selectively lifted metaphorical passages from the Rig Veda to buttress his"Aryan invasion from Europe" theory. Taken in its entirety the literary evidence shows the Vedic civilization as an indigenous development" Max Muellar himself ?? http://en.allexperts.com/e/m/ma/max_m%C3%BCller.htm "The translation of the Veda will hereafter tell to a great extent on the fate of India and on the growth of millions of souls in that country. It is the root of their religion, and to show them what the root is, I feel sure, is the only way of uprooting all that has sprung from it during the last 3000 years." ""Large number of Vedic hymns are childish in the extreme ; tedious, low, commonplace.". "Nay, they (the Vedas) contain, by the side of simple, natural, childish thoughts, many ideas which to us sound decidedly modern." http://www.gosai.com/chaitanya/saranagati/html/vedic-upanisa ds/india-indology_2.html aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ruj Junior Artist Username: Ruj Post Number: 487 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
Vedas eppudu raayabadinavi ani vishayaniki vasthe.. Rigveda mentions Saraswathi river many times...According to many geologists,scientists,historians Saraswathi river dried up around 4000years ago..that way we can say vedas,atleast rigveda existed before 2000BC | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 4470 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14 Rating: N/A |
@Mental_sachinodu annai same point morning coke kooda seppadu...hindu ani outsiders annaru ani | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Comedian Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 1873 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
what was the name of the religion before the word coin hinduism (as a religion ) was coined? Hinduism is relatively a new word. The word Hindu is persian(new persian), which is same as the sanskrith word Sindhu. why would a religion be named using a word of a language that was not part of the people following the religion(there are fierce arguments both supportive, and against the theory that persians might have been hindu's at some point of time). even if persian were part hindu's the old persian language word would have been handu. the word hindu suggests that the name is relatively new, and it also suggests that it is a name given by people out side sindh region. I always wondered what would have been the religion called by its followers(ideally it would have been some word or phrase from their language). the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 630 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
Lol anand, This guy is actually supporting my other argument that vedas are much older. Its good to see he thinks they were as old as 3000BC based on harappan literature. But seriously, no its not a scientific rebuttal of Muller's work. Its just a ranting of a bigoted blogger. Also, his argument that Muller was a bible fanatic is utterly foolish and absolutely baseless. Muller was an ardent devotee of Ramakrishna and his association with indology is much more than estimating the date lines of scriptures. If you have some authentic references, please cite them. Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Kalikaalam Comedian Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 1950 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 74.103.143.215 Rating: N/A |
Hiduism anedi rendu rakalau gaa cheppukovachu. Adi mana aalochana batti vuntundi..Kanchi peettaadhipathi palnaa daaniki guruvu..Bhagavdgita anedi manaku aacharaneeyam..ane angle lo vunte..adi religion.. lekundaa kudaa vundavachu.. | ||
| Kalikaalam Comedian Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 1949 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 74.103.143.215 Rating: |
Assalu sprituality ki religion ki sambhandam ye ledu.. Mattaadhipathulu spirtual souls ayye chances chaalaa thakkuva.. religion anedi almost oka poliitcal party laantidi..padavulu, daani kosam politcs gatraa..anni different style lo different terminology tho vuntaayi..anthe.. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5518 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Oka quick sample with references to other works http://indianrealist.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/did-the-vedas- get-written-around-1200-bc-says-who/
Time unnappudu search chesi istanu later if you really are curious...there are a few books...Search cheste meeke dorukutayi ee literature pieces
On another note, I remember reading somewhere that Vivekananda also said Hinduism as practised is mainly agamic not vedic - temple worship is agamic not vedic aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 626 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
Can you please give me a link to validate it? Really? Can you please mention few reasons why he cant be considered as an authority? Vivekananda him-self endorsed his works.Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5512 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
I do not know how I helped Really happy to know that it worked out for you Makes it worth the time I spend in the DB aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5511 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
I have my reasons - I have heard dates ranging from 5000 BC to 1000 BC for the Vedas And I did not say Vedas were compiled after 1000 BC - I am saying the Agamas very likely predated the Vedas and/or were independent of the Vedas I have not seen anything that puts a sequential dependency in the process.
Interesting that you consider him an authority You may not find many people who agree with you
That's your view and path, fair enough However, skepticism and critical analysis has served me very well in my pursuits The only belief really necessary is in your self Truth is pathless ani Jiddu annaru To each his own aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 625 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.44.243 Rating: |
I am also surprised that you are having such a problem in accepting it. Show me a reference which says vedas are compiled after 1000BC. Only samkhya is believed to be written just before vedas. There is no doubt about the relative origins of vedas compared to other scriptures. Max Mueller, BG Tilak, Guesse, Das and many other scholars who dedicated their lives in studying Hindu philosophy validated the time line. They were independent of each other but were all referring to vedas. I have never read any history text book that says gandhi is a saint! Also, Its preposterous to put Gandhi and vedas in the same page. Skepticism is not the solution to everything. Spiritual pursuit or any kind of achievement starts with a firm belief. Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Diviseema Side Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 2948 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 219.64.74.53 Rating: N/A |
anand garu meekosam edhuru choosthunna since few days. THANKS a LOT. mee valla naa life lo oka change jarigindhi. Good One. http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5509 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Ishan, I am surprised you found unanimous dating of scriptures -references please and another thing - even if the scriptures were written a couple hundred years apart -it does not mean they were not developed independent of each other saiva darsanas chadavandi especially pratinhijna of Kashmir saivism Analyse the primacy of deities between the Vedas, the agamas, nigamas, the puranas...an interesting but familiar pattern emerges Gandhi is the saint history books cheptunnayi - same history puts Vedas as the only foundation of Hinduism - I take both history lessons with a pinch of salt aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 624 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.44.243 Rating: N/A |
Nothing offensive to buddha...I always consider him one of the greatest souls ever walked on the earth. Hindu, Jain and BUddhistic agamas were all compiled during upanishad times around 100-900 BC, whereas, it is unanimous that Vedas were written definitely no earlier than 1000 B.C. Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5508 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Charvaka kuda accept cheyyadu, or Jainism Buddhism did not get thrown out by Hinduism - that is a very strong and wrong word to use Saiva darsanas lo Agamas are primary scriptures not Vedas - and depending on who you talk to you will get a different answer on which one is older Agamas are also considered the basis for Upanishads by some Chronology of scriptures is dicey so there will always be conjecture on what came first aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 623 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.44.243 Rating: |
advaita/ vedantha is nothing but uttara mimamsa...budhism were kicked out of hindu systems because they refused to accept the authority of vedas. LOL, ok. Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Side Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 6946 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.19.86.81 Rating: N/A |
vammo Coke tammudu entha ethuki edigi poyyav? Ekkado munigi ikkada tela | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2198 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: |
I would beg to differ. There are prescribed duties. | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 2197 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 198.135.110.2 Rating: |
perfect understanding...U pique me constantly...I like it.. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5507 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Meeru six darsanas chepparu - inka unnayi kada , advaita, advaita, vishishta advaita , the three saiva darsanas, the charvaka, buddha and jain darsanas too A darsana accepts a subset of the 6 pramanas - Veda ,anumana, pratyaksha, anupalabdi, upamana, ardhapati Not all of the darsanas accept Veda as a pramana aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11886 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
Yes. If you are born in India and you do not follow any external religion, by default you are a Hindu Vaishnavism Shaivism are religions according to me ISKCON is a perfect example of religion Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 622 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
If you dont believe in any school of thought, how do you classify yourself as a hindu? just by birth? or just because you are born in india? Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11884 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
Nope. As of I know there is no authority in hinduism no prescribed duties no afterlife deals Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 621 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: |
I believe that you need to accept vedas or upanishads as the authority. These different philosophies are nothing but different interpretations of vedas. But the starting point was vedas themselves. Nyaya, vaisheshika, samkhya, yoga, uthara mimamsa and purva mimamsa. Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Arjun1234 Comedian Username: Arjun1234 Post Number: 1671 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 198.241.217.15 Rating: |
First oka meter podavu gaddam penchuko mama... tharuwatha ELCA Baba ani start ayipo(j/k) | ||
| Telugubabu Junior Artist Username: Telugubabu Post Number: 45 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 216.235.145.222 Rating: |
why hinduism is different from other religions ? naaku thelsindi chebutha hindu word derived from samsktrit word Sindhu (River). i think hinduism is more of civilization than a religion. its a Indus (Sindhu) valley civilization. do we have a human god defined or known during the civilization period like Christ, mahammad, budha and other gods ? debatable. during that civilaztion period hinduism (indus valley civilization) just had a set of beliefs and practices. Hinduism sees god in everyrthing. every human being. jesus, mahammad, gowtham budha and other gods also part of hinduism. whats the difference between hindu gowtham budha and muslim shirdi sai baba ? why sai baba is considered as hindu god. budha as budhist religion god(actually there is no god according to gowtham. but followers made him god)Hinduism is a super set/mother of all beliefs. since we see god in everything and everyone, our belief is not considered as a religion by a popular definition. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Comedian Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 1872 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
if you ask me most religions start out as sects, infact most sects are failed religions the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Comedian Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 1871 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: |
Lafayette Hubbard choopinchaadu kadha recent ga. follow the same path. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 4426 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14 Rating: N/A |
but bathiki unnappudu it is widely regarded as cult rather than religion anukuntaa kadhaa... oka saari TV lo some juttu baba was saying that sai baba followers anydhee oka cult not a religion ani... | ||
| Rocky Comedian Username: Rocky Post Number: 1816 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 216.31.211.11 Rating: N/A |
By default you inherit it by your birth like your caste whether you like it or not. You can covert whenever you want. | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 62 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141 Rating: N/A |
First thing is you should not plan .. kiki .. most religions started after the Guru actually passed away, except for Sanatana Dharma (Oldest - no Guru) and Islam (youngest) Poorva Namadheyam - Shawshank Jai Hind | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5506 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Lol - Shambhavi ni chusi nerchukondi aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11883 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
i want to make a movie on this How can anyone say "This is my religion. God told me this is correct." ? . Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 17154 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 208.88.0.16 Rating: N/A |
If I want to start a religion where should I start??? ekkada register seskovali??? establishments costs entha undocchu??? where do i get followers (man powere)??? advertising ki entha avuddhi??? | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5505 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Idi mostly anni religions lo undi kada - idi cheste swarganiki veltavu etc... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11882 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
No one is talking about this point Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5504 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
I know it was a typo - but just the thought of Bush as the great prophet spouting his famous "isms" - made my day
I think it is because of the difference in the evolution process. All these religions started with one philosophy and branched out... Hinduism philosphies/religions on the other had started as many different philosophies and were later brought under the umbrella of one faith.. and how did you count 6 schools in Hinduism? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11881 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: N/A |
What do I need to do if I have to be a hindu? nothing Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Rocky Comedian Username: Rocky Post Number: 1812 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 216.31.211.11 Rating: N/A |
sorry for typo | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 619 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: |
Annai, baaga cheppav and I agree with you british concept of our religion, kaani naa question is why 'you' think hinduism is not a religion. BTW FYI, Bhagavadgita is not an upanishad, its a commentary of main points of Upanishads and vedas developed far recently compared to the latter. All the other major religions also have different schools of thought, different practices...christianity has 18 branches, islam has 5, shintoism 11, budhism 4 etc...But hinduism has only six philosophical schools of thought and why its the only religion thats being said as way of living? Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5503 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
 Deenni kuda religion chesara with its special mantras aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Rocky Comedian Username: Rocky Post Number: 1811 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 216.31.211.11 Rating: |
Non-spiritual aspects of religions are like 1. Culture 2. Controls etc Whatver points you mentioned in your first posting are infact core components of a religion. Hinduism had its existience since Mauryas' time. Hinduism reached its peak of its popularity during Guptas' time. It spread its wings to South East Asia countries such as Thai, indonesia , then to China etc. But Western people especially British interpreted it in a different way. In fact Bushism, Sikhism and Jainism are not religions, rather they are sects. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5502 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Don't take it otherwise - but mee posts lo idivaraku unna balance taggi hatred/rhetoric vaipu veltunnattu anipistundi It may be just perception, but it takes away the effectiveness of the message And always a cool mind that separates itself from the issue can work more effectively than a hot head aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kamal Junior Artist Username: Kamal Post Number: 59 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141 Rating: N/A |
Super cheppav annai .. nee understanding .. naa understanding okkate anukuntunna !
meeru anukunnattu ga .. nenu non-Hindus ni hate cheyyanu andi .. Poorva Namadheyam - Shawshank Jai Hind | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5501 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
A religion is normally defined as a system of faith , rituals and practices with a unique philosophy driving them... Hinduism has many different philosophies with its diverse systems of practices and rituals, which evolved in diverse locations and timeframes with some or no overlap between them - which is why Hinduism does not fit the textbook definition of a religion aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11880 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: |
i am glad you asked. All these misunderstandings are because of trying to fit a circle into a triangle. When imperialists came to India, they tried to understand India through their point of view. Their assumptions are 1. People have god 2. People have a religion 3. They have a holy book In reality we do not have any of these. We are a society mainly based on vedas. THEY gave us a religion and named it HINDUISM THEY declared that our holy book is Bhagavadgita. in reality it is just one of the upanishads Our spirituality is based on relation between atma and paramaatma. Try try try .... you will succeed | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 618 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: |
I keep hearing this statement time to time. Can you please explain why Hinduism is not a religion and just a way of living? and how the definition holds for other religions? Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Cocanada Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 11841 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.4 Rating: |
I think most of the conflict between religions is because of non-spiritual aspects. Philosophy wise, the difference between dwaitam and adwaitam is far greater than between religions Conflicting aspects are 1. Name of the god 2. 'Afterlife on sale' deals 3. culture and practices Jesus never said anything other than love everyone. Church added lot of masala to it. like hell, seven sins , Satan, saints etc etc church wants to control the masses with these rules same thing with islam. what others hate is their practices, dressing, suppression of women, violent nature etc hinduism is not a religion according to me. Bottom line. what we are seeing is more a clash of races or cultures in the name of god Try try try .... you will succeed |
