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Risingstar
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yaa.. nenu confuse ayyanatlunna... congress vallu ramoji meedha too much presuure thechi athaniki help chesaru oka vidhanmgaa.. repu market revive ayye time ki he will bounce back...
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will SEC investigate for corporate governance?

1.6billion black ni white chessukondam annukonnadu cut cheste 2-3b losses chussadu and also lost credibility. looks like he will be removed too?

asalu 25-30% kuda inflated price aiyte kummevallu...that is too much $$ for that company....

coming to ramoji: thats the best thing happened for him, banks 5-7% intrest istunte vurike 18% interest enduku jananiki vadu ivvatam...growth ki temp dent vochina long run lo manchi growth. asalu public cheste inka full growth better for the company after ramoji too..
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when did I say otherwise Risingstar??? that's what I am saying will help Ramoji in the coming days.....coming times lo margadarsi returns is no chance in hell ani cheptunnaa.........my post meant if margadarsi is still alive, it would have been a dick in Ramoji's ass.....like the ones we are seeing up everyone's these days.......
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pplsuck....your posts make sense to me...

good posts....
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Pplsuck:




Margadarshi loo andarki deposits venakki ichesaru kadha..
his print media, electronic media, food industries, kalanjali etc in profits kadha...
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Miya mama,

I dont have good details of his sold properties as I dont follow politics too closely....this is what I read from DBs and other information sources.....

anyways, the point is, Ramoji's shrinking business is what I think will be positive for him in the coming downtrend........market share kosam all corporate entities world over leveraged themselves with lotsa debt and/or bloated size.......both will prove very costly to get rid off.....as you can see how the big companies are falling off the cliff in US......my guess is it will reach the indian shores and hits it hard too.......booming times lo expanding business is great.....but downtime lo large business is a liability.......

So people who are nimble and agile can easily adopt to new circumstances and take the first lead.......for example, think of a guy with great job, who bought a huge house in booming times......and an other guy was unlucky(no job), other issues and couldn't buy a house anywhere......when layoffs start next year, the unlucky guy will be thanking his stars that they were not good to him earlier.......Im thinking on the same lines for Ramoji....may be this is a boon in disguise....if Ramoji is still into Margadarsi, I doubt he will be able to make 18% returns for the customers apart from running costs of the business......

anyways I am not sold to this theory.....but just a thought that crossed my mind when trying to link the global crunch to our local issue......may be Im thinking too shallow/narrow with my head up my ass.......we will know in a couple of years......
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Kkd:

Ethical ga lafangi thanam idhi maathram.......it would have made sense if he tried to buy 25-30% stake....kani mari 100% stake at that rate in the recession is too worst.




It would have made sense if he did stock swap and merged the company with Satyam (Dhirubhai AMbaani of Reliance used to do this and increase his stake in the flagship company Reliance).

But he tried to take out $1.6 billion.

Duraasa dukkaniki chetu annadhi prove aindhi
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ei recession timelo antha price icchi 100 percent statke , adi kodukula companies konadam ante scam kinde lekka.Rajakeeya nayakulaki , Businesss laki teda lekunda potunnadi.

Family run business lu ilane vuntayemo , public ayyaka kuda.
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Divi-

What lands he has sold out and how much money he got from it.

Margadarsi close avvadam valla Ramoji ki loss ye kaani labham ledu . Thats a cash cow for him.

Gata 5 yeallalo enno companies entho peddavi ayyivi , infra kaani , pharma kaani ,IT kaani vere business. On contrary Ramoji ,thana growth peragadam atu vunchi the , vunnadi kuda pogottukunnadu. 5 yrs back ki , ippatii Ramoji financail ga same vunna adi loss kinde lekka .
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Onlytruth:

Pichhikaki:
Tammullu Ot post okati del aindi..mod evaro naaku artam aindi..





naakkuda eppati nuncho ardham aindhi aa MOD nenu silent...double confirmation kosam hit chesaa adhi..tagilindhi...




Oka siddanti inko vedhanthi.....jugalbandhi....

Special investagative analyst vuvachaa....

nee post nuvve delete chesukonnnava...kikikki....nee post delete chesina MOD evadino ammalakkala boothulu tittu....
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Ethical ga lafangi thanam idhi maathram.......it would have made sense if he tried to buy 25-30% stake....kani mari 100% stake at that rate in the recession is too worst.
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100% stake in real firm......looked dubious.....straight away
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Ethical ga lafangi thanam idhi maathram.......it would have made sense if he tried to buy 25-30% stake....kani mari 100% stake at that rate in the recession is too worst.
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pplsuck.....good post...meeru cheppina danto...logic undhi....ee time lo....business ela undalo...adhey positon lo unnadu....anukunta thatha......
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ivala rate enta undi satyam share?
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//PPlsuck//

good post................

One ETV employee said the same...thatha is very happy now a days ani...he is much relaxed....suman dobbesaka inka happy ayi vuntadu...
DIviseema Sky gari FAN
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Hope Satyam(SAY) bounces back to its orginal rate 12-15.

India lo kanuka Wednesday rate padakapothe NYSE lo Wednesday it will bounce. Lets wait and see
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Right or wrong I have no clue....as long as it is legal I don't care...But satyam Raju should have played this some time last year when everyone was crazy abour real estate and infra companies.....anyways bad timing......mari red handed gaa dorikipoyaadu......

Guys, cribbing on Ramoji in this thread is beyond imagination.....Ramoji lands poyinaayi, margadarsi poyindi ani enjoy cheyyakandi.....if I am reading it right, YSR probably helped (unknowingly though) Ramoji by making him sell the lands at the highest possible rates.......with the ever worsening credit crunch and possible world depression, Ramoji would have been in great trouble if Margadarsi funds were invested in non-performing assets like Land and real estate.........real estate may not see this boom in decades or beyond.......all these govt actions helped him to make the most of his lands and he is out of debts......the best possible position for any business men in these troubled times.....with Eenadu and ETV under his belt and loads of business acumen, Ramoji is gonna fare better than most others and come out with flying colors.......unless congress comes to power again and stoops to low to crush him by hook or crook.....

Lets wait and watch how the game plays out.......I just hope Ramoji does not show any inclination towards caste politics and favoritism........hope he learnt his lesson not to encourage feudal behaviour and make beasts out of men..... it almost always ends bad....
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Jalsa:

asalu in what way is this a right acquisition for an IT company?


ide question adigutaru ani ila press release icharu raju garu.

The buyout will de-risk the core business by bootstrapping a new business vertical in infrastructure. This market segment can mitigate the risks attributed to developed markets and traditional verticals that are likely to be impacted by the recessionary economy,â Ramalinga Raju said in a statement later
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asalu in what way is this a right acquisition for an IT company?
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8235 crores unte 8000 crores pedadamu anukunaru ee company, darunam idi matram. scam chedam ane chusaru raju garu.
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Onlytruth:

ATYAM officially announced the deal ......

Ramalingaraju even spoke to media/investors over conference call

&& complete report


there is some news after market..share going up....up 50% after hours
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Chantodu:

thatha tappud seyyadu..thappu ayithe court terupu seppali anthe kada OT...manollu sesthe technical loophole diff ayithe ehtickless




manodu vere vaadu endhivayya janam dabbulu denkite ? monna anthe aa acid posinodiki kuda kulam antagattaaru neechapu mentality DBers


ramoji rao evadi dabbulu denkaadu cheppu ? oh gajji patti edusthaare ?
Elaa vundalsinodu ? Ilaa ayipoyindu
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http://eenadu.net/buisnesshead.asp?myqry=5&reccount=11


SATYAM officially announced the deal ......

Ramalingaraju even spoke to media/investors over conference call

&& complete report
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Onlytruth:

OT Nee half knowldge analysis lu aaputaava?


Stock was down 65%. on that news....
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kkd mod aa?
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apsrtc,

naa half knowledge emundhi?...overvaluation is the biggest issue in this case..adhee nuvve cheptunnav...nenu cheppindhi adhe


ika idhi news dc lo vachindhi...he did not say as if it is proposal..already done annattu raasadu...
Elaa vundalsinodu ? Ilaa ayipoyindu
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OT Nee half knowldge analysis lu aaputaava? It is just a proposal and it has to go through many channels for review and approval including lame duck SEC.

Corporate governance lo it is a very common practise. The reason investers were bashing the decision was its bad timing during an IT recession and over valuation of the Maytas and Maytas infra books.
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The deal was scapped.

Satyam Computer Services (SAY, 500376.BY) said it will not proceed with its acquisitions in Maytas Properties Ltd. and Maytas Infra Ltd. (532907.BY), proposed earlier Tuesday, because of opposition from investors.

The Indian software company's American depositary receipts plunged after analysts slammed a move by the company's board to approve acquisitions in the two infrastructure companies. They were down 55% at $8.85 in after-hours trading.

Satyam Chairman B. Ramalinga Raju said late Tuesday that the company was surprised by the market reaction to the deal. "In deference to the views expressed by many investors, we have decided to call off these acquisitions."

Satyam said earlier Tuesday that its board approved a proposal to buy out Maytas Properties and acquire a 51% stake in Maytas Infra at a total cost of $1.6 billion.

Satyam's founders, led by Raju, already hold 36% in Maytas Infra and 35% in Maytas Properties. Maytas Infra is in the business of infrastructure construction, while Maytas Properties is in the field of urban infrastructure, such as integrated townships, special economic zones, hospitality and retail space.

"The shocking decision ... will likely go down as one of the worst corporate governance events in India," Bhavtosh Vajpayee and Nimish Joshi, analysts at Mumbai-based brokerage CLSA India, said in a note. They downgraded Satyam to sell from underperform.

link: http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20081216-716009.html?mod =wsjcrmain&mg=com-wsj

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it may not be illegal.. but can be un-ethical,

ilantivi final seyyadaniki board directors andaru oppukovali. mostly andariki dabbulu panchutar kabatti noru moosukontar. only issue is with valuation of MAYTAS akkada dorikite matash.. SATYAM officials not revealing who did valuation of MAYTAS, but some big 4 auditing companies..
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idle

business chese prativadu taxes ella tagginchukovalo anne chustadu, loopholes or clauses ettukontadu adi rasinodini annali businesman tappu emi vundi...

HUF lo laws kuda anthe ambiguity ga vunayi...ade follow ayyadu neeku kattanatu kanipistundi vadiki adi law laga kanipistundi...


maava chiru kuda ambiguity laws ni atukuni tana remuneration ni CCT dwara tesukunadu ani antaru, adi tappu na maava?
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business chese prativadu taxes ella tagginchukovalo anne chustadu, loopholes or clauses ettukontadu adi rasinodini annali businesman tappu emi vundi...

HUF lo laws kuda anthe ambiguity ga vunayi...ade follow ayyadu neeku kattanatu kanipistundi vadiki adi law laga kanipistundi...
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nenu inka satyam issue full ga chadavaledhu (I dont fully belive OT's version) ... I am only discoing on MD which I believe is fraud

inka ethic for taxes kosam ante, skool kattey... Thatha worst to the core in that aspect
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sodhi appu...tax kattaledu, fraud etc...nuvuu sontham gaa tax file chestunnav anni accountant deggariki velle vallandarini fraud annetattu vunnav...rules rules ee....

ikkada ramalinga raju kuda law emi break cheyaledu public company excess funds or cash ni family releated company ni ekkuva ki konnadu anthe... public reaction chussadu... 1bn ki kakruthi padithe 2-3 bn bokka aiyindi.
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30 years tax kattakunda vunte gudda musukoni kurchunnora indian govts?
nuvuu katta kunda try cheyi emi chestaro chuddam




ethickless fellow...... mana vadu backing tho nettuku vachadu....



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meeru mari cheptaru vinevadu vunte...HUF ki vunna limits lo vadu chessukontunnadu...inka cheppandi 1970 lo thatha 2008 lo scam cheddam anni decide ayyadu anni.....




manalani peekevadu ledu anee balupu tho chesaduu... siggu sharam leniii thata
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30 years tax kattakunda vunte gudda musukoni kurchunnora indian govts?
nuvuu katta kunda try cheyi emi chestaro chuddam:-)

meeru mari cheptaru vinevadu vunte...HUF ki vunna limits lo vadu chessukontunnadu...inka cheppandi 1970 lo thatha 2008 lo scam cheddam anni decide ayyadu anni.....
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Hey:

avuna????? evaru cheparu ?? YSR na
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Yesu emi pikuthunadu mari......govt ledhaa AP lo




avesa padaku supreme court lo vundi case
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inka ethics gurinchi asalu cheppakarledhu, till today 1 paisa tax kattaledhu musali Thatha


avuna????? evaru cheparu ?? YSR na
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Yesu emi pikuthunadu mari......govt ledhaa AP lo
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thatha tappud seyyadu..thappu ayithe court terupu seppali anthe kada OT...manollu sesthe technical loophole diff ayithe ehtickless
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Hey:

neeku ela fraud ani pinchindo points wise chepu ..plz


already kindha cheppa, u convinently ignored it, first point he cannot do this kind of business on HUF registered ani

inka ethics gurinchi asalu cheppakarledhu, till today 1 paisa tax kattaledhu musali Thatha
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back ichesthe fraud kada


neeku ela fraud ani pinchindo points wise chepu ..plz
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naya paisalatho saha ichessadu tessukonna dabbu nag finance and others laga kadu...siggu eggu lekunda ysr , undavalli kattaleru anni donga statements chupincharu gaa adi fraud ante....




back ichesthe fraud kada, wah... kotha logic septhunav...
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Onlytruth:

ardham pardham lekunda ee topic lo MD issue tevoddhu antunnanu, kavalante pakkana MD thread esuko..........





finance thread lo Margadarsi fraud thekudadha? Is this thread targeted to any one in particular?


yenti threads diverting gurinchi nuvvu septhunava? yee movie/politcal thread lo Chiru medha crying chesthav.. Bala Vs Chiru ki poliki vundi ani thesthava? kikikiki, lol

thata baga thagilindi congi govt, andhuke yevaru yentha desprate thelsuthundi
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Margadarsi ni finance fraud ani anakudadha? yedava sollu covering malli thatha ki

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naya paisalatho saha ichessadu tessukonna dabbu nag finance and others laga kadu...siggu eggu lekunda ysr , undavalli kattaleru anni donga statements chupincharu gaa adi fraud ante....
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Idle_yzag:

THata funding seyacha aa channel ki


thatha funding dheniki....ippudu thatha janaala kaada dobbina motham aasthini etti suman kurrod channel kontaad....all set anukuntunna....
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Idle_yzag:

yendhuku frustrate avuthunav, thatha baga dinchadu anukunta




ardham pardham lekunda ee topic lo MD issue tevoddhu antunnanu, kavalante pakkana MD thread esuko..........

taatha yesu ki dinchutaadu ga roju paapam..just cartoon esthene edusthaadu panche tadisettu...lol
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public ki private ki teda teliyani prativadu lectures ivvatame....

enti diverting funds appu tessukoni vodi ichevadu dentlo pettakunda nela nela istadu voddi kanisam alochinchava?

adi idi okkatena?




nee sodhi yenti madyalo..

private and public thelisee disco chesthunaru andaru....

Margadarsi ni finance fraud ani anakudadha? yedava sollu covering malli thatha ki
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Pavala:




annai ETV suman kotha channel start chesthunadu anta, yemaina updates vunte pettu

THata funding seyacha aa channel ki
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i quoted both nagarjuna, margadarshi for diverting funds.
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public ki private ki teda teliyani prativadu lectures ivvatame....

enti diverting funds appu tessukoni vodi ichevadu dentlo pettakunda nela nela istadu voddi kanisam alochinchava?

adi idi okkatena?
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Tandri public listed company SATYAM lo 7,665 crores funds teesukelli koduku private company MAYTAS ni takeover chesthe inkaa daanni vere ye TATA-VSNL cases thonu compare cheyyaku....



OT tamud
Talk about legal validity of the affair here. TATA VSNL ni theesukunna, Satyam Maytas ni theesukunna they all come under company law. Different laws do not apply if they two companis are owned by relatives or something else. Law is law :-)
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Onlytruth:

Nagarjuna Fin is public listed company............




entra babu nee sutthi melam.

finance scams in ap groups gurinchi septhunte, public,private antav endhi baabu nuvvu.
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Onlytruth:

0.0000000000000001 % kuda sambandham ledhu margadarsi case ki , Satyam case ki





both cases sambandam vundi ani basky cheppaledhu... Margardarsi kuda ilanti fraud business ani bazooka start chesadu nuvvu defend chesav

yendhuku frustrate avuthunav, thatha baga dinchadu anukunta
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i quoted both nagarjuna, margadarshi




Nagarjuna Fin is public listed company............

kaneesam ABCD kuda teliyakunda enduku tintaav brains ?
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dobbeyi mundu,

1st tecchindi evaro chooodu. BAZOOOKA anukunta.

valllani ante, KUMMI vodulthadu,

anduke maalanti vaala meedha neee prathapam
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Hey:

they should bro...adi valla job.....Founds collect chesi emi chestharu???/ intrest ela vasthindi




then why Thatha registered their company as HUF?
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Hey:


u can divert , but not into with vested interests.
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Basky_indya:

i quoted both nagarjuna, margadarshi for diverting funds.




first public listed company ki private firms ki difference telusko....then talk with 0.1% sense atleast

0.0000000000000001 % kuda sambandham ledhu margadarsi case ki , Satyam case ki


moorkhatvam tappite inkoti ledhu margadarsi ni mention cheyyadam
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Margadarsi collect cheyadam wrong ani till date ye court teerpu cheppaledhu school mooseyyi.....ambiguity chaala vundhi akkada rules lo.....




neeku yendhuku kalthundhii? ambugity is because thatha is backing his sin on some looopholes
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Basky_indya:

nagarjuna, margadarshi for diverting funds
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they should bro...adi valla job.....Founds collect chesi emi chestharu???/ intrest ela vasthindi
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Tandri public listed company SATYAM lo 7,665 crores funds teesukelli koduku private company MAYTAS ni takeover chesthe inkaa daanni vere ye TATA-VSNL cases thonu compare cheyyaku....

Judge merits/demerits in this particular case and then move on to next one
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mooosko nuvvu mundu.

i quoted both nagarjuna, margadarshi for diverting funds.

sarigga chadavatam nerchuko
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OK NAGARJUNA GROUP FINANCE. they collected deposits and sold the company to MUMBAI based company.

the new company is not responsible for the old depositors.

mari PUBLIC netthina TOPI pettaru.


naku idea ladu N group meda..but Margadarsi paid back....
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HUF cannot do that from PUBLIC




Margadarsi collect cheyadam wrong ani till date ye court teerpu cheppaledhu school mooseyyi.....ambiguity chaala vundhi akkada rules lo.....

ayinaa ErriP tanam kakapothe public listed satyam group lo scam jarigindhi ante margadarsi gurinchi topic enduku vosthadhi?
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corporate movie sudanhttp://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/icons/quote3.gifdi.. anni sardukuntai.






NINNA NIGHT EE CORPORATE movie choosa. chala bagundi. it true also.
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Hey:



OK NAGARJUNA GROUP FINANCE. they collected deposits and sold the company to MUMBAI based company.

the new company is not responsible for the old depositors.

mari PUBLIC netthina TOPI pettaru.
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corporate movie sudandi.. anni sardukuntai.
Murder cheste ne Puli, Kabja cheste Tiger .. Ivanni chesina vade Mukyamanthri kavadaniki arhudu ante..

Ma annayya chiru Raktham panchi, Manchi mansutho Mukyamanthri ayyi Tiger anipinchukutadu chudandi
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it was ILLEGAL tammud. vaadinchaku. HUF cannot do that from PUBLIC


if it is illegel R rao should be in jail...Yesu ki chance dorukuthey chala boka lo padesthadu
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they bought VSNL and invested in Tata Telecom just after 6 months of take over


they bought VSNL and invested VSNL's money in Tata Telecom just after 6 months of take over (this was the main point TATAs cashed)
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MAGRADARSI funds were diverted, rediverted into sister concerns




koddhiga kuda burra vundadhe....

Private financiers business antene adhi...collect money and investing somewhere else or loan out somebody else


anthegani depositors daggara velakotlu teesukoni voorake bank account lo pettukoni highest interest rate in the market pay chesthaara ?

ye vooru manadhi ?
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Hey:

its not ilegal for sure......




it was ILLEGAL tammud. vaadinchaku. HUF cannot do that from PUBLIC
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Basky_indya:

just becoz they repaid back, u cannot say ITS LEGAL.

asalu LEGAL aithe, enduku PAY-BACK chesaro.. lol

also MAGRADARSI funds
were diverted, rediverted into sister concerns.

avi LOSS choopinche tollu.. every year ..kiki


edo anali ani kani...evaraki loss vachindi mama margadarsi vallana???? eno bank lu lechi poyinayi...valla gurunchi mataladandi.......prathi daniki margadharshi thestharu
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Hey:

its not ilegal for sure......


then y dont they continue?

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OT tamud.....aveshapaduthunnaav....if you remember the TATA's deal with VSNL, they bought VSNL and invested in Tata Telecom just after 6 months of take over. Pramod Mahajan gaadu ee deal vishayamayi padi padi edchaadu, court ki ellaadu TATA ki against. Aa roju TV choosthuney cheppaa, koduku ayipoyaadu TATA tho pettukuntunnadu ani. Within 3 months he was sacked out of IT and Tele ministry and TATAs were cleared off. They used some loophole of the company law. Not exactly you can say it a "SCAM". Mundhi facts bhayataki raanee. Tharvatha threads veyyochhu.
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Basky_indya:

u cannot say ITS LEGAL.


its not ilegal for sure......
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just becoz they repaid back, u cannot say ITS LEGAL.

asalu LEGAL aithe, enduku PAY-BACK chesaro.. lol

also MAGRADARSI funds were diverted, rediverted into sister concerns.

avi LOSS choopinche tollu.. every year ..kiki
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Bazooka:

mana prejalu dasukunna dabbulu etv priya ushodaya loki poinaa danikanna pedda scam aa???


no one lost money
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Pichhikaki:

Tammullu Ot post okati del aindi..mod evaro naaku artam aindi..




naakkuda eppati nuncho ardham aindhi aa MOD :-) nenu silent...double confirmation kosam hit chesaa adhi..tagilindhi...:D
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Bazooka:

mana prejalu dasukunna dabbulu etv priya ushodaya loki poinaa danikanna pedda scam aa




margadarsi is 100% private owned company, investors also private ...vallaki vallaki ishtam aithe (konni rules ki lobadi) elaa ayinaa kummukovachu


but still, prajala dabbu vaddi tho sahaa single day kuda yenadu delay kakunda pay chesaaru.....margadarsi case lo all investors paid back their depsoits too
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mana prejalu dasukunna dabbulu etv priya ushodaya loki poinaa danikanna pedda scam aa???
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Section 420, Bailable :D
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Tammullu Ot post okati del aindi..mod evaro naaku artam aindi..kurrollu nannu denkulu edutaru nenu jump..
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Powerfull:

Is this okay as per SEBI (something like SEC here?) rules?





technical ga anthaa correct gane untadhi..key is: they highly over valuated MYTAS....akkada scam chesinru


X company value intha, so danni kontunnam inthaki annaaka...inkenti ?
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Is this okay as per SEBI (something like SEC here?) rules?
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Pichhikaki:

Ot tammudu, ante aa 6,228 crores + 1,437 Crores Raju gari kata loki poyaya??




YES , TEJA RAJU(MAYTAS) personal KHAATHA LOKI ROYAL GA LOYAL GA VELLAAYI

Ekkadi nunchi vellaayi ? SATYAM group khaatha lo nunchi
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Satyam group public money tho run ayyedi.. okay.. mari board of directors edavala? Why they didnt object buying a stake in Maytas? Jenaala paisal thote nadustadi.. kaanee prathee okkadoo decision maker kaaledu kadaa?
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Ot tammudu, ante aa 6,228 crores + 1,437 Crores Raju gari kata loki poyaya??
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Jagan.. 4 years lo 5000 kotlaki adipathi kavadam kante pedda scam..
Murder cheste ne Puli, Kabja cheste Tiger .. Ivanni chesina vade Mukyamanthri kavadaniki arhudu ante..

Ma annayya chiru Raktham panchi, Manchi mansutho Mukyamanthri ayyi Tiger anipinchukutadu chudandi
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idhi MANY GROUPS DO.
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Let me put it in simplest way for better understanding of the readers

1. SATYAM , MAYTAS rendu okate family vi
2. SATYAM public listed company,public money tho run ayye company
3. MAYTAS 100% privately owned company
4. SATYAM COMPANY has 8,392 Crores reserve funds which is supposedly for distributing to share holders
5. Instead satyam paid 6,228 crores to Maytas Properties(100% stake)
6. && Another 1,437 Crores to Maytas Infra(51% stake)


Magnitude of the scam adirindhi....


* Naannaa naa company value 7,665 kotlu ani koduku teja raju cheppaadu

** Avunu kodakaa nee company value 7,665 kotlE ani tandri ramalingaraaju konesaadu public dabbu petti
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Source:

September 31.





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too bad...
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Tammullu matter artham aitte cheppandi..Raju garu evidanga mosam sesado if possible!!
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The government has promised to examine the fine print. "We do not know the facts of the deal right now. But if there is a violation of the Companies Act, we are going to look into it," the corporate affairs minister, Mr P.C. Gupta, said in New Delhi. The deal has evoked sharp criticism from some Satyam shareholders such as SBI Mutual Fund, Reliance MF and Templeton MF.

A representative of Templeton said that they were "totally opposed" to the decision. "We do think that returning money to the shareholder is a better option," he said. Terming the deal "unethical", the Hyderabad based technical analyst, Mr Kumtuba Rao, said the move would hit the company badly. "Satyam has valued Maytas Properties more than the top five realty majors," he said.
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Rajus make $1.5b, shortchange investors


Hyderabad/New Delhi, Dec. 16: Satyam Computer Services Ltd gave its investors a nasty jolt on Tuesday, acquiring Maytas Properties for $1.3 billion (Rs 6,228 crore) and taking a 51 per cent stake in Maytas Infra for $0.3 billion (Rs 1,437 crore). The deal means that Satyam's 2.1-lakh shareholders will not get a slice of the Rs 8,392-crore reserves that the company held on September 31.

There were questions about Satyam, India's fourth largest tech firm, picking up infrastructure firms instead of tech firms. If it had to be infra firms, why Maytas, investors asked. Moreover, Satyam had grossly over-valued Maytas Infra. Analysts called the deal "unethical". Both firms are promoted by the Satyam Computers' promoters and headed by Satyam Computers chairman Ramalinga Raju's son Teja Raju.

Maytas Properties is an unlisted company owned by Mr Ramalinga Raju's family, his relatives and friends. The promoters have a 36 per cent share in Maytas Infra, which was listed last year. The Rajus and their associates stand to make nearly $1.48 billion (Rs 7,665 crore) from Tuesday's deal. In the first market reaction, Satyam's American Depository Receipts shed more than 50 per cent in New York. It was trading at $5.43 on the NYSE.
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