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     Shawshank Side Hero Username: Shawshank Post Number: 4034 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 173.95.184.250 Rating: N/A |
Yes. Also supported by Madam Sonia.
Again, Muslims ki alanti facility isthene power lo ki vastamu ane idea ni harvest chesina Janata (Muslims and other liberals, or whatever you want to call them) di tappu. Same way, let us not break this vicious circle and enjoy power ane political parties low-stooping mindsets di. These kind of minds are at best, a joy ride on a downward spiral, everybody tries to out beat the other stooper ! Ekam Sat, Viprah Bahuda Vadhanti - Rig Veda  | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 133 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.238.50 Rating: N/A |
Ippudu pakistan hand undi, appudu afghanisthan hand untunde, anthe theda.
Wound might not have healed, but we are still alive and have a hope that it would heal. I dont think they presumed these problems during partition. As some one said, partition was a blessing in disguise.
I disagree. The situation might have been lot worse in case partition didnt happen. Hostile neighbours eppudu untaaru. Look at china. they pose greater threat than pak. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4848 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
This is purely our self-serving leaders ensuring their votebanks and shame on them - If i recall right this was Arjun Singh's brainchild ? Facility iste evaraina use chesukuntaru - especially if the madrasa is a less competitve environment. These are govt. blunders that keep the divides open so they can harvest them at will.. aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Shawshank Side Hero Username: Shawshank Post Number: 4033 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 173.95.184.250 Rating: N/A |
Madrasas ni ban cheyyalsina avasaram ledu andi .. you should not encourage them .. thats it .. In 2005, UPA govt passed a law, where in, you study 10 years in a madrasa, you get a certificate from CBSE equaling to 10th standard certificate. How good of a policy is that? What is the center trying to tell Muslims with that law? In my view, it is telling Muslims to learn Quran and Hadiths in Arabic and still you get a CBSE certificate, enabling you to obtain a govt job with a minimum qualification of 10th standard. Is that fair? If many govt servants learn just Quran and Hadiths without much exposure to the world, how good will the governance be? Also what is the govt intention in doing that? Is that enabling Muslims to be on par with the world? Is it pure negative way of looking at things, one leading to other. This way of dealing with things has to be done away with, no matter who is in the govt, for the sake of progressive nation-building. Coming to UCC, I agree with you that no party in its present form and shape has the guts to go for it. But if at all there is some hope to see it as a law in this country, to me, only BJP can do that. But for that BJP has to reform itself much. It has to reinvent itself, not just for the sake of itself, but for the sake of the "Janta" of this country. Ekam Sat, Viprah Bahuda Vadhanti - Rig Veda | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4847 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Don't we blame most of these on the foreign hand anyway Instigate chesevade leka pote inta severity undedi kademo
Ippudu telusu kani 1947 time lo why did they make the presumption ani ? I have a strong suspicion that a lot of the ills today are caused by the infection of that amputation wound that has never healed ...
Along with the permanent hostility with neighbors and a religious rift that the politicians are using to their own ends - I personally do not think it would have been any worse without partition, may have been much better ... but both our viewpoints are conjecture - so who knows what might have been aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 131 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.238.50 Rating: N/A |
Its pretty simple andi. Just imagine the difficulties in ruling a country as big as India + Pakistan + Bangladesh with two major religions. Ippudunna 20% muslim population ki enni communal clashes avuthayi India lo. Inka 50% population ki oohinchukondi. Autonomy anedi oka level varake ivvochu, rest of the governance should be done by the center. Governance lo okka chinna thappu jarigina, daaniki political + religion color vasthundi.
Yes, exactly. If you think your limb is gonna kill you, its better to live as an amuptee than to die. Mana political and governing efficiency entho manaki telusu. Fair governance anedi oka myth India lo. Injustice ki religious discrimination add avuthe ika aa country paristhithi ento alochinchandi.
Stability. I dont foresee India divided in to seperate countries in near future. Partition was an inevitability. Glad it happened in 1947 rather than now.
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| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4846 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Totally agree with this And we have had this discussion on uniform civil code many times before - I do not believe any political party has the gumption to implement it But madrasas ban cheste , anni religious education outfits that teach religious scripture -ban cheyyali kada - how far is that feasible ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Shawshank Side Hero Username: Shawshank Post Number: 4032 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 173.95.184.250 Rating: N/A |
The agnipariksha, if you call it that way, would be to embrace modern education and practices, being flexible in terms of religious laws, trying to move away from ghetto-isation. Then contributing to the cause of a great Indian nation rather than a non-existent "Ummah". Not just in this country, in any part of the world, this process works the same way. You have to join the mainstream society to enjoy the lifestyle of the mainstream. Ekam Sat, Viprah Bahuda Vadhanti - Rig Veda | ||
| Shawshank Side Hero Username: Shawshank Post Number: 4031 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 173.95.184.250 Rating: N/A |
but then Pak had different regions, Sindh, Punjab, Baluch etc etc .. I was referring to that. Power in Pak is limited to Islamabad, Punjab and parts of Sindh. But there is almost 70% of country outside this.  Ekam Sat, Viprah Bahuda Vadhanti - Rig Veda | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4845 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Thanks. Never thought I would hear that acknowledgement from you- I was wrong
Is this not unfair though ? What is the agnipariksha you want them to go through to prove their loyalty above and beyond what other religions have to do ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Simply_rdb Comedian Username: Simply_rdb Post Number: 1556 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 123.237.203.98 Rating: N/A |
when they are separated and have separate muslim land[all for themselves] why is it necessary for then to have federal structure in place,its like having one big state for them kada | ||
| Shawshank Side Hero Username: Shawshank Post Number: 4030 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 173.95.184.250 Rating: N/A |
Btw .. this imagination is 100% wrong. It would have been a great country certainly had it been 'rightly' handled. Ekam Sat, Viprah Bahuda Vadhanti - Rig Veda | ||
| Shawshank Side Hero Username: Shawshank Post Number: 4029 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 173.95.184.250 Rating: N/A |
Ofcourse I did. I agree with him 101%. Let me tell make myself clear here. Politics aside, Muslims are as much part of India as are Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Christians and atheists. That much everyone agrees. But if you listen to the opinion of Jaswant clearly, he said, for muslims wanting to have a country on religious lines, there is already a Pak in existance. You cannot/should not expect one more Pak in India. But the problem with Muslims in India is, most of them expect special privileges in India, which is what the right-wingers are opposed to. You should not pamper certain people in the society just because they are a minority per religion. Let us have an equal playground. Let us get rid of those laws of British, which aimed at dividing the Hindus-Minorities of the country. No special laws/treatment for minorities. Yes, there is certainly pain in Indian Muslims. But before they expect dividends for living in India, they also should have to think straight and join the mainstream politically and culturally. You would be surprised to know and read what are the objectives of Indian Muslim political parties like Majlis (MIM), Indian Muslim league and organizations like SIMI. If you believe in parties that dictate that India is Muslim land and it is their right to rule this land, then please do not expect Muslims to be treated equally in India. First, swear on India, then expect the fruits you deserve. Hope I am clear. Ekam Sat, Viprah Bahuda Vadhanti - Rig Veda | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4844 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
I am not sure why you think the majority status in the states that they were in majority would cause instability of the country - elaborate please...
Idi asalu ardham kaledu - future lo neglect cheste problem avutundi ani munde limbs amputate chesama ?
What did it gain the country in your view ? I am just trying to understand your view point Malli gussa avutunnanu anukokandi aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Simply_rdb Comedian Username: Simply_rdb Post Number: 1555 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 123.237.203.98 Rating: N/A |
friday soosa malla saturday soosa rachaa lepadau  kakapote kontha mandi second half lo walk out kooda sesar allakemi ardham kaledu ra bhai ani kasesu tala scratching sesi malla back to film | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 129 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.238.50 Rating: N/A |
Federalism concept by it self is a fair option. But during independence that might not have been a good choice. Jinnah wanted at least one third electoral representation for muslims in all of the proposed provinces and he also wanted the majority status for muslims in punjab, sindh and NorthWestern provinces. This could have caused severe instability in the united country. Ippude enni seperatist movements unnayi in North eastern states of assam, manipur etc because of the GoVT apathy. Ika muslims vishayamlo alaa jarigithe they dont compromise for anything less than a seperate country. I personally think separation was a good idea but they should have done it properly. Absolute chaos existed during that time because of the ego clashes between Jinnah and Nehru. Of course Nehru's rejection of federalism was not because of the above points. He was power hungry and wanted to win over Jinnah. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4843 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
I agree - ayite chudaali cinema aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4842 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
If you can get the balance right, then yes, it can be very successful... W.R.T Jeswant Singh and Jinnah - I am surprised,nay shocked that you agree with Jeswant's description of the trauma of Indian Muslims Video chusara ?aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Basky_indya Hero Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 16879 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 75.185.64.101 Rating: |
india diversity needs a strong central. federal chesthe, unequal balance comes. tamilnadu lo hindi ban chesi dobbutharu... mumbai ninchi bhayyas ni tarimestharu appudu.. Gigantic Techno fuctional Mega Blockbuster Magnum Opus BOMMA | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 15839 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 76.126.113.172 Rating: N/A |
america type annattu...each state with its own laws...aa tyfe...mama between kaminey choosava?? ninna night ella....the best director in india hands down vishal kurrod... | ||
| Basky_indya Hero Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 16878 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 75.185.64.101 Rating: N/A |
nehru did was a blessing in disguise . imagine fakis within india... 50% alle undevollu.. Gigantic Techno fuctional Mega Blockbuster Magnum Opus BOMMA | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4841 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Thanks found it aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Shawshank Side Hero Username: Shawshank Post Number: 4028 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 173.95.184.250 Rating: N/A |
In my view, that actually takes down the call for separatism. Autonomy is dangerous for the unity of the country, but de-centralisation and equal concentration of power with Center-State would be a great balancing act. Ekam Sat, Viprah Bahuda Vadhanti - Rig Veda | ||
| Shawshank Side Hero Username: Shawshank Post Number: 4027 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 173.95.184.250 Rating: N/A |
malli modalu .. Advani Jinnah ni pogidadu .. ippudu Jaswant Jinnah ni pogidadu ani .. mana media asale kothi .. daniki ilanti vakreekariche chance dorikithe .. overtime work chesi maree ashta vankaralu tippi maree gabbu leputaru Ishan, Federalism, Centralisation concept 100% correct meeru cheppindi .. kakapothe irony abt Jinnah-Pak is .. though they differed with Nehru abt centralisation and got their piece of cake(land), they do not have any federal structure in place ! Ika India lo it will be really great if federalism is the way forward from now atleast! Start with Judicial reforms, police reforms and de-centralize the existing mess. Ekam Sat, Viprah Bahuda Vadhanti - Rig Veda | ||
| Simply_rdb Comedian Username: Simply_rdb Post Number: 1553 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 123.237.203.98 Rating: N/A |
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| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4839 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Totally agree with this - states need more autonomy than they have today The risk is that calls for separatism may escalate ..aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Simply_rdb Comedian Username: Simply_rdb Post Number: 1552 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 123.237.203.98 Rating: N/A |
 googling sesina le ayithe jinnah was right annamata ofcourse many others with in congress also were of the same view kani nehru did not like it and we had partition of india sadly | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4838 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Online link unda ?
I tend to agree But politicians need a bogeyman to blame... If they do not paint someone as the demon, how will they come out smelling like angels aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Ishan Junior Artist Username: Ishan Post Number: 126 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.238.50 Rating: |
Federalism is the equal division of power between center and states. Centralization is where most of the powers are with the center. For India federalism makes more sense than centralization because of such a huge diversity. | ||
| Voldemort Junior Artist Username: Voldemort Post Number: 209 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 65.184.24.119 Rating: |
Partially true it was that old crook for his love towards womanizer made india into 3 | ||
| Simply_rdb Comedian Username: Simply_rdb Post Number: 1550 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 123.237.203.98 Rating: N/A |
ippudu devil's advocate with jeswant singh vachindi andula nehru centralization ani jinnah federalism ani pattu patta batte partition ayyindi ani seppad lekunte united india undenu anta andula nehru view ne tappu ani cheppad later nehru himself realized it ani seppad aa rendintiki difference endi final conclusion jinnah not responsible for partition don't make demon out of him if he is then nehru equally responsible |
