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Mental_sachinodu:

What did you mean by this?




what ever gatha says is endorsed positively by sopathi is the meaning !
Ekam Sat, Viprah Bahuda Vadhanti - Rig Veda :-)
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https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/lan/e n/atlas.html


I think this is about as scientific as we can get with today's data on timing civilization, settlements and I would think languages...

Check out the timeline of Haplogroups M*, M174, M130 and M69..

M*, the first haplogroup to break from African and travel to India took the middle Indian path..then you have the branches going northward from the Indus Valley area in 3 directions. M* is prevalent in Southern parts of pakistan and northwest India - not found much outside the Indus Valley area...The language of the Indus Valley civilization would be the oldest language in India then.If the guys who finally acknowledged the symbols in Indus valley to be a language script, can find enough patterns to correlate the grammar to any known language, say sanskrit - that should settle the issue :-)

M174 and M160 did not touch the Indo-gangetic plains , they took the path thru the southern peninsula only - I would think they had a language (proto-dravidian?)

If Sanskrit was not inherent to Indus Valley but was brought in much later thru the M69ers( the Indian Marker) or M9ers..that puts the dravidian languages ahead of Sanskrit :-)

If you have not seen this before, click on the timeline tabs at the top of the map and then on the paths to read the genetic marker history - it is very interesting :-)
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I think the oldest Indian language is long dead and deeply buried in the Dandakaranya...
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Sopathi:

which is correct. what gatha said




What did you mean by this?
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Gatha:

If you say Sanskrit is mother of all Indian languages, then you may have to accept that European laguage is mother of Sanskrit.




Dude you sound like a guy who is hell bent in supporting the western theory of the aryans.......aka claim everything good to themselves. When arya bhatta was writing books on astronomy.......whole of europe was a bunch of hooligans and bandocoots just killing each other and fighting each other.........so zip your trash..................
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Konkini Pracheena Language in whole world.......
PP - Palakollu Potugaadu; VP - Vodipoyina Prasad ; Gobama; Fooley ....inkenni soodalo sitraalu..
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Subzero:

I think tamil is the oldest language in India.




There is no fool proof dating available on any of the languages - oldest written samples of kannada and tamil are from around 200 BC anukunta..

Does not mean the language did not exist way before then - same with Sanskrit - Panini's grammer is usually dated around 450-500 BC but I do not recall reading that there are written samples of sanskrit dating that far back either ...

So this is all conjecture :-) Age of script is different from age of language :-)
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Indian:

Vinataaniki antha ashayamu gaa untundhi, yedho dabba lo rallu yesi sound chesinatlu.



primitive language mama adi. I think tamil is the oldest language in India.
సర్వ దేవాత్మకో హ్యేస తేజస్వీ రశ్మీభావనాః
ఎస దేవాసుర గణమ్ లోకాం పాతి గభాస్తీభీః
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Anand_n:

it is a landlocked city




Oops forgot the river Yamuna :-)
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Mvssr75:

scietific proofs from ASI of Mathura which is contradicting the timings of "Aryan Invasion thoery".



Sopathi:



its not proven that the submerged city is Mathura.




History matladutu geography marchipoyara

Mathura is not submerged, it is a landlocked city in UP , Dwaraka is the city that is submerged off the coast of Gujarat :-)
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Mental_sachinodu:

you are the one saying tamil is the purest native indian language. to which i responded.




which is correct. what gatha said
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Basic and Fortran are the oldest languages..
Baamma, Bendakaya, Balayya eppudu bore kottaru..
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Gatha:

We can agree that all languages are good but we cannot make one language lower or higher than anyone.

Telugu, Tamil, Kannada and Malayalam are have their own weightage, no need to make Sanskrit the root language.

If you say Sanskrit is mother of all Indian languages, then you may have to accept that European laguage is mother of Sanskrit.




where did i ever say sanskrith is the mother of all indian languages. you are the one saying tamil is the purest native indian language. to which i responded.
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Sopathi:




Yes. But these thoeries should be taught as thoeries not "facts" unless proven beoynd doubt. But that is not happenning.
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Mvssr75:

But None of the Aryan Invasion thoeries are proved with any scientific data from 360 degrees perspective.




yes because those events occurred before writing came into existence.

but there are compelling theories to support it.
thats why they are called theories.
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Sopathi:




Agreed. One cannot avoid that. Can any one prove the so called "Persia" existed without folklore documentation ???? Where is the base ?

But None of the Aryan Invasion thoeries are proved with any scientific data from 360 degrees perspective.
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Mvssr75:

History is always a cofluence of "some historical documentation + area folklore + epics + scietific notations"




area folklore and epics cannot be part of history.
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Gatha:


+++++ If you say Sanskrit is mother of all Indian languages, then you may have to accept that European laguage is mother of Sanskrit +++++

This argument is not valid. With any one quote and quote proving that Sanskrit is Europian / persian roots , we cannot conlude so. }
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Sopathi:




Agreed. They call it Methura, based on some scriptures. If so, Nothing can be proved, Neither Jesus Birth, Nor Mohmd's Birth etc. Where is the scietific proof that Aryans have come from Persia ? How can you any one proove that Old Persia existed at all ????? Every Hsitorical even can be questioned.

History is always a cofluence of "some historical documentation + area folklore + epics + scietific notations"
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Gatha:

If you say Sanskrit is mother of all Indian languages, then you may have to accept that European laguage is mother of Sanskrit.




both statements are not even related.
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Mental_sachinodu:

this is absurd. anyone who knows decent tamil knows that it has so many roots related to sanskrit. Most south indian languages today have a sanskrit influence, and tamil is no exception. Toda was a branch of the proto-dravidian languages which split in to tamil and kannada. tamil and telugu never belonged to the same branch of languages. except for the common root of proto dravidian. telugu comes under proto-central-dradvidian, and tamil comes under proto-southern-dravidian, and they existed simultaneously. if you say tamil is oldest, telugu was existing along the same time too. but the truth today's telugu or tamil are not the same as the yester years. they have a lot of sanskrith influence. one more than the other.


We can agree that all languages are good but we cannot make one language lower or higher than anyone.

Telugu, Tamil, Kannada and Malayalam are have their own weightage, no need to make Sanskrit the root language.

If you say Sanskrit is mother of all Indian languages, then you may have to accept that European laguage is mother of Sanskrit.
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Gatha:

Tamil is purely Native Indian.




this is absurd. anyone who knows decent tamil knows that it has so many roots related to sanskrit. Most south indian languages today have a sanskrit influence, and tamil is no exception. Toda was a branch of the proto-dravidian languages which split in to tamil and kannada. tamil and telugu never belonged to the same branch of languages. except for the common root of proto dravidian. telugu comes under proto-central-dradvidian, and tamil comes under proto-southern-dravidian, and they existed simultaneously. if you say tamil is oldest, telugu was existing along the same time too. but the truth today's telugu or tamil are not the same as the yester years. they have a lot of sanskrith influence. one more than the other.
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Gatha, Sopathi okalley kaadha?
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Mvssr75:

I am trying to show scietific proofs from ASI of Mathura which is contradicting the timings of "Aryan Invasion thoery".




its not proven that the submerged city is Mathura.
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*** megasthenes only recorded some folklores ***

Then Let all his work be folklore, not just Krishna.
Only what ever so called "Aryan Invasion Thoery Historians" write (with thier wild imginations, not with complete wholistic scitific data) be taken as truth :lol

After all they have the ability to go back and watch the past and make affirmative statements. BS!!!!
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Sopathi:




Thats why I said. One has to keep thier Beliefs with oneself. FYI - Krishna was also king of Mathura. Just because you don't beelive, better not call them Sollu. Then all what your so called versions can be treated the same.

Who said Ayodhya is 2000 years back. May be what you are talking about is the temple.

I am trying to show scietific proofs from ASI of Mathura which is contradicting the timings of "Aryan Invasion thoery".
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Mvssr75:

Greek Ambassador Magasthenis, is very respectable personality among Historians and many historians teart his work with respect.




megasthenes only recorded some folklores. I dont think he proved that krishna indeed existed and existed 3,500 years back. yeah he must have recorded good things about kings at the time he visited india.

if so how come ayodhya has archeological artifacts which are only 2000 years old.

according to sollu puranas, ramayana occurred before mahabharata.
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Sopathi:




Why do you guys attribute every thing to RSS (I don't care RSS), if some facts seem to be different than what you think.

Greek Ambassador Magasthenis, is very respectable personality among Historians and many historians teart his work with respect.
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The Greek Ambassador Magasthenis has recorded that 138 generations have passed
between Krishna and Chandragupta Maurya




how could he record? is it really valid? or some bussu by RSS historians.
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Lets See the Scietific Data, Not the Writer's Own perception

Mahabharata period ranges from 5000 B.C. to 6000 B.C. and Dwarka fits into
this scenario perfectly.


The first archaeological excavations at Dwaraka were done by the Deccan College,
Pune and the Department of Archaeology, Government of Gujarat, in 1963 under the
direction of H.D. Sankalia.
It revealed artifacts many centuries old.
Marine Archaeology Unit (MAU) jointly by the National Institute of Oceanography and
the Archaeological Survey of India. Under the guidance of Dr. Rao, a great marine
archaeologist, a team consisting of expert underwater explorers, trained diverphotographers
and archaeologists was formed. The technique of geophysical survey
was combined with the use of echo-sounders, mud-penetrators, sub-bottom profilers
and underwater metal detectors. This team carried out 12 marine archaeological
expeditions between 1983 to 1992 and articles and antiquities recovered were sent
to Physical Research Laboratory for dating. By using thermo-luminescence, carbon
dating and other modern scientific techniques, the artifacts were found to belong to
the period between 15th to 18th century B.C. In his great work, The Lost City of
Dwaraka, Dr. Rao has given scientific details of these discoveries and artifacts.
Between 1983 to 1990, the well-fortified township of Dwaraka was discovered,
extending more than half mile from the shore. The township was built in six sectors
along the banks of a river. The foundation of boulders on which the city's walls were
erected proves that the land was reclaimed from the sea. The general layout of the
city of Dwaraka described in ancient texts agrees with that of the submerged city
discovered by the MAU.

The ASI conducted a second round of excavations in 1979 under S.R. Rao's direction.
He found a distinct pottery known as lustrous red ware, which could be more than
3,000 years old
. Based on the results of these excavations, the search for the sunken
city in the Arabian Sea began in 1981. Scientists and archaeologists have continually
worked on the site for 20 years.

The UAW began excavations at Dwaraka again from January 2007. Dr. Tripathi said:
"To study the antiquity of the site in a holistic manner, excavations are being
conducted simultaneously both on land [close to the Dwarakadhish temple] and
undersea so that finds from both the places can be co-related and analyzed
scientifically."
The objective of the excavation is to know the antiquity of the site, based on material
evidence. In the offshore excavation, the ASI's trained underwater archaeologists and
the divers of the Navy searched the sunken structural remains. The finds were
studied and documented.

Thirty copper coins were also found in the excavation area. The structures found on
land belonged to the medieval period
. "We have also found 30 copper coins. We are
cleaning them. After we finish cleaning them, we can give their date," he said.
Dwaraka is a coastal town in Jamnagar district of Gujarat. Traditionally, modern
Dwaraka is identified with Dvaraka or Dvaravati, mentioned in the Mahabharata as
Krishna's city. Dwaraka was a port, and some scholars have identified it with the
island of Barka mentioned in the Periplus of Erythrean Sea. Ancient Dwaraka sank in
sea and hence is an important archaeological site.â My idea is not to go in the
discussion of how the city went under the sea but the fact is that this city is now
approximately under water of the Arabian sea some 135 feet below water. This city
has been mentioned in the Mahabharata and that this city has been found, dated,
and mapped. The probable date of this city is between 9500 to 7500 years before
present which will put it as 7500 to 5500 years BC.

The Greek Ambassador Magasthenis has recorded that 138 generations have passed
between Krishna and Chandragupta Maurya
. Many scholars have taken this
evidence, but taking only 20 years per generation they fixed the date of Krishna as
2760 years before Chandragupta. But this is wrong because the record is not of
ordinary people to take 20 years per generation. In the matter of general public, one
says that when a son is born a new generation starts. But in the case of kings, the
name is included in the list of Royal Dynasty only after his coronation to the throne.
Hence, one cannot allot 20 years to one king. We have to find out the average
per king by calculating on various INDIAn Dynasties. I have considered 60 kings
from various dynasties and calculated the average of each king as 35 years. Here is
a list of some of important kings with the no. of years ruling.
Chandragupta Mourya 330-298 B.C. 32 years.
Bindusar 298-273 B.C. 25 years.
Ashok 273-232 B.C. 41 years.
Pushyamitra Shunga 190-149 B.C. 41 years.
Chandragupta Gupta 308-330 A.D. 22 years.
Samudragupta 330-375 A.D. 45 years.
Vikramaditya 375-414 A.D. 39 years.
Kumargupta 414-455 A.D. 41 years.
Harsha 606-647 A.D. 41 years.
---------
327 years.
The average is 327/9 = 36.3 years.
Multiplying 138 generations by 35 years we get 4830 years before Chandragupta
Mourya. Adding Chandrgupta's date 320 B.C. to 4830 we get 5150 B.C. as the date
of Lord Krishna.
Megasthenis, according to Arian, has written that between Sandrocotus to
Dianisaum 153 generations and 6042 years passed. From this data, we get the
average of 39.5 years per king. From this we can calculate 5451 years for 138
generations. So Krishna must have been around 5771 B.C.
Pliny gives 154 generations and 6451 years between Bacchus and Alexander. This
Bacchus may be the famous Bakasura who was killed by Bhimasena. This period
comes to about 6771 years B.C.
Thus Mahabharata period ranges from 5000 B.C. to 6000 B.C. and Dwarka fits into
this scenario perfectly.
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dravidian languages root took birth in India and are true native indian languages.

rest mee bhayya banana...
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Indo-Aryan derives from an earlier Proto-Indo-Iranian stage, usually identified with the Bronze Age Sintashta and Andronovo culture north of the Caspian Sea.

Their migration to and within Northwestern parts of South Asia is consequently presumed to have taken place in the Middle to Late Bronze Age, contemporary to the Late Harappan phase (ca. 1700 to 1300 BC).

An influx of early Indo-Aryan speakers over the Hindukush (comparable to the Kushan expansion of the first centuries CE) together with Late Harappan cultures gave rise to the Vedic civilization of the Early Iron Age.

This period is marked by a gradual and continual shift of the population to the east, first to the Gangetic plain with the Kurus and Panchalas, and further east with the Kosala and Videha
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Its Not the Question of Who has written / supported the theory. Did you Read the Book. What did he say ?
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Looser , Unable to digest reality and truth//

looser ledhu bongu ledhu..

i am not from north india aryan avtaaniki, i dont speak hindi or sanskrit,

yetaakaaramu cheste gudhax paguludhi ani aa post yesaaa.

male, female british vallu cheppinanthavaraku indians theleedhaaa???
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Even Bal-Ganghadhar Tilak wrote a book about Aryan Immigration to India.
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Ekkaiko elthandi thread
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british also created male and female gender concepts to divide and rule.//

nuvvu gudhaxx muyyaraa lava deke baal


Looser , Unable to digest reality and truth...}
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I don't understand in what context you posed this question. Here is some info , which i got from Wiki

The Persian Empire was a series of successive Iranian or Iraniate empires that ruled over the Iranian plateau, the original Persian homeland, and beyond in Western Asia, South Asia, Central Asia and the Caucasus

The Iranian plateau, also known as the Persian plateau[1][2] is a geological formation in Southwest Asia, Southern Asia and the Caucasus region. It is the part of the Eurasian Plate wedged between the Arabian and Indian plates, situated between the Zagros mountains to the west, the Caspian Sea and the Kopet Dag to the north, the Hormuz Strait and Arabian Sea to the south and Hindu Kush to the east.

The Caucasus or Caucas (also referred to as Caucasia,[1] Russian: ÐавкаÌз) is a geopolitical region located between Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. It is home to the Caucasus Mountains, including Europe's highest mountain (Mount Elbrus)

North Caucasus comprises:
Russia (Chechnya, Ingushetia, Dagestan, Adyghea, Kabardino-Balkaria, Karachai-Cherkessia, North Ossetia, Krasnodar Krai, Stavropol Krai)

South Caucasus comprises:
Georgia (including disputed, partially recognized Abkhazia and South Ossetia)
Armenia
Azerbaijan (including disputed Nagorno-Karabakh Republic)
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Indian:

I thought sanskrit is mother of all indian languages, madhya lo ee Tamil yeppudu vachindhi




chaaaala wrong maama.. south indian languages anni dravidian languages.. sanskrit tho asslau sambandhaledu... evo konni words teesukoni vundocchu but... South indian languages ki origin sanskrit kaadhu
Christians ku jerusalem elaago, Hindhuvulaku KAASI elaago, Thuraks ki Makka elaago.... alage maa ANNA gari abhimanulaku VICEROY alantidhi
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Indian:

nuvvu gudhaxx muyyaraa lava deke baal


Personnel Vadhu ...
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Sopathi:

Indian:

Leka british vaallu india nu devide and rule polocy li aryans, dravidians ani devide chesaaraa???


Britishers created Black & White Color o divide and rule...Lol
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british also created male and female gender concepts to divide and rule.//

nuvvu gudhaxx muyyaraa lava deke baal
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Mvssr75:

This is still controversy with each group having thier own say. This is created by English Historians to tell world that "They (Euroians) are Superiror. Its been argued / fought still debatable issue




According to many western historians, its from northern iran that aryans colonised europe and northern india.
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Mvssr75:

This is still controversy with each group having thier own say. This is created by English Historians to tell world that "They (Euroians) are Superiror. Its been argued / fought still debatable issue




Is Persia in Europe?
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Okatelugodu:

Indus valley civilatization was from 3000BC to 1500BC. Ah region lo vundi Aryans antaru




indus valley civilisation is not aryan.
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This is still controversy with each group having thier own say. This is created by English Historians to tell world that "They (Euroians) are Superiror. Its been argued / fought still debatable issue

"History cannot be frozen with few avaiable facts. It has to ve validated against the continuous process of fact finding coupled with technology to support it"
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Okatelugodu:

Badicoot




Typo. Bandicoot
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Indian:

moghals, muslims india ku vaachaaru ani telusu gaani ee aryans india ku yeppudu vachaaru




Indus valley civilatization was from 3000BC to 1500BC. Ah region lo vundi Aryans antaru
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Leka british vaallu india nu devide and rule polocy li aryans, dravidians ani devide chesaaraa???




british also created male and female gender concepts to divide and rule.
India la theguva unna jaathulu moodu ... Sikh, Marati and Tamil. Rest mee bhayya banana ...
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Mvssr75:

Becuase we see some specific words of in English which are originated from Sanskrith.




English keeps on adding words from every language. Its a continous process. For eg. Badicoot is added from Telugu from Pandikokku
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May be. But that doesn't mean Sanskrit is Originated from European Languages.




I didnt say that.

sanskrit, latin, greek, avesta etc all their mother(root) is same(PIE language)
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moghals, muslims india ku vaachaaru ani telusu gaani ee aryans india ku yeppudu vachaaru. aryans ante iran nunchi vachina valaaa??

Leka british vaallu india nu devide and rule polocy li aryans, dravidians ani devide chesaaraa???
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May be. But that doesn't mean Sanskrit is Originated from European Languages.
Becuase we see some specific words of in English which are originated from Sanskrith.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Sanskr it_origin
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Sanskrit is daughter of Indo-Iranian Language and Indo-Iranian Language is daughter of Indo-European Languages.

So Sanskrit is Grand-daughter of Indo-European Languages.

Tamil is purely Native Indian.
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Sanskrit is the standard register as laid out in the grammar of Panini, around the 4th century BCE. Its position in the cultures of South and Southeast Asia is akin to that of Latin and Greek in Europe and it has significantly influenced most modern languages of Nepal and India.

The pre-Classical form of Sanskrit is known as Vedic Sanskrit, with the language of the Rigveda being the oldest and most archaic stage preserved, its oldest core dating back to as early as 1500 BCE, qualifying Rigvedic Sanskrit as one of the oldest attestation of any Indo-Iranian language, and one of the earliest attested members of the Indo-European language family.


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Mvssr75:

There is no scietific proof to say Sanskrit is brach of Europian Languages, except a group which supports this thoery.




almost all linguists agree that sankrit belongs to indo-european family of languages.
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Gatha:




Languages inherit words from other popular languages. There is no scietific proof to say Sanskrit is brach of Europian Languages, except a group which supports this thoery.
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I thought sanskrit is mother of all indian languages, madhya lo ee Tamil yeppudu vachindhi




chaa... chinese is the mother of all indian language yemi kaadhu?

FYI, all indian languages root is not same.
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These proof are relatived to the latest avaiable excavations. Based on that we can say yes, it may be Tamil. But this may not be correct , one we get more proofs.
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I thought sanskrit is mother of all indian languages, madhya lo ee Tamil yeppudu vachindhi




Sanskrit is in branch of European languages, Tamil is purely Native Indian.
Kannada and Telugu got heavily corrupted by Sanskrit.
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I thought sanskrit is mother of all indian languages, madhya lo ee Tamil yeppudu vachindhi
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tamil oldest language yendhi saamy comedy kaakapothe.

Vinataaniki antha ashayamu gaa untundhi, yedho dabba lo rallu yesi sound chesinatlu.

kannada vintaaniki baaguntundhi eventhough I dont understand.

Hindi songs vinataaniki chalaa baguntaayi eventhough I dont understand.

But Tamil yaaak thu... adhi oldest language yendhi saami, mana poorveekula intha chandalamaina laguage lo maatlaadukunevaraaa??
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Bhikhu:

you r wrong sanskrit is a kajin of Ahura mazda and 2nd cousin of Jarutha


Good Joke, RSS,VHP have brainwashed people like you..Lol
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"Tamil oldest language anadaaniki aadhaaraalu vunnaayi" anadaaniki pedha pedha grandhaalu vunnaayi
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Sanskrit is cousin of Avesta


you r wrong sanskrit is a kajin of Ahura mazda and 2nd cousin of Jarutha
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Tamil is much much older than Sanskrit, Sanskrit is cousin of Avesta and it was written in arabic script ,after Aryans came to India, Sanskrit was written in devanagari script or hindi script.}
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tamil older than sanskrit ani arava kurrol gola
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Sanskrit idea ledu...

South languages lo.. idhi order...

Tamil baaga pracheena.... next Kannada.. next Telugu....
Christians ku jerusalem elaago, Hindhuvulaku KAASI elaago, Thuraks ki Makka elaago.... alage maa ANNA gari abhimanulaku VICEROY alantidhi
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tamil ani kkd seppamannaaD
inta batuku batiki istarlu esukunE daani kaaLLa meeda paDDam enTi raju gaaru?
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Telugu or Sanskrit or Tamil or Kannada or something else}

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