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     Abhysg Side Hero Username: Abhysg Post Number: 2324 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 64.30.71.225 Rating: N/A |
ayite DMK/ADMK/XDMK lu annee moostara inka | ||
| Risingstar Hero Username: Risingstar Post Number: 12947 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 98.225.199.48 Rating: N/A |
I heard this theory.. | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 454 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.92.205.44 Rating: N/A |
This means approximately 5.5 individuals per group. Added with inter-group (states) variation, statistical power of this study would be very less because of high variation regardless of the number of gene markers they analyzed. I doubt their conclusions. Integrity means doing it right when no one is looking | ||
| Subzero Side Hero Username: Subzero Post Number: 2772 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 59.93.91.206 Rating: N/A |
bump for sopathi kammas and brahmins have 99% of their genes same anta kadaa | ||
| Lakshmana Junior Artist Username: Lakshmana Post Number: 115 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 59.93.112.59 Rating: N/A |
you seems to be a caste fanatic ! | ||
| Shawshank Side Hero Username: Shawshank Post Number: 4755 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 173.95.184.250 Rating: N/A |
Historians annav .. cut seste .. next link lo kamboj society website ettav ..  .. ooruko saami .. Desi gaallu andaru okkate .. madhyalo kontha mandi Aryans ata .. neeeeeeeee.."Dharma" is that which upholds, nourishes or supports the stability of the society, maintains the social order and secures the general well-being and progress of man-kind. - Supreme Court of India | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5246 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for the refresher  Been a looooooong time since I studied genetics and evolutionary biology aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ipc302 Side Hero Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 3208 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.81.129 Rating: N/A |
gene mutations which lead to human evolution might not be of individual origin...for a population to survive it must reproduce at a certain rate and pass on the genotype to the next generation so if a mutation is based on an individualistic origin it might not survive or become widespread most changes in the genome might have been due to genetic drift and natural selection....sometimes when the population goes thru a sudden shift, a bottle neck situation arises which causes only a fragment of population to survive and only that gene pool will become prevalent.... evolutionary biologists say we have gone thru this kind of process a number of times | ||
| Ashton Side Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 2061 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 77.243.236.30 Rating: N/A |
http://www.kambojsociety.com/Kamma.asp | ||
| Shawshank Side Hero Username: Shawshank Post Number: 4751 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 173.95.184.250 Rating: N/A |
edi .. oka link ettu .. aa anna edhava evado sooddaam .. "Dharma" is that which upholds, nourishes or supports the stability of the society, maintains the social order and secures the general well-being and progress of man-kind. - Supreme Court of India | ||
| Ashton Side Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 2059 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 77.243.236.30 Rating: |
But It is true in case of kamma caste...Some historians opined that the name Kamma is probably derived from Kambhoja, an ancient Aryan warrior clan. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5243 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Got it - I was speaking figuratively But you are in the field right ? If at all human evolution happened thru gene mutation - does it occur in population simultaneously or in an individual ?aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ipc302 Side Hero Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 3206 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.81.129 Rating: |
baba ee obsession with white color endi neeku...eppudu ardham kaadhu every caste which considers itself to have a fair complexion has tried to identify itself with aryan lineage which is sad and truly pathetic....akkada genetically speaking no differences ante nuvvu rangu ruchi chikkadanam antavu endi | ||
| Shawshank Side Hero Username: Shawshank Post Number: 4749 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 173.95.184.250 Rating: N/A |
 "Dharma" is that which upholds, nourishes or supports the stability of the society, maintains the social order and secures the general well-being and progress of man-kind. - Supreme Court of India | ||
| Risingstar Hero Username: Risingstar Post Number: 12857 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 98.225.199.48 Rating: N/A |
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| Ipc302 Side Hero Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 3205 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.81.129 Rating: N/A |
i was pointing out the fact that "eve" is not a single perosn...yes the mtDNA that we have in all the races belongs to a certain female "eve" found in africa...but theoretically speaking "eve" is a part of a group of females living in that period of time at that place in africa | ||
| Ashton Side Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 2058 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 66.90.65.76 Rating: |
I think only besides North Indians , kamma caste people in AP are true descendants of Ayan Greek people. You can see the real difference in skin color among kamma caste people and other caste people. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5242 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Isn't that what the Human Genographic project and also the Human Genome project indicate - Out of Africa Is there conflicting research ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ipc302 Side Hero Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 3202 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.81.129 Rating: N/A |
are u sure?did the entire mankind evolve from one single woman i think "eve" Mitochondrial Eve is believed to have lived between 150,000 to 250,000 years BP, probably in East Africa, in the region of Tanzania and areas to the immediate south and west. The individual lived during a period of time when Homo sapiens were developing as a species separate from other hominid species. As an individual she lived in a small population (between 4000 and 5000 females capable of producing offspring at any given time). This study is from 132 individuals - is that comprehensive enough ? numerically small but may be genetically they looked at a large number of markers | ||
| Teluguhero Junior Artist Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 624 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 76.106.199.48 Rating: N/A |
The study analysed 500,000 genetic markers across the genomes of 132 individuals from 25 diverse groups from 13 states. All the individuals were from six-language families and traditionally ``upper'' and ``lower'' castes and tribal groups. ` | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 5239 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Saw this last week and even started a post...and deleted it - Navaratri lo Devi dhyanam chesukokunda ee debate endukule ani For people who want to divide , there is no dearth of reason and research. All said and done all this research points to one woman in Africa as the mother of Humanity However , from a history point of view couple of interesting points : This study is from 132 individuals - is that comprehensive enough ? The research does indicate that Southern Indian population preceded the Northern by 25000 years...does than change the linguistic chronology and potentially the age of the literature ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Shawshank Side Hero Username: Shawshank Post Number: 4739 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 173.95.184.250 Rating: N/A |
Britishers were successful !!! "Dharma" is that which upholds, nourishes or supports the stability of the society, maintains the social order and secures the general well-being and progress of man-kind. - Supreme Court of India | ||
| Ipc302 Side Hero Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 3201 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.81.129 Rating: N/A |
most belive aryan theory has been foisted upon us by the britishers to divide the country among regional lines of course there are a lot of people in north who take pride in being aryan for some dubious reasons...they belive they r descendants from central asia or estern european origin | ||
| Teluguhero Junior Artist Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 623 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 76.106.199.48 Rating: N/A |
Many tamil people believed blindly this theory and started hating north indians.LOL | ||
| Teluguhero Junior Artist Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 622 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 76.106.199.48 Rating: N/A |
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/india/Aryan-Dravidia n-divide-a-myth-Study/articleshow/5053274.cms Aryan-Dravidian divide a myth: Study TNN 25 September 2009, 01:16am IST HYDERABAD: The great Indian divide along north-south lines now stands blurred. A pathbreaking study by Harvard and indigenous researchers on ancestral Indian populations says there is a genetic relationship between all Indians and more importantly, the hitherto believed ``fact'' that Aryans and Dravidians signify the ancestry of north and south Indians might after all, be a myth. ``This paper rewrites history... there is no north-south divide,'' Lalji Singh, former director of the Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology (CCMB) and a co-author of the study, said at a press conference here on Thursday. Senior CCMB scientist Kumarasamy Thangarajan said there was no truth to the Aryan-Dravidian theory as they came hundreds or thousands of years after the ancestral north and south Indians had settled in India. The study analysed 500,000 genetic markers across the genomes of 132 individuals from 25 diverse groups from 13 states. All the individuals were from six-language families and traditionally ``upper'' and ``lower'' castes and tribal groups. ``The genetics proves that castes grew directly out of tribe-like organizations during the formation of the Indian society,'' the study said. Thangarajan noted that it was impossible to distinguish between castes and tribes since their genetics proved they were not systematically different. The study was conducted by CCMB scientists in collaboration with researchers at Harvard Medical School, Harvard School of Public Health and the Broad Institute of Harvard and MIT. It reveals that the present-day Indian population is a mix of ancient north and south bearing the genomic contributions from two distinct ancestral populations - the Ancestral North Indian (ANI) and the Ancestral South Indian (ASI). ``The initial settlement took place 65,000 years ago in the Andamans and in ancient south India around the same time, which led to population growth in this part,'' said Thangarajan. He added, ``At a later stage, 40,000 years ago, the ancient north Indians emerged which in turn led to rise in numbers here. But at some point of time, the ancient north and the ancient south mixed, giving birth to a different set of population. And that is the population which exists now and there is a genetic relationship between the population within India.'' The study also helps understand why the incidence of genetic diseases among Indians is different from the rest of the world. Singh said that 70% of Indians were burdened with genetic disorders and the study could help answer why certain conditions restricted themselves to one population. For instance, breast cancer among Parsi women, motor neuron diseases among residents of Tirupati and Chittoor, or sickle cell anaemia among certain tribes in central India and the North-East can now be understood better, said researchers. The researchers, who are now keen on exploring whether Eurasians descended from ANI, find in their study that ANIs are related to western Eurasians, while the ASIs do not share any similarity with any other population across the world. However, researchers said there was no scientific proof of whether Indians went to Europe first or the other way round. Migratory route of Africans Between 135,000 and 75,000 years ago, the East-African droughts shrunk the water volume of the lake Malawi by at least 95%, causing migration out of Africa. Which route did they take? Researchers say their study of the tribes of Andaman and Nicobar islands using complete mitochondrial DNA sequences and its comparison those of world populations has led to the theory of a ``southern coastal route'' of migration from East Africa through India. This finding is against the prevailing view of a northern route of migration via Middle East, Europe, south-east Asia, Australia and then to India. |
