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Ntr_fan:

they still support chiru..


again bro u r looking through the eyes of a non chiru fan...there is a section of ppl who in spite of being fans dont follow blindly...
pro- PRP jantha antha banners kattay fans ani anukuntay...next political career kee punaadhi laaga prathi okkadu movies chesukovali...
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Kkd:

Ikkada LS ani seppe vallu entha mandhi valla intilo LS ki vote eyincharu...??



Kish:

Nenu LS fan ani DB lo cheppukonu kaani nenu atleast oka 15 votes veyincha! :D




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As ive said earlier,JPs view on education is the only departure from status quo and i am afraid his educational policy wont work. the system we have is good one and highly tested one over the times.
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krishnudu kurukshetram lo nana thondi chesi pandavuls ki gelipinchindu.. at the end pani ayyinda leda ani..change tevataniki honesty manchithanam avasaram ledu ani anukutnunna.




Looks like our society is in "Catch 22" .. JP win avvaali ante poor peofle vote eyyaali.. Kaani poor peofle vote eyyaali ante populistic skemes undaali..
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Kish:

Thammud, bottomline ettu- LS ki enni votes veyinchaav? Nenu LS fan ani DB lo cheppukonu kaani nenu atleast oka 15 votes veyincha!




1. hyd lo 2 votes BJP ki epicha nuvvu cheppavani..
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Ikkada LS ani seppe vallu entha mandhi valla intilo LS ki vote eyincharu...??

Problem with LS is we like it...but manasulo LS ki veyyali anukuntam...booth loki elli mana party ki esi vastharu.....
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Wrathchild:

cheppistadu ani elaa conclude chestunnav??.ante party lo dummies ni cherchukunte u become a leader automatically..then u say one man rule..ide criticism CBN face chesadu okappudu..Ofcourse Sobharani and Posani are worst,okasari sobharani ni comment chesadu..bagaledu avida cheppina matalu ani..inka sagam media hadavidi posani lanti vallani pattukoni rajasekhar meeda opinion enti ante alane matladataru..

Give me one reason why JP had to oppose 100rs scheme




party lo dummylanie avru cehruchukomannaru..SHobarani,posani aknte manchi leaders ye lera?

shobarani fisrt time matladinappudu kandinchadu..sare..monna NTV meeda dhadi chesindi..chappatlu kottada?

posani,shobarani,allu,bhooma, pilani ammesukunna peter subbayay lanti leaders ni epttukuni chiru ni JP tho ela compare cheyabuddi avutundi annai..

100rs ni Jp enduku comemntc hesado teliyadu..provide me the video..analyse chesi cheputha..
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Anand_n:

Meeru site chusara - Lok Satta movement concentrates on improving Governance ..and governance is not just for middle-class..though the poor and illiterate may find it hard to comprehend the benefit...




ivi inthakumundhu implement cheyabadaledha? Naku telsi ivemo kotha ideas kaave. Decentralization ayithe 70s kaalam idea.. panchayathraj system ochinde as part of decentralization kada..

electoral reforms , i think is not under the purview of elected govt.. it is unde EC which is free from any democratic process.

Accountable political parties ante artham kaatledu naku. What does that mean anyway?

Self governance and etc are ancient ideas which are implemented/being implemented..
So i dont know whats new about LS agenda or what is the "change" that he is going to bring
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Anand ji, ivi manaki baaga stike awuthaai...but common man kee kooda strike avvali antay ...JP/LS should spend a few more years implementing these...prathi ooru/basti lo atleast oka min % ayina JP/LS antay soft corener undaali...word by mouth publicity ayina undaali...appuday charishma...




YEah - this takes time to be able to show the benefits of right governance - its not as easy as doling out instant gratification freebies :-)I am just hoping the movement sustains that long...

Today Loksatta has over 100,000 members - if it continues building momentum , hopefully the tipover point will come fast:-)
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Ntr_fan:




Thammud, bottomline ettu- LS ki enni votes veyinchaav? Nenu LS fan ani DB lo cheppukonu kaani nenu atleast oka 15 votes veyincha! :D
Thodala Simha Reddy- Thodalogy- Bala thodalaku Oscar
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Humpty_dumpty:

fanism okkatay kaadhu vexed up with the existing parties




i don't think so..for suppose Chiru congi/tdp lo cheri unte...they still support chiru..
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Ntr_fan:

Chiru might be good..waht about people around him..pakkana unna vallani control cheyanappudu..How can he control the state..akakde leadership qaulities entha unnayo ardham avutundi...




Lack of inexperience..capability leni vadu burraleni vadu aite there is no Chiru in the industry..NTR was overtaken by family members..did he lack leadership qualities..some times that happens..


Ntr_fan:

Rayalaseema lo factionism ni antham chesta antadu pakkana bhooma ni pettukuni...




Bhooma nagireddy prp loki vacche mundu was he driving a sumo and killing ppl..change ayyadu anukovacchuga?.. atleast he is not as paritala and opponents right?


Ntr_fan:

Leaders meeda personal comemnts cheyanu antadu..migatah party leadesr cheta chepistadu...gandhiji oka chempa meeda kodithe rendo chempa choopiyyamannadu..Gandhi follower chiru rendu chempalu pagalakodutha antunandu..




cheppistadu ani elaa conclude chestunnav??.ante party lo dummies ni cherchukunte u become a leader automatically..then u say one man rule..ide criticism CBN face chesadu okappudu..Ofcourse Sobharani and Posani are worst,okasari sobharani ni comment chesadu..bagaledu avida cheppina matalu ani..inka sagam media hadavidi posani lanti vallani pattukoni rajasekhar meeda opinion enti ante alane matladataru..


Give me one reason why JP had to oppose 100rs scheme
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Ntr_fan:

fanism meeda padutunnayi...very few for change..


fanism okkatay kaadhu vexed up with the existing parties
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Loksattha meedha kooda edusthaara? 2 bad 2 worst ra Papi gaa!!


Thodala Simha Reddy- Thodalogy- Bala thodalaku Oscar
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Wrathchild:

i think its the other way


chass too many typos my bad
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Loksatta ki pade prati vote looking for change in politics...they want clean politics...they want better india..kaani chiru ki pade majority of votes fanism meeda padutunnayi...very few for change..
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Anand ji, ivi manaki baaga stike awuthaai...but common man kee kooda strike avvali antay ...JP/LS should spend a few more years implementing these...prathi ooru/basti lo atleast oka min % ayina JP/LS antay soft corener undaali...word by mouth publicity ayina undaali...appuday charishma...

hope they relaise it...nenu desham lo chala mandhi nee choosanu LS badges petu kuntaaru everyday as if they were pledges, but villu antha minimum class 2 employees...class 4 kee reach awwali antay it needs more time...

any ways it is a good start for LS...ee round lo % matters to LS
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Wrathchild:

what i dont agree jumping to conclusions by saying jp is wise




This conclusion for most of us is based on reading JP's papers on governance, his NGO work etc :-) Its not driven by fashion - otherwise I guess PRP is tha fashion of the day :-)
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Wrathchild:

if CCT did something good, i feel thats enought to give chiru a chance. i am not saying jp should not be given a chance. he deserves it too...what i dont agree jumping to conclusions by saying jp is wise over chiru is little immature. when no one knows how they perform as CMs. CCT good good name..so is some schemes of JP..ideally i feel they should join hands rather than fighting separately..a mix of populist schemes+ ideas+ charisma..

ante tappa PRP nunchi oka scheme vacchindi ani ventane musti anakarledu..he has some real attitude propblem if he says so..

also popular misconception is JP has support of all educated ppl and chiru has followers only from uneducated and labor..

happy days sodi ante last year ee reaction iccharu..JP ni criticise chesina same reaction vacchela undi..its become a fashion to support JP out rightly..is it wrong to do a constructive criticism?




Chiru might be good..waht about people around him..pakkana unna vallani control cheyanappudu..How can he control the state..akakde leadership qaulities entha unnayo ardham avutundi...

what u say should show in ur actions...Rayalaseema lo factionism ni antham chesta antadu pakkana bhooma ni pettukuni...

Leaders meeda personal comemnts cheyanu antadu..migatah party leadesr cheta chepistadu...gandhiji oka chempa meeda kodithe rendo chempa choopiyyamannadu..Gandhi follower chiru rendu chempalu pagalakodutha antunandu..

Jp meeda personal remarks chesina never commented on anyone....whatever jp has is Credibility..honesty...

ika LS ki support cheyatam fashion kaadu..Passion
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Humpty_dumpty:

LS in terms of mass catering and PRP in terms of proper ideals...




i think its the other way
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Getafix:



krishnudu kurukshetram lo nana thondi chesi pandavuls ki gelipinchindu




no comedies ..
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Humpty_dumpty:

LS + PRP would have been a good combo...but independently both went south.



Wrathchild:

ideally i feel they should join hands rather than fighting separately..a mix of populist schemes+ ideas+ charisma..




i hope this will be reality in future
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Getafix:



liquor koniche nayakudiki elli votestharu anukuntunnava janam.. antha amayukulu karu mama. LIquor tagutharu , 100rs teesukuntaru biryani thini elli thongoni vote esevaniki estharu.




mama ... oka vela adi taagi kooda ala vote veyyaru anukunte .. antha antha karchupettaru kada mama politicians/business men.
Vote for Bharatiya Janata Party :-)
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Ntr_fan:

how chiru is better than Jp?


the factor of "masses". Chiru is better ani kaadhu. chriu nike pakkana petti bata lo shoe kontay mass andaru aha oho anduru...aday jp arigipoyina bata cheppu kee safety pin pettukuni tirigina evaru dekharu...

mana desham lo mass ke cater cheyyatam most important...LS + PRP would have been a good combo...but independently both went south...LS in terms of mass catering and PRP in terms of proper ideals...

PRP antunna ani blunt gaa chiru fan anovakadhu...prp place lo mass catering ability unna tendulkar/rajnikanth party pedithay ilanay untundhee...
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Shawshank:

Very true .. He only fared better comparatively with others .. He could have done even better, so are all human efforts, right?




krishnudu kurukshetram lo nana thondi chesi pandavuls ki gelipinchindu.. at the end pani ayyinda leda ani..change tevataniki honesty manchithanam avasaram ledu ani anukutnunna.
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Ntr_fan:


Toilets for every household (1998-ongoing)
idi poor people ke anukunta kada..ivi leni middleclass kooda untara?




poor ppl dont have proper houses..u talk about toilets.


Ntr_fan:

.first link immannaru..link iste..poor people ki emi cheyaleud antunnaru...asalu Jp tho comapre cheste chiru emi chesadoc ehppandi..other than CCT...how chiru is better than Jp?




link immandi schemes discuss cheyyadaniki about them..vaddu disco aa schemes ki ante sare..

if CCT did something good, i feel thats enought to give chiru a chance. i am not saying jp should not be given a chance. he deserves it too...what i dont agree jumping to conclusions by saying jp is wise over chiru is little immature. when no one knows how they perform as CMs. CCT good good name..so is some schemes of JP..ideally i feel they should join hands rather than fighting separately..a mix of populist schemes+ ideas+ charisma..

ante tappa PRP nunchi oka scheme vacchindi ani ventane musti anakarledu..he has some real attitude propblem if he says so..

also popular misconception is JP has support of all educated ppl and chiru has followers only from uneducated and labor..

happy days sodi ante last year ee reaction iccharu..JP ni criticise chesina same reaction vacchela undi..its become a fashion to support JP out rightly..is it wrong to do a constructive criticism?
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Wrathchild:

Nuvvu icchina link lo success rate enta? how many of them are for poor ppl..dont think above poor ppl..JP concentrates more on middleclass




Meeru site chusara - Lok Satta movement concentrates on improving Governance ..and governance is not just for middle-class..though the poor and illiterate may find it hard to comprehend the benefit...

Loksatta Movement Charter/objectives

Focused and effective government Redefinition of state's role
Efficient and responsive bureaucracy
Speedy and accessible justice
Stability and cohesion in government

Free and fair electoral process
Accountable political parties.
Electoral reforms

Genuine decentralization
Balanced federalism
Local self-governance
Stake-holder empowerment

Instruments of accountability
Right to information
Independent crime investigation
Limitation of terms of office
Checks against abuse of office
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Shawshank:

though I can understand the pain of hunger .. tell me why do you think poor people get sold for a quarter of liquor?




liquor koniche nayakudiki elli votestharu anukuntunnava janam.. antha amayukulu karu mama. LIquor tagutharu , 100rs teesukuntaru biryani thini elli thongoni vote esevaniki estharu.
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then he shud be fine with his NGO activities. he is still serving right? and thru LS NGO ppl have all power to do social reform activities..




alage NGO lone undamanukunnadu..kaani antah bayata undi comment cheyatam enduku...politics loki digi comemnt cheyandi..telustundi meeku ante..digadu...
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Very true .. He only fared better comparatively with others .. He could have done even better, so are all human efforts, right?
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Wrathchild:

Nuvvu icchina link lo success rate enta? how many of them are for poor ppl..dont think above poor ppl..JP concentrates more on middleclass




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cheppa kada meeru disapointc heyaleru nannau..first link immannaru..link iste..poor people ki emi cheyaleud antunnaru...asalu Jp tho comapre cheste chiru emi chesadoc ehppandi..other than CCT...how chiru is better than Jp?
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Wrathchild:

then he shud be fine with his NGO activities. he is still serving right? and thru LS NGO ppl have all power to do social reform activities..




He is continuing with it right, his political arm is only to enable them greater and faster success.
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Did not quite understand how losing will help him garner mass support


repeated text typing issue.
I meant to say it can only be a boon in case he loses and if the educated class still support him and their confidence in him grows, there by he can better use his time and resources to gather support. I think my next sentence was the other side of the coin.
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Shawshank:

you did not get me right .. a man who stood for values is always respected. Does vajpayee feel bad that he did not opt for buying the MPs .. NO .. he chose not to buy MPs on the floor.




well that act of honesty got him into NDA alliance and brahmacharinulu Jaya and Mamta iddaru bachelor vajpayee ni kabaddi aadesukunnaru. NDA ani cheppi BJP idealogy ni kitchidi chesi india shining ani board ettaru chivariki. he could have done so much but at the end of the day he wasted his chance and opted honesty and respect.
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Iam sure..ur opinion would never be different..




Stop jumping to conclusions.

Nuvvu icchina link lo success rate enta? how many of them are for poor ppl..dont think above poor ppl..JP concentrates more on middleclass


Shawshank:


I believe, this is not what he wanted.




then he shud be fine with his NGO activities. he is still serving right? and thru LS NGO ppl have all power to do social reform activities..
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Anand_n:

Did not quite understand how losing will help him garner mass support :-)

But agree that he needs to be able to influence the masses to win ..


it takes some time...but day will come for sure...just hope.....
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totally agree.. answer cheppakane cheppav nuvvu. Mana laage india lo mana lanti middle class .. vallaki roju gadavatme kashtam ane concept telidhu kaani everyday life lo face chese chinna issues ki frustrate ayyi change antaru.. kaani ade poor people - they strugggle everyday just to put bread on the table. Manaku maname leaders endhuku ante manaku independenc eekkuva from govt but for those poor people , they are dependant on govt and they need a leader.. that is why they go and vote for so called non-elitist parties..




though I can understand the pain of hunger .. tell me why do you think poor people get sold for a quarter of liquor?
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Wrathchild:

If JP wants to get real power




I believe, this is not what he wanted. All he wanted is people to have the real power! There ends the matter.
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Getafix:

Ponee vajpayee ki eenadu goppa place isthunara ante emi ledu..




you did not get me right .. a man who stood for values is always respected. Does vajpayee feel bad that he did not opt for buying the MPs .. NO .. he chose not to buy MPs on the floor.
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Wrathchild:

JP, if he really thinks about good of ppl and can judge the practical implementation of a scheme.he will nto say its musti.not just comment the scheme as it is from a competing party..In what way its a freebie..JP niswardham ga ee scheme bavundi ani appreciate chesinattie my opinion would hv been different..




Iam sure..ur opinion would never be different..kinda ichina link choosi mee opinion ettandi..I know once again..aa link choosaka kooda mee opinion change avavdu....
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Shawshank:

comparing your fav. agenda with the worst to look good for yourself!



Wrathchild:

can u pls list out LS promises so that we can see their practical implementation




Nope,we can discuss after someone responds to this
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Humpty_dumpty:

if he loses boon: next time mass support kee he will have a good base
bane: loser mentality among supporters, ee change evadu belive cheyyadu manakee enduku lite...




Did not quite understand how losing will help him garner mass support :-)

But agree that he needs to be able to influence the masses to win ..
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Shawshank:

In my opinion yes,




How? If Jp also feels the same, he shud explain how its impossible.

Say educating ppl,making them earn money is not a overnight process and not possible in a 5 yr term in a country like india..If JP wants to get real power he needs to support populist schemes which are not difficult to implement initially..when once ppl are enjoying the benifits of the scheme, he can educate them on how to earn money and eventually fade out these schemes..

can u pls list out LS promises so that we can see their practical implementation
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Wrathchild:

compare it with color tv scheme..




this and the cash transfer are absolute bull-crap bro .. but what you are doing is .. comparing your fav. agenda with the worst to look good for yourself!
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Shawshank:

Even in JP case, he is not getting anything by simply contesting from Lok Satta. Even if he loses every election, fine, he will still be written as someone who did not sell his soul for the sake of meager votes. Credibility and at last, his honesty.




romanticsm antaru bedar nuvvu maatladanni.. credibility and honesty enti..pani kavali mam! PVNR dishonest ga MPs ni konesi minority govt ni koni india markets ni open chesadu ade Vajpayee ji honesty tho mid term elections techadu.. nashtam evarikayyindi? Ponee vajpayee ki eenadu goppa place isthunara ante emi ledu..
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Humpty_dumpty:

bane: loser mentality among supporters, ee change evadu belive cheyyadu manakee enduku lite...




deenike chance ekkuva undi ..
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One:

canu list out what kitchen items mean.....clarity kavali.....




Oil/tamarind,toordal/rice anukunta..


Ntr_fan:

freebies tho voters ni pralobha pette concept ki JP vyatirekam...people ki money ela earn cheyalo nerpali kaan..100 rs ke vanta sarukulu enduku...




U need to understand the scheme..its not freebie..its subsidized..teda leda?farmers ki subsidized eruvulu ivvatleda? poor students ki fee tagginchatleda..if they are good schemes..this is aslo good..its not free..remember that and compare it with color tv scheme..

JP, if he really thinks about good of ppl and can judge the practical implementation of a scheme.he will nto say its musti.not just comment the scheme as it is from a competing party..In what way its a freebie..JP niswardham ga ee scheme bavundi ani appreciate chesinattie my opinion would hv been different..
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Is 100 rs for kitchen items practically impossible to implement..?




In my opinion yes, on the back of several other schemes which are populist and have to be subsidized.

In any case, there is no point talking about a person who fought and lost for good values, when people do not care. All it matters is victory for some, no matter how !
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As getafix bro said...JP middle class and educated section dependency will be a boon or bane irrespective of the result.

if he wins - boon : he now can dedicate more effort to garner support among masses. bane at the same time, if the educated class feel that he has compromised some of his ideals to garner mass support.

if he loses boon: next time mass support kee he will have a good base
bane: loser mentality among supporters, ee change evadu belive cheyyadu manakee enduku lite...

desham lo without blue collar and mass supp0rt, no1 can win or survive.
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Wrathchild:

Is 100 rs for kitchen items practically impossible to implement..?10 rs ki ista analedu kada..just take this scheme..forget about chiru and prp..see this scheme as it is..and is it impossible to implement..is the very idea bad?its lot better compared to TV scheme right..which is costlier to implement..we are not sure if we have budget.. Just 100 rs scheme is no big deal to implement..

what makes him say that this is musti?




freebies tho voters ni pralobha pette concept ki JP vyatirekam...people ki money ela earn cheyalo nerpali kaan..100 rs ke vanta sarukulu enduku...

Asalu PRP pettina freebie ni coemmnt chesadu ani feel avutunnara? leka meeru for freebies..ye freebies ni evaru oppose chesina ilage feel avutara?

kind alink cihanu choosara..Loksatta services paina..
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Wrathchild:

Is 100 rs for kitchen items practically impossible to implement..?


canu list out what kitchen items mean.....clarity kavali.....
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Mallik:

inkoti endante, neeku naaku ikkadi db'ers andarikee evaru ochhinaa pedda effect padadu.. problems lo padedi desham la unnollu.. manakem.. amma-ayya baane settled.. inkaa kaavaali ante paisal pamputam.. but think about poor..




totally agree.. answer cheppakane cheppav nuvvu. Mana laage india lo mana lanti middle class .. vallaki roju gadavatme kashtam ane concept telidhu kaani everyday life lo face chese chinna issues ki frustrate ayyi change antaru.. kaani ade poor people - they strugggle everyday just to put bread on the table. Manaku maname leaders endhuku ante manaku independenc eekkuva from govt but for those poor people , they are dependant on govt and they need a leader.. that is why they go and vote for so called non-elitist parties..
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Middle class intellectuals ni nammukunna ye leader baagupadaledu.. BJP and Naidu last time ..they lost badly ..why Naidu IT hawa lo kottukapoyadu masses ni pakkana ettadu cut chesthe Congress..BJP kuda anthe.




loss evariki annai .. BJP and Naidu kaa .. middle class ka .. you vote for what you want. I presume they voted congress last time, so they got what they voted. If they did not vote for anybody, they are still getting congress which they did not want! so people choose their destinies themselves.

Even in JP case, he is not getting anything by simply contesting from Lok Satta. Even if he loses every election, fine, he will still be written as someone who did not sell his soul for the sake of meager votes. Credibility and at last, his honesty.
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One thing i dont understand abt jp is..

Is 100 rs for kitchen items practically impossible to implement..?10 rs ki ista analedu kada..just take this scheme..forget about chiru and prp..see this scheme as it is..and is it impossible to implement..is the very idea bad?its lot better compared to TV scheme right..which is costlier to implement..we are not sure if we have budget.. Just 100 rs scheme is no big deal to implement..

what makes him say that this is musti?
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Shawshank:

1) He spent whatever money he could gather through legal sources. He did not rig, neither did he use alcohol, chicken biryanis.

2) He promised only what is possible.

3) He avoided caste/religion talk.




Well said :-)

Getafix,
The reasons above are enough for me to say we need JP :-)
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Getafix:

Nenu aayana website lo sadvina danni batti chusthe aayana cheppevi anni paatha muchate kada


Design anedi prathee party chestundi.. but no implementation.. Only hope is he will implement atleast 50% what he says.. he is against populistic schemes.. inkoti endante, neeku naaku ikkadi db'ers andarikee evaru ochhinaa pedda effect padadu.. problems lo padedi desham la unnollu.. manakem.. amma-ayya baane settled.. inkaa kaavaali ante paisal pamputam.. but think about poor..
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Shawshank:

naa drusti lo Lok Satta lanti parties succeed avvali ante .. people need to get educated not just literate !




Shaw bedar.. porabaduhtunnav.. people ni antha underestimate seyyaku. They are very intelligent.It is leaders like JP should change and try to get more audience.. aayana approach change cheyyakapothe problem.

Middle class intellectuals ni nammukunna ye leader baagupadaledu.. BJP and Naidu last time ..they lost badly ..why Naidu IT hawa lo kottukapoyadu masses ni pakkana ettadu cut chesthe Congress..BJP kuda anthe.
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Loksatta techina Change

Toilets for every household (1998-ongoing)
Stakeholders Empowerment - Water Users Associations and School Education Committees (1998)
Power Sector-People's Initiative (1999-ongoing).
Elimination of short delivery at petrol pumps across A.P. (1999)
Empowerment of Local Governments (1999-ongoing)
Electoral Rolls - Election Commission considers Post Office as Nodal Agency (1999-2002)
Election Watch- Screening of Candidates for Criminal Record (1999)
Local Government Electoral Reform (1999-ongoing)
Alternative Bill for Women's Reservation (2000)
Building Regularization Scheme (BRS) in Kukatpally, A.P. (2000)
Central Excise in Hyderabad (2001)
Citizen's Charters in Andhra Pradesh Municipalities (2001)
Enabling Cooperative Law (2001)
Right to Information (2001)
Political Funding Reform
National Campaign for Political Reforms
Supreme Court Judgment of March 13th, 2003
Campaign for Empowerment of Local Governments (2003)
One crore signature campaign
AP Election Watch (2004)
National Advisory Council (NAC) Meetings (2004)
Post Office as a Nodal Agency (2004)
Maharashtra Election Watch (2004)
VOTEINDIA - National Campaign for Political Reforms (2004)
Lok Satta Brings Back Smile on the Faces of "Unsuccessful Students" (2004)
Lok Satta's Call to Fight Corruption (2004)
Advisor and Lead Role in Governance Reforms
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special about LS aa ..

1) He spent whatever money he could gather through legal sources. He did not rig, neither did he use alcohol, chicken biryanis.

2) He promised only what is possible.

3) He avoided caste/religion talk.

I think that is enough to be special in Indian politics.
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On records no party is breaking..thats being enforced..




loksatta only on records..off records spending ledu..ade theda...
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Wrathchild:

Any examples of service they offered?




http://www.loksattamovement.org/impact.htm

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half post ye padidnhi..

LS agenda nachina vallu naa lanti vaaru kadu kada.. JP gelvali kani LS ekkuva seats raakunna parvaledhu ani vallu anaru kaani naku mathram ok. So whoever support LS might go and vote for Jp and whoever arent so sure but like LS agenda might not go and vote
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EC pettina rules ni braek cheyatam ledu kada.




On records no party is breaking..thats being enforced..
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but they are 4th in terms of spending money and ads etc..




EC pettina rules ni braek cheyatam ledu kada..entha karchupettalo anthe epdutunnaru....asalu karche pettakunda campaign ela chestaru?
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Anand_n:

Loksatta was/is an NGO serving people




Any examples of service they offered?
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Getafix - I think Elca's answer to the above question will address your statement too.. I hope you are right about people who believe in JP's ideology not crossing over



Anand Goruu.. I like JP.. I think he got an impressive resume and to some extent I identify myself with JP but I dont agree with his agenda..Jp win avvali ane oka soft corner undhi kaani JP ye ravali ochesi naa jeevitham lo deepam eligichali anenthaga ayithe naaku ledhu.. So ina way i am a JP viter and in other , I am not.
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Shawshank:

people need to get educated




what is so special about LS other than Jp being IAS? On one hand they say they are an alternative to 3 parties,but they are 4th in terms of spending money and ads etc..when u read a manifesto of a party..everything is written in good english gives a good impression..other than that what is so much to rave abt LS?
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Wrathchild:

why didn't he do taht as a IAS officer




That is uncalled for annai .. He did his best .. he earned a very good name .. that is what is expected of him as an IAS
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Wrathchild:

ippudu malla fresh ga power iste praja seva chesta anatam enti..




Power iste prajaseva cheyyatam enti - Loksatta was/is an NGO serving people long before the party was started :-)
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Loksatha succeed avvali ante they need a star campaigner....PK lanti vallu for eg....kavali or Mahesh




naa drusti lo Lok Satta lanti parties succeed avvali ante .. people need to get educated not just literate !
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Anand_n:

Clarify who is "maku"




Chiu Haters..party nasanam avvali ani korukune athanu.

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JP ki IAS office ga power vadilesukoni(he had a chance to serve ppl at taht time).. ETV lo prathidwani anchoring sesi..ippudu malla fresh ga power iste praja seva chesta anatam enti..why didn't he do taht as a IAS officer..dont say political bureaucracy prevented him
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Mallik:




Initial ga PRP ettinappud..i thought PRP would be a glamourised version of Loksatta for real change ani expect chesaa....konni compromises tho Loksatta type agenda tho vasthundhi ani.....

Loksatha succeed avvali ante they need a star campaigner....PK lanti vallu for eg....kavali or Mahesh
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Mallik:

JP ki emayyindi ayyaa? opika pattandi.. mana adrushtam baagunte JP laantollu ostaru




Mallik bedar.. JP lanti leader endhuku kavali manaki?

Nenu aayana website lo sadvina danni batti chusthe aayana cheppevi anni paatha muchate kada..As far as I understood , he took a different stand only on education..rest of his ideals are old ideas packaged in new bottle laga anfinchindi. Nen JP hater kadu kani i want to know why we need JP..
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Bhikhu:

LS matash ayina parledu maku PRP nasinam avvatam mukhyam




Clarify who is "maku" :-)
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LS matash ayina parledu maku PRP nasinam avvatam mukhyam
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Getafix:


I dont think JP voters will join a different group..some will vote to LS and some will not turn out at polls..



Elcaminocapastrino:

I wish he wins though....




Elca- would you have voted for LS or PRP ?

Getafix - I think Elca's answer to the above question will address your statement too.. I hope you are right about people who believe in JP's ideology not crossing over:-)

Shawshank:

Hyd city varaku .. Lok Satta vi surprising votes untayi choodandi .. They many not win many seats .. but people will have to consider their % of votes .. knowing JP, he will take a good piece of the cake in the next GHMC elections.




That would indeed be a good change :-)

Film_fan:

but there are still people outthere who think they can make difference by voting them......



The numbers will tell the story I think :-)
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First Lok Satta ni spell cheyyadam nersuko..

"Change" anedi one fine morning lechi.. okay .. mana politicians are waste.. Lets begin a new era ante change ostadaa? Pre and Post independence nundi pattina boozu ni dulapaneeki konni samachharaalu padthadi.. JP is contesting in first general assembly elections.. his party mite not win.. infact he himself mite loose.. alaa ani cheppi manam lite teeskunte, enduku manakee saduvu.. sankanaakaneekaa?

RCT first movie addangaa lestene, fans vijilies eshi, he is our future star ananga lenidi.. JP ki emayyindi ayyaa? opika pattandi.. mana adrushtam baagunte JP laantollu ostaru.. lekunte daridram middle house lo thaandaviste, JP would become past..
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Shawshank:

if JP wins and LS gets 10% votes in Hyderabad area .. that is enough for Congress, BJP, TDP, TRS, PRP to sit and notice. why .. 10% is a huge margin for winning/losing in multi-cornered contests.



elections anevi case by case anukuntunna atleast for small parties like LS..so mana desam lo vote banks chala unpredictable.. US lo laga blue and red states ani divide sesi sammaga predict cheyyalem anukuntunna.
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Anand_n:

so we will join a group that is most likely to win..irrespective of the direction its moving in




I dont think JP voters will join a different group..some will vote to LS and some will not turn out at polls..
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annai .. in my view ..

if JP wins and LS gets 10% votes in Hyderabad area .. that is enough for Congress, BJP, TDP, TRS, PRP to sit and notice. why .. 10% is a huge margin for winning/losing in multi-cornered contests.

and BJP is not in the reckoning in the state anywhere .. whatever their performance is, it will only add up to the "zero" they have !
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Shawshank:

Hyd city varaku .. Lok Satta vi surprising votes untayi choodandi .. They many not win many seats .. but people will have to consider their % of votes .. knowing JP, he will take a good piece of the cake in the next GHMC elections.




thammudu .. BJP - another elitist party bigger in size than LS , ke kashtam ga undhi state lo.. inka LS em surprise chesthundi.. right now KP lo JP definite ani kuda cheppalekapothunnaru.. even if he wins.. winning 1 seat is neither a surprise nor making a strong statement.
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47% votes are polled in hyd...I think JP failed in mobilising even the educated....I wish he wins though....
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LS will get a good percentage of votes......

either they can win a seat or not.....is an open secret....but there are still people outthere who think they can make difference by voting them......
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akkai .. nenu frank ga cheptunna ..

Hyd city varaku .. Lok Satta vi surprising votes untayi choodandi .. They many not win many seats .. but people will have to consider their % of votes .. knowing JP, he will take a good piece of the cake in the next GHMC elections.
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LOksatta mattash anntav ante
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Getafix:

thats the irony isnt it.. but thats the way it is. JP voters identify themselves with him and his idealogy but they dont have the confidence that he can bring the transformation they want..




I can understand that part - but what puzzles me is they are willing to sell themselves short...

Its like - we are not sure if the LS will take us to our desired destination , so we will join a group that is most likely to win..irrespective of the direction its moving in ... to me it seems very short-sighted :-)
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Loke Satta Mattash




indulo oka space atu itu pettunte, "lokes atta matash"

ayyuntundhi..
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JP oodipoovatam siggu chetu.... India loo no one cares about voting, but would voice their opinion against politics and political leaders all the time....




that is the beauty of modern democracy annai.. in 70s voter turnout used to be comparatively high because they believed in the system and political parties.. ade ippudu - customized democracy valla voters ki political parties ante chulakana and aaya party leaders ante mistrust.
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Anand_n:

When the educated people who believe in his transformational policies do not have the conviction to go out and vote for him - where is the hope for change ?




thats the irony isnt it.. but thats the way it is. JP voters identify themselves with him and his idealogy but they dont have the confidence that he can bring the transformation they want..
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Chivuks:

entha sepu .. PRP bashing tappithe ..


e sari youth ls or prp ki ekkuva interest chupistharu ani prp meedha ekkuva consuntrate chesinntundi...
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entha sepu .. PRP bashing tappithe .. ruling cong ni, opp TDP ni .. ignore sette .. evadu pattinchukuntad
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ne enkamma youth antha prp ke youth antha prp ke annaru....tirigi chusthe fans kuda chanamandhi ls kesaru....eny college youth hyd lo ls ki ekkuvesaru...
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JP oodipoovatam siggu chetu.... India loo no one cares about voting, but would voice their opinion against politics and political leaders all the time....
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:-( That's bad news...


Getafix:

JP precharam ani antu colleges kelli lecturers , IAS officers tho change ani ante em laabham..mana deggira vote padalante open top jeep ekki mike atkoni maatladali ooroora thiragali..apppude gelustham anna aasha anna untadi kaneesam




When the educated people who believe in his transformational policies do not have the conviction to go out and vote for him - where is the hope for change ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 09:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

JP precharam ani antu colleges kelli lecturers , IAS officers tho change ani ante em laabham..mana deggira vote padalante open top jeep ekki mike atkoni maatladali ooroora thiragali..apppude gelustham anna aasha anna untadi kaneesam
I didnot care for godfather - peter griffin
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Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 09:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

emi chesina.. chaduvukunnollu.. india lo paisaki panikiraru
Murder cheste ne Puli, Kabja cheste Tiger .. Ivanni chesina vade Mukyamanthri kavadaniki arhudu ante..

Ma annayya chiru Raktham panchi, Manchi mansutho Mukyamanthri ayyi Tiger anipinchukutadu chudandi
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Congress guys made dadagiri on JP himself...
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lok satta yentha baga pracharam chesina okkarante okkaru kooda kadalaru city lo ..yendo karma
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cities lo just 40+% votes.. LK major locations.. boggu.
Murder cheste ne Puli, Kabja cheste Tiger .. Ivanni chesina vade Mukyamanthri kavadaniki arhudu ante..

Ma annayya chiru Raktham panchi, Manchi mansutho Mukyamanthri ayyi Tiger anipinchukutadu chudandi