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     Iamim Comedian Username: Iamim Post Number: 1579 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.230.178 Rating: N/A |
Indra can easily be traced to the Viking Thunder God Thor who has some sort of Hammer much like the Vajrayudham of Indra.. Vikings also cremated their dead and also immersed the ashes in rivers sometimes... | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3403 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150 Rating: N/A |
I am not interested in the blame game of what race/caste did what  I am interested in understanding the evolution of our Hindu theology - both from a sociological and religious perspective So if you can give me the link to any articles you mentioned on Shiva/Rudra - I would greatly appreciate it aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 209 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 209.172.101.244 Rating: N/A |
original aryans are not blonde haired but light brown or black haired. original aryans can still be found in Iran and Afghanistan  | ||
| Chantodu Side Hero Username: Chantodu Post Number: 5825 Registered: 07-2007 Posted From: 12.34.246.78 Rating: |
vali ni enaka ninchi samparu ********** vali comes under kind of mrigams, mrigams ni vetadtam chettuchatuna champadam mrigradarmama anukuntunna | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3400 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150 Rating: N/A |
Interesting that you bring this up - you are right Ramudiki blond hair ani nenu chadavaledu...but Indra is described as one with golden hair in the Rigveda ani chadivanu What really started me thinking on those lines was the comment about the path of the sun described in the Srimad Bhagavatham Because that path is only visible from within the arctic circle, the translator went to great lengths to reinterpret it to suit the latitudes of present day India and applied what we know of cosmology today to justify that explanation... My instinctive reaction was - are we twisting facts to meet our conviction that it was written in India about India - the simplest answer could just be the right answer - that it was actually observed in the Arctic circle aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 966 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
oh, mee id choosi, hyd base emo anukunnaanu. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1038 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Ohh ok. Hydbad is not my native. I am from Nellore. But i love hydbad  Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 965 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
kaadhu brother. which place in hyderabad are you from? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1037 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Meeru Der / Quantum kaadaa? Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 964 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
Iamim garu, baaaga chepparu, that is what i think too, we might hold opinions today, but tomorrow we might change them. Change in opinion is always possible as long as you are continuing to contemplate on the opinions. In this process do we really have to go to the extent of holding a grudge on someone who has opposing opinions? In my opinion(i really like this opinion, and i hope it does not change over time), we need not.
That is quite interesting, I read about Cushites some time back, but i did not think of any correlation between Kusa and them. All these mythologies make me think, that the ancient world was much smaller a place than the world of today, even without the high speed information sharing mediums. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 208 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
then who came from lava? Levites? | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3396 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
There was a big if in front of my statement That IF indeed Valmiki's Ramayana was only from Ayodhya kanda to Yudha Kanda - he followed the classic structure of a story - a problem-Ravana, a hero(Rama) and resolution of the problem ... The ending was Rama's conquest of Ravana and his coronation and everyone lives happily ever after Idi na perception kadu - that is the ending of Yuddha kanda isn't it ? Uttarakanda's Rama to my mind is dissonant with the Rama from Ayodhya kanda to Yuddha kanda That is why I am inclined to believe it was a sequel- without copyright maybe aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Iamim Comedian Username: Iamim Post Number: 1568 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.229.134 Rating: N/A |
MS garu.. My comments were just half in jest.. Anyway.. coming to speculations and theories.. Can we really be undecided?? As of now everyone has some theory or the other.. as of now that is what they are decided on.. of course.. tomorrow opinions can surely change.. Ramudu ki blond hair blue eyes unnattu ekkada cheppaledu anukunta.. Ethiopia has a rich ancient history.. and they were tall and dark and strong.. that will fit Rama very well.. Ethiopians call themselves descendants of Cushities.. could be Rama's son Kusa.. PS: MS garu.. your debating is clean and neat.. you are a role model for any new DBers... | ||
| Iamim Comedian Username: Iamim Post Number: 1567 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.229.134 Rating: N/A |
Valmiki em conceive chesedo meerela perceive cheseru?? Anyway.. Uttarakanda nalanti puritanic misogynist evaro rasuntaru... | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3395 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: |
Well said If indeed Uttarakanda was a later addition to Ramayana - and was not part of the original epic - whoever wrote the last part did a disservice to Valmiki. Uttarakanda added ambiguity to Rama's character...and destroyed the happy ending that Valmiki conceived... Uttarakanda just does not add up to the character that Valmiki builds up to Yudhdha kanda - could be a limitation of my understanding - but the Agni pariksha was moot if he was going to heed gossip and desert her, the cowardice of sending her away under deception and asking Lakshmana to do it,and like you said even the questions of was he aware he was God etc. As to the true sense - does anyone today know the true sense of the written word from the ancients - most of it is lost in translation - we have a dozen plus versions of Ramayana with many variations- and these have gone thru many revisions and versions - what we can make are best guesses of what was written based on our understanding of the time it was written in - all these are prone to significant error , even without accounting for the manipulation of history to meet society's needs BTW, mythology is as much at risk of being hijacked by the believers as it is at risk from the detractors They just skew it to opposing sides and truth must have been somewhere in the middle aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 962 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: |
Iamim garu, mee post evarini direct chesi vesaaro naaku ardham kaaledhu, but nothing is decided, no matter what we feel is the final answer(if at all we are looking for the final answer), there are instances that provide counter arguments. I feel, it is better to learn them, analyze them, preserve them. the need to learn is to make sure that some half baked hippie does not hijack the true sense of what is written. the need to analyze is to make sure, that we are not side tracked by what is written. the need to preserve is to make sure, the future generations does have a chance to learn them. vaati gurinchi kottukovalsina avasaram ledhani naa abhiprayam, mana maturity level allow chesinantha mathrame manam ardham chesukogalamu, ee vishayannaina, soo it is absurd to fight over such things right. a healthy discussion is always welcome, atleast it helps people like me to know more about things. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 207 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
Iamim Comedian Username: Iamim Post Number: 1171 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.226.224 Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 02:00 pm: Except simplistic words like karra thorra burra.. kalu velu tholu.. there are no pure Telugu words.. Telugu was a language of simple tribes who had no need for elaborate vocabulary... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ See the bapana dhoola and bapana betrayal. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 206 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
Iamim Comedian Username: Iamim Post Number: 1171 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.226.224 Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 02:00 pm: Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Except simplistic words like karra thorra burra.. kalu velu tholu.. there are no pure Telugu words.. Telugu was a language of simple tribes who had no need for elaborate vocabulary... ++++ See the bapana dhoola and bapana betrayal. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 205 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
I only object to bapanism and bapana dhoola , but not to bapans perse | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 204 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
where did I say bapans are shiva haters or Indra lickers? dont side track the topic | ||
| Iamim Comedian Username: Iamim Post Number: 1553 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.230.40 Rating: N/A |
Have some consideration towards Sopathi brother.. he hates Brahmans.. but not Brahmanism.. He only motto is: Chesthe Meme Cheyyala... | ||
| Iamim Comedian Username: Iamim Post Number: 1550 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.230.40 Rating: N/A |
So... finally Ramudu Arabbi kadu Aryan Viking ani decide chesera.. manchidi... | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3382 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: |
Himalayas lo unde anni ancient shrines are Shiva temples - Amarnath, Kedarnath down to Kashi Vishwanath - and the pandits in Kashmir have predominantly been Shiva and Shakti (Vaishnodevi) devotees..they are all brahmins aren't they ? Hinduism evolved either sequentially or parallelly from Shaivism and Shaktism to include Vaishnavism, a later entry - I say that by referential history - Shiva Shakti literature has no mention of Vaishnav deities that I know of but Vaishnavism has Shiva/Shakti prominently featured in it... So this whole racial conspiracy theory that you are perpetrating does not bear out ... And I understood Rudra to be Shiva too - so meeku time dorikinappudu aa links evo iste I would like to read it up .. aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 949 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
annai, in skandha parva, where ravana tries to get the shiva linga, ganesha gets him to do fire worship, and sandhya vandhanam.
well, we have never come to conclusion that havent we. i am not sure, how we can arrive to a conclusion that rakshasas are dravidians, when Rakshasas are descendants from pulasthya brahma.
irrespective of my belief, what i read about ravana at various places, ravana, as a rakshasa has magical powers, and his 10 heads symbolises, the knowledge of 10 sages, who were experts at the 4 vedas and 6 upanishads.
i can say the samething about dravidians, and i can assure you that you will never be able to convince me otherwise. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 201 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 63.119.227.6 Rating: N/A |
because incest was very common in early indo aryans. both rama and krishna and many vedic deities had incestous relationships. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 200 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 63.119.227.6 Rating: N/A |
I do not think so. moreover ravan doesnt seem to be bapan. he was made bapan by the bapan story writers. may be because it did not fit for a dravidian scholar to be educated and not be bapan as it violates manu dharma. do you also believe ravan had 10 heads? | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 948 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
Ravana does pray to Brahma and asks for Immortality. Brahma denies it and gives him amrutham, which is stored in his naval. Ravana also asks for strength not to be defeated by gods, demons or spirits. Rama who was born as a mortal eventually was able to kill him because of this boon.
how can you say that he did not perform aswa medha. even if he did not perform, it does not mean he has not done anything against any dharma.
he himself does fire worship, but he disturbs fire worship of other brahmins. there are accounts where he performs fire worship.
what does that have to do anything with any dharma? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 199 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 63.119.227.6 Rating: N/A |
he ordered to vanquish fire worship. he worshiped only shiva, the native indian dravidian phallus god. he did not carry on aryan practice, ashwa medha. he did not support incest. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 198 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 63.119.227.6 Rating: N/A |
he ordered to vanquish fire worship. he did not support incest. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 197 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 63.119.227.6 Rating: N/A |
he ordered to vanquish fire worship. he did not support incest. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 947 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
ravan, a rakshasa followed the aryan dharma right!!? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 946 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
persian aryans gods asuras ane claim ki definitive emi ledhu kadha. there is no definitive that rakshasas are dravidians either. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 196 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
rakshasas of other bapan literature never followed aryan dharma. asuras of rigveda followed aryan dharma and their lord is Indra. later asura became interchangeable with dravidians. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 945 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
its unfortunate that we do not have time to go through this. There are as many articles supporting and against each theory kadha annai. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 195 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
asuras in rigveda are not rakshashas. they are the gods for the persian aryans. but originally they are aryan dieties to begin with. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 944 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
i do not think so annai. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 194 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
dont mind... but its a big story. there are many articles about it. naaku ippudu time ledhu | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 943 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
annai, where does that say he is not rakshasa. i myself said he is one of the eight adityas. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 193 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
the asura in rig vedic context are not rakshashas. | ||
| Shawshank Comedian Username: Shawshank Post Number: 1907 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 67.173.43.248 Rating: N/A |
Plzzz .. neeku telisthe cheppu .. lekapothe maaneyyi .. enduku istam vachina raatalu rastavu? Shivudu ni Adi Devudu antaru .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva mari .. Bapans kooda Shivudini vipareetam ga kolustaru ga .. wat abt that? Strong Leader, Decisive Government - LK Advani (PM in waiting) Shaktishaali Bharat - Shaktishaali BhaJaPa | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 192 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
In Avesta, Mithra or Mehr (trans: love, sun) is the protector of the Aryan nation, giving victory to âthose who lie not unto Mithraâ He is the warrior deity carrying the âhundred knotted maceâ whom all demons flee in fear. In a Yashet 6 during a prayer to sun Mithra is mentioned again and refered to as a friend: â...I will sacrifice unto that friendship, the best of all friendships, that regins between the moon and the sunâ | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 942 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
ahura mazda himself is credited as varuna by many scholars. mitra and varuna are called ahuras in gathas. and the rest of the deities are called devas. in vedas, mitra and varuna are called asuras, and the rest of the deities are called devas. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 191 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
When the Aryan tribes swept down from the Russian steppes they brought their gods with them. Some time between 2000 and 1500 B.C.E., these tribes entered India and Iran, bringing with them one particular deity. These people, the Mitanni, gave us the first written reference to Mitra in a treaty between themselves and the Hittites. Signed about 1375 B.C.E., the treaty calls on divine witnesses to pledge its terms. The Hittites called on the sun go. The Mitanni called on Mitra. Mitra had been worshipped by the Iranians for centuries when Zarathustra (we call him Zoroaster, the Greek version of his name) founded the first revealed religion. Zarathustra announced the primacy of Ahura Mazda, the Wise Lord, who was served by the Amentas Spenta, or bounteous immortals. Among these was Mithra, whom Ahura Mazda declared to be "as worthy of worship as myself." Thus Zarathustrian reform did not replace Mithra in the Iranian Pantheon. It merely changed his role. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 190 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
mitra, varun. adityas are classic vedic gods mama... you can find them in ahura mazda also | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 941 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: |
annai, in my opinion, there is no bottom line annai, it is just what that we do not dig more than what we want to. we dig only to extent that satisfies what we want to believe in. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 189 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
but bapana dhoola troubles me  | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 940 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
varuna and mitra are dwandwa swaroopa, the two rakshasas who are among 8 adityas. and varuna is the chief of adityas. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 188 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
i am good bhikhu thammud | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 187 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
adhoka pedhdha story le mama. bottom line is that shiva is not vedic/aryan god. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 186 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
varun is a classic vedic god. he is not raakshasa. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 939 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
then who is rudra, and why is he not shiva?, when/how did rudra in other contexts become shiva? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 938 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: |
definite ga. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 937 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
yes he did, he did give rakshasas important roles as deities too. varuna devudu, inka i cannot remember on the top my head, there were alot of deities who are rakshasas. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1017 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Vammooo  Nidra potunna simhalani lepinattunna... Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 185 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
evari dhoola vaaridhi | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 184 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
there is mention of rudra. rudra is not shiva in the context of rigveda. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 182 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
I thought vishnu always fought with rakshashas. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 936 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
undhi annai, i can give you text where rig veda mentions shiva as a deity. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 181 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
there was no mention of shiva in the rig veda. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 180 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
ramayana only talks about arya dharma... never about hindu dharma... hindu as a word came into existence much later. rama beheaded shambuka because rama wanted to uphold arya dharma | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 935 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
evari ishtam varidhi kadha annai(if i a may call that). there are alot of telugus who are athiests too. there are a lot telugu's who dont care about all this dravida, arya stuff either. evari dhorani valladhi kadha the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Getafix Comedian Username: Getafix Post Number: 1895 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
yaa..thappu chesaru mana historians ikkade.. etlagu stories cooking up chesthunnappudu.. all rakshasas were followers of some other religion ani raaseyalsindi.. Quran lo laga. Ee soft corner hindu historians valle manalo manam kottukasasthunnam. I suppose I do have one unembarrassed passion. I want to know what it feels like to care about something passionately. - Susan Orlean(Character) | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 934 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
then why do vedas proclaim shiva as a powerful diety. why does brahma/vishnu give boons to all rakshasas that put vedic gods at peril? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 933 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
Dravida_ghajini_gaadu garu, sorry i was looking for answers from you, as you are the one propagating, the brahmin were against dravidians. then how come they made ravana a brahmin? i am also looking for answers to these questions, how can a bapan rule a kingdom? how can members of ravana kingdom create obstructions to fire(aryan) worship if ravan himself is a bapan? according to the questions, either ravana is not a brahmin or bapan, or he is one. if he is not a brahmin why is he worshipped, as one of the most devout disciple of lord shiva. how could he gain the 10 heads, which symbolise 4 vedas and six upanishads. if he is a bramin, how come he let his subordinates, go against the fire worship of brahmins? indeed interesting the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 179 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
how come all the rakshashas believed in shiva(the native god) and how come shiva had a soft corner for rakshashas? why were rakshashas against vedic gods but not against shiva? | ||
| Shawshank Comedian Username: Shawshank Post Number: 1905 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 24.14.122.255 Rating: N/A |
sorry .. confuse ayyanu .. Strong Leader, Decisive Government - LK Advani (PM in waiting) Shaktishaali Bharat - Shaktishaali BhaJaPa | ||
| Bhikhu Side Hero Username: Bhikhu Post Number: 2073 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 148.129.74.40 Rating: N/A |
Sopati tamud h r u | ||
| Shawshank Comedian Username: Shawshank Post Number: 1904 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 24.14.122.255 Rating: N/A |
Ramayanam chadivava?  Strong Leader, Decisive Government - LK Advani (PM in waiting) Shaktishaali Bharat - Shaktishaali BhaJaPa | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 178 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
no I am talking about telugu dogs. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 177 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
dont take sollu bapan literature word to word. bapans made ravana a bapan for their own interests. how can a bapan rule a kingdom? how can members of ravana kingdom create obstructions to fire(aryan) worship if ravan himself is a bapan? | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 932 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
shawshank brother, my response was for this statement, no historical epic has the villians composed of different racial characteristics. in ramayana, the villians are definitely of different racial and cultural characteristics. rama rajya = racist rajya villain here being Ravana the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Shawshank Comedian Username: Shawshank Post Number: 1903 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 24.14.122.255 Rating: N/A |
Anna, he is talking about this incident. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shambuka Meeku Virodhi Nama Samvatsara Subhakankshalu Strong Leader, Decisive Government - LK Advani (PM in waiting) Shaktishaali Bharat - Shaktishaali BhaJaPa | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 928 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
if you are talking of vali, he is the son of Indira, is he not? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 927 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
Dravida ghajini garu, What about Ravana? was he a dravidian? if he is a dravidian, how was he a brahmin? if he was not a brahmin, how was he allowed to study? Ravana, was the brother of kubera right!!? if he was a sudra or a dravidian how was his ravana sanhitha considered a supreme source on ayurveda? how was he allowed to do a penance, if he was a dravidian, and there was animosity based on racial backgrounds. I am yet to see a scriputre on ravana, written by brahmins that degrade him as a person. if you have any such sources i will be glad to look at them. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 121 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
evari pandaga, evariki pandaga ani response vasthundemo | ||
| Shawshank Comedian Username: Shawshank Post Number: 1898 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 67.173.43.248 Rating: N/A |
Ugadi Subhakankshalu .. Pandaga poota aina chedu matladaku .. taravata nee istam .. Strong Leader, Decisive Government - LK Advani (PM in waiting) Shaktishaali Bharat - Shaktishaali BhaJaPa | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 176 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: |
how can south indian monkeys pray to rama who beheaded a shudra shambuka because shambuka started to learn and read. | ||
| Shawshank Comedian Username: Shawshank Post Number: 1894 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 67.173.43.248 Rating: N/A |
many .. lets not divert the thread .. lets just talk about Rama .. that is enough ! Strong Leader, Decisive Government - LK Advani (PM in waiting) Shaktishaali Bharat - Shaktishaali BhaJaPa | ||
| Jalsa Side Hero Username: Jalsa Post Number: 3134 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.115.29.189 Rating: N/A |
indhakati post choostey idhey meaning aa kaadha anukunnanu. who else is like this? Pavala HATER | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 175 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: |
and also balls to bapan literature. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 174 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: |
aha.... neeku nuvveh nannu hindu critic anuta yendhi ra? where did I critisize hinduism? but yes balls to rama. | ||
| Shawshank Comedian Username: Shawshank Post Number: 1893 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 67.173.43.248 Rating: N/A |
 Strong Leader, Decisive Government - LK Advani (PM in waiting) Shaktishaali Bharat - Shaktishaali BhaJaPa | ||
| Shawshank Comedian Username: Shawshank Post Number: 1892 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 67.173.43.248 Rating: N/A |
gatha agenda andariki telisinde bro .. kakapothe ikkada .. only gatha kadu .. there are many "like minds". So .. enta mandini ban chestaru? To me, the more I see a Hindu critic, the more I get strengthened. Strong Leader, Decisive Government - LK Advani (PM in waiting) Shaktishaali Bharat - Shaktishaali BhaJaPa | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 173 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: |
homo sapiens appeared only 50K years back bro dont believe these racist bapan sollu puranas. | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 118 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
what is the guarantee that it wont change with some other findings in a later time. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 172 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: |
there are many flavours of ramayana. in some of them its clearly mentioned that rama is brother varasa of seetha... i dont remember the exact version of ramayana bro | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 171 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: |
yemi source ahe... nee source ni kukkalu denga | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 117 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
I heard some christians saying this.. is there any proof for this? btw.. beerakaaya peechu relations count cheyyadam start chesthe konni relations vinthaga untaayi, oka varasalo, bava-maradallu, inko varasalo babai-ammayi avuthaaru | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 170 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: |
anna, 10 lakh years back even homo sapiens did not appear. dont believe bapan sollu puranas. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 169 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: |
who can be more ugly than a thinna inti vaasaalu lekka pette bapan fanatic? | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 116 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
saradaga - emo brother, appatiki nenu putta ledu rama ki help chesinadi vaanaraale kada. | ||
| Jalsa Side Hero Username: Jalsa Post Number: 3133 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.115.29.189 Rating: N/A |
Gatha thammi, source enti antey cheppakunda gaali statements isthunnavu. Shawshank, this would be my last reply to Gatha's posts. Pavala HATER | ||
| Shawshank Comedian Username: Shawshank Post Number: 1890 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 67.173.43.248 Rating: N/A |
Do you know which is a pervert mind .. Looking your previous post, now I know how ugly it is ! Strong Leader, Decisive Government - LK Advani (PM in waiting) Shaktishaali Bharat - Shaktishaali BhaJaPa | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 168 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: |
no historical epic has the villians composed of different racial characteristics. in ramayana, the villians are definitely of different racial and cultural characteristics. rama rajya = racist rajya | ||
| Shawshank Comedian Username: Shawshank Post Number: 1889 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 67.173.43.248 Rating: N/A |
Plzzz .. dont .. I want to see the ugly faces who think alike ! Strong Leader, Decisive Government - LK Advani (PM in waiting) Shaktishaali Bharat - Shaktishaali BhaJaPa | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 167 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: |
coward.... face the truth. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 166 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: |
it seems aryan bhayyas are superior... they made south indian monkeys pray to the hero of the aryan cause. | ||
| Jalsa Side Hero Username: Jalsa Post Number: 3132 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.115.29.189 Rating: N/A |
WTF?????/// Ban Gatha! Pavala HATER | ||
| Shawshank Comedian Username: Shawshank Post Number: 1888 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 67.173.43.248 Rating: N/A |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVCQh0a6qlQ Strong Leader, Decisive Government - LK Advani (PM in waiting) Shaktishaali Bharat - Shaktishaali BhaJaPa | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 165 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: |
ram even married his own sister seetha. incest was common in the early indo aryans. |
