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Neeankamma007
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I don't have answers to any of your questions. But these are good questions which nobody can prove whether Rama actually did it or not. Whatever Valmiki wrote centuries ago, we Hindus believe it. You will find critics for every great person. Like for example
Christians call Jesus Christ as son of god. But his birth itself is questionable to several others. You can Google sins of Jesus Christ you will find thousands of articles on the web. So, what example Mother Mary set to the world.
Allah preached violence (jihad) against infidels (non believers), we know the consequence of this in the world.
Gautham Buddha (was womanizer) left his family(including his kid)and went to forest in search of nobody knows what? He is great for some including BR Ambedker.
So try to look at good qualities of the great people like Rama, Jesus, Allah, Buddha and Gandhi.
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Anand_n:


Rama to my mind failed as a king when he banished Sita.Justice is a primary duty of a king . Punishing Sita ,knowing full well she was innocent negates that duty as a king, apart from reneging on his duty as a husband...he did it to appease a section of people - and we wonder where political appeasement came from




7kondalu:

seethamma ni vadili vesi ramudu anubhavinchina sukhalu emiti ? second wife kooda ledu kada. thana thandri la muggu bharyalu unte meeru cheppedi oppukunta. but thanalo sagam aina seethamma ni vadili thanu entha badha padi untaado alochinchandi.





continuation to my earlier reply,

you can think that as a selfless act of rama. political appeasement ki rama chesina daaniki polika untundi anukonu. ippudu janalni appease cheyyadaaniki chese vaati veti valanaa, politicians kaani, valla kids kaani badhalu padindi ledu. kaani rama, seetha devi ni vadiliveyyadam valla, ramudu, seethamma & kids andaru suffer ayyaru.

raaju anevaadu anumaana rahitham ga undaali ani kaabolu ramudu seetha devi ni adavula ki pampindi. raaju ante kanna thandri lanti vaadu, athadu anni anumaanala ki atheetham ga undi, thana prajala ki adarsam ga undali ani anukovacchu kada.
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Apsrtc:

email id ivvu mail chesta.




7kondalu @ gmail

thank you brother :-)
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email id ivvu mail chesta.
Vote for Congress Party.. elect YSR as CM
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strong




strongly --typo :-)


bayata ki velle pani undi, malli vastha...
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Cinejeevi:

So dEsa kaala maana paristhitulani batti moola kadhalo ennO marpulu chErpulu jaripaaru/jarigaayi.




I strong believe this and think thatz what happend to ramayana and mahabharatha.
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Apsrtc:




brother, kkonchem opika chesukoni thread ni pdf kinda chesi pedathaava.. pls.
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Anand_n:

Rama to my mind failed as a king when he banished Sita.Justice is a primary duty of a king . Punishing Sita ,knowing full well she was innocent negates that duty as a king, apart from reneging on his duty as a husband...he did it to appease a section of people - and we wonder where political appeasement came from




mottham thread inka chadava ledu, but meeru chooda mannaru kaabati, mee post ki reply isthunna...

seethamma ni vadili vesi ramudu anubhavinchina sukhalu emiti ? second wife kooda ledu kada. thana thandri la muggu bharyalu unte meeru cheppedi oppukunta. but thanalo sagam aina seethamma ni vadili thanu entha badha padi untaado alochinchandi.

seethamma badha pada leda ante, meeru atu unnaru kabatti, nenu itu undi disucss chesthunna.. hope you got it :-)
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mr hyd maamu: ee thread purpose meeda anumaanam kalugutnnadi nee posts choosi.
Vote for Congress Party.. elect YSR as CM
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Mrhyderabad:

At least as a normal king, shouldn't he stand up and support his wife and teach a lesson so that no other drunkard suspects their wife's?





nenu kooda chaala sarlu ilanti questionse adiga inthaka mundu,

1). thataki vadha
2). surpanakha mukkhu chevulu kosthunte addu cheppaka povadam.
3). vaali ni champadam.
4). seetha agni pravesam
5). seethamma ni adavilo vadili veyyadam.

purvam jai babai (ibdb/btdb), thammudu (tidb). inka kondaru perlu gurthulevu chaala opika ga answer chese vallu.
nenu discussion kosam e questions vese vaadine kaani, my intentions were never to question rama or his moral values.

manam raamayanam ani ippudu anukune book enni maarpulaki guri ayyindo, madhyalo maarina saamajika, sanghika paristhuthalani batti adi kooda maaruthu vachchi untundi ani naa feeling.
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Cinejeevi:

chesE prati pani lo raaja dharmam kaapaDukunToo vachchaDu.




Rajadharmam lo oka amsam nyayam kapadatam kaada ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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if you want to believe in anything you don't need any logic. The logic or any quest comes in only if you don't believe.

1. raamDu tana bharya ni adavilo vadilesi rammani cheppaaDu kaani saakshyam kinda aame "kaLLu" temmannaDu annadi naa life lo first time vinTunna. no comments

2. ravaNudi daggara annallu unnanduku (ettukellina sare) oka bharta gaa aame jayinchaaDu yuddhamlo. ee samayamlo aame ki atani meeda edanna istam laanTidi erpaDindemo anna anumanam oka maanavuDi gaa ataniki raavaTam lo tappu lEdu. lekapote annaLLu akkaDundi velli techchesukunnadu anna neelapaninda appuDe padalsi vachchEdi. oka manishi gaa akkada badha anubhavinchina, oka raaju gaa adi tana kartavyam anukunnaaDu ramudu. andukE tanu chesE prati pani lo raaja dharmam kaapaDukunToo vachchaDu.

andhra lo main problem enti anTe asalu raamayanam kanna kosaru raamayaNaalu, cinema lu ekkuva effect ichchesi original vaalmeeki virachita ramayanam maruguna padi poindi.

asalu sitadevi sivuDi villu ettaDam anEdi kalpana ani chadivaanu nEnu. aadharalu kooDaa unnayi. it came from a noted scholar of andhra otherwise I would have not posted it here either. So dEsa kaala maana paristhitulani batti moola kadhalo ennO marpulu chErpulu jaripaaru/jarigaayi.
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7kondalu:




See my post 3347 and tell me how you can say he is a "Just" king ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Mrhyderabad:




there are 3 ways you can see at Raama,

1). incarnation of vishnu

2). King

3). character in raamayana.

if some one looks at Rama as # 1, there ends the discussion. no more questions.

if some one sees rama as either king or a character in ramayana, then ramayana and life of rama is open to all questions.

I always feel raama as a generous king who doesnt have any parallels in Indian history.


stage set chesaa.. ika mee questions ki answers, ledu naa questions add chestha :-)
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Mrhyderabad:

Apart from what he said - my first question was, shouldn't a king be a role model and show the RIGHT WAY for his people?




I am not a believer by any means..but ethics,laws change through time and place..what your essentially trying to do is judge Rama's charecter by todays ethics and laws..which to me is just a futile exercise..

just to give you an example today marrying 17 year old is illegal and immoral..but it was not the case back in the day...

I said all this assuming that ramayana actually happened and they were all human..
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lava kusa part of ramayan is not in original ramayanam. it was written by somebody else and not valmiki.
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Anand_n:

But a question is a question - whoever asks it - and we should be able to answer it if we know the answer




Exactly my point.

Apart from what he said - my first question was, shouldn't a king be a role model and show the RIGHT WAY for his people?

There are even more shocking questions in that article... avi post chesthe inka emi antaaro

Btw, he did mention that these phrases are from Valmiki Ramayanam.
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Ee thread lo first few posts chooste kallu tiruguthunnayi, inka migatha chadive opika ledu.. idedo Gatha and Karunanidhi kalipi rasina Ramayanam laga vundi
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Cinejeevi:




No problem - nenu Ambedkar /Ranganayakamma chadavaledu - so cheyyali anukunna quote cheyyalenu ...

But a question is a question - whoever asks it - and we should be able to answer it if we know the answer :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Cinejeevi:

to be frank i did not cared to read the entire thread once I saw it's ambedkar's version.

ila ani undavachchu, leda ala annadu ane daniki emi sakshyam ledu gaa.

paiga mana hindus culture lo yugadharmam anedi okati define cheyyabaDindi.. aa kaalamlo appatiki ala ani.. i will go over the thread some time tomorrow and hope it will be still alive.




Fair enough :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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anand_n

it was not directed to you but again if you quote either of them then my answer would have been same :-)

certain people because of their childhood or something else (like ambedkar etc.,) always hated hinduism and created venom against hinduism to rest others which spoiled the whole country. having said that i dont want to demean ambedkar but my feeling is there are always some positives and negatives in any such stuff and so called medhavulu of india always liked to critise only hinduism stuff and thats what i hate the most
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to be frank i did not cared to read the entire thread once I saw it's ambedkar's version.

ila ani undavachchu, leda ala annadu ane daniki emi sakshyam ledu gaa.

paiga mana hindus culture lo yugadharmam anedi okati define cheyyabaDindi.. aa kaalamlo appatiki ala ani.. i will go over the thread some time tomorrow and hope it will be still alive.
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Anand_n:

Na post lo nenu Ambedkar ni quote cheyyaledu - poni daniki answer unda - how was justice served ?




anand garu cj annai anandi mimmalni kadu..Mr hyd ni..
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Cinejeevi:

hindu religion basher ambedkar and ranganayakamma raasinavi pattukochchi vivaraNa aDigite enti cheppedi tokka?




Na post lo nenu Ambedkar ni quote cheyyaledu - poni daniki answer unda - how was justice served ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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hindu religion basher ambedkar and ranganayakamma raasinavi pattukochchi vivaraNa aDigite enti cheppedi tokka?
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Mallik:




:-) chadivi alochiste doubts vastayi - ledu vallu chesinavi anni correct ani blind ga nammite - doubts/badha emi undadu :-)

Premalo/bhaktilo, the object of your affection/devotion is always flawless :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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We need a new Ramayana and New Mahabharatha
Paatha vanni Male Chaveunists and Bigots raasaru....
We need a new interpretation of the world...A new mythology to kids which will shield them away from nonsense like "karna cant fight cause he is a sudra...sita jumped in fire to prove she didnt have sex with ravana....in the name of dharma u can do anything..."
we are in desperate need of one....
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maa teacher cheppina vishayam about vibheeshana's birth.

when the divine potion was shared by the wives of dasaratha, oka rabandu/eagle sumitra share ni tisukupothundi. so both kaikeyi, kousalya shared their portion to sumitra. aa eagle aa potion ni lanka lo vibheeshana's mom food lo drop chestundi. anduke vibeeshana has a brotherhood with rama ani seppindi madam
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Ramayanam la ne ginni kochhens aithe Bharatham la ennostayo tammi ki :D

Naaku matuku ramayanam la 'Oormila' character talsukunte shaana baadha anfittadi.. penlam kosam dasaratha maharaj kodukuni jungle ki ampithe.. mogudi kosam sitamma jungle ki vothaa ante.. majjala laxman saami bhi nen bho pothaa antadu.. andaroo baane unru bai.. pafam oormila sangathi hevvarki pattinattu ledu.. pafam nidraa devi ni aashrayinchi chowbees gante nidra poyedi anta kadaa
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Thread delete cheyyandi..shawshank thammud beltbomb vethukkuntunnadu..
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Telugu_times:


bump for gatha




LOL - asalu Iamim post chusi Gatha malli vacharu anukunna :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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In ancient Egypt also there was a God called Ra.. I think it was the same Rama.. its possible that Rama was an Arab from his actions...




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The eyes episode is not from Ramayana - it is from one of the child bhakta stories - Prahlada anukunta...

There are two ways of looking at Rama and Ramayana..

First one - Rama is God. Gods can do no wrong. People who believe this will find justifications for everything he did ..

Second one - Rama is a character in Ramayana - then you can look at his actions without the emotions /sentiments coming in the way.

I belong to the second group. To me all actions in Ramayana and Mahabharata are motivated by political expediency .. Depending on the incident , good and evil are both casualties..Good does not always win over evil...and you cannot derive a consistent code of conduct from either epic.

Rama to my mind failed as a king when he banished Sita.Justice is a primary duty of a king . Punishing Sita ,knowing full well she was innocent negates that duty as a king, apart from reneging on his duty as a husband...he did it to appease a section of people - and we wonder where political appeasement came from :-)


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tammudu gathamlo Unortho kurradu ibdblo ilantivi oka dozen paiga adigadu
Vivekadhara kurradu Opigga annitiki samadhanam seppadu.




Unortho kuda vesukunnara ? Must have been before my time :-) cos I had almost a week long debate in IB with Vivek - kontha mandi chala emotional ga feel ayyaru ani aapesanu ...

Vivek belongs to category 1 listed above - so tanu ichina answers anni justifying an action laaga unnayi kani did not show a valid cause for the action ...like his answer for why did he punish Sita was that Ammavaru okalle suffer avvaledu - Ramudu kuda pichivadi laaga Sita Sita ani Ayodhya lo tirigadu ani - to me not an answer why he did it in the first place :-)

Sentiment/emotion/bhakti ki logic undadu - so Ramudu devudu anukunte question cheyyatam anavasaram :-)
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damn.. evaru vinaledaa? idi kuda ambedkar brother evaraina raasina book lo chadivanu emo



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abboo...ramayanam gurinchi assalu idea lenollu ambedkar rasindi chadivite..ramudu gurinchi bad ga anukune chances vunnatlunnayi..
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Mrhyderabad:

damn.. evaru vinaledaa? idi kuda ambedkar brother evaraina raasina book lo chadivanu emo




karunanidhi gadu .. vadi guruvu periyar gadu rasindi nijam antadu ! ala kaani .. meeru ..
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nenu vinaledu idhi maatram...



Rajusk:

nenu aithe vinaledu..




damn.. evaru vinaledaa? idi kuda ambedkar brother evaraina raasina book lo chadivanu emo
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Last couple of phrases were from a book by Dr. B.R Ambedkar




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Rajusk:

mee variginal stories manchigane unnayi kada..madhyalo ee controversial stories enduku





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heard / read somewhere long long ago. Let me try to recall...




house theesi...ee weekend story..Ramayanam lo twist ani decide chesara endi..

mee variginal stories manchigane unnayi kada..madhyalo ee controversial stories enduku
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Mrhyderabad:

Isn't it a Barbaric act to order Laxman to REMOVE Sita's eyes while leaving her in forest... especially when she is PREGNANT? (Reason some say is that, Laxman is very close to Sita so he may not leave her there etc)

But still asking him to PLUCK her eyes when she is alive... how cruel and barbaric is that?




idhi sollu anukuntunna.. nenu vinaledu idhi maatram...
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Mrhyderabad:

Was it shown in Lava kusa movie also? Not sure... I will try to recall and post again.




nope..mundu source chepitene kada adi entha varaku nammocho cheppedi....
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meerekkada innaru asalu..adi cheppare...




cheppanu kadaa... heard / read somewhere long long ago. Let me try to recall...

Was it shown in Lava kusa movie also? Not sure... I will try to recall and post again.
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Seetha devi boodevi puthrika... Ravanudu antham kosam puttindhi... Ravanudu aasa paddadu... ramudiki dhakkindhi.. ... teesukoni velladu ramudu elnappudu maaya chesi.... Ramudu ravanunnni champi teesukoni vacchadu....

Ame puttindhi Ravanudu amenu choosi akarshithudu avvataanike... Ramudu Ravanunni champataaniki.... so thanu vacchina pani ayyipoyindhi.. malli thana thalli bhoo devi daggaraku vellipoyindhi....

Ramudu ame maaranantham .inkoka pelli cheuskoledu.... Okkatey barya..okka jeevithaaniki ani ala vundipoyaadu :-)
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Mrhyderabad:

Have you heard about Sita-lady-eyes thread in ramayan?




nenu aithe vinaledu..

at the same time...I am not an authority on mythology..so cannot comment on the different versions and where the differences are..
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Mrhyderabad:

Have you heard about Sita-lady-eyes thread in ramayan?




meerekkada innaru asalu..adi cheppare...
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Rajusk:




Agreed.

But what is your view on my other posts? Have you heard about Sita-lady-eyes thread in ramayan?
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I don't think BJP/RSS etc will leave the issue so easily...




I think during their regime they tried to do some corrections to the history books...daanike lolli chesinru..

inka Ambedkar book ban ante...India nunche ban chestaru..ani bhayapadi evadu cheyyaledu emo..

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enti ee fact teliyada annai inthakumundu? SC's ki british rule ayitene baguntundi indian Oc's kante ani tana opinion..anduek oppose chesadu..
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I don't think BJP/RSS etc will leave the issue so easily... if these translations were NOT true. They might have asked govt to ban the book.

I will research if these are true allegations or not.
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Shawshank:

He also was against the British giving Independence to India!



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tanemi complete ga rayaledu....chairman anthe.




chairman ayyi undi...

saar..ee point baagundi..ee book lo anangane..

manodu ani untadu..

anduke

Fundamental rights oka book

Directive principles oka book

wholesale gaa athukula bontha ayyindi
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If he was a hindu basher, how did he get a chance to write rajyamgam?




He was a bitter critic of Hinduism and its ethos. He asked all dalits to convert into Buddhism and he actually converted 5 lakh people.

He also was against the British giving Independence to India!
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Mrhyderabad:

If he was a hindu basher, how did he get a chance to write rajyamgam?




mana freedom vache time ki decisions influence chese Pro-Hindu leader unte..mana desam itla enduku adukku thinedi..
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Mrhyderabad:

If he was a hindu basher, how did he get a chance to write rajyamgam?




manadi Hindu country kadu kada....tanemi complete ga rayaledu....chairman anthe...manolla buildup adi...
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Mrhyderabad:

Meeru anta rama asking laxman to remove sita's eyes episode ki proof adigithe... i was googling ... then i found a article about those english phrases from Ambedkar's article on ramayan.

If he was a known hindu basher and doesn't have any credibility in this regard, you can ignore last 2-3 posts...



ok..atanu hinduism ni vadilesadu...he converted to buddism...

sare laxman kallu teesesinattu ekkada chadivaru?
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Rajusk:

so ee translation kooda ..ade chesi undochu




Constitution raasadu ani maatrame telusu... every now and then evado cheppulu vesaaru statue ki ani godavalu avutaayi ani telusu... that's all i know about him.

If he was a hindu basher, how did he get a chance to write rajyamgam?
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atanevaro teliayakundane tanu rasina book chadivara?




Book chadavaledu...

Meeru anta rama asking laxman to remove sita's eyes episode ki proof adigithe... i was googling ... then i found a article about those english phrases from Ambedkar's article on ramayan.

If he was a known hindu basher and doesn't have any credibility in this regard, you can ignore last 2-3 posts...
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naaku ambedkar gurinchi pedda gaa idea ledu...

Was he a Hindu basher?




mana Constitution matram bindas gaa copy kottindu...dorikina prathi book lo nunchi..

so ee translation kooda ..ade chesi undochu

rest nee igntion
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naaku ambedkar gurinchi pedda gaa idea ledu...

Was he a Hindu basher?


atanevaro teliayakundane tanu rasina book chadivara?
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ambdekar raste facts ayipotaya? ee roju edo ayyindi meeku..




naaku ambedkar gurinchi pedda gaa idea ledu...

Was he a Hindu basher?
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Last couple of phrases were from a book by Dr. B.R Ambedka


tamud valmiki ramayanam is original adi saduvu anni clr avutayi..andulo..Manthara kaikeyi ni convince seyatam saduthe yavar ayina kaikeyi tappu ledu antar..anta goppa ga rasar
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Mrhyderabad:

But the facts remain same, right? Those phrases have not been changed / altered from original version.




Facts? ambdekar raste facts ayipotaya? ee roju edo ayyindi meeku..
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Rajusk:




y laughing?

But the facts remain same, right? Those phrases have not been changed / altered from original version.
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Last couple of phrases were from a book by Dr. B.R Ambedkar




disco ne ledu ayithe...enduku ippudu Der annai ni rechakodutunnaru?
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Last couple of phrases were from a book by Dr. B.R Ambedkar




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sare kani mundu source cheppu...disco chesentah scene undo eldo cheputha..




Last couple of phrases were from a book by Dr. B.R Ambedkar

Rest i read long time ago in ramayan book (not sure which version, which edition)
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answer cheppaleka ilanti questions vesthe daaniki DB lo edo peru vundi anukuntaa

True translation mastaru... Bhagvadgita kuda english lo vundi (and few other languages).




sare kani mundu source cheppu...disco chesentah scene undo eldo cheputha..
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ramudi ki englihs kooda vacha..




answer cheppaleka ilanti questions vesthe daaniki DB lo edo peru vundi anukuntaa

True translation mastaru... Bhagvadgita kuda english lo vundi (and few other languages).
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Mrhyderabad:

I have got you as a prize in a war after conquering my enemy, your captor. I have recovered my honour and punished my enemy. People have witnessed my military powers and I am glad my labours have been rewarded. I came here to kill Ravana and wash off the dishonour. I did not take this trouble for your sake."

Could there be anything more cruel than this conduct of Rama towards Sita? He does not stop there. He proceeded to tell her:

"I suspect your conduct. You must have been spoiled by Ravana. Your very sight is revolting to me. Oh you daughter of Janaka! I allow you to go anywhere you like. I have nothing to do with you. I conquered you back and I am content for that was my object. I cannot think that Ravana would have failed to enjoy a woman as beautiful as you are."




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And can you guess what RAMA would have spoken first... when Sita comes to meet him?

I don't think any sane person would talk to his wife this way..especially after so much time she spent in ravana's custody.

Here is what he said:

"I have got you as a prize in a war after conquering my enemy, your captor. I have recovered my honour and punished my enemy. People have witnessed my military powers and I am glad my labours have been rewarded. I came here to kill Ravana and wash off the dishonour. I did not take this trouble for your sake."

Could there be anything more cruel than this conduct of Rama towards Sita? He does not stop there. He proceeded to tell her:

"I suspect your conduct. You must have been spoiled by Ravana. Your very sight is revolting to me. Oh you daughter of Janaka! I allow you to go anywhere you like. I have nothing to do with you. I conquered you back and I am content for that was my object. I cannot think that Ravana would have failed to enjoy a woman as beautiful as you are."
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Mrhyderabad:

Another one:

After RAMA kills Ravana this is what happened:

He sends Hanuman as a messenger to Sita. He did NOT personally go to Sita.

He did not ask Hanuman to bring her. He asked him to inform her that he was hale and hearty. It was Sita who expressed to Hanuman her desire to see Rama. Rama did not go to see Sita, his own wife who was kidnapped and confined by Ravana for more than 10 months.




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Another one:

After RAMA kills Ravana this is what happened:

He sends Hanuman as a messenger to Sita. He did NOT personally go to Sita.

He did not ask Hanuman to bring her. He asked him to inform her that he was hale and hearty. It was Sita who expressed to Hanuman her desire to see Rama. Rama did not go to see Sita, his own wife who was kidnapped and confined by Ravana for more than 10 months.
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Mrhyderabad:

Story teliyakapothe chadavandi...




Valmiki ramayanam lo uttarakanda ledu. later versions lo add ayindi. inka movies lo dramatization tho meeru annatu "pidakalaveta" ayindi
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Mrhyderabad:

Regarding eyes - RAMA orders laxman to bring back Sita's eyes as a proof because he knows that Laxman respects sita a lot and may not leave her there.

Laxman couldn't do that so he kills a LADY (Jinka) and bring's it's eyes as proof. Because Sita's eyes were so close to jinka kallu.




how can it be a proof? adavi lo vadileyyataniki kallu tevataniki sambandham enti? ye ramayanam lo undi idi? ranganayaki rasina ramayanam aa?
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Sirivennela:

nijamgaanaa?? didnt know this :-( kasta light veyi..kallu remove cheyamannada..malli emayindi... emanukoku...lavakusa cinema lo ee scene ledu..so naku telvadu ..





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Sita korika adi adaviki velli ravali okasari before giving birth ani..so ramudu pampistadu adaviki vadilesi rammani..ee plucking eyes eppudu vinaledu...meeremanna kottaga rasara ramayanam ni ?




Yes, it was Sita's wish to visit forest once.

Regarding eyes - RAMA orders laxman to bring back Sita's eyes as a proof because he knows that Laxman respects sita a lot and may not leave her there.

Laxman couldn't do that so he kills a LADY (Jinka) and bring's it's eyes as proof. Because Sita's eyes were so close to jinka kallu.


Adaware:

what are you smokin dude!




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Mrhyderabad:

He could have simply asked her to leave or he could've sent her to her parents.

Isn't it cruel to ask Laxman to leave Sita in a FOREST?

Isn't it a Barbaric act to order Laxman to REMOVE Sita's eyes while leaving her in forest... especially when she is PREGNANT? (Reason some say is that, Laxman is very close to Sita so he may not leave her there etc)

But still asking him to PLUCK her eyes when she is alive... how cruel and barbaric is that?




Sita korika adi adaviki velli ravali okasari before giving birth ani..so ramudu pampistadu adaviki vadilesi rammani..ee plucking eyes eppudu vinaledu...meeremanna kottaga rasara ramayanam ni ?
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** Laxman to REMOVE Sita's eyes

nijamgaanaa?? didnt know this :-( kasta light veyi..kallu remove cheyamannada..malli emayindi... emanukoku...lavakusa cinema lo ee scene ledu..so naku telvadu ..
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Mrhyderabad:

Isn't it a Barbaric act to order Laxman to REMOVE Sita's eyes while leaving her in forest... especially when she is PREGNANT? (Reason some say is that, Laxman is very close to Sita so he may not leave her there etc)




what are you smokin dude! j/k
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2nd doubt:

Let's just say, RAMA had a good reason (best known to him) for leaving Sita.

He could have simply asked her to leave or he could've sent her to her parents.

Isn't it cruel to ask Laxman to leave Sita in a FOREST?

Isn't it a Barbaric act to order Laxman to REMOVE Sita's eyes while leaving her in forest... especially when she is PREGNANT? (Reason some say is that, Laxman is very close to Sita so he may not leave her there etc)

But still asking him to PLUCK her eyes when she is alive... how cruel and barbaric is that?
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Are you misleading the topic intentionally?




http://www.geocities.com/rigvedsamhita/yavanas.htm
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Xdasara_bullodux:

nuvvu oka dinner party ki vellav.




ee example opposite gaa work avutundi emo ee scene lo?

Leave examples aside, straight gaa answer ivvandi if possible.
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Mrhyderabad:




Anni.. its all about perception...

nuvvu oka dinner party ki vellav... nuvvu aa roju non-veg tinavu... migilina andarooo tintaaru...
nee colleague okadu neekosam neeku company isthanu ani veg maatrame thinnaadu...

1) okadu naakosam non-veg tinadam maanukoni veg-tinnadu
2) aa tokkale, naa daggara impression kosam tinnadu
3) aa bokkale, vaadiki monna oka veyyi appu ichaanu.. malli nenu ivvalani cuttings...
4) vaadu sentimental fool.. vaadu naakosam veg tinadam enti.. bullshit
5) etc...

aa rojullo modati type janaalu ekkuva anukontaa.. mana taatala taraniki,manaki teda chuste ardhamavutundi..
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Please answer my question also.

Could Rama really win over Ravana if not for floor crosser Vibheeshana?
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Iamim:

Teach a lesson.. you mean he should have killed that washerman with his Brahmasthra??





lesson ante killing ye naa?

He should have injected some sense in to his head.

Are you misleading the topic intentionally?
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Forget RAMA's devine or immortal angle. At least as a normal king, shouldn't he stand up and support his wife and teach a lesson so that no other drunkard suspects their wife's?




Teach a lesson.. you mean he should have killed that washerman with his Brahmasthra??

In ancient Egypt also there was a God called Ra.. I think it was the same Rama.. its possible that Rama was an Arab from his actions...
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Iamim:

it was a washerman




Yes, it was the illiterate DHOBI under the influence of Alcohol.
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Iamim:

I dont think it was a drunkard.. it was a washerman..



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quote:

o what should RAMA do when he hears a allegation from a illiterate drunkard?




I dont think it was a drunkard.. it was a washerman..
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A king (or leader) should live as a role model for general public. Right?

So what should RAMA do when he hears a allegation from a illiterate drunkard? Isn't it his job to correct him by educations him?

An illiterate drunkard suspects his wife when she doesn't return home in the night. He even points finger @ Rama and says "I am not a fool like our king to continue this marriage. Rama was a fool to bring back and live with Sita after her 1 year stay in Lanka"

Forget RAMA's devine or immortal angle. At least as a normal king, shouldn't he stand up and support his wife and teach a lesson so that no other drunkard suspects their wife's?

By leaving his wife Sita, didn't he set a wrong example?
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hyd go ahead..
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Samajika Ramayanam ani title pettu. Replies ekkuva vasthayi !




puraanaalu meeda thread vesthe hijack chesthaava?
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Samajika Ramayanam ani title pettu.




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Prajaarajyam:

Samajika Ramayanam




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Sensitive/religious believers can keep out...




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Samajika Ramayanam ani title pettu. Replies ekkuva vasthayi !
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Ramayanam lo naaku konni doubts vunnayi. Ikkada evaraina clarify cheyyagalara?

Sensitive/religious believers can keep out...

Those who are ready for healthy discussion and wish to educate me (and others like me) are welcome.
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