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     Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 164 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: |
true. bapans did that as literature was their sole property in those days. | ||
| Jalsa Side Hero Username: Jalsa Post Number: 3131 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.115.29.189 Rating: N/A |
Gatha, what is the source for your statement? Pavala HATER | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 163 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: N/A |
10 lakh years back even human did not form from monkeys. | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 162 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.55.212.131 Rating: |
yevadura aryan licker naa post ki onti sukka yesindhi... nenu jeppindhi 100% correct. | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 115 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: |
I remember that discussion and dont remember thammudu gaaru ever accepting ramayana as fiction. more over as per thammudu ramayana happend more than 10lakhs years back, not around 3500 or 5000 BC. | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 114 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: |
lava-kusa perigindi valmiki asramama lo kada. valmiki ki seetha devi kante manchi source evaru untaaru ramuni jeevitham gurinchi cheppadaaniki, if we believe valmiki ki emi super-natural powers levu, maamulu normal writter anukunna. | ||
| Jalsa Side Hero Username: Jalsa Post Number: 3126 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.115.29.189 Rating: N/A |
me knowledge ki johaarlu! Pavala HATER | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 113 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
I seriously doubt if it was in original version of valmiki. 2000 years back jarigina jesus story/bible lo ne enno koorpulu/cherpulu (ref: who wrote the bible), inka anthakante entho mundu jarigina raamayana/mahabhaarathaalu entha mandi kavithvaaniki, kapithvaaniki bali ayyi untaayo kada. manam manaki telisina manam anukune dharmaalu, nyaayalu ane vaati tho elaa aite raamayana/mahabhaarathalani choosthunnamo, alaane mana previous generations kooda choosi, nacchani vaatini peeki, kavalsina vaatini koorchi undavacchu kada. | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 112 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
rama suffered as a human being for the actions he had to take as king. seetha devi ki vellipoammani chebithe, thanu pade badha choodaleka pothaanemo ani cheppaka poyi undocchu kadha. simple terms lo, kids ki bayata ki velletappudu edusthaaru ani edo oka maaya maata cheppi velthuntaaru kada. similar lines lo alochinchandi. nailu nadee naagarakithao samanyudi jeevinamettido, alaane ramarajyam lo janam elaa unnaro manaki telisindi thakkuva, kaani manaki telisinanthalo atleast raaju ane vaadu parajabhaprayaani ki viluvanichhevaadu ani telusthundi kada. more over appati aachaara vyavahaaraalu (cj babai bashalo yuga dharmam) prakaaram, more than one wife undadam chaala normal. avakaasam and avasaram undi kooda rama second marriage ki vella ledu kada. | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 111 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: |
the birth of rama is beyond my apprehension as the births of kourava's who were kept in pots as fetus with herbs and ghee for two years. test tube baby ani oka 100 years back chepthe janaalu ela choosavallo voohinchukondi. | ||
| Shawshank Comedian Username: Shawshank Post Number: 1886 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 67.173.43.248 Rating: N/A |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0s0anVD104 Strong Leader, Decisive Government - LK Advani (PM in waiting)  Shaktishaali Bharat - Shaktishaali BhaJaPa | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3381 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: |
LOL -Jai Shri Ram, Jai bajrang bali, Jai Shri Krishna, Jai Shiv Shankar, Jai Mata di anni antanu kani thread close cheyyatam enduku ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Bhikhu Side Hero Username: Bhikhu Post Number: 2064 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 148.129.74.40 Rating: N/A |
eti avutondi ikkada Anand garu oka sari 'Jai Shri Ram' ani thed close seyandi | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3380 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Naku telisi he was in exile - not captivity aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 925 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
sugreeva was inactive as he was in captivity. wasnt it? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 924 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: |
mr hyderabad garu, meeru lakshman and seetha conversation chadivaara? what goes in that converstation meeku thelisthe post cheyandi, I have read it a while back, and it will take time to write it back here. meeru adigina question ki nenu emani answer immantaro cheppandi, as that question bears a hint of sarcasm in it, if not, answer yes his brother's order is top priority, and he does try not to budge it, but he budges, and he also repents for it. MrHyderbad garu, I also want to add the way i treat these mythologies is that, they are correct in the time, and situational context they are talking about. If there is something that is not making sense, i feel that there is something we are lacking in understanding the actual scenario. Now, not this just because i am a hindu, i do treat mythologies from other religions in the same way too. these mythologies in my view provide a window for understanding the way of life in those periods of time, whether they actually happend or not. Coming to Rama, is he a maryada purushotham, yes he is a maryadha purushotham by the standards of ways of life of ramayana era. if he does not appear so, it means that there is high chance that we are not understanding why he is not so. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3379 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Political expediency ani ee thread lo na first post lo anduke annanu... Sugreeva was incapable so he did not stop it .. Jatayu was incapable still he fought.. Vali was capable and did not choose to fight because he did not see it as his battle... Jatayu is shown as an example , but Sugreeva's inaction is excused... is that not abetting too ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3378 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
That may not be relevant - cos the all our scriptures assume a longer lifespan - the four ashramas are not divided within the 25 years... Again, the point I was making is not that Ramayana is fictional - I am theorising it talks of a land outside the India we know aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1016 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Lakshman ki andari kante ANNA order top priority anukunta kadaa? Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 923 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
lakshmana also puts forth the same feeling to seetha, he does insist that he should not leave seetha alone, but seetha makes him(or forces him to) go. and that according to me is a legitimate reason for not following his dharma, though i know others not might not agree with me. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1014 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Another important point: Asalu aa time lo average life expectany of humans was less than 25 (As per scientific evidences)!! Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 922 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
that definetly is a viable argument. there are some greek myths in akin to atlantis, which relates to some stories in ramayana too. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1013 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Seeta apaharanam ni nirodhinchaka povadam Vali chesina tappidam ayithe... Mari Seeta ki raksha ga vundamani anna cheppina maata vinakunda ontari ga vadili vellina Lakshmanudu kuda tana DHARMAM nirvarthincha leka poyinatte kadaa ? (Anna ki aapada ani velladu anukovachu, but still DHARMAM tappinatte kadaa?) Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3377 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
I am not questioning it was there in puranas - aa puranam eppudu compose chesaru ani alochistunna Srimad Bhagavatam lo describe chesina path of the Sun on the horizon is only visible in the arctic circle anta... Eppudo Vivek edo discussion lo Ramudu time lo 8 foot Aajanubaahulu ani cheppadu - aa physical traits were there for the Vikings and the Arctic people not for the native dwellers of the Indian subcontinent as we know it... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 921 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: |
mallik anna, i do not remember exactly what rama says to vali, kaani it goes on the account that.. the thing that struck most to me is rama promises sugriva that rama will kill Vali even before the war starts. so vali's faith is pretty much sealed. was liable to get killed, did he do something that has offended rama ani naku ardham kaledhu. but later i understood this, âIf you think it is legitimate, tell me howâ, says Vali before he collapses.So the issue now centres around whether Rama considered the non-rising to the occasion of Vali asan offence. The answer is yes, going by what Rama says in the beginning and at the end of his defence. Rama replies that He had been perfectly dharmic in what He had done by having done that in the land belonging to Ikshvahu dynasty (He says that the entire Bhoo mandalam is under His dynasty (Ram Rajya?)) By this does He point out to Vali that he had failed to carry out the dharma in his (Valiâs) land? Vali spoke of all Raj-dharma that included protecting the dharmain oneâs land and punishing the offenders. Did he follow that Raj-dharma? He knew that Sita had been abducted. He knew the one who had abducted her was once defeated by him. He was more valiant than the abductor and could have easily overpowered him if he had made an attempt. Further the abduction was carried out in a land that belonged to beings like him. And Sita was carried across his kingdom.Sugreeva had seen the abduction. So did Vali.Sugreeva did not do anything to stop it, he being incapable of doing that. But Vali could have stopped it, he being capable and in his capacity as a king who has to stop crimes in his land and punish the offenders.Vali had known that Sita had been abducted and as a king must have been well aware that she had been carried right across his land. But he didnât do anything about it, despite being powerful enough to stop it or restore her. He didnât do anything later -to even go after Ravana for having unauthorisedly crossed his land and committed a crime. Rama didnât wait for Bharathaâs command to execute Raj-dharma.For whose command did Vali wait to go after Ravana?Or for that matter for whose command the bird, Jatayu waited to take on Ravana? The sense of duty that a pakshi (bird) had, a monkey king didnât have.Vali need not have offended Rama directly. But that he had failed in his duty has indirectly offended Rama. By remaining passive, he has allowed Ravana get away with Sita across his territory. This passiveness amounts to assisting the crime which in todayâs jargonis known as abetting. The one who turns away his face when a crime is being committed is not spared by law of any land. He, as an abettor is liable for punishment equivalent to that awarded for the actual crime committed. By his act of abetting and by being indifferent in his duty as a king, Vali has offended Rama. mallik anna, this does not still satisfy the question why did he hit him indirectly, he hits vali in the chest from behind a tree, does the indirect hit mean, that the crime that vali committed is an indirect crime!!? was it a legitimate way of dharma in those days? ivanni is up for dicussion. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1012 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
RAMAYANAM lo pidakala veta  Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| One Side Hero Username: One Post Number: 7696 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 76.184.165.237 Rating: N/A |
emi jarguthundi ikkada Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go | ||
| Mallik Side Hero Username: Mallik Post Number: 3873 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 162.116.29.69 Rating: N/A |
By stating what? Mullu ni mullu thone theeshnaa anaa  ..In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 920 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
Anand garu, i might be totally wrong here, but in Brahmavaivarta Purana, where the story of indira being taught a lesson by brahma and vishnu for asking viswakarma to build a un ending city, did it not state that brahma and vishnu were eternal, while indira is there for universe that is being created at the blink of brahma? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3376 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Deeniki mana dasavatarale proof kada aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1010 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
I think GOD has also EVOLVED along with human beings over the time  Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 918 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
Anand garu, i am talking from a neutral perspective. An action might not be a crime to the person peforming the Dharma(like a terrorist feels of his job), but his act is a crime to us. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 917 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
mallik anna, nenu murder gurinche matladuthunna anna. Like a spy killing an opponent in not a direct combat but by any other means. the same happend in the case of vali kadha. kishkindha falls under the kingdom of iskhvaku, and Ravana, takes away seetha from kishinkindha, and the king of kishkindha is vali. Vali knew very well that ravana has abducted seetha, but vali, even though possessed the power to go against ravana and bring back seetha, did not take any action against him. so in a way his silence made him a part of the crime that has happend. and later when vali confronts rama about the way he killed him, rama convinces him that he has performed his dharma, while vali realizes that he did not perform his dharma, and hence accepts what happend to him. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3375 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
And I mean this withing India - I have my own thoughts that it originated way higher closer to the North Pole aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3374 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Oxymoron Dharma ayite crima kadu and vice versa - there is no ethical crime ( I am not talking legalities here) Karma -free will : you are right - it is a very long and convoluted discussion ...
Which purana is this from ? I am looking at it from a historical perspective and it is fascinating how the theology developed .. If Rigveda is indeed the oldest scriptue and does not give importance to Vishnu , when and where ( I believe the answer to this is the Gangetic plain) did Vaishnavism take root and flourish ? The avataras are later addendums to Vishnu anukuntunna ... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1009 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Alaa ayithe, inka Ravan tho DHARMA YUDHAM enduku? Rama should have killed the Ravan directly. After all, he is THE GOD. Even if he GOD (or his incarnation) has to kill Dushta, he still needs to follow some basic DHARMAs. That's what they are supposedly did in all those puranas, right? Killed the bad guys in Dharma Yudhams. Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Mallik Side Hero Username: Mallik Post Number: 3869 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 162.116.29.69 Rating: N/A |
If you kill a person in a war, you dont call it 'murder' and hence its is not a crime. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 916 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
Anand garu, Karma theory use chesina kaani there is still the question of Dharma, was it your Dharma to commit a crime. A murder by a person in war is his Dharma, and is not wrong according to Dharma, but still in a sense it is still a crime. The consequence of a crime, is a part of karma to right, a person who committed a crime, and the punishment he acrues with it through legal systems, is also part of his own Karma right!!? free will and karma madhya line geeyali ante, i dont think have enough maturity to talk about such stuff.
Vishnu was always a supreme lord, and Indra was equally powerful. But once his vajrayudha, made of bones of sage Dadhuchi, started loosing its strength, Vishnu, and Shiva were given supreme roles. and Indra was restricted to weather god, and king of demi gods. Also, Indira the ruler is not relatively eternal as Brahma, Vishnu and maheshwara are. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3371 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Aha - this is what I was looking for But I need the source Another interesting discussion is when and how Vishnu became the primary deity of Hinduism - because the Rigveda does not mention Vishnu I believe - Indra , Brahmanaspati(Ganesha) , Varuna , Rudra(Shiva) and Agni are the primary deities - chadivina vallu correct cheyyandi if I am wrong aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3370 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Totally agree that we cannot use today's yardsticks to measure yesterday's actions and conversely we cannot use yesterday's yardstick to measure today's actions ( my never-ending debate with the sri ram sena supporters )
Now we are getting into even more grey terrain - Karma theory token use cheste all crimes become an act of God if it was the victims' karma to suffer ? Where do you draw the line ? Where is the distinction between Karma and free will(if such a thing exists ) aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1007 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Exactly. Quoting it again from valmiki ramayan website: While stabilizing the original text of Ramayana, historians surmised that portions of two Books [Kaandas], namely Book I, Bala Kaanda and Book VII, Uttara Ramayana (not listed above) are later additions - The first and the last Books of the Ramayana are later additions. {The bulk, consisting of Books II--VI, represents Rama as an ideal hero.} In Books I and VII, however Rama is made an avatara or incarnation of Vishnu. Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 915 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
mallik anna, endhuku naaku ee ragging!!!? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 914 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
Anand garu, that is what confuses me too. Ramudu avathaara purushudu ani thanaki thelusa ledha ani. In some cases it appears to me that he knows it, and some cases it does not. I am not arguing whether what Rama did is right or wrong, or should we consider him as our role model, i feel it should be left to the individual. My point of argument, can we use todays yardsticks measure yesterdays actions? How correct is to use such kind of units of measurements anedhi naa argument. in a way his actions were human, as he killed that person with his hands, but not by giving him a heart attack(hehe for lack of a better way to describe a natural death). Kaani, is he supposed to do it? anedhi argue cheyali ante, is it possible for us to come to conclusion, when we consider the karma cycle of life and death, where previous life deeds take effect in your present course of life. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1006 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Indus Valley - 2500 - 1500 BC anukunta Maha bharath - 3200 BC There are few articles by some reputed scholars who even dated Maha bharath war and Krishna's DOB etc I am not sure if they are true or not :-) Similarly Ramayan is supposed to have happened (if it did) in 7200 BC Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Mallik Side Hero Username: Mallik Post Number: 3862 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 162.116.29.69 Rating: N/A |
Mari chettenka daakkoni vaali ni champinappudu? In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3369 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
God ante evariki problem ledu , problem is in how Rama is projected. All of Rama's actions are supposed to be "human" since purportedly he had no awareness that he was God - and his behavior is shown as an example - then the yardstick for measurement changes aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 913 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: |
Dharma anedhi meeru mari generic ga chepthunaaru. The Dharma i am talking about is the Dharma of individual in various roles. Dharma of an individual as a husband, Dharma of individual as a king, Dharma of individual as a Son, Dharma of individual as a brother, Dharma of individual as a wife. These Dharma are not the same in time ani naa udhesam. Meeru inka naaku difference cheppaledhu, Rama, tapassu chesthunappudu champatam lo, nidra lo oka manishi chanipovatam lo theda emi undhi, when Rama is the GOD. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3368 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Indus valley civilisation verus Ramayana Bharata chronology unda mee deggira ? Indus Valley civilisation is pre-vedic ane theory undi... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 912 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
I have no clue what the basis for the Ayodhya riots is. I am not telling you where Ramayan and Maha Bharatha happend. Alanti proof ippatiki ledhu, if they were proven as historical facts, i guess we would not be having these issues. Jambu Dweepam descriptions use chesi, alot of historians tried to identify the structure of Jambu Dweepam. In most picturisations India is just a part of the dweepam. The words Arabia, stems out of the Arwa, which in turn stems of out the word Aswa. And most historians believe that horses were brought into the rest of the dweepam from this place. The mythical Saraswathi river that we come across in our scriptures, by most analysts falls around in afghanisthan. Also, there are theories that Lahore is the lav pur, which was later ruled by lava, son or Rama. There are both contradicting, and supporting clues and theories to various other locations. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1005 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
I think it is same anyday... Dushta sikshna, Sishta Rakshana !!
GOOD should always be good for infinite time. Rama killed Ravana (dushta) as per DHARMA. It still stands good as of today's standards. Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1004 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
You are telling me that, Ramayan and Maha Bharath might have happened outside India? So much for Ayodhya riots  Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3367 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Now you are opening a can of worms Do you remember the question I asked on Srimad Bhagavatam ...aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 911 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
your assumption is that they happend in India!!? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 909 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: |
Rama, avathara purushudu, is a God. anedhi true ayithe, he killing a man when doing a penance without warning, or the man dieing naturally(life being taken by a God) in sleep or while doing penance ki difference emi undho cheppagalara. broader sense lo god has taken the life of that person, without a warning. Dharma of Rama was to kill him, and Dharma of yesterday is not the Dharma of today. killing a person of any stature might not be right according to Dharma of today, but it might not be the case of yesterday. Looking mythology according to todays perspection is a lot skewed in my view. Yesterday Dharma, wife and husband are equals in a family, especially when multiple marriages are not wrong according to the Dharma. But ivalti Dharmam prakaram adhi thappu ani manaki anipisthundhi. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1003 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
I will give you a small clue... you can think in that angle and decide for yourself. Ramayan, Maha bharath jarigina time scale (approx) in history lo choosthe... Appati Civilization ki ee stories lo depict chesina daaniki no relation at all. Aa time lo India lo HORSEs levu (which were referenced heavily in those stories), India lo appati population and cities developments etc levu.. there may be some remote colonies etc I can quote more details if you want to disco... Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Mrhyderabad Comedian Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 1002 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Indulo meeku tappu kanapadaka pothe nenu inka em chebuthaa? Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3366 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: |
I am a little skeptical on this ...you can prove something happened but you cannot prove it did not happen ... Where truth ends and fiction starts is anybody's guess.. My take is they were written, kind of like moral science fables - as a guide for society to follow..they may have taken existing characters and embellished them ... I agree with Iamim garu's statement below... "I think that was what the intention of Ramayana.. as with all mythologies.. naturally a bit bombastic and hyperbolic..." History tends to do that - just like Gandhi has no flaws per history text books aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 908 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
MrHyderabad garu, please elaborate on what is wrong in >>Tapassu chesukuntunna person ni teliyakunda, warning ivvakunda behead cheyyadam enti? Tapassu viraminchu ani request cheyyochu or as a king order cheyyochu kadaa... direct gaa behead cheyyadam ye dharmam kinda vasthundi? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 999 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
While stabilizing the original text of Ramayana, historians surmised that portions of two Books [Kaandas], namely Book I, Bala Kaanda and Book VII, Uttara Ramayana (not listed above) are later additions - "The first and the last Books of the Ramayana are later additions. Source: http://www.valmikiramayan.net/ So there is NO solid proof that Valmiki DIDN'T write Uttarakanda. He might or might not have written ... If you guys say "Uttarakanda" is NOT official Valmiki version, then you should remove "Balakanda" which is also not Valmiki version as per above article. Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 998 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Asalu Ramayanam, Maha Bharatham true stories kaavu.. just fictional stories or at the best overly dramatized versions of some local incidents ani intaku mundu TIDB lo Thammudu brother tho oka thread lo proov chesaa Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3365 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Manamu discuss chesedi mythology - there are a lot of myths about this mythology itself so better to stick to one accepted version
Ramayana raasindi sanskrit lo kada aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 997 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Ila prati daaniki source, proof ante etta andi?  This particular statement is from Wiki Valmiki Ramayanam official website lo kuda ide annattu gurthu,... let me find it. Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Mallik Side Hero Username: Mallik Post Number: 3848 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 162.116.29.69 Rating: N/A |
Yep.. he is the one.. Parushuramudu anandi andy gaaru.. chakkagaa telugu bhaasha lo.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 996 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Villu ethali anedi test. Kakapothe mana ramula vaaru villu paiki ethi, daani thread mudi vesthunte adi pela pela mani virigipotundi. Akkada vachina vaallu antha lift cheyyadanike kashta padithe, ramula vaaru lifting chesi, breaking kuda chesaaru ani Valmiki ramuni prasthuthincharu. Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3364 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Source please aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 995 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Rama returns to Ayodhya and is crowned as king. He rules as a just king for several decades. The following story is called as Uttara-kanda. There is an argument that this subsequent story was not written by Valmiki, but by Tulsidas. Uttara-Kanda mentions that this story was written by Valmiki based on his forecast of Ram and Sita's life Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Sirivennela Junior Artist Username: Sirivennela Post Number: 111 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 68.38.157.109 Rating: N/A |
haa its parashurama.. ok..villu ethi ekku petti viraggottala..hmm..ekkupettadam varake vinna intaku mundu..ok then | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3363 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: |
Sri Ram sena ki confession letter rayandi - that you violated Hindutva/ Hindu dharma aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3362 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
Parashurama aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Bhikhu Side Hero Username: Bhikhu Post Number: 2053 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 148.129.74.40 Rating: |
Anandgaru tappu jargindi eti seyali | ||
| Mallik Side Hero Username: Mallik Post Number: 3843 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 162.116.29.69 Rating: N/A |
Villu nu ethhi, ekku petti iraggottaali.. adhi Shiva dhanassu ankuntaa and some rushi (kopishti, peru yaad marshini) ettutaadu and Sitamma ettutdai when playing some ball game.. sitamma ettadam sooshi andariki mind block aithadi.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Cinejeevi Junior Artist Username: Cinejeevi Post Number: 888 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 65.244.125.146 Rating: |
Hyd garu ambedkar virachita raamayaNam quote chesi aDugutunnar.. nannu turakolla devudi gurinchi raayamante stree lOluDu, durmarguDu ane raasta.. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3360 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.110.236 Rating: N/A |
I think this is very questionable.. Valmiki Ramayana starts with Ayodhya kanda and ends with Yuddha kanda ani chadivinattu gurtu. Uttarakanda was an enhancement later So Valmiki does not talk about Ramarajya at all..
This rings a jarring note... simply by linguistic reference.. Zenana is an urdu/persian word... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Sirivennela Junior Artist Username: Sirivennela Post Number: 110 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 68.38.157.109 Rating: N/A |
naku kuda oka doubt ... ammavariki swayamvaram apudu pettina condition enti? villu ethamanaa? leka vinchamanaa? ramudu villu ethi ..danni viraggodatadu anta kadaa? endukala..ramudu ethesariki adi viriginda.. konchem lite veyandi.. | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3359 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150 Rating: |
No I am a very strong believer..However , I am not God-fearing ...because I look at God as my guide not a punishing authority aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 906 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
Can you also explain why it is wrong? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 992 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: |
How is Brahmin boy's life more valuable than Sambuka's life? Everyone should be equal in King's rule, right? Especially in RAMA RAJYAM !! Idena Dharma 4 paadala meeda nadavadam ante? Tapassu chesukuntunna person ni teliyakunda, warning ivvakunda behead cheyyadam enti? Tapassu viraminchu ani request cheyyochu or as a king order cheyyochu kadaa... direct gaa behead cheyyadam ye dharmam kinda vasthundi? Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Neeankamma007 Junior Artist Username: Neeankamma007 Post Number: 11 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 207.126.177.38 Rating: |
Rama's birth is not questionable so as Panadavas. Unlike Jesus, Rama, Krishna are the gods not represntatives. Their life is devine so noone can question their lives. If you compare Jesus, Allah life to Rama's life. Rama, Krishna and all his Avatharas are from of supreme god. You will be amazed to find that Rama's character several times better. My advise is to you is try to look in to good qualities dont think too much into what is written. | ||
| Razesh Hero Username: Razesh Post Number: 19817 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 59.164.70.129 Rating: |
akka... are u atheist ? | ||
| Cinejeevi Junior Artist Username: Cinejeevi Post Number: 883 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 65.244.125.146 Rating: |
nenu inka out of this thread and will continue some other time. idi information ani modalayyi, discussion gaa mari, teevravaadam vepu mallindi. sambookudini champesaaru dasarodi cinemalo paata ni chooinchi rama is not fit as king anTe emi cheptam. appati yugadharmam prakaraam ataniki tapassu arhata ledu. dani valana oka baaluDu akala maraNam chendaaDu. anduke ataDini vadhinchalsi vachchindi. ade champindi brahmin and chanipoina baaludu sc/st aite ee gola unDedi kaaademo IMO | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3358 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150 Rating: |
Vallaki okka devudu unnadu - anduke evaru emi anadu...God is supreme ante. Hinduism lo we attribute different human qualities to Gods - and each has his/her own traits- Hinduism start ayyina deggiranunchi deities supremacy discussion kuda jarugutune undi - Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smarthism lo andaru pakkana vatini question cheyyatam and eveolve avvatam is part and parcel of Hinduism, and I would say the greatness of Hinduism comes from this very diversity of belief... So ee roju vachi meeru "evaru question cheyyakudadu" anedi against Hindu Dharma ani nenu ante meeru refute cheyyaleru anukunta ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 991 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: |
ee story ayithe maree daarunam... i only heard abt it recently. ilaanti horrific stories kuda post chesthe inka nannu PERM gaa ban chestharu DB lo Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Junior Artist Username: Dravida_ghajini_gaadu Post Number: 161 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 75.60.29.227 Rating: |
Ram is not a god. He is an allegorical symbol of aryans vanquishing dravidians in north india and driving them away. but we pray to this aryan fanatic who beheaded shambuka. | ||
| Iamim Comedian Username: Iamim Post Number: 1543 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.227.111 Rating: N/A |
Absolutely right.. ideally that should be the way.. due to British rule and western influence Indians have been culturally corrupted and morally bankrupted.. anyone who visits Saudi will understand how it is a heaven on earth.. God blesses those who are righteous.. Arabs have been blessed by God for the same.. | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 989 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: |
Vallatho comparision enduku le mama. Vaallu Jihad antaaru ani manam nerchukuntama? Ikkada evaru tittadam ledu... i am merely posting some questions and startling facts which i myself learned recently. I have posted a note in the 1st post for sensitive religious believers. Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Iamim Comedian Username: Iamim Post Number: 1538 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.227.111 Rating: |
For sake of friendship.. All blots on Rama were for the sake of something or the other.. not for himself.. Rama was never selfish.. maybe he was not his own man.. he lived and died for others.. I think that was what the intention of Ramayana.. as with all mythologies.. naturally a bit bombastic and hyperbolic... | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 988 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Rama is held out as an ideal King. But can that conclusion be said to be found in fact? As a matter of fact Rama never functions as a ideal king. He was a normal King. The administration, as Valmiki, states, was entrusted to Bharata, his brother. He had freed himself from the cares and worries about his kingdom and subjects. Valmiki has very minutely described the daily life of Rama after he became King. According to that accounts, the day was divided into two parts, up to forenoon and afternoon. From morning to forenoon he was engaged in performing religious rites and ceremonies and offering devotion. The afternoon he spent alternately in the company of Court jesters and in the Zenana. When he got tired of jesters he went back to the Zenana. Valmiki also gives a detailed description of how Rama spent his life in the Zenana. This Zenana was housed in a park called Ashoka Vana. There Rama used to take his meals. The food, according to Valmiki, consisted of all kinds of delicious viands. They included flesh and fruits and liquor. Rama was not a teetotaler. He drank liquor copiously and Valmiki records that Rama saw to it that Sita joined with him in his drinking bouts. From the description of the Zenana of Rama as given by Valmiki it was by no means a mean thing. There were Apsaras, Uraga and Kinnari accomplished in dancing and singing. There were other beautiful women brought from different parts. Rama sat in the midst of these women drinking and dancing. They pleased Rama and Rama garlanded them. Valmiki calls Ram as a 'Prince among women's men'. This was not a day's affair. It was a regular course of his life. Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Bhikhu Side Hero Username: Bhikhu Post Number: 2048 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 148.129.74.40 Rating: |
chass..turaks ni susi nerchokovali..valla devud ni ye roju kochen seyar..manam mana devudlu ni titte stage ki vacham | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 987 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
 Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Razesh Hero Username: Razesh Post Number: 19792 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 59.164.70.129 Rating: |
asalu ee disco waste... Ramudu devudu anukunnollaki em cheppina vinaru...thappu ki voppuki oka justification esukoni vaadhisthaaru... Ramudu kuda oka manisho, leka oka kavi kalpano ani voohisthe a problem ledhu... andharu writers thappulu sesinatte valmiki kuda sesaadu ani anukovachu | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 985 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
I agree that, Vali was a bad guy but it doesn't mean that Rama can kill him by hiding behind a tree. This murder of Vali is the greatest blot on the character of Rama. It was a crime which was thoroughly unprovoked, for Vali had no quarrel with Rama. It was a most cowardly act, for Vali was unarmed. It was a planned and premeditated murder. Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 984 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: |
For those who said Uttarakanda was NOT written by Valmiki: Rama returns to Ayodhya and is crowned as king. He rules as a just king for several decades. The following story is called as Uttara-kanda. There is an argument that this subsequent story was not written by Valmiki, but by Tulsidas. Uttara-Kanda mentions that this story was written by Valmiki based on his forecast of Ram and Sita's life. Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Cinejeevi Junior Artist Username: Cinejeevi Post Number: 882 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 65.244.125.146 Rating: N/A |
THis eyes stuff atleast need to be confirmed. I have short book by rentala which was directly taken from vaalmeeki and don't remember that part at all. | ||
| Cinejeevi Junior Artist Username: Cinejeevi Post Number: 881 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 65.244.125.146 Rating: |
Shishta rakshana ante emiti ? Idi appati lo dharmame anukunta... Nenu Rama personal traits loki vellalnu velte inka chala untayi - but as a king protecting the innocent is his primary duty. Sita as a citizen of Ayodhya had that right, did she not ? >> before sita is a citizen of ayodhya she is daughter of another king and was brought up with similar idealogy that time. Hence she did not mind and knows what difference it would make to be a queen (d/o of king or w/o a king). However the only part that can be discussed is that Rama never directly told Sita that he is leaving her forever (this was again told by sita that I would have taken it had he told me the truth) | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 983 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: |
ledu andi.. i heared it many times. Sita ki lady kallu ani peru kuda alaage vachindi. Btw, You have got a mail !! Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 3357 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150 Rating: |
Shishta rakshana ante emiti ? Idi appati lo dharmame anukunta... Nenu Rama personal traits loki vellalnu velte inka chala untayi - but as a king protecting the innocent is his primary duty. Sita as a citizen of Ayodhya had that right, did she not ? 7kondalu, Rama suffered due to guilt of his action, Sita suffered due to no fault of hers. If he believed he was on the righteous path, he should/could have explained it to her and asked her forgiveness at his helplessness...but he took the coward's way out and sent her under deception...I am sorry but that does not define Maryada to me He was human with all the human failings and he did the best at the time ante there is no reason to discuss - but when we set him up as an example even today - as Maryada Purushottam and claim that we need Ramarajya today then we have to think what was Ramarajya like ...? Analog, I do not think the eyes part is part of Ramayana...atleast nenu chadavaledu .. aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 980 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
Those are even more sensitive topics ani touch cheyyaledu. Our own Rama's birth was no exception. (Same goes for pandava's and kourava's etc) So let's not touch that topic :-) Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 979 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: |
Thank god... finally someone else also heard this version. Yesterday, i checked with my neighbor's parents and they also confirmed that it was true. Perception is immune to Intellectual Correction ... | ||
| Cinejeevi Junior Artist Username: Cinejeevi Post Number: 879 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 65.244.125.146 Rating: |
Anand_n nyayam vEru, chaTTam vEru. as a King rama's prime duty is to protect chaTTam first and then his personal nyayam next. aitE aa kaalaniki taggattu chattam mariyu nyaayam clear gaa define cheyyabaDDayaa leda anTE malla inkosari ramayanam chadavali. kaani prajaabheeshTame chattam/nyayam and most importantly certain yuga dharmams existed and Rama could not cross that line. main problem ekkadostundi anTe chala mandi so called medhavulu ippati 21st century situations or advancements ni drushtilo pettukuni appadu jarigina (cheppina) vishayaalu khanDinchaDam and saying ladies and other vargalu were mistreated etc., | ||
| Analog Junior Artist Username: Analog Post Number: 37 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 98.207.155.161 Rating: N/A |
2nd doubt: Let's just say, RAMA had a good reason (best known to him) for leaving Sita. He could have simply asked her to leave or he could've sent her to her parents. Isn't it cruel to ask Laxman to leave Sita in a FOREST? Isn't it a Barbaric act to order Laxman to REMOVE Sita's eyes while leaving her in forest... especially when she is PREGNANT? (Reason some say is that, Laxman is very close to Sita so he may not leave her there etc) But still asking him to PLUCK her eyes when she is alive... how cruel and barbaric is that? i guess this is true...oggu katha, burra katha etc jana padha stories lo kuda ee seetha kallu episode mention chestharu.....laxmana ledi kallu kobbari chippa lo chupinchadu ani how cruel it is!!!! |
