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     Telugu_times Hero Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 14143 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 76.240.222.129 Rating: N/A |
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| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4781 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Here's the expectation mismatch I see in your thinking with the way I understand it... Spirituality is not a way to make external things happen.. it is essentially an internal psychological exercise that changes the way we perceive and react to things..it is about developing the internal strength to deal with the external stresses  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4780 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
True, there has to be a trigger to start the introspection and this usually happens the first time we go against a prescribed norm,face a conflict between the moral edict and our desires, or when we are faced with a situation where despite following all the proper code of conduct , things do not go our way.Sometimes the questioning is triggered by someone else questioning your belief as well
You are right , it is arrogance born out of ignorance that makes us think that what we believe is the only perfect belief system - the root of fanaticism. You can only respect another's belief that conflicts with your own , if you accept the fact that your belief and his belief are both based on faith and have an equal chance of being wrong or right
My comment on tolerance was not aimed at your reactions to others behaving badly. I only meant questioning belief systems needs to happen with tolerance. Yeah , some events in life make us question our own actions in retrospect.. but this is another trigger to analyze and understand why we act the way we do.. and our spritual belief systems influence both our actions and how we deal with the results of our actions. So any dissonance in our values, desires, actions or results is the checkpoint to re-assess all these aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Apsrtc Side Hero Username: Apsrtc Post Number: 2899 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 76.104.45.54 Rating: N/A |
ee post miss ayyanu.  YSR Zindabaad! www.ysr2009.com | ||
| Jkm Side Hero Username: Jkm Post Number: 3537 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.99.241.217 Rating: N/A |
 అందమయిన జీవితము. అందమయిన ప్రపంచం. కొత్త బంగారు లొకము మాకు కావాలి సొంతము. | ||
| Apsrtc Side Hero Username: Apsrtc Post Number: 2898 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 76.104.45.54 Rating: N/A |
No one defines a standard as such. As a person, if you come across a situation or belief system more than once and you had to prove your belief system and judge through it due to others belief system questioned or forced us to some belief.. we try to find the standard to comfort ourselves and if necessary one might change the belief system to keep up standard. No questions on that. As being humans, we forgive and show humility at all other life forms as much as possible. But in this materialistic society sometimes we do not have time or opportunity to judge those beliefs and act up on it peacefully. As we practice tolerance we ignore continue it and the opposite person's lack of restraint and disrespect towards us with no intention to listen to or accept to the status quo with the channel we currently engaged and it is distracting us, what is the best way to mitigate the situation? We either give up or wait for an opportunity to resolve it or to completely forgive the person and move on. We do the latter many times and in least possible situation we conclude our own justification to the situation with our direct actions. Sometimes I also feel that this spirituality do not provide results in this society easily and we must be very much act up to the tunes and move on in our life to succeed in that environment. This is true at many professional work places since you don't have time to judge and go through this process and if you lag, someone lead you and you end up being loser in materialistic terms. This is true since the people you work and you deal with never met in real life and you have to make real time decisions. As world is getting more more virtual in work environment, it is really critical to act up quickly and effectively for successful engagement.
Fine. I think I should have been clearer in my first post. I use tolerance and try to respect the people as much as possible and try our best to keep one's pride and belief intact. But in some extreme situations when that mutual respect and harmony missed, my thought process concludes that we must not leave this situation to question up other's beliefs or teach a lesson and eventually they just end up into actions with no regret. Out of 1 in 100 such incidents may popup again in life and I think through it again. This is where I am trying to think though myself of my past actions and other events associated with the situation and persons we go through and retrospect the spiritual belief system.
Agreed. I am not trying out for a prepared standard to just cut and paste it my thought process in to it. I am trying to learn from others whom we prejudiced as more sensible. :P YSR Zindabaad! www.ysr2009.com | ||
| Apsrtc Side Hero Username: Apsrtc Post Number: 2897 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 76.104.45.54 Rating: N/A |
Thanks pinni for responding 
Exactly. I am constantly going through questioning and many times I learned a lot throughout. However based on circumstances it is not possible to apply this methodology to some and in this situation I am trying to understand more on that aspect.
Hmm... the process of introspection starts when we feel it is necessary to us and we see an impact on us. During this process if our thought process aligned with that piece of belief or action, we feel stronger in accepting and practicing it. Only when it is questionable we go through more scrutiny and try to find more answers. If you never come across a situation your ideology is never questioned even though it is not correct in other's perspective for so long. It gives an impression that rest of the world is wrong and it may become possessive if we believe in it 100% without any second thought for some time until we try to respect other's belief and try to understand it before judging it.
Correct. We do follow this principle all along. But as not everyone is perfect at everything we deviate from the path. YSR Zindabaad! www.ysr2009.com | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Side Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 5957 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.19.86.81 Rating: N/A |
 Ekkado munigi ikkada tela | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4779 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Thanks IBDB rojulu gurtochayi ratri aa post type chestunte ... Vivek, Nisarga, Unorthodox, Uno, Sindhooram, IBV, andaru active ga unnappudu manchi heavy duty philosophy discussions undevi aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Simhadri Side Hero Username: Simhadri Post Number: 4312 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 74.232.109.248 Rating: N/A |
Ntr_Fan - pandu Simhadri - Laddu | ||
| Basky_indya Hero Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 16497 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 65.24.56.148 Rating: N/A |
I said for "LIVING" TODAY is the day. this time is the best. no time can be better than this. u will think , if u get a gc u will be happy, but on actual day, u will be hoping u will be happy if u get a bonus of 10k and so on this goes on.... so enjoy the time now, be happy now (which is the only time under ur control) Gigantic Techno fuctional Mega Blockbuster Magnum Opus BOMMA | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4777 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Planning for tomorrow is not wrong.But your activity today should give you joy- you need to go to sleep feeling you have had a good day - then you will have the lowest risk of regrets later in life ... Chese pani lo satisfaction anandam lekunda 10 years struggle ayyaka what is the guarantee that the results will meet your expectations ? Aage bhi jaane na tu Peeche bhi jaane na tu Jo bhi hai bas yahi ik pal hai One of my favorite songs from childhood ... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Annavaram Comedian Username: Annavaram Post Number: 1183 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.15.86 Rating: N/A |
deep gaa kottinattu unnaaru  your earlier post, very nicely written | ||
| Wrathchild Side Hero Username: Wrathchild Post Number: 6619 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 69.136.169.198 Rating: N/A |
So is planning for tomorrow wrong? should we utilise this time only to do this days activitiy? | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4775 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Well said.. Yesterday is but a dream, Tommorrow is only a vision But today well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Basky_indya Hero Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 16488 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 65.24.56.148 Rating: N/A |
my principle is ssy principle. TODAY-THIS TIME is the BEST Gigantic Techno fuctional Mega Blockbuster Magnum Opus BOMMA | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4774 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
To my mind, if people cannot talk calmly and with tolerance, about the various viewpoints on spiritual questions, then they negate the very essence of spirituality Ofcourse, there will be passionate objections to this "progressive" thinking as well  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Hero Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 11482 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.90.253.159 Rating: N/A |
You must be the change you wish to see in the world  | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 4773 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: |
I will tell you what I have gathered from my life... If you do not question your thoughts how will your thoughts evolve? What you have at the age of 10-11 are thoughts and principles that someone taught you..it is someone else's belief system...It is like someone handed you a bag of multicolored stones and said they were priceless gems...You do not even know the value or lack there of till you put it thru evaluation. It is only by introspecting and examining that you determine what is valuable to you , what appeals to you, what you find worth keeping and what you discard. It is thru this process of questioning that you make that bundle of beliefs "your own" treasure that you polished into brilliance. Only after this process, comes the true conviction in your belief system It is when you reach this point that you understand your beliefs well enough to respect everyone else's , true tolerance sets in, you do not feel the need to diminish someone else's belief system to justify your own , or to prove your belief to be superior to another's
Have you questioned why it should be wrong ? Who defined that standard if there is indeed one standard - they were humans too who made some edicts based on what they saw as the needs of the society at large The ability to think and create is what distinguishes humans from other life forms .. If we do not use this faculty to think , question , innovate and blindly follow the herd or someone else's instructions then what is the use of such abilities ? So my opinion - question away - but do it with tolerance and without disrespecting people who do/do not agree with your beliefs and come to your own conclusions based on what you discover... Spiritual progress is a very personal journey ..chart your own path aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Apsrtc Side Hero Username: Apsrtc Post Number: 2886 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 76.104.45.54 Rating: N/A |
As everyone coming on many spiritual aspects I am going through a dilemma within myself. My way of looking at good citizen or god fearing person is: Be respectful to people whom you trust and believe.. Be truthful and honest in every moment in life to yourself. Have faith in God and pray God for peace and happiness in my life. Express gratitude and humility and respect others beliefs and views to people who are not associated with us.. but we interact everyday in many parts of the life. When it comes to people who lie to us .. who treat us badly or who hurt us through their actions or words or cause damage to us directly or indirectly of any form.. I express no sympathy or express anger and in some cases we try resort to some kind of action to control anger or satisfy ego or sometimes we hurt or abuse or hurt them in return with no hard feelings and we don't even feel bad sometimes that we did such thing to someone directly or indirectly. I feel that such incident is perfectly fine due to circumstances. However sometimes other's question me on my belief and my actions that it is not good and it is not a way to attain godliness in my life. They point out that my actions will have follow me and Karma may come back and haunt me and its result in my destiny and my fate changed by my past actions. I strongly feel that it is absurd. However I believe in Karma principle.. but I strongly believe that those actions we did in return to such events is completely acceptable due to that such situation. Now my question.. is? How far this kind of questioning of one's beliefs is true? Shouldn't it be wrong to question one's Karma principle? What is the ultimate standard on this aspect? YSR Zindabaad! www.ysr2009.com |
