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If a corruption case supposed to have happened in 1987, is not investigated till 1998, and you say, it is the fault of the govt that only formed in 1998, that the case has not been investigated. God be with Indians !!!
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i take this point.....though....

It didnt need to be BJP and 1998 to take up this case.....

previous govt should have dealt with them.....

only that if BJP picks it up ......it looks like vengance....

but we need to learn to accept courts judgements as well....not just what we want as a conclusion.....
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Think beyond BJP once for a change, and you will see the most corrupt govt on earth laughing its way to Italy with hefty pockets. Thats all I can say
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with all due respect.....

same can be said and on same lines....

think beyond Italy and Gandhis.....for a change....

all of us love India....there is nothing like i more and you less.......
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fine .. after all, there is a limit to what one can fight. Bofors is not about BJP. It is about who got the money. How, time and again, the offenders used the powers at their discretion to subvert judiciary and state machinery. If a corruption case supposed to have happened in 1987, is not investigated till 1998, and you say, it is the fault of the govt that only formed in 1998, that the case has not been investigated. God be with Indians !!!

Think beyond BJP once for a change, and you will see the most corrupt govt on earth laughing its way to Italy with hefty pockets. Thats all I can say !
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LOL .. we are talking about India. If I am heading the central govt, I can get a favorable verdict on the same case within the next 1 year. Ofcourse, my opponents will also surely lobby. It is about which judge is in the bench that is sitting on the case and what are their affiliations. It is that much simple !
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i dont think it is that straight forward for ruling govts sir.....

If so...BJP would have got their version as the conclusion kadha? same can be said about other cases as well....

r u saying...BJP is the only party...that did not indulge in getting the bofors case done and dusted in the way they wanted ? you said.. a ruling govt can get their way in 1 year kadha?

oh you must be saying...BJP is so clean that...they didnt touch the bench or judges and waited for justice to happen to Rajiv.....and allow him to be cleared under their govt......
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deliberately----- is this a finding....or allegation.....?




Not an allegation by any measure. That is the reason why I gave you the editorial of N. Ram of The Hindu, who is aggressively pursuing the case since 1988. Btw, if Hindu has to be affiliated to a party or political leaning .. it is the most lef-leaning newspaper in India.


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Nobody would have thought there was any public interest left in Bofors, a quintessential 20th century corruption scandal involving top political figures in India and Sweden. But the ghosts of Bofors have a habit of returning to haunt the functionaries and apologists of the party behind the scandal and its cover-up. Congress or Congress-led governments have gone to extraordinary lengths over two decades to obstruct and subvert justice in the Bofors criminal case. The latest instance is getting the Central Bureau of Investigation to ask Interpol to withdraw its Red Corner Notice against Ottavio Quattrocchi, the sole surviving accused in the corruption case and a fugitive from justice. This allows the Italian wheeler-dealer, who enjoyed unrestricted access to the highest reaches of power in 1986 when the Rs.1,437 crore howitzer deal was struck, to travel abroad without fear of arrest or extradition. It is not as though evidence on his key role in the Bofors scandal is in short supply. Swiss bank documents and a mass of other evidence assembled by the CBI in its criminal investigation have established that, using a front called A.E. Services Ltd., Mr. Quattrocchi and his wife received kickbacks amounting to $7.32 million from the Swedish arms manufacturer for no demonstrable services rendered.





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Congress or Congress-led governments have gone to extraordinary lengths over two decades to obstruct and subvert justice in the Bofors criminal case.




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thammullu...be frank ga cheppandi...independent india lo was there any politician who was ever convicted???




very few people like Sukhram, Telecom minister in PVNR govt.
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/independent india lo was there any politician who was ever convicted???/

Lalooooooooo uncle & Jayaaaaaaa Aunty
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thammullu...be frank ga cheppandi...independent india lo was there any politician who was ever convicted???
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nuvvu undavayya.....

time pass kanivvakunda.....direct questions aduguthaav......

nee question ki answer....
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great.....govt get their own judicial conclusions anna maata aithey......idaithey naaku theliyadhu.....




LOL .. we are talking about India. If I am heading the central govt, I can get a favorable verdict on the same case within the next 1 year. Ofcourse, my opponents will also surely lobby. It is about which judge is in the bench that is sitting on the case and what are their affiliations. It is that much simple !
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thammullu...be frank ga cheppandi...independent india lo was there any politician who was ever convicted???
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If the govt deliberately asks its Public Prosecutors to argue with the court that
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deliberately----- is this a finding....or allegation.....?
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If the govt deliberately asks its Public Prosecutors to argue with the court that, this is the evidence we have, you take it or ask them to go away, that surely rises the doubts. You can ask any lawyer, how things are dealt in a court of law.

If you deliberately conceal the available evidence in order to facilitate a subversion of law, then that is by far, stooping to the lowest !
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By that time, the BJP govt was dissolved and election dates were announced.
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so you think court should have told otherwise if BJP was in power?

great.....govt get their own judicial conclusions anna maata aithey......idaithey naaku theliyadhu.....
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but it is the duty of the successive govts lo catch the criminals and take the case to its logical and judicial conclusion ..
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so when a court clears Rajiv, BJP or its supporters doesnt take it as a conclusion then.....endukalaaga?

or the logical or Judicial conclusion os only when they get the result they want?



naa drustilo.....Rajiv is a culprit......in that particular case.....but someone needs to draw a line on this and move forward kadha....If we dont like what court says.....then i dont know what to say

congress hayam lo jarigedhi antha valla conspiracy antaaru thamaru.....same is said by congis on BJP ruling govt's
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jagan ni kooda cm seseyyandi




jagananna ki italy tho sambandam unte seppu .. seseddam .. no big deal ..
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em vayya quattrocchi ni odhilestharu but maa jagananna ni cm seyyatanikiemo onkalu edatharu....jagan ni kooda cm seseyyandi...ap pajalu aathranga ongoni unnaru .....
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Film_fan:

coffins scam.....satire or joke yena? asalu jaraga ledha? or adhi oppostion congress kutra.....




abaddam cheppalsina avasaram naaku ledu .. aa scam jarigindi ani nammutunna .. but it is the duty of the successive govts lo catch the criminals and take the case to its logical and judicial conclusion ..

But Bofors case lo .. Sonia literally saved the skin of Rajiv/Quattrochi and her Italian ilk.

Film_fan:

February 5, 2004




By that time, the BJP govt was dissolved and election dates were announced. Also the case was in the Delhi High Court where the Delhi State Govt has more jurisdiction than the Central Govt. I still hope, truth comes out one day, if not for the money. It is true that Rajiv and the relatives of Sonia were involved in that scam, and that is the reason why many ministers in his cabinet including Arun Nehru (Rajiv's best friend, cousin and key aide), VP Singh, Amitabh (just an MP) all resigned. No wonder, the deal broke the trust of all those people who knew in and outs of the murky dealings !!!
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inka pavala okkadey.....raavali.....sunil icon tho.....
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go through every word and come back strongly !!!
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indulo strongly ....weakly yemi undavu brother.....

andharam...adey keyboard....adhey google.....

Kaksha sadimphu charya ga case nadiparu.....thappa....case finish cheyyali ani ledhu BJP ki.....antaanu....

coffins scam.....satire or joke yena? asalu jaraga ledha? or adhi oppostion congress kutra.....

manandiriki edho oka line untundhi kadha.....support chesukotaniki.....sadaru parties ni?
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Meanwhile February 5, 2004 the Delhi High Court quashed the charges of bribery against Rajiv Gandhi and others,[5] but the case is still being tried on charges of cheating, causing wrongful loss to the Government, etc. On May 31, 2005, the High court of Delhi dismissed the Bofors case allegations against the British business brothers, Shrichand, Gopichand and Prakash Hinduja.[6]
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bribery charges kottesindhi Feb 2004 antunnadu......

general election matram tharvatha jarigindhi.......antey BJP under loney....rajiv ni clear chesara?

wiki wrong kooda ayyindocchu......
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coffins scam lo busy......


ok.....BJP edo okati chesey untaru kadha shaw brother......yem chesaru 98 to 2004 on bofors?




abbo .. sattire ee .. strong ga ledu .. malli try cheyyandi ..

go google it and know .. who diluted the strong position of Govt in the Bofors case.

Tips from my side .. http://www.thehindu.com/fline/fl2405/stories/200703230042123 00.htm

N. Ram of Hindu was investigating this case from 1988 ..

His editorial .. "Brazen subversion of justice" dated 30 April, 2009.

http://www.hindu.com/2009/04/30/stories/2009043055640800.htm

go through every word and come back strongly !!!
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BJP 6 years rule chesindi emi peekaru appudu?




lol .. asalu Bofors case start start chesinde BJP ee vishayam lo .. upto 1998 .. kanisam prima facie evidence/facts kooda collect cheyyanivva ledu govt ni .. and till 2004 .. the govt had very strong position in the case .. kaavalante .. you can google it and know .. after the UPA came up in 2004 .. first thing they did was to dilute the case by misleading the Delhi High Court and then letting Quattrochi guy let go in Malaysia and then Argentina.

Ask any lawyer or simply google it to find links.
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naa chinnappatnichi vundi ee case. yevadoo yem peekalepoyaaru. close chesi vaadiki redcarpet paravatam better. ika italy family members mottham delhi lone makaam anukuntaa
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BJP 6 years rule chesindi emi peekaru appudu?
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antey appudu....adhi...

coffins scam lo busy......


ok.....BJP edo okati chesey untaru kadha shaw brother......yem chesaru 98 to 2004 on bofors?
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BJP 6 years rule chesindi emi peekaru appudu?
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Sonia amma ki relatives/mogudu ante entha premo .. dabbulu dobbesina .. eega kooda vaalanivvatledu .. :D
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gali galime shore hain
Rajiv gandhi chor hain..




hehe .. naaku sarigga ardam kooda telidu aa rojullo .. aina repeat chesevaadini .. :D
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naku itta gurthu unde

Gali gali shore hai
NTR chore hai.
TDP bore hai
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evergreen slogan..
gali galime shore hain
Rajiv gandhi chor hain.. :D
Ekkado munigi ikkada tela
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manchi pani chesindi.. lekunte

Rajive mida eppatiki ido ka maccha..
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http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/sep/29/centre-drops-bofor s-case-against-quattrocchi.htm

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