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Kalikaalam
Comedian Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 1765 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 72.78.244.128
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 10:54 am: |
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//logikless topic idhi// I totally agree.. |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 4478 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 06:51 pm: |
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Elcaminocapastrino:But this year u r the bext actor cause u portrayed gandhi in a meticulous manner compared to the other dude who had to be content with a corss dressing character which had less appeal cause he was not chosen to play gandhi...
I guess you are talking about Kingsley and Hoffman ? Agree that it is skewed - but like I said when a movie as a whole connects , everything within it seems a lot better Very rarely you find best actress/ actor nominations for movies that do not make the initial cut
Jambalahaart_raja:The best is to allow each one of them to come up with their own stuff, and judge how well they could portray what they wished to.
Anand_n:Any kind of relative ranking happens on how well an idea is executed, is it effectively communicated to the audience...
Think we are saying the same thing But Food channel is like OT's example - giving an essay topic and asking them to present it - it may not be your natural genre putting you at a disadvantage  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 14998 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 12.187.230.130
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 05:49 pm: |
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Onlytruth:Anthe gaani andaru "aavu meedha vyaasam" raayandi, evadu baaga aaavu meedha vyaasam raasthe vaadu winner analemu ga...
Elcaminocapastrino: I have regarding Judging creative personalitlies esp the performers in the foreground on cinema screen
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Onlytruth
Legend Username: Onlytruth
Post Number: 45051 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 193.200.150.82
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 05:30 pm: |
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Elcaminocapastrino:Art cannot be judged like dat....its about imagination.....creation...
true...anduke daaniki predefined boundaries set cheyyalevu pre-defined topic, role, character set chesi competition pedithe adhi 100 metres race laaga mechanical one avutundhi http://andhrabhoomi.net/weakpoint.html |
   
Onlytruth
Legend Username: Onlytruth
Post Number: 45050 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 193.200.150.82
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 05:28 pm: |
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Best Story competition jarugutundhi Okaru middle class family based story raasthadu Okadu philosophy based story raasthadu Okadu urbane backdrop story raasthadu Okadu demudu,deyyaalu edho raasthaadu but best story teller ani Okkate anipisthundhi "majority of the judges" ki... it will be the winner Anthe gaani andaru "aavu meedha vyaasam" raayandi, evadu baaga aaavu meedha vyaasam raasthe vaadu winner analemu ga... ilaa ennainaa examples cheppocchu......logikless topic idhi http://andhrabhoomi.net/weakpoint.html |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 14997 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 199.230.203.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 05:28 pm: |
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Onlytruth:
cricket catches r judged based on the difficulty.... Art cannot be judged like dat....its about imagination.....creation... If it is about difficulty then everyone will chose roles where the role demands they have to lose 100 pounds.....or put 100 pounds n parade on the screen n they awards... |
   
Onlytruth
Legend Username: Onlytruth
Post Number: 45049 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 193.200.150.82
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 05:20 pm: |
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Elcaminocapastrino:How can u rate his perfromance in dat role to someone else performing in a complete different ambience.... I dont think u can really compare n judge unless u have 5 actors portraying the same role....I donno how anyone can judge otherwise....
Cricket lo Best catches contest (thru senior cricketers or analysts panel or SMS or WEB poll ) jarugutundhi Top 5 contenders are : diving slip catch, running catch @ longon , lightening speed catch @ Silly mid on , 180 degrees body position @ gully so on.... how would u judge only one catch, one fielder ?? all catches ni oke position lo oke speed lo oke direction lo vachinappudu ye fielder best ga catch chesaado matrame chudagalam ante elaa ? ye position lo difficulties aa position lo untaayi....overall ga oka impression : idhi best catch ani "most of the observors" ki anipisthundhi that will be the best catch winner http://andhrabhoomi.net/weakpoint.html |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 14996 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 199.230.203.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 05:20 pm: |
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Atleast when it comes to movie...Iam not going to buy the concept of appeal....if its appeal dats wat matters then we dont have so many stars and so less actors and srk deserves each n every award he was bestowed with.... Now an actor is not writing the script....he is not creating the character....his character is already there on paper...he just has to enact it with believability n naturality....Now he has his own interpretation of the character and he definitely adds his touch to it...But did he create it just out of no where...No...he already has a channel provided by the writer...so he uses it.... But appeal on other hand can be deceptive....I dont think its all about appeal...the appeal for johnny depp in the pirate movie is more than wat a daniel day lewis got for any of his oscar winning roles....its more than that...they r serious people there judging these performers pittin them against each other in a very unexplainable manner.... If its about celebration let them just give life time achievement awards and celebrate their careers...But this year u r the bext actor cause u portrayed gandhi in a meticulous manner compared to the other dude who had to be content with a corss dressing character which had less appeal cause he was not chosen to play gandhi...antey somehow its not digesting.... |
   
Vivekanandji
Junior Artist Username: Vivekanandji
Post Number: 112 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 67.159.45.24
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 05:09 pm: |
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Superstar Padmabushan Krishna ki okka award koodaa raaledhu. Thokkalo awards ki inka viluva emuntadhi. Awards mukhyam Rewards mukhyam ani aadhikavi srisri eenaado chepparu. Andharuu Baagundaali. |
   
Jambalahaart_raja
Comedian Username: Jambalahaart_raja
Post Number: 1259 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 206.28.153.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 05:08 pm: |
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Anand_n:5 directors will be executed differently, same role enacted by 5 different actors differently..
This is certainly a good point. Though the directors and the actors may repeat the same idea with their individual performances, the challenge increases with each one's portrayal to effectively communicate with the audiences. And then there is this economics funda of "Diminishing Utility". Repeating the same stuff again and again loses it's value. So the fifth contenders automatically lose their chances completely. The best is to allow each one of them to come up with their own stuff, and judge how well they could portray what they wished to. To better understand this, check out the Food channel. All the aspiring chefs prepare the same course within the stipulated time but usually the one with the best garnishing/presentation or ease of preparation stands the winner. |
   
Jalsa
Side Hero Username: Jalsa
Post Number: 4754 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.53.110.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 05:08 pm: |
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Elca thammud, Different actors have a different way of expressing an emotion. I agree with Anand ji, oka role lo chesina acting how well it connects with the viewers anedhi most imp. |
   
Jambalahaart_raja
Comedian Username: Jambalahaart_raja
Post Number: 1258 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 206.28.153.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 05:01 pm: |
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Bunty717:same point meeda Aamir Khan aligi..
Indian awards anni biased ani cheppi Aamir actually nirasana vyaktham chesthunnadu. Strong tiff unna rojullo line gaa SRK ki awards ichhukuntu pothey competitor ki kaaladaa?? |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 4476 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 05:00 pm: |
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JH/Elca, Agreed - genesis of a creative concept cannot be graded- but execution can be Any kind of relative ranking happens on how well an idea is executed, is it effectively communicated to the audience...That is the objectivity part of it... The same concept given to 5 directors will be executed differently, same role enacted by 5 different actors differently.. but how well the execution connects to the viewer is key Movie making is a creative art of story telling - the purpose is communication of the idea and how well that communication is happening can be graded I think Which is why , you see one or two movies sweep the awards in most categories... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Bunty717
Junior Artist Username: Bunty717
Post Number: 818 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 161.185.151.155
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 04:54 pm: |
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Elcaminocapastrino:
same point meeda Aamir Khan aligi.. Ind awards functin ki ravadam manesedu |
   
Jambalahaart_raja
Comedian Username: Jambalahaart_raja
Post Number: 1257 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 206.28.153.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 04:44 pm: |
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A very valid outlook at this fanciful award distributions and the process of judgements. Your main concern, simply put, is to level the ground for competition. 3 lac aspirants give the answers to the exact same question paper and there is a state ranker in Eamcet. There should be something similar, an exact situation to which the top 5 contenders must compete in order to be judged as the best. Well, art is something at which there is no leveling. Sports/competitive exams/ anything for that matter is pure display of wit/presence of mind/situational decisioning. Art on the other hand isn't situational at all. It is dreamt/planned and then it is portrayed and the appeal of the magnificience of the portrayal is the one that is judged. The appeal is what finally matters. Some stars like Tom Hanks, Denzel Washington or even Russell Crowe, manage to earn it pretty fast/early and bank on it for the rest of their lives. Stars like Brad Pitt, Sean Penn take their due time, not that they were unworthy all the while, it's just that they need to earn that extra inch of an appeal on the crowds. In the end, it's just a celebration. No one's a winner or a loser in art. It is always the human-mind's genius at work and there's no calibrating/judging to it's appeal. |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 14995 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 199.230.203.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 04:10 pm: |
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Sometimes I get confused with the whole process...But sometimes I go with the flow and hail the winners.... But when Iam confused these are the quecchins I have regarding Judging creative personalitlies esp the performers in the foreground on cinema screen....Now lets take oscars.... The most celebrated awards and atleast 70% of time stick to true art than campaigning.... Now u get five actors in the final consideration for best actor glory and of which one actor gets the Nod.... So u have 5 different performances in 5 different roles and may be in 5 diff movies.... Now one of them will have a meaty role than the other...and definitely the appeal to that role will be more...people go gaga over him...so does the critics n judges...so he has the edge...definitely.... But how can anyone judge him as the best actor unless they know how the remaining 4 people in the cateogory would have perfromed the same role???How can u rate his perfromance in dat role to someone else performing in a complete different ambience.... I dont think u can really compare n judge unless u have 5 actors portraying the same role....I donno how anyone can judge otherwise.... |