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Sanjaysahu
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I believe that Infosys has ethically done the right thing by announcing that it won't recruit Satyam employees. I'm sure that all of you must have come to know about the Satyam debacle by this time. Everything has gone haywire at Satyam. Their bank balance has been reported to be negative. Most of the Board members of Satyam have already quit. Their balance sheet does not match with the bank statements etc etc..



The only assets that Satyam is left with at this point of time is it employees and few projects. If at this time, the employees start deserting the company or other oragnisations start poaching the employees of Satyam then it would ring the death bell for Satyam.



Infosys could probably at this point of time hire big names of Satyam by paying very low remunarations because employees of Satyam wont have the bargaining power now. I would also like to think that employees of Satyam would be even ready to work at lower salary than what they were drawing at Satyam. Probably Infosys has lost out on a golden oppurtunity to recruit good resources at a price which is lot less than current market price. This could be termed as a bad business decision. But ethically this is probably the best decision i have seen or heard in a long time. This is probably the best time to get rid of your competitor by taking away from them their best employees. But Infosys has not done that. Infosys has risen above competition and is actually helping its rival organisation by not taking away their resources from them during their time of crisis. It is actually giving its rival an oppurtunity to get its act together and pull itself up from its current situation. I think this is what true competition is all about.



Decision makers of many other organisations may think that this decision of Infosys is foolish and they may go ahead and hire Satyamites. This is the difference between Infosys and other oragnisations. And this difference should be there. After all its ethics, high moral standards and excellent corporate governance that Infosys follows, makes it one of the most respected names in the world of IT business.
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If you mean the clients will backtrack - I doubt it - T&M meda pani cheyinchukunevallaki pedda farak padadu anukunta whether they work from a rental property... >>

Selling real estate and leasing it back is a strategy which many firms do to improve case position.I never heard of this creating bad impression on customers.Infact most of the US retailers lease the properties.
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That line should have read

"should be strongly discouraged "

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Anand_n:

I think this kind of cannnibalism by desi IT companies should not be strongly discouraged.



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Telugu_times:

alaa ammithey vacchey dabbu tho, rental property lo company naduputhuntay, migathaa vaallu movie soosthaaraa anand gaaru?




If you mean the clients will backtrack - I doubt it - T&M meda pani cheyinchukunevallaki pedda farak padadu anukunta whether they work from a rental property...

Bail-out ani handouts iche kanna , govt. control teesukoni, konni govt. projects like the railway one iste- will atleast keep the business running.Idi emi virtual money kadu kada, Satyam has "tangible assets" in it people and projects...
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Anand_n:

BTW, Does Satyam own all the real estate their offices are on ? Can they sell/ mortgage these to get cashflow going ?




I think they do. In fact I hear that they many more real estate assests ( if you still believe them)
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BTW, Does Satyam own all the real estate their offices are on ? Can they sell/ mortgage these to get cashflow going ? >>>

. alaa ammithey vacchey dabbu tho, rental property lo company naduputhuntay, migathaa vaallu movie soosthaaraa anand gaaru?
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BTW, Does Satyam own all the real estate their offices are on ? Can they sell/ mortgage these to get cashflow going ?
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In other words Inka migilana companies Tcs, Wipro kuda norumusukoni ee statement ivvali..so that WORLD lo Indian comanies ki unna Reputation nilabetti nattu avuddi!!

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I agree :-) I think this kind of cannnibalism by desi IT companies should not be strongly discouraged.

Satyam has sound infrastructure, processes and people..if some infusion is given to keep the engine running, I think they can become viable...

If other companies do not refrain for hiring, the highly skilled people will leave the "sinking ship " making it totally unsalvageable(is that a word ?)
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Chivuks:

i said operations these people can take care ..
setting the direction and strategies .. well, i dont think satyam in a position right now to do that now ... satyam anyway needs somebody to get the cash flows back on track .. so once that happens, anyway that entity will look in to these aspects .. Mynampati to me looks like a rubber stamp of raju .. and as far as majority concerned, they dont even let raju's shadow also on satyam, for now ...




I see the point....thanks
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Mega:

Mama, middle and higher management chaalu ante..ippdunna companies annitilo unna directors waste aa mama? Can they be replaced by the drop of a hat?




i said operations these people can take care ..
setting the direction and strategies .. well, i dont think satyam in a position right now to do that now ... satyam anyway needs somebody to get the cash flows back on track .. so once that happens, anyway that entity will look in to these aspects .. Mynampati to me looks like a rubber stamp of raju .. and as far as majority concerned, they dont even let raju's shadow also on satyam, for now ...
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Chivuks:

as per linga raju, the board of dirs were not aware of the fraud .. inkemi peekutunnaru vallu ... operations wise, there would be middle and high management which can take care ... setting the direction for the company, well it is not possible for anybody for now .. mynampati eti seppadu, press conf lo .. edhi naku telvadu .. chudali ani ... daniki ayanaku em clue kavali ..




Mama, middle and higher management chaalu ante..ippdunna companies annitilo unna directors waste aa mama? Can they be replaced by the drop of a hat?
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Mega:

The running of a compnay needs someboday like Mynampati , a totally new guy from Govt will be clueless




as per linga raju, the board of dirs were not aware of the fraud .. inkemi peekutunnaru vallu ... operations wise, there would be middle and high management which can take care ... setting the direction for the company, well it is not possible for anybody for now .. mynampati eti seppadu, press conf lo .. edhi naku telvadu .. chudali ani ... daniki ayanaku em clue kavali ..
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Mega:

The running of a compnay needs someboday like Mynampati


enduku mama, company ni malli ramalinga raju chetilo keelubomma cheyadaanikaa??

just opika pattu SATYAM ki manchi rojulu vastai malli..if GOVT act properly..India lo TOP directors lo 10 mandini pic chesi SATYAM ki pedutunnaru..inthakante emi kaavali mama !!good sign!!
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Just4fun:

ledante RAM MAINAMPAATI ni temp director ga etti Ramalinga RAju inka Games adudamu anukunnadu..adi kasta bedisi kottindi!!




The running of a compnay needs someboday like Mynampati , a totally new guy from Govt will be clueless
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Just4fun:

ledante RAM MAINAMPAATI ni temp director ga etti Ramalinga RAju inka Games adudamu anukunnadu..adi kasta bedisi kottindi!!




idhi saala pedda komedy.

Nenu Dongathanamu/praud sesenu.

Ippudu veelani peduthunna ani appointments seyatam ento..

anth yishnu maayaa

At the sametime govt will not have any talent or skill to appt a new CEO or President
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Mega:

Board of directors marchithe immediate benefit emi undha?


Yup, client ki nammakam untadi..and Govt involve ante employees kuda panic avvaru..

ledante RAM MAINAMPAATI ni temp director ga etti Ramalinga RAju inka Games adudamu anukunnadu..adi kasta bedisi kottindi!!
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Just4fun:

ippatiki aite central govt BOARD OF DIRECTORS ni maarche chance teesukundi..so maybe CENTRAL GOVT or may not




Babais,
Board of directors marchithe immediate benefit emi undha? I mean to the runnign of businees and employees
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Getafix:




Yes. CMC Limited is now a TCS Subsidiary
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Satyam is trying to settle itself.

So INFY kanuka ippudu Satyam vallani theesukunte poaching kindha vasthundhi. adhi iilegal kaakapoina unethical.

Client request meedha transfer aithe its different issue
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did they.. naku telidhu idhi
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Getafix:

state govt?


ippatiki aite central govt BOARD OF DIRECTORS ni maarche chance teesukundi..so maybe CENTRAL GOVT or may not
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Getafix:





TCS bought CMC long back...
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Just4fun:

Right now no clue, but GOVT responsiblity teesukovachhu or Dabbu nokkesina DIRECTORS andarni kummi..venakki teesukovachhu!!

But fact is Info chala +ve sprit chupinchindi!!




Emo Bro naaku antha positive buzz kanapatam ledhu...I think it is gonna get worse....unless govt gives money....but if govt gives...every other private compnay will ask for bail out
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Just4fun:

but GOVT responsiblity teesukovachhu




state govt?

CMC undhi ga Govt owned software comp.. ade anthantha matram inka operating income saripada leni satyam ni ela manage chesthadi govt
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Mega:

who is going to pay the money to Satyam for day to day maintenance?


Right now no clue, but GOVT responsiblity teesukovachhu or Dabbu nokkesina DIRECTORS andarni kummi..venakki teesukovachhu!!

But fact is Info chala +ve sprit chupinchindi!!
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Just4fun:

Satyam employess and Satyam ni nasanam kakunda chuddaniki ee statement ichhadu!!




j4f .. ur analaysis would be correct if infy does not poach accounts and projects .. let us see ...
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Idle, Infosys Narayana Murthy REAL HERO !!!

Satyam employess and Satyam ni nasanam kakunda chuddaniki ee statement ichhadu!!
More over GOVT ee kottada 10 board of directors ni appoint chestondi..SO SATYAM ippude safe hands (Govt chetilo) lo undi!!

In other words Inka migilana companies Tcs, Wipro kuda norumusukoni ee statement ivvali..so that WORLD lo Indian comanies ki unna Reputation nilabetti nattu avuddi!!

Info

Next few days lo ee news internation media lo kuda +ve ga vastadi chudani!!





Ok even if you analysis is right, who is going to pay the money to Satyam for day to day maintenance? Where is the liquid cash
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Idle, Infosys Narayana Murthy REAL HERO !!!

Satyam employess and Satyam ni nasanam kakunda chuddaniki ee statement ichhadu!!
More over GOVT ee kottada 10 board of directors ni appoint chestondi..SO SATYAM ippude safe hands (Govt chetilo) lo undi!!

In other words Inka migilana companies Tcs, Wipro kuda norumusukoni ee statement ivvali..so that WORLD lo Indian comanies ki unna Reputation nilabetti nattu avuddi!!

Info

Next few days lo ee news internation media lo kuda +ve ga vastadi chudani!!
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Mega:


me congrees leaders adigava eppudaina ethics...




yellehey nee gola nuvvu... I did not support Raju

nenu employee position gurinchi allochisthunna
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intha unethical ga vuntara, inkokadi downfall medha cash cheskundam ani, vammoooo

akkada raju crores denkabettadu aadini emi anakunta....ikkada NAraynaMurthy is doing business in bussineess sesne...adiki ethics aduguthunnavu..


me congrees leaders adigava eppudaina ethics...
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Idle_yzag:

annai rediff discussion board lo chadiva




IY .. that is true .. my friend, who is a manager in infy told me .. thr is directive not to recruit any satyam employees now ... RNM orally communicated this to infy family it seems ...
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Rajusk:

details or links please


annai rediff discussion board lo chadiva
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Idle_yzag:

skilled technical resumes vasthe, openings vunte theskovachu kada how it affect Infy




ala teeskunte only .. head count vastundi ...
a/c theeskunte .. head count tho patu billing vastundi ..
right now, india svc companies lo billing ledu, head count vundi ekkuva ...
so if they take over a/c, they can fire unbillable people also ...
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Idle_yzag:

Narayana Murthy went a step ahead and told Infy HR not to accept Satyam employee resumes




details or links please
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Satyam projects Infy ki osthe eventually Satyam emps Infy ke ostharu ani




intha unethical ga vuntara, inkokadi downfall medha cash cheskundam ani, vammoooo
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Satyam projects Infy ki osthe eventually Satyam emps Infy ke ostharu ani
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INFY has large no on bench and most of the onsite satyam employees might end up with infy anyway


Bench medha vunte ippudu chepatam yendhuku HR team dont take any new resumes that too only from satyam ani
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vallu anta TDP support ani telisi YSR vaddu ani cheppadu anta j/k
INFY has large no on bench and most of the onsite satyam employees might end up with infy anyway
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Chivuks:


skilled technical resumes vasthe, openings vunte theskovachu kada how it affect Infy
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Idle_yzag:




Infy ki bench chala ekkuva undi ani rumors ..
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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becoz infy is going to poach some satyam accounts, and those people would come to infy through alternate route .. nobody wants to buy satyam as a couple of billion dollars worth of suites would be pending in the courts .. so the service companies in india are eyeing for only the projects ...
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Narayana Murthy went a step ahead and told Infy HR not to accept Satyam employee resumes


yendhuku cheppadu?

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