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I think Chiranjeevi will become more mature with time and improve the cadre at ground level and start working
for next elections...

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LOL .. ante Congress chestunna appeasement valla permanent ga fabric change avvatleda country ki .. kiki .. ROFL ..
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Eindi bassu, but which caused MORE DAMAGE? Again RELATIVE, for me BJP's actions caused MORE DAMAGE.

Congress actions also caused DAMAGE, but it was trying to UPLIFT economically downtrodden religion in INDIA by various SOPS.
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Shawshank:




aayanathoo discuss chesthunnaduku ichanu aa look

After Godhra kantee After Bluestar ekkuva jarigayu...adhi pattinchukooru secularists..
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mari lekunte endanna .. Riots annadu aayan .. Congress vaalle ekkuva mandini champaru ga .. BJP kante ante .. violence damaging fabric permanently ani secular lessons cheptunnadu .. Congress chesina minority appeasement valla 4% muslims .. ee roju 16-17% ki vaste adi permanent kaadata .. 0.8% unde Xians .. 4-5% ki vachina permanent kaadu ata .. kiki ..

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If Yesayya(YSR) died one year or 6 months before the 2009 elections you would have had the advantage of
Coming to power in 2009 elections due to congress internal fights.

But now Yesayya(YSR) died just after bringing congress into power and I don’t think you have any advatnge
due to his death now yedho mee paishaaachinka mu thappa reality gaa chooste political gaa yemi advantage ledhu.

2014 is another 5 years which is very long time. Congress is very stable at the central and will become
Very strong by next elections.

More middle class educated votes will go to Loksatta in next elections.

I don’t think Chiranjeevi will repeat same mistakes he did in 2009 and I think he will learn from
His mistakes and keep working on building the party.

But the problem with TDP is people are not beliving CBN, TDP is still getting votes because of
Anti incumbency against congress, when people see JP or Chiranjeevi as alternative
then CBN is dead fish.
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Gsn1:

They didn't follow WHAT THEY WERE PREACHING.




That is due to their allies like TDP, DMK, NC, AGP, BJD, JDU etc ..

Gsn1:


Congress is also using Religion for VOTES, but they are using it by MONETARY and RESERVATIONS etc. for appeasement.



Gsn1:


But BJP used it using VIOLENT TACTICS which killed thousands of innocent people lives, which permanently damanged religious fabric of the country.




LOL .. ante Congress chestunna appeasement valla permanent ga fabric change avvatleda country ki .. kiki .. ROFL ..
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Hindu:

Operation blue star was to save hindus from sikh atrcocities. Hindu killings by sikh extrmists




LOL .. very very wrong info .. check your sources and come back !!! It was simply a pro-religion/region secessionist movement .. not anti-religion (Hindus)

Hindu:

Operation Blue star was very daring step and I don�t think any current politician would have done
That and she lost her life due to that.




It was her mistake to encourage Khalistani movement during 1975-80 to weaken her political opponents. Once she is in govt, she had to behave as she is supposed to when in an establishment and she was infact victim of her own politics.

Hindu:

It was she who started nuclear weapons and tested nuclear weapons back in 1973.




Correct, she certainly deserves the credit for that.

Hindu:

What her mistake was putting Emergency but she later realized her mistake and went to Jail.




You say, she realized the mistake of Emergency .. when was that .. did she apologize to the nation??? Never .. She actually was toppled due to the public anger and movement towards democracy .. do not try to twist history !!!
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Congratulations on becoming congress fans does not matter whether due to love or hatred.

Whether it is Rosayya or someone else does not matter still they belong to congress.

I think you guys decided that TDP WILL NEVER come to power and started supporting Rosayya, KK, VH
who lesser than two evils.

Congress future is very BRIGHT both in state and country.

Muslim population is growing very fast and now muslims votes are again back to congress which we saw
In last elections even in UP , Bihar, West Bengal, Assam etc….

Ans also Rahul Gandhi is becoming more matured and can pull some votes due to his prime minister candidacy.

BJP is becoming weak due to internal conflicts and aging of top leaders like Vajpayee and Advani.

In state Lok Satta, PRP will be there and Loksatta will get more votes than now in next elections.

I think Chiranjeevi will become more mature with time and improve the cadre at ground level and start working
for next elections.

Ye vidhamu gaa choosina TDP bhavisyattu aaashaaa janakamu gaaa ledhu.
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Hindu

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YSR/CBN evariki entha free hand ichharo andarki telusu... same discussion vere topic vasthe CBN evariki emi cheyyaledu ani cheptharu... ee thread lo matram CBN TDP lo vunna factionists ni encourage chesaru antaru
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Again everything is RELATIVE brother.

When COMPARED who is WORSE? For you it is TDP, For me it is Congress.

I gave my reasoning for my beleifs.

In any CASE, I don't like POLITICIANS who resort to PHYSICAL VIOLENCE, followed by CORRUPTION.

In my view, both of the ABOVE is more in State Congress.
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Gsn1:

But BJP used it using VIOLENT TACTICS which killed thousands of innocent people lives, which permanently damanged religious fabric of the country.




Godhra aftermath sare asalu Godhra endhuku jarigindi. Mana state lo Cong govt vunnappude endhuku violent religios incidents jarigayi.. Chenna Reddy CM padavi elaa voodindhi
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Gsn1:

I used to be fan of BJP (for that matter ANY party EXCEPT congress), but I didn't like their USE OF RELIGION for power grab (I can justify that as THERE WAS NO OTHER OPTION THAT COULD BREAK the GRIP of Congress's IRON FIST at the power), which costed LOT OF INNOCENT LIVES.




How was that brother ? if you calculate the number of people who lost lives in riots due to Congress and BJP .. the tally would be inclined towards Congress. Take Delhi riots, Bhagalpur riots, Hyd riots of 1990, Riots in TN and elsewhere after assassination of Rajiv, compare them to riots after Babri and 2002 Guj riots .. the figures are astonishingly pro-Congress .. but why is BJP portrayed extremist? just because you have the entire media in your grip and then the govt machinery which will manipulate the figures and issues as you want ..

Gsn1:

What really ticked me off was their handling of CARGIL WAR. BJP use to claim they are anti-pakistan, but during their ruling THEY DIDN't DO ANYTHING to offset PAKISTAN's tactics, more over BJP had fought Pakistan's proxy fighters weakley costing lot of INDIAN ARMY men loose their lives.




Kargil was very different from the wars that the Indian Army fought previously. It was only Kashmir - centric or even say, restricted to Drass, Batallik, Gilgit and Drass sectors along with Poonch and some small areas. The enemy was placed (infact well placed) at heights which means each soldier was equalent to 200 soldiers of Indian Army positioned below. Also there is tremendous international pressure not to escalate the war into a full-blown war by crossing the LoC. Mind you, this is on the back of diplomatic and economic sanctions the previous year for carrying out N-tests. So when you evaluate, evaluate it on the back of all the info pertaining to that situation.

Gsn1:

present central congress is MUCH MUCH better than WHAT CONGRESS USE TO BE under Indira.




Some what true, and some what false .. Indira used to be strong on opponents both internal (wrongly) and external (rightly). Rajiv's era started the more danger for India, aggressive minority appeasement, govt encouragement for demographic change of India and a confused external policy. Certainly, congress of these days is better compared to Indira that she does not use power on internal opponents, but that is also due to todays congress not as power as Indira's era. That is the beauty of democracy. Infact, parties and policies change according to public tunes. The congress of today is continuing the Rajiv policy of minority appeasement, economic reform of PVNR era .. so it certainly appears moderate and good !
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Takeit...

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You say BJP is and Cong is not using religiion for votes
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Congress is also using Religion for VOTES, but they are using it by MONETARY and RESERVATIONS etc. for appeasement.

But BJP used it using VIOLENT TACTICS which killed thousands of innocent people lives, which permanently damanged religious fabric of the country.

OK, even if we excuse the above, WHAT DID THEY DO AFTER COMING TO POWER TO OFFSET THE congress appeasement of minorities?

They didn't follow WHAT THEY WERE PREACHING. Also even though their ruling was not that bad (EXCEPT CARGIL's episode), the CURRENT congress ruling is MUCH BETTER THAN their ruling.
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Gsn1:

I beleive THESE PEOPLE BECAME like this AS THEIR OPPONENTS were GOONDAS and always USE TO RESORT to VIOLENCE, so the above elected the same route (MULLUNU MULLU thone thiaalli ane siddantam).

Same is not SAME FOR THEIR OPPONENTS. THEY HAD NO OPPOSITION LIKE THAT, by nature THEY BECAME like that.

ALSO I am not supporter of the above people, I WANT THEM TO BE PUNISHED BY LAW.




YSR/CBN evariki entha free hand ichharo andarki telusu... same discussion vere topic vasthe CBN evariki emi cheyyaledu ani cheptharu... ee thread lo matram CBN TDP lo vunna factionists ni encourage chesaru antaru
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CONGRESS USE TO BE under Indira.///

Indira Gandhi was better than any current politician even better than Vajpayeee and Advani.

Operation blue star was to save hindus from sikh atrcocities. Hindu killings by sikh extrmists
Was everyday news those days.

Operation Blue star was very daring step and I don’t think any current politician would have done
That and she lost her life due to that.

And also 1971 war. It was due to her strong leadership qualities we won 1971 war very easily.
after that Pakistan never dared to touch india until Indira was alive.

It was she who started nuclear weapons and tested nuclear weapons back in 1973.

What her mistake was putting Emergency but she later realized her mistake and went to Jail.

How many of current prime ministers for that matter even Chief ministers are going to Jail.
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Gsn1:

I didn't like their USE OF RELIGION for power grab




Idhi may be diff thread lo discuss cheyyochhemo. You say BJP is and Cong is not using religiion for votes
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malli confusion�.
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No confusion, please see my reply to Shawshank.

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Paritala Ravi, Kodela, KE , Rama Subba Reddy, Bhooma Nagi Reddy, Siva Reddy,
Kapptral vekatappa Naidu, Karanam Balaram vella anthaa yevvaru�.
Mahatma Gandhi cousins aaaa????
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Veellevaru Mahatma Gandhi cousins KADHU.

I beleive THESE PEOPLE BECAME like this AS THEIR OPPONENTS were GOONDAS and always USE TO RESORT to VIOLENCE, so the above elected the same route (MULLUNU MULLU thone thiaalli ane siddantam).

Same is not SAME FOR THEIR OPPONENTS. THEY HAD NO OPPOSITION LIKE THAT, by nature THEY BECAME like that.

ALSO I am not supporter of the above people, I WANT THEM TO BE PUNISHED BY LAW.

If the ORIGINAL CULPRITS WERE HANDLED BY LAW, then I sincerely beleive MOST OF THE people from the above list would have NOT TURNED THAT WAY.

Better LATE THAN NEVER, THESE PEOPLE ALSO SHOULD BE PUNISHED BY LAW so that THERE WON't BE ANOTHER generation of CRAP/CROP like this.
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nenu ee point ki single vesa
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No problem brother. I used to be fan of BJP (for that matter ANY party EXCEPT congress), but I didn't like their USE OF RELIGION for power grab (I can justify that as THERE WAS NO OTHER OPTION THAT COULD BREAK the GRIP of Congress's IRON FIST at the power), which costed LOT OF INNOCENT LIVES.

What really ticked me off was their handling of CARGIL WAR. BJP use to claim they are anti-pakistan, but during their ruling THEY DIDN't DO ANYTHING to offset PAKISTAN's tactics, more over BJP had fought Pakistan's proxy fighters weakley costing lot of INDIAN ARMY men loose their lives.

And also, I use to like BJP when Indira gandhi was doing all these NEECHAPU politicis, but EVERYTHING CHANGED after Indira's death and present central congress is MUCH MUCH better than WHAT CONGRESS USE TO BE under Indira.
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Rosayya Vs Yesayya///

Inkaa yekkada yesayya saami…

Yesayya yelli poyi 26 days ayyindhi ippatiki…

Yesayya untee nuvvu inko 5 yrs anni moosukoni undevaadivi.

Yesayya undi unte Rosayya yemi chestundevaadu neeku thelusu, nenu cheppanakkara ledhu

Yesyya yelli poyinaaa mimmulanu maatramu 2014 varaku anni moosukoni undetatlu chesi poyaadu…
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Hindu:

Mahatma Gandhi cousins aaaa????




only cousin , YS jagan eppudu vunnavallo, ayana antha goppa vyakti ekokaru vundaru
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that is why I like TDP (compared to Congress) in the state and Congress (compared to BJP) at central.///

malli confusion….

Congress is same every where whether it is in andhra or in other states…they follow same tactics,
Same minority licking politics, same corruption , same Goodanism every where but for some reason
You hate state congress but like central congress…

Actually speaking lesser of two evils is BJP…. If you compare with congress you can find more
Uncorrupted leaders in BJP, who worry about majority people, don’t lick minorities, terrorists,
no threat to hindusm under BJP rule.

If congress rules another 50 years there is no doubt that India will become muslim majority govt..

And hindu population will decrease very fast after that.

Do you think there is no corruption and Gundaism in TDP???

CBN ruling unnappudu jarigina scams ye govt unnappudu kooda jaragaledhu….

CBN ruling lo jarigina naxalite attacks ye govt unnappudu kooda jaragaledhu…

Paritala Ravi, Kodela, KE , Rama Subba Reddy, Bhooma Nagi Reddy, Siva Reddy,
Kapptral vekatappa Naidu, Karanam Balaram vella anthaa yevvaru….
Mahatma Gandhi cousins aaaa????
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