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http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/
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ayya law intrepretation matram common sense ki vadilesi..umpires ni nilabetteru.....


wicket keepers ate standing close behind even for some seam bowlers these days.......and runs and taken for the silliest of attempst to play a shot.....

so the conclusion about...whether batsman...is out of crease for run or not anedhi.....still debatable....
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ikkada sadukondi cricket law..daily oka thaadu eyoddu

http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/






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ikkada sadukondi cricket law..daily oka thaadu eyoddu

http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/
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Film_fan:

if batsman by that time....is out of crease trying to play heave....what then?


u can get out...beamer is legal but unplayable like wide IMO...
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Idle_yzag:

what happens if he doesnt attempt for Run? Is he still runout?


umpire has the say...but while playing the shot if u are out of crease...fielder can still get u run out ...for ex- close in fielders flick ball on to stumps...
so on that basis...fielder chethiki ball velthay u got to be in crease...but indaaka nuvvu seppinattu keeper throwing ball to fielder to break stumps kee umpires will object...u can steal a bye off a no ball and get run out...etla soosina u cannot get stumped...only run out
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>>sodhi lo doubts endhi ra...nee banthulu...


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Runout and stumpout YES for noball. Stumpout YES for wide.
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Idle_yzag:

I believe that depends on the pace of the ball not fast bowler or spin bowler, a pace bowler can bowl slower one or spin bowler can bowl faster one, matter is how batsman gets it anukunta




emo annai...nakunna experience tho seppa adi..neekedanna link dorikithe pettu ikkada ICC rules di..confusing ga undi..
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ICC rules link telvad..kaani when I did umpiring in Midwest league..akkada chepparu vallu..appatlo vallu print outs teesi icharu ICC Rules ..


I believe that depends on the pace of the ball not fast bowler or spin bowler, a pace bowler can bowl slower one or spin bowler can bowl faster one, matter is how batsman gets it anukunta
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emi levu annai..Ind vodipoyindi..fully depressed..


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marade..spin veru pace veru..No ball rules diff for spin and pace..
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dont think so......
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Idle_yzag:

link plzz




ICC rules link telvad..kaani when I did umpiring in Midwest league..akkada chepparu vallu..appatlo vallu print outs teesi icharu ICC Rules ..
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Simhadri:

marade..spin veru pace veru..No ball rules diff for spin and pace.




link plzz
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tammud...yela unnav. yenti kaburs..?



emi levu annai..Ind vodipoyindi..fully depressed..
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Film_fan:

its more of a common sense thing these days by umpries.....

offspinners do loose control of ball sometimes and end up bowling a beamer.....

if batsman by that time....is out of crease trying to play heave....what then?




leg umpire daya..
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tammud...yela unnav. yenti kaburs..?
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Idle_yzag:

spin yenti pace yenti? waist height with no-bump is No-ball




marade..spin veru pace veru..No ball rules diff for spin and pace..
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Simhadri:

spin lo waist height is not a No ball..Shoulder height ayithene No ball spin bowling ki...FYI


spin yenti pace yenti? waist height with no-bump is No-ball
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Idle_yzag:

Can batsman be runout for No-ball even though he dont attempt for Run, if a wicketkeeper gets ball from Fielder?


technically yes..but ittantivi pilla chestatlu yavar seyaru..cricket lo unwritten rules chala untayi this is one of them
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spin lo waist height is not a No ball..Shoulder height ayithene No ball spin bowling ki...FYI
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its more of a common sense thing these days by umpries.....

offspinners do loose control of ball sometimes and end up bowling a beamer.....

if batsman by that time....is out of crease trying to play heave....what then?
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Idle_yzag:

Can batsman be runout for No-ball even though he dont attempt for Run, if a wicketkeeper gets ball from Fielder?




Yes..Fielder deggaraiki ball poyindante keeper miss chesinatte .. vadu run ki attempt cheyakapoyina out of crease unte OUT anatte,.,.
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Bhikhu:

Not out..stumped on a wide ball is out though



same...answer naadi kooda. wide ki bendulkar oka 20 times stump ayi untaadu.

no ball ki run out untadi (oka vela run teestey).
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Humpty_dumpty:

hypothetical situation...wk collects no ball...throws ball to fielder ( now it has changed hands) ball is still in play, u can attempt run as u wud do for overthrows...appudu u can still get run out by fielder or keeper.


what happens if he doesnt attempt for Run? Is he still runout?
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Idle_yzag:

Can batsman be runout for No-ball even though he dont attempt for Run, if a wicketkeeper gets ball from Fielder?




if a wicketkeeper gets ball from Fielder, then it is a runout and not a stump
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ikkada stump ane question ey ledhu ..
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enduku ledhu..keeper standing close...spinner bowling a beamer.....by slip of hand....and batsman coming forward with a premedidated shot....
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Film_fan:

what about waist high no ball.?


Ya that is an exception..basic ga a nobe give the batsman an opportunity to face the ball play it..andukune if a batsman is dismissed of a no ball it is not out..a wide in most cases does not give the batman a chance to play the ball..he can choose not to play the ball.. andukune stumped on a wide ball is out...1996 WC lo mark waugh gootle sachin ni wide mida stump seyinchad
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Film_fan:

ok....what about waist high no ball.?




spin lo waist height is not a No ball..Shoulder height ayithene No ball spin bowling ki...FYI
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Bhikhu:

A no ball is called immediatly after the bowler delivers..anything after a nobe is called is void for the bowler..a wide is not called until it passes to the keeper




oho, coming back to No-Ball,

Can batsman be runout for No-ball even though he dont attempt for Run, if a wicketkeeper gets ball from Fielder?
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Idle_yzag:

But how anyone can say whether he attempts run or not


on field umpire determines whether he is attempting a run or not. last week WI batsmen was not playing a shot ( he withdrew bat) and attempted to run as ball deflected off pad...umpire turned it down.


Idle_yzag:

2. Inko fielder ki ball ichii... wicketkeeper theskuni stump chesthe Run-out aa?


no u can only get run out if the ball is in keeper's hand and u r attempting a run.
hypothetical situation...wk collects no ball...throws ball to fielder ( now it has changed hands) ball is still in play, u can attempt run as u wud do for overthrows...appudu u can still get run out by fielder or keeper.

u can get stumped off a wide ball as it still a legal delivery( bowled within crease) it is just unreachable anthay...no ball is illegal
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Film_fan:

ok....what about waist high no ball.?




ikkada stump ane question ey ledhu ..
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A no ball is called immediatly after the bowler delivers..anything after a nobe is called is void for the bowler..a wide is not called until it passes to the keeper
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ok....what about waist high no ball.?
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any reason annai? whats so different?


A no ball is called immediatly after the bowler delivers..anything after a nobe is called is void for the bowler..a wide is not called until it passes to the keeper
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Idle_yzag:

any reason annai? whats so different?




PUT is put
HUT is hut

endukante emi chepthaam .. rules alaa edichaai ..
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Idle_yzag:

1. But how anyone can say whether he attempts run or not




Umpire ki telisi potundhi .. Hit kottadaaniki mundhuku velthe stump .. run thiyyataaniki ayithe RUNOUT


Idle_yzag:

2. Inko fielder ki ball ichii... wicketkeeper theskuni stump chesthe Run-out aa?




idhi asalu stump ey kaadhu .. RUNOUT
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Bhikhu:

Not out..stumped on a wide ball is out though


any reason annai? whats so different?
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Law says this

3. Not out Stumped
(a) If the striker is not out Stumped, he is liable to be out Run out if the conditions of Law 38 (Run out) apply, except as set out in (b) below.

(b) The striker shall not be out Run out if he is out of his ground, not attempting a run, and his wicket is fairly put down by the wicket-keeper without the intervention of another member of the fielding side, if No ball has been called.
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1. But how anyone can say whether he attempts run or not
2. Inko fielder ki ball ichii... wicketkeeper theskuni stump chesthe Run-out aa?
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Not out..stumped on a wide ball is out though
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not out..if he is trying to hit the ball by coming out of the crease..not out..ala kakunda...keeper chetilo ball unna run kosam try cheste OUT..
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http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=2008112210521 4AAQOYCS
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out....

i think it counts as runout...which is possible on a no-ball.....

again...this no-ball should be lin crossing no-ball i think....not the waist high one.....dont know what happnes then....


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edle ga...kriket lo edho peekuthunnattlu kaburlu chepthaav...sodhi lo doubts endhi ra...nee banthulu...
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simple logic ..

out ayithe wicket bowler ki veltundhi .. so noball means not out
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yes
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no
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Idly....umpiring entrance emanna frepare avuthunnava???...sodhilo doubts
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out aa out kada?
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