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I believe that Infosys has ethically done the right thing by announcing that it won't recruit Satyam employees. I'm sure that all of you must have come to know about the Satyam debacle by this time. Everything has gone haywire at Satyam. Their bank balance has been reported to be negative. Most of the Board members of Satyam have already quit. Their balance sheet does not match with the bank statements etc etc..



The only assets that Satyam is left with at this point of time is it employees and few projects. If at this time, the employees start deserting the company or other oragnisations start poaching the employees of Satyam then it would ring the death bell for Satyam.



Infosys could probably at this point of time hire big names of Satyam by paying very low remunarations because employees of Satyam wont have the bargaining power now. I would also like to think that employees of Satyam would be even ready to work at lower salary than what they were drawing at Satyam. Probably Infosys has lost out on a golden oppurtunity to recruit good resources at a price which is lot less than current market price. This could be termed as a bad business decision. But ethically this is probably the best decision i have seen or heard in a long time. This is probably the best time to get rid of your competitor by taking away from them their best employees. But Infosys has not done that. Infosys has risen above competition and is actually helping its rival organisation by not taking away their resources from them during their time of crisis. It is actually giving its rival an oppurtunity to get its act together and pull itself up from its current situation. I think this is what true competition is all about.



Decision makers of many other organisations may think that this decision of Infosys is foolish and they may go ahead and hire Satyamites. This is the difference between Infosys and other oragnisations. And this difference should be there. After all its ethics, high moral standards and excellent corporate governance that Infosys follows, makes it one of the most respected names in the world of IT business.
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maaku koda offshore ni inka baaga utilize cheyalani antunnaru.
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Houston lo Seva (Formerly Eagle Logistics) lo kooda oka 300 mandi layoff, complete IT department outsourced to HCL, ikkada oka 25 respurces vunchi migatha 275 position to India.
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Maaku already directive vachindi - change onsite-offshore mix- reduce onsite component and increase offshore to keep costs down...
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Maverick:

25$/hr quote ki ready ayyaru..




Demand-supply economics Mav- price undercutting cannot be avoided in a competitve world - it will only get worse now as the market situation worsens ...
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mav how was ur travel. any problem at POE?




nothing..went fine..asalu adaga ledu..looks like if u already have entered US earlier with the same employer, 797 light..they didnt even ask. but my wife was entering first time with her h1. they asked her 797
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Infy said they will not poach from satyam- it is in crisis - the intention behind this I read it as a good one




anand i too read that in positive note..but later part of his statements are definetly arrogant
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mav how was ur travel. any problem at POE?
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yes bhari settlement to bayatapaddadu
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nenu anedi tappu aina ee desi IT companies ki konni eduru debbalu tagalali..i am for the emplyees but veelu projects bid cheyyatam maree ghoram..latest ga naaku maa company lo <25$/hr quote ki ready ayyaru..sign kooda chesaru..ikkada usa lo janalu batakala vadda..konni rojulu janitor salary kante takkuva quote chestaremo
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satyam and infosys is seen as tamils vs telugu by infosys and its chairman kaani all the other IT people doesnt see it in that way. thank god.naaku aa discussion chuste anipinchindi.
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Whoami:

Akkadiki Infy ki emi problems lenattu Murthy gari cuttings ekkuvayyayi,



infy lo ne naa appudepudo sexual harassment case jarigindhi? I guess phaneesh murthy?
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Maverick:



Jalsa:


Akkadiki Infy ki emi problems lenattu Murthy gari cuttings ekkuvayyayi, tana daaka vasthey gaani telvadu annattu, Para ninda atma stuthi ekkuva ayyindi
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Maverick:

chairman tainted kaani employees tainted kaadu ga..some satyamite shoud stand up and say,we dont want to join infy..how can murthy blame the employees altogeter




Unrelated comments ni kalipi react avutunnaru janalu anukuntunna ... NRN called th company tainted - in bad taste I agree - but he did not say employees are tainted.

Infy said they will not poach from satyam- it is in crisis - the intention behind this I read it as a good one ..Also Infy has a huge bench itself - so the point may be moot.Now if Infy also refrains from trying to take over Satyam's projects that would be good :-)
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Anand_n:

but that should give the employees confidence- too many people claiming it is better than no one wanting it - I guess




Evaru takeover chesina minimum or no layoffs to Stayam employees andarini retain chesukuntey chaala baguntundi, as far as shareholders are concerned no idea emi jarugutudo
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Anil is ready to put 5000 Cr INR into this new firm he is floating. So, talent, clients use chesukovachu.
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Whoami:

anduke ADA bharigaa stock konnaru ani oka vaartha



that actually might be a good thing for Satyam

Mav, I was thinking the same too. He is going overboard. Employees andharni anadam chaala bad.
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Whoami:

Satyam stock lo 5% vaata vunna prathi Instituitional investors anadaru kothaga form ayye Board lo representatin kaavali ani godava chestunnaru, Indulo L&T, LIC etc., unnayi also ADA (Anil Dirubahia Ambani) kooda vaata undi ani stock market news, evadi ki vadu tama vaipu company ni lagukovalani choostaru , emi jarugutundo teliyani paristithi as of today.




Vultures circling anamata - but that should give the employees confidence- too many people claiming it is better than no one wanting it - I guess :-(
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murthy konmchem over chestunnadu..chairman tainted kaani employees tainted kaadu ga..some satyamite shoud stand up and say,we dont want to join infy..how can murthy blame the employees altogeter?
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Whoami:




evadi ki vadu tama vaipu company ni lagukovalani choostaru , emi jarugutundo teliyani paristithi as of today.

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YSR should somehow use his clout and try to stop this..
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Jalsa:

ADA is launching their own IT firm ani news. they have already hired a third of 2000 employees-to-be ata in bangalore. May be satyam can merge with ADA and rise?


anduke ADA bharigaa stock konnaru ani oka vaartha
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Anand_n:

Satyam management has to figure out a way to keep the projects running,




Whoami:

unnayi also ADA (Anil Dirubahia Ambani) kooda vaata undi ani stock market news




ADA is launching their own IT firm ani news. they have already hired a third of 2000 employees-to-be ata in bangalore. May be satyam can merge with ADA and rise?
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Anand Garu,
Satyam stock lo 5% vaata vunna prathi Instituitional investors anadaru kothaga form ayye Board lo representatin kaavali ani godava chestunnaru, Indulo L&T, LIC etc., unnayi also ADA (Anil Dirubahia Ambani) kooda vaata undi ani stock market news, evadi ki vadu tama vaipu company ni lagukovalani choostaru , emi jarugutundo teliyani paristithi as of today.
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Film_fan:

oh yeah opinion yes......not publicly and not with that much venom/brahsness in that statement on national TV.....




Did not see it anduke anta impact anipinchaledu emo naku...


Film_fan:

that is what is needed from the IT community.....




True - the IT industry in general is not in great shape right now - hiring I understand is at a low any way .. and a collapsing major player is not really good for anyone I would think.

Satyam management has to figure out a way to keep the projects running, stay focussed on it core business while they figure out a way to pay salaries/bills etc..Its depressing to think of such a painstakingly built organisation disappearing :-(
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anand garu....wonderful.....post.....that is what is needed from the IT community.....

not untouchable behaviour and fancy one-liners.....
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ee news ki evaro okatnu post esadu correct ga saripotundi. no professionalism in his words.

Finally we hear the school master's son speaking. In the school run by his father, no student from a "badly managed school" would be taken!
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but he is entitled to his opinion especially with this scandal breaking on top of the World bank bribery allegations..though he would have been better off not expressing it publicly.
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oh yeah opinion yes......not publicly and not with that much venom/brahsness in that statement on national TV.....

i couldnt take it......usually.....rivals dont give statements of this kind.....atleast not on the crisis day...you can have a dig...but this is like....that....tainted cheap company.....literally.....that kind of expression written all over his face......


well i can't explain....more than that....it would come up in one of those youtube clips soon i think......
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A wonderfully written comment under that article - All the best to all Satyamites :-)

RB,Bangalore,says:Hi, to all of you Satyamites, wishing you a good day. I do not work at Satyam nor have relatives there etc (better I put a disclaimer out here first). I work in the IT industry and wish to share what's been going through my mind : 1. On hearing the news of the fraud committed by the chairman, my thoughts first went to all of you Satyamites, wherever you may be in the world. I have had the privilige to work with many of you as a consultant and customer and know from my experience, how professional, dedicated and committed you are with your work and your customer projects. So, there should not be any debate on it 2. Your first priority should be to get support and strength to face up to what can be a long a hard journey ahead. Your family, your colleagues at work, your customers - let them know you need them, not just in good times, but now, more than ever. The good ones will respond, and you can then focus on what you need to do to steer the ship 3. It is not just what NRN or Mr. Pai said, you will hear a lot of comments from people in the industry - some may have vested interests, some may just want to score points with investors saying they are different, some may show genuine interest in providing support - take them all in your stride. Every comment you react to, every comment you carry to home or to work with you, let it give you more determination- energy that you can better use to plan your way ahead. 4.It is difficult to say which is the right thing to do as an employee - 'Stay or Leave'?. As you know, it depends on the individual. One thing, i humbly propose, treat your colleagues' decisions with respect. Whether they choose to stay and fight it out or choose to leave, respect their decision and focus just on what you need to do and follow your own destiny. 5. It is worth keeping in mind that, through these events and experiences, you will realise how interconnected we all are in this industry. Many of you would have joined from other companies, some of you may leave to join another company, but it is important to see us as one big community. If you are reading this and are an employee of Infy, Wipro etc, its no use saying 'there's a hole in the boat, but its not on my side of the boat'. Reach out with understanding or stay out of the way, without doing harm. That's the least we all can do. I wish you well, all of you at Satyam have lived a very powerful idea all these years and brought a company this far. You have been a worthy competitor in the global IT industry. The future is a pure white canvas and what you fill in it from here on is all upto you. Go for it ! Have faith ! Have fun.
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he did this on a positive note..company bagaledu ani employees ni poach chesi hire chesukunnaru ani antaremo ani ala annadu..meeku negative ga enduku ardham ayyindi
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watch the clip.....where he said in disgust, about hanging heads in shame.....that happened on wednesday on NDTV.....after that.....whatever he said.....i couldnt beleive.....

not tyring to poach is not a bad statement at all....but he follows it by saying....we dont touch a tainted company.....then it sounded..bad......

dont know how i can get that link...but i watched it at home....on NDTV......
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i think murthy has lot of regional feeling
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Film_fan:

where has the professionilism gone Mr murthy....they may be your rivals...but you are acting quite ordinary.....

he went on to say.....we have to hang our heads in shame......

dont poach them is one thing.....but we dont touch such a tainted company.....is too far......




FF,
Hang our heads in shame? Did not see it in this link ?Tainted company - strong language I agree...but he is entitled to his opinion especially with this scandal breaking on top of the World bank bribery allegations..though he would have been better off not expressing it publicly.

I think not poaching employees at this time is a good move.
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where has the professionilism gone Mr murthy....they may be your rivals...but you are acting quite ordinary.....



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murthy is just another ordinary indian ani nirupinchukunadu.




he did this on a positive note..company bagaledu ani employees ni poach chesi hire chesukunnaru ani antaremo ani ala annadu..meeku negative ga enduku ardham ayyindi
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where has the professionilism gone Mr murthy....they may be your rivals...but you are acting quite ordinary.....

he went on to say.....we have to hang our heads in shame......

dont poach them is one thing.....but we dont touch such a tainted company.....is too far......


as gotcha said......requirment batti kakunda......ilanti backgrounds base chesukuni.....theesukuntaara? what has the employees done....
"Any one who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein
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murthy is just another ordinary indian ani nirupinchukunadu. nijanga job requirements prakram hiring cheyali kaani ila prejudiced hiring chestaru ani public ga oppukunadu.




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murthy is just another ordinary indian ani nirupinchukunadu. nijanga job requirements prakram hiring cheyali kaani ila prejudiced hiring chestaru ani public ga oppukunadu.
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3954039.cms

NEW DELHI: Infosys Technologies, the country’s second-largest IT services exporter by sales, has told its human resources (HR) executives to refrain
from hiring employees of Satyam Computer Services.

This comes a day after revelations of financial fraud at Satyam, which has left its 53,000 employees in a state of uncertainty.

“We have asked our recruitment staff not to poach anybody from Satyam. The company is in the middle of a crisis and people will jump ship,” Infosys Technologies HR, education & research and administration director TV Mohandas Pai told ET. On Wednesday, Infosys had ruled out any possibility of taking over Satyam. “We will not touch such a tainted company,” Infosys founder and non-executive chairman N R Narayana Murthy had said.

A person familiar with the matter, who asked not to be named, said that Infosys would refrain from even hiring domain experts or project managers from Satyam. Infosys has even advised staff against entertaining calls from Satyam employees. This development comes as Satyam employees flood search firms and job portals with their resumes.

Although Satyam’s top management put up a brave face on Thursday, saying it has assured employees of their future, the flood of messages at job portals and frenzied blog postings tell a different story. Addressing a conference on Thursday, Satyam’s interim CEO Ram Mynampati said that the company had taken care of employees’ December salaries but faced a cash crunch.

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