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     Mallik Comedian Username: Mallik Post Number: 1957 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 69.27.233.254 Rating: N/A |
There is a difference between Spiritualism and Intelligence. You dont have to be spiritualistic to be intelligent.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  | ||
| Mallik Comedian Username: Mallik Post Number: 1956 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 69.27.233.254 Rating: N/A |
Anduke maama.. ee DB lo naaku meeree naa guruvu gaaru..  In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1949 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
MS, A colleague said to me, human psychology needs closure - we cannot leave things open-ended cos they make us uncomfortable..so we find reasons/causes for the unexplainable..either science or God or aliens that best fit our preset values or completely negate them saying nothing other that what I see exists or could have existed  We (using generically - do not mean you personally) only view the world from our point of view/our paradigm and fit everything around us to our paradigm... We draw a line of boundary based on our set of values-our glasses to view the world - the philosophies we include in our circle are right to us and everything outside is wrong ..With the best of intentions we then try to correct people who do not follow our paradigm IBV, You have defined your nirvana and charted a path to it...the question I have always wanted to ask you is do you feel fulfilled , happy and at peace today ? If life stayed for you exactly as it was today for the rest of your life - would you stay happy ? Zulu, I think Vivekananda's works appeal to many because they were tailored to an audience that had no knowledge of the Hindu scripture...making them very comprehensible for the current generations...and is a good starter also he did a pretty compelling sales job for the Hindu religion to the west giving him a place of favoraa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 615 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: |
that sums up for me, If you are argument is the GOAL is set by you for everybody, or if you think that there is only one GOAL for everybody else, this discussion ends here, as we disagree at the most basic assumption we are using in the discussion until and unless you try to understand that, every individual has the right to set his own goal, you will never be able to understand why each individual tries to lead a different life. If you think that human intelligence is not a part of being human, then you have to understand that the in the GOAL prescribed by you, fighting disease, how does a human recognize that kind of action. His mind has to permit this, his intelligence has to understand that. If you think that human intelligence only needs to bother about diseases with the vast capabilities of the brain it has, then i will only think that you already have a preconceived goal set in you mind and trying to use the argument to reach the goal, where as i am using my argument to reach a goal. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1943 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
Man's intelligence has not just destroyed earth, it is threatening the existence of gender differentiation - read an article the other day on the feminisation of the male of all species ... gender bending trends... Right or wrong - humans have evolved to a state where we define our own goals and parameters for whether our life is a success or a waste... Low level animals keep the earth in harmony ante why should humans even fight disease - survival of the fittest will weed out the unfit, right ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
Mary ?? | ||
| Ibviewer Junior Artist Username: Ibviewer Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 67.164.117.64 Rating: N/A |
Once a thin guy came to Swami Vivekananda and asked him how he can get spiritual enlightenment. Then the Swami said "first you have to physically strong then only you can think of spiritualism. So first go and play food ball" Here Swami vivekananda is emphasizing the physical than the spiritual (infact there is no such thing call spiritual). Mallik,
In the puranas the gods married and had multiple wives. If Ramakrishna Paramahamsa is not interested in making love he should have married 5 yr old Sarada Devi. If he did it now he would have behind the bars. Getafix,
Bullshit! If they are in the ultimate step then they would be having fun with many women. That is the ultimate thing for a man. Similarly woman have multi-orgasmic nature. So they look for multiple partners. Having multiple partners is ultimate step for them. Having beautuful face, beautiful physique all are for that purpose only. Anand,
The instinct for propagation is not reduced by population explosion. When a guy looses his job then the instinct for propagation will be even more. He will get more erections. This is statistically proved. Population explosion is reduced because of birth control. 50 years back women had 12 to 20 children (best of them survived). Now even the weak are surviving due to medicine. The gaol of man is not spiritualism but to fight disease and propagate life. Man's intelligence has destroyed the earth. Low level animls keep the earth in harmony. | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 30 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
I think knowledge of death is nothing but the realization of completion of work on this earth. but knowing some thing is different from making a decision. so if we think they made the decision, then can we think they are part of ( or they are) the ultimate power? | ||
| Zulu Comedian Username: Zulu Post Number: 1404 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.112.166.134 Rating: N/A |
Ehe ippude choosa ibviewer vochadu..DB ki kala vachindi..Welcome..welcome.  Think Global,Act Local | ||
| Zulu Comedian Username: Zulu Post Number: 1403 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.112.166.134 Rating: N/A |
Vivekandanda is the Che Guevara of Hindu Spirituality. Classic poster boy for spiritual enthusiasts..em cheppado thelisina theliyapoyina room for folded hands tho unna oka poster pedatharu.. Think Global,Act Local | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1942 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
One of my favorite excerpts from the works of Vivekananda - Volume 5 - a Hindu philosophy discussion from 1896 A DISCUSSION (This discussion followed the lecture on the Vedanta Philosophy delivered by the Swami at the Graduate Philosophical Society of Harvard University, U. S. A., on March 25, 1896. (Vol. I. )) Q. — I should like to know something about the present activity of philosophic thought in India. To what extent are these questions discussed? A. — As I have said, the majority of the Indian people are practically dualists, and the minority are monists. The main subject of discussion is Mâyâ and Jiva. When I came to this country, I found that the labourers were informed of the present condition of politics; but when I asked them, "What is religion, and what are the doctrines of this and that particular sect?" they said, "We do not know; we go to church." In India if I go to a peasant and ask him, "Who governs you?" he says, "I do not know; I pay my taxes." But if I ask him what is his religion, he says, "I am a dualist", and is ready to give you the details about Maya and Jiva. He cannot read or write, but he has learned all this from the monks and is very fond of discussing it. After the day's work, the peasants sit under a tree and discuss these questions. Q. — What does orthodoxy mean with the Hindus? A. — In modern times it simply means obeying certain caste laws as to eating, drinking, and marriage. After that the Hindu can believe in any system he likes. There was never an organised church in India; so there was never a body of men to formulate doctrines of orthodoxy. In a general way, we say that those who believe in the Vedas are orthodox; but in reality we find that many of the dualistic sects believe more in the Purânas than in the Vedas alone. Q. — What influence had your Hindu philosophy on the Stoic philosophy of the Greeks? A. — It is very probable that it had some influence on it through the Alexandrians. There is some suspicion of Pythagoras' being influenced by the Sânkhya thought. Anyway, we think the Sankhya philosophy is the first attempt to harmonise the philosophy of the Vedas through reason. We find Kapila mentioned even in the Vedas: " — He who (supports through knowledge) the first-born sage Kapila." Q. — What is the antagonism of this thought with Western science? A. — No antagonism at all. We are in harmony with it. Our theory of evolution and of Âkâsha and Prâna is exactly what your modern philosophies have. Your belief in evolution is among our Yogis and in the Sankhya philosophy. For instance, Patanjali speaks of one species being changed into another by the infilling of nature — ""; only he differs from you in the explanation. His explanation of this evolution is spiritual. He says that just as when a farmer wants to water his field from the canals that pass near, he has only to lift up gate — "" — so each man is the Infinite already, only these bars and bolts and different circumstances shut him in; but as soon as they are removed, he rushes out and expresses himself. In the animal, the man was held in abeyance; but as soon as good circumstances came, he was manifested as man. And again, as soon as fitting circumstances came, the God in man manifested itself. So we have very little to quarrel with in the new theories. For instance, the theory of the Sankhya as to perception is very little different from modern physiology. Q. — But your method is different? A. — Yes. We claim that concentrating the powers of the mind is the only way to knowledge. In external science, concentration of mind is — putting it on something external; and in internal science, it is — drawing towards one's Self. We call this concentration of mind Yoga. Q. — In the state of concentration does the truth of these principles become evident? A.— The Yogis claim a good deal. They claim that by concentration of the mind every truth in the universe becomes evident to the mind, both external and internal truth. Q. — What does the Advaitist think of cosmology? A. — The Advaitist would say that all this cosmology and everything else are only in Maya, in the phenomenal world. In truth they do not exist. But as long as we are bound, we have to see these visions. Within these visions things come in a certain regular order. Beyond them there is no law and order, but freedom. Q. — Is the Advaita antagonistic to dualism? A. — The Upanishads not being in a systematised form, it was easy for philosophers to take up texts when they liked to form a system. The Upanishads had always to be taken, else there would be no basis. Yet we find all the different schools of thought in the Upanishads. Our solution is that the Advaita is not antagonistic to the Dvaita (dualism). We say the latter is only one of three steps. Religion always takes three steps. The first is dualism. Then man gets to a higher state, partial non-dualism. And at last he finds he is one with the universe. Therefore the three do not contradict but fulfil. Q. — Why does Maya or ignorance exist? A. — "Why" cannot be asked beyond the limit of causation. It can only be asked within Maya. We say we will answer the question when it is logically formulated. Before that we have no right to answer. Q.— Does the Personal God belong to Maya? A. — Yes; but the Personal God is the same Absolute seen through Maya. That Absolute under the control of nature is what is called the human soul; and that which is controlling nature is Ishvara, or the Personal God. If a man starts from here to see the sun, he will see at first a little sun; but as he proceeds he will see it bigger and bigger, until he reaches the real one. At each stage of his progress he was seeing apparently a different sun; yet we are sure it was the same sun he was seeing. So all these things are but visions of the Absolute, and as such they are true. Not one is a false vision, but we can only say they were lower stages. Q. — What is the special process by which one will come to know the Absolute? A. — We say there are two processes. One is the positive, and the other, the negative. The positive is that through which the whole universe is going — that of love. If this circle of love is increased indefinitely, we reach the one universal love. The other is the "Neti", "Neti" — "not this", "not this" — stopping every wave in the mind which tries to draw it out; and at last the mind dies, as it were, and the Real discloses Itself. We call that Samâdhi, or superconsciousness. Q. — That would be, then, merging the subject in the object! A. — Merging the object in the subject, not merging the subject in the object. Really this world dies, and I remain. I am the only one that remains. Q. — Some of our philosophers in Germany have thought that the whole doctrine of Bhakti (Love for the Divine) in India was very likely the result of occidental influence. A. — I do not take any stock in that — the assumption was ephemeral. The Bhakti of India is not like the Western Bhakti. The central idea of ours is that there is no thought of fear. It is always, love God. There is no worship through fear, but always through love, from beginning to end. In the second place, the assumption is quite unnecessary. Bhakti is spoken of in the oldest of the Upanishads, which is much older than the Christian Bible. The germs of Bhakti are even in the Samhitâ (the Vedic hymns). The word Bhakti is not a Western word. It was suggested by the word Shraddhâ. Q. — What is the Indian idea of the Christian faith? A. — That it is very good. The Vedanta will take in every one. We have a peculiar idea in India. Suppose I had a child. I should not teach him any religion; I should teach him breathings — the practice of concentrating the mind, and just one line of prayer — not prayer in your sense, but simply something like this, "I meditate on Him who is the Creator of this universe: may He enlighten my mind I " That way he would be educated, and then go about hearing different philosophers and teachers. He would select one who, he thought, would suit him best; and this man would become his Guru or teacher, and he would become a Shishya or disciple. He would say to that man, "This form of philosophy which you preach is the best; so teach me." Our fundamental idea is that your doctrine cannot be mine, or mine yours. Each one must have his own way. My daughter may have one method, and my son another, and I again another. So each one has an Ishta or chosen way, and we keep it to ourselves. It is between me and my teacher, because we do not want to create a fight. It will not help any one to tell it to others, because each one will have to find his own way. So only general philosophy and general methods can be taught universally. For instance, giving a ludicrous example, it may help me to stand on one leg. It would be ludicrous to you if I said every one must do that, but it may suit me. It is quite possible for me to be a dualist and for my wife to be a monist, and so on. One of my sons may worship Christ or Buddha or Mohammed, so long as he obeys the caste laws. That is his own Ishta. Q. — Do all Hindus believe in caste? A. — They are forced to. They may not believe, but they have to obey. Q. — Are these exercises in breathing and concentration universally practiced? A. — Yes; only some practice only a little, just to satisfy the requirements of their religion. The temples in India are not like the churches here. They may all vanish tomorrow, and will not be missed. A temple is built by a man who wants to go to heaven, or to get a son, or something of that sort. So he builds a large temple and employs a few priests to hold services there. I need not go there at all, because all my worship is in the home. In every house is a special room set apart, which is called the chapel. The first duty of the child, after his initiation, is to take a bath, and then to worship; and his worship consists of this breathing and meditating and repeating of a certain name. And another thing is to hold the body straight. We believe that the mind has every power over the body to keep it healthy. After one has done this, then another comes and takes his seat, and each one does it in silence. Sometimes there are three or four in the same room, but each one may have a different method. This worship is repeated at least twice a day. Q. — This state of oneness that you speak of, is it an ideal or something actually attained? A. — We say it is within actuality; we say we realise that state. If it were only in talk, it would be nothing. The Vedas teach three things: this Self is first to be heard, then to be reasoned, and then to be meditated upon. When a man first hears it, he must reason on it, so that he does not believe it ignorantly, but knowingly; and after reasoning what it is, he must meditate upon it, and then realise it. And that is religion. Belief is no part of religion. We say religion is a superconscious state. Q. — If you ever reach that state of superconsciousness, can you ever tell about it? A. — No; but we know it by its fruits. An idiot, when he goes to sleep, comes out of sleep an idiot or even worse. But another man goes into the state of meditation, and when he comes out he is a philosopher, a sage, a great man. That shows the difference between these two states. Q. — I should like to ask, in continuation of Professor —'s question, whether you know of any people who have made any study of the principles of self-hypnotism, which they undoubtedly practiced to a great extent in ancient India, and what has been recently stated and practiced in that thing. Of course you do not have it so much in modern India. A. — What you call hypnotism in the West is only a part of the real thing. The Hindus call it self-hypnotisation. They say you are hypnotised already, and that you should get out of it and de-hypnotise yourself. "There the sun cannot illume, nor the moon, nor the stars; the flash of lightning cannot illume that; what to speak of this mortal fire! That shining, everything else shines" (Katha Upanishad, II ii. 15). That is not hypnotisation, but de-hypnotisation. We say that every other religion that preaches these things as real is practicing a form of hypnotism. It is the Advaitist alone that does not care to be hypnotised. His is the only system that more or less understands that hypnotism comes with every form of dualism. But the Advaitist says, throw away even the Vedas, throw away even the Personal God, throw away even the universe, throw away even your own body and mind, and let nothing remain, in order to get rid of hypnotism perfectly. "From where the mind comes back with speech, being unable to reach, knowing the Bliss of Brahman, no more is fear." That is de-hypnotisation. "I have neither vice nor virtue, nor misery nor happiness; I care neither for the Vedas nor sacrifices nor ceremonies; I am neither food nor eating nor eater, for I am Existence Absolute, Knowledge Absolute, Bliss Absolute; I am He, I am He." We know all about hypnotism. We have a psychology which the West is just beginning to know, but not yet adequately, I am sorry to say. Q. — What do you call the astral body? A. — The astral body is what we call the Linga Sharira. When this body dies, how can it come to take another body? Force cannot remain without matter. So a little part of the fine matter remains, through which the internal organs make another body — for each one is making his own body; it is the mind that makes the body. If I become a sage, my brain gets changed into a sage's brain; and the Yogis say that even in this life a Yogi can change his body into a god-body. The Yogis show many wonderful things. One ounce of practice is worth a thousand pounds of theory. So I have no right to say that because I have not seen this or that thing done, it is false. Their books say that with practice you can get all sorts of results that are most wonderful. Small results can be obtained in a short time by regular practice, so that one may know that there is no humbug about it, no charlatanism. And these Yogis explain the very wonderful things mentioned in all scriptures in a scientific way. The question is, how these records of miracles entered into every nation. The man, who says that they are all false and need no explanation, is not rational. You have no right to deny them until you can prove them false. You must prove that they are without any foundation, and only then have you the right to stand up and deny them. But you have not done that. On the other hand, the Yogis say they are not miracles, and they claim that they can do them even today. Many wonderful things are done in India today. But none of them are done by miracles. There are many books on the subject. Again, if nothing else has been done in that line except a scientific approach towards psychology, that credit must be given to the Yogis. Q. — Can you say in the concrete what the manifestations are which the Yogi can show? A. — The Yogi wants no faith or belief in his science but that which is given to any other science, just enough gentlemanly faith to come and make the experiment. The ideal of the Yogi is tremendous. I have seen the lower things that can be done by the power of the mind, and therefore, I have no right to disbelieve that the highest things can be done. The ideal of the Yogi is eternal peace and love through omniscience and omnipotence. I know a Yogi who was bitten by a cobra, and who fell down on the ground. In the evening he revived again, and when asked what happened, he said: "A messenger came from my Beloved." All hatred and anger and jealousy have been burnt out of this man. Nothing can make him react; he is infinite love all the time, and he is omnipotent in his power of love. That is the real Yogi. And this manifesting different things is accidental on the way. That is not what he wants to attain. The Yogi says, every man is a slave except the Yogi. He is a slave of food, to air, to his wife, to his children, to a dollar, slave to a nation, slave to name and fame, and to a thousand things in this world. The man who is not controlled by any one of these bandages is alone a real man, a real Yogi. "They have conquered relative existence in this life who are firm-fixed in sameness. God is pure and the same to all. Therefore such are said to be living in God" (Gita, V. 19). Q. — Do the Yogis attach any importance to caste? A. — No; caste is only the training school for undeveloped minds. Q. — Is there no connection between this idea of super-consciousness and the heat of India? A. — I do not think so; because all this philosophy was thought out fifteen thousand feet above the level of the sea, among the Himalayas, in an almost Arctic temperature. Q. — Is it practicable to attain success in a cold climate? A. — It is practicable, and the only thing that is practicable in this world. We say you are a born Vedantist, each one of you. You are declaring your oneness with everything each moment you live. Every time that your heart goes out towards the world, you are a true Vedantist, only you do not know it. You are moral without knowing why; and the Vedanta is the philosophy which analysed and taught man to be moral consciously. It is the essence of all religions. Q. — Should you say that there is an unsocial principle in our Western people, which makes us so pluralistic, and that Eastern people are more sympathetic than we are? A. — I think the Western people are more cruel, and the Eastern people have more mercy towards all beings. But that is simply because your civilisation is very much more recent. It takes time to make a thing come under the influence of mercy. You have a great deal of power, and the power of control of the mind has especially been very little practiced. It will take time to make you gentle and good. This feeling tingles in every drop of blood in India. If I go to the villages to teach the people politics, they will not understand; but if I go to teach them Vedanta, they will say, "Now, Swami, you are all right". That Vairâgya, non-attachment, is everywhere in India, even today. We are very much degenerated now; but kings will give up their thrones and go about the country without anything. In some places the common village-girl with her spinning-wheel says, "Do not talk to me of dualism; my spinning-wheel says 'Soham, Soham' — 'I am He, I am He.'" Go and talk to these people, and ask them why it is that they speak so and yet kneel before that stone. They will say that with you religion means dogma, but with them realisation. "I will be a Vedantist", one of them will say, "only when all this has vanished, and I have seen the reality. Until then there is no difference between me and the ignorant. So I am using these stones and am going to temples, and so on, to come to realisation. I have heard, but I want to see and realise." "Different methods of speech, different manners of explaining the meaning of the scriptures — these are only for the enjoyment of the learned, not for freedom" (Shankara). It is realisation which leads us to that freedom. Q. — Is this spiritual freedom among the people consistent with attention to caste? A. — Certainly not. They say there should be no caste. Even those who are in caste say it is not a very perfect institution. But they say, when you find us another and a better one, we will give it up. They say, what will you give us instead? Where is there no caste? In your nation you are struggling all the time to make a caste. As soon as a man gets a bag of dollars, he says, "I am one of the Four Hundred." We alone have succeeded in making a permanent caste. Other nations are struggling and do not succeed. We have superstitions and evils enough. Would taking the superstitions and evils from your country mend matters? It is owing to caste that three hundred millions of people can find a piece of bread to eat yet. It is an imperfect institution, no doubt. But if it had not been for caste, you would have had no Sanskrit books to study. This caste made walls, around which all sorts of invasions rolled and surged, but found it impossible to break through. That necessity has not gone yet; so caste remains. The caste we have now is not that of seven hundred years ago. Every blow has riveted it. Do you realise that India is the only country that never went outside of itself to conquer? The great emperor Asoka insisted that none of his descendants should go to conquer. If people want to send us teachers, let them help, but not injure. Why should all these people come to conquer the Hindus? Did they do any injury to any nation? What little good they could do, they did for the world. They taught it science, philosophy, religion, and civilised the savage hordes of the earth. And this is the return — only murder and tyranny, and calling them heathen rascals. Look at the books written on India by Western people and at the stories of many travellers who go there; in retaliation for what injuries are these hurled at them? Q. — What is the Vedantic idea of civilisation? A. — You are philosophers, and you do not think that a bag of gold makes the difference between man and man. What is the value of all these machines and sciences? They have only one result: they spread knowledge. You have not solved the problem of want, but only made it keener. Machines do not solve the poverty question; they simply make men struggle the more. Competition gets keener. What value has nature in itself? Why do you go and build a monument to a man who sends electricity through a wire? Does not nature do that millions of times over? Is not everything already existing in nature? What is the value of your getting it? It is already there. The only value is that it makes this development. This universe is simply a gymnasium in which the soul is taking exercise; and after these exercises we become gods. So the value of everything is to be decided by how far it is a manifestation of God. Civilisation is the manifestation of that divinity in man. Q. — Have the Buddhists any caste laws? A. — The Buddhists never had much caste, and there are very few Buddhists in India. Buddha was a social reformer. Yet in Buddhistic countries I find that there have been strong attempts to manufacture caste, only they have failed. The Buddhists' caste is practically nothing, but they take pride in it in their own minds. Buddha was one of the Sannyâsins of the Vedanta. He started a new sect, just as others are started even today. The ideas which now are called Buddhism were not his. They were much more ancient. He was a great man who gave the ideas power. The unique element in Buddhism was its social element. Brahmins and Kshatriyas have always been our teachers, and most of the Upanishads were written by Kshatriyas, while the ritualistic portions of the Vedas came from the Brahmins. Most of our great teachers throughout India have been Kshatriyas, and were always universal in their teachings; whilst the Brahmana prophets with two exceptions were very exclusive. Râma, Krishna, and Buddha — worshipped as Incarnations of God — were Kshatriyas. Q. — Are sects, ceremonies, and scriptures helps to realisation? A. — When a man realises, he gives up everything. The various sects and ceremonies and books, so far as they are the means of arriving at that point, are all right. But when they fail in that, we must change them. "The knowing one must not despise the condition of those who are ignorant, nor should the knowing one destroy the faith; of the ignorant in their own particular method, but by proper action lead them and show them the path to comes to where he stands" (Gita, III. 26). Q. — How does the Vedanta explain individuality and ethics? A. — The real individual is the Absolute; this personalisation is through Maya. It is only apparent; in reality it is always the Absolute. In reality there is one, but ins Maya it is appearing as many. In Maya there is this variation. Yet even in this Maya there is always the tendency to, get back to the One, as expressed in all ethics and all morality of every nation, because it is the constitutional necessity of the soul. It is finding its oneness; and this struggle to find this oneness is what we call ethics and morality. Therefore we must always practice them. Q. — Is not the greater part of ethics taken up with the relation between individuals? A. — That is all it is. The Absolute does not come within Maya. Q. — You say the individual is the Absolute, and I was going to ask you whether the individual has knowledge. A. — The state of manifestation is individuality, and the light in that state is what we call knowledge. To use, therefore, this term knowledge for the light of the Absolute is not precise, as the absolute state transcends relative knowledge. Q. — Does it include it? A. — Yes, in this sense. Just as a piece of gold can be changed into all sorts of coins, so with this. The state can be broken up into all sorts of knowledge. It is the state of superconsciousness, and includes both consciousness and unconsciousnes. The man who attains that state has all that we call knowledge. When he wants to realise that consciousness of knowledge, he has to go a step lower. Knowledge is a lower state; it is only in Maya that we can have knowledge. >> aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Basky_indya Hero Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 13914 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 65.30.78.134 Rating: N/A |
there r certain nerves in our body, when tweaked hty give instant death mY Telugu Divine www.gurugeetha.blogspot.com | ||
| Basky_indya Hero Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 13913 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 65.30.78.134 Rating: N/A |
samaadhi lo direct death choodaru anukunta. unconscoiusness vasthundi. mY Telugu Divine www.gurugeetha.blogspot.com | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1941 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.216.128.8 Rating: N/A |
7kondalu, mahasamadhi loki vellatam chala examples unnayi but vallu chala matuku years ahead predict chesaru that they will die in a certain timeframe...so that raises the question is death predestined and knowing that they go into samadhi or they actually make a conscious decision that their work on earth is done today so they can die tomorrow -if you get what I mean.. aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| 7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 24 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 76.93.141.251 Rating: N/A |
pothuluri brahmam garu alaa mahasamadhi lo ki vellaru ani chebuthaaru. recent past lo mummudivaram balayogi gurinchi kooda alane annaru kaani, dont know much about him. | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1940 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
I am not so sure they do.. they may have prescience of when they die but not when they choose to die...can you recall someone who said on the spur of the momemnt I am ready to die today and went into mahasamdhi ?
I think acheivement is a parameter you set for yourself - okadiki everest ekkatam acheivement , inkokadiki bank lo billion dollars acheivement , inkokadiki emi cheyyakunda life gadipeyatam kuda acheivement emo Fulfilment is only when you acheive something you crave - same with motherhood... If you believe propagation of life is the only raison d etre then yes if you don't procreate , life is a waste... but humans have developed an identity beyond that and the need for procreation has gone down with the population explosion , so it may just be an adaptation to the environment too that the instinct for procreation is not as strong today as it was before ... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Getafix Comedian Username: Getafix Post Number: 1272 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
I believe the context of attributing divinity was not just based on mortality or immortality. But then, attributing divinity is a choice. | ||
| Mallik Comedian Username: Mallik Post Number: 1865 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 69.45.100.129 Rating: N/A |
Mari spiritual life lead cheshinru kadaa.. enduku atla cheshinru.. penli cheskoni koodaa spiritual life lead cheyyalemaa? In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 798 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.228.251 Rating: N/A |
Great souls have control over not just their death but even their birth.. lets leave birth aside.. if someone suffers death with all the attendant baggage.. its hard to attribute divinity... | ||
| Getafix Comedian Username: Getafix Post Number: 1271 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Bharatham lo krishnudu anthati vaade boyavani banam ki pranam odiladu. Body is always mortal.it is the soul that is persistent. | ||
| Getafix Comedian Username: Getafix Post Number: 1270 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
They might have already gone through karma yoga where they might have married,made love and spawned children in thier past lives. I believe they were at ultimate step in thier journey to unite with paramatman or supreme consciousness.They already have passed karma yoga, bhakthi yoga and they were in jnana yoga - which is the final stage for atman to unite with paramatman or the supreme. | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 797 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.228.251 Rating: N/A |
Some saints entered Mahasamadhi sort of thing.. but.. when I think of Vivekananda.. he used to say that youth should pump in iron or something.. but he himself died young due to diabetes I guess.. when I think of how susceptible a mortal he was.. his message appears diluted afterall.. Maa oorlo oka yoga teacher unnaru.. karma kaali ayanaki Heart attack occhindi.. ayanni paramarshinchadaaniki occhina vallantha.. 'arere yoga teacher iyyundi meeku Heart attack ela occhindi saar' ani paapam chavagottaru... | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 607 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: |
Observation becomes an opinion when you apply it in instances, where the subject of observation changes. You have observed various people and used your observation, to give an opinion about rama krishna paramahimsa and others. Rama krishna paramahimsa, ramana maharshi's definition of life is not the same as you or myself think life is. So your subjective or objective analysis based on observations you made only gives your view. your view is based on how you understand the world. In the grand scheme of things right and wrong, useful and waste are nothing but the comparisions you make to keep yourself in unision with the society around you. If you are tying to fit someone who leads a life that is not in parallel with the rest of the society, it does seem like an crazy, useless act. "Their holy spiritual endeavors did not help them" i do not think they ever opined that their spiritual endeavors would help them in leading a phyisically enhanced life. I strongly feel that was not their goal, nor they tried to achieve that. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Ibviewer Junior Artist Username: Ibviewer Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 72.11.83.170 Rating: N/A |
It is not a view or opinion. Is is an observation. After observing many women who became mothers I felt like that. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi just wasted their lives. At the end they suffered from cancer and died. Their holy spiritual endeavors did not help them. | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Side Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 2559 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
ippude kurradu illale ee jagathiki jeevana jyothi pata vinnattunnadu! Ekkado munigi ikkada tela | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 606 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
Welcome back babai, Congrats on your GC. EE paina statement evari view lo? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Ibviewer Junior Artist Username: Ibviewer Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 72.11.83.170 Rating: N/A |
I recently got green card and hence exploring the freedom. After the crowd left Idlebrain DB I lost interest in discussions. After a long time I stumbled on this website and discovered the same guys. Yes I remember everyone including battalsatti! I might have missed very interesting discussions. Nowadays I am getting little time to surf the internet and I have a fear that these discussions boards have virus and spyware/adware/keyloggers etc., I am surfing from a public computer. Coming to the topic I haven't gone through the posting but one comment I would like to make. What did Vivekananda achieve if he did not make love to a woman and made children? Also the holy mother Sarada Devi should have provoked Ramakrishna and had children through him. Her life is just wasted. Fulfilment for a woman comes only when she becomes a mother by having a child. | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1925 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Talchukogane pratyaksham ayyaru How are you ?aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Side Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 2543 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
vaarni nenu pilvangane vassadu with april id ante evro mod ani guessing.. Ekkado munigi ikkada tela | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 597 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
glad to see you again. Where in SC to Where in CA. I have a friend who from SC to CA recently. kompa dheesi same aa ani doubt vasthundhi the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mallik Comedian Username: Mallik Post Number: 1824 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 69.27.233.254 Rating: N/A |
Mama.. howdy.. nenu battalsatti ni..gurthunnaanaa? nuvvu okkanve miss ainav ani thega feel ainaa hinni dinaal..  In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Ibviewer Junior Artist Username: Ibviewer Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 72.11.83.170 Rating: N/A |
I have relocated from South Carolina to California | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1917 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
Maanesaru anukunta Nisarga kuda visiting professor ayipoyaru ...so aa triple, quadruple centuries kashtame aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| 3t3 Junior Artist Username: 3t3 Post Number: 240 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 216.188.251.236 Rating: N/A |
CCDB lo post chestunnada eena? | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Side Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 2537 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.19.205.131 Rating: N/A |
IB viewr kurrad ravali ee thed 300 kottali Ekkado munigi ikkada tela | ||
| Kalikaalam Comedian Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 1002 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 72.78.110.209 Rating: N/A |
Asalu 'Devudu' antu vunte kahchitham gaa female ayi vundaali anedi naafeeling. "Godliness' ane quality men ki antha gaa nappadu. aa sensitiveness,divinity maga vaalla ku vundadu anukontaa.. | ||
| Bicchapathi Comedian Username: Bicchapathi Post Number: 1904 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 141.158.20.2 Rating: N/A |
vammo.. eee thread enti ila undi Murder cheste ne Puli, Kabja cheste Tiger .. Ivanni chesina vade Mukyamanthri kavadaniki arhudu ante.. Ma annayya chiru Raktham panchi, Manchi mansutho Mukyamanthri ayyi Tiger anipinchukutadu chudandi | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1916 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
Interestingly this was the concept propagated by the guy in Cocanada's link... That aliens came and settled down on earth ...brought advanced science with them from outer space...HAve seen that theory and websites devoted to "evidence" of that theory before... If that assumption is right - it seems it would have aliens from different planets descend in close proximity in places like India resulting in the clash of civilizations later aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 777 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.226.97 Rating: N/A |
That is just another of the sub-cultures of Hinduism.. like Saakteyam.. each sub-culture proclaims the finality of that particular deity...
Only when Purusha lays down Prakriti does the cycle of creation continues.. thats the very essence of Universal motion.. now what exactly is Prakriti and Purusha.. it may very well be that the Goddesses on various Earths in the Universe are Prakriti.. while Purusha are divine Cosmic ETs who Progenerate in conjunction with Prakriti.. no wonder the roots always lie in the Earthly Goddesses.. Man is from Mars.. Women are from Earth.. | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1883 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
Thanks very interesting theories aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1882 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: |
 Idea bagundi Kani chinna doubt - conversion anedi Caucasian concept ani mee caucasian brother cheppinattu unnaru
Idi devinavaratrulappudu post chesanu - chadavandi-konni exceerpts from the write-up http://vedicmythologyetal.blogspot.com/2007/09/whenever-we-h ear-of-stories-of-divine.html The Goddesses in Religion...!!! whenever we hear of stories of the divine feminine, there this great sense of unconquerable power. Frequently we see Brahma or Shiva giving a boon and getting in trouble because it empowers the demon who in turn comes backs and torments the Gods and Demi-Gods with his new found power. We also hear Shiva or Vishnu having to win a battle purely by tickery or deception. But with the Goddess it is difficult to think of an example of a mistake, with the possible exception of Sita's desire for the golden deer. The goddess is always right, always direct and she never loses a battle. Bhandasura attacked Indra and took over the heavens. Indra prayed to Tripura Sundari for 60000 years and she agreed to help him. She took her army and waged a war against Bhandasura. Now Tripura Sundari is also known as lalita meaning soft and beautiful. So Bhandasura laughed on her saying she is beautiful and soft and battle and war is not something that she should be doing. The battle between Bhandasura and Tripura Sundari was most unusual. It wasn't a direct battle. Bhandasura created demons and Tripura Sundari created deities that destroyed the demons. Bhandasura created hiranyakashipu and she created prahlada and Narasimha. Bhandasura created Ravana and she created Rama. In fact the Vishnu's 10 incarnations "Dashavatara" are also known to be born from the 10 fingernails of the divine Tripura Sundari. Bhandasura created mahishasura and She created durga. The battle between Mahishasura and Durga has been beautifully described in the brahmana purana. Finally Tripura Sundari kills Bhanda and Rati, wife of Kamadeva or Bhanda pleads to her to restore his life. Because Kamadeva is the lord of desire and without him there would be no desire. So she in her infinite divinity and kindness restores the life back into Kamadeva in the Dwapara yuga. The no. "3" is closely associated to Tripura Sundari. .g. she is the icha shakti (will), gyana shakti(wisdom) and kriya shakti(action) in this entire eternity. Her other name is lalita which according to one script has 8 meanings: beauty, brilliance, manifestation, sweetness, infinity, energy, grace and generosity. Women have been described as the manifestation of perfection in our own ancient scripts. They have been the source of all power the medium of creation.  Most old religions had a Goddess culture before they were overlaid with the male God culture aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Shawshank Junior Artist Username: Shawshank Post Number: 727 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 67.162.26.157 Rating: N/A |
Namaste anna, always in ROM prior to this stint here! Nataraja swaami jatajooti loki cherakunte .. viruchuku padu sura gangaku viluvemundi .... http://lkadvani.in/ BJP ko vote do .. Bharat ko bachao .. | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 4923 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
mothanki maatho disco ante dimak kharab ani decide chesinavu po..  | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 776 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.226.107 Rating: N/A |
Shawshank brother.. whats your old ID? | ||
| Shawshank Junior Artist Username: Shawshank Post Number: 726 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 67.162.26.157 Rating: N/A |
welcome back .. gud posts to start with .. sometimes with that tinge of humor! Nataraja swaami jatajooti loki cherakunte .. viruchuku padu sura gangaku viluvemundi .... http://lkadvani.in/ BJP ko vote do .. Bharat ko bachao .. | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 775 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.226.107 Rating: N/A |
aedki polede.. ooke dimaak kharab endkani jara dooramgunti... | ||
| Cocanada Side Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 5077 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.17 Rating: N/A |
Meeru adigina link idigo nassim haramein  | ||
| Mallik Comedian Username: Mallik Post Number: 1743 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 69.45.100.129 Rating: N/A |
Iamim maayya.. hinni dinaal edki poinave? In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 773 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.226.107 Rating: N/A |
Sopathi is my Caucasian Brother.. he is the blood of my blood.. though he may vociferously deny... | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 772 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.226.107 Rating: N/A |
Something like God made Man in His image.. anyway.. what would a feminist say instinctively.. 'Oh my God' or 'Oh my Goddess'/ 'O Devuda' or 'O Devatha'..??? Even leaving feminists aside.. what about females who make half of Human population.. how do they feel about these Caucasian Male Gods Lording over.. no matter what religion.. That way is Hinduism the BEST when it comes to Gender as it has Godesses to fall upon.. If so why are Hindus fighting shy to project this wonderful USP to atleast convert the feminists/non Caucasians of this world.. Feminists of the World Unite.. you have nothing to lose but your Lording Male Chauvinist Caucasian Gods... | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1876 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.216.128.11 Rating: N/A |
Iamim, Rofl- caucasian male gods - calling Sopathi ani thread veyochu ga emiti ee angling aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1875 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.216.128.8 Rating: N/A |
Iamim, Nothing surprising - man defines God in his own image - the image has to be something he can identify with...else it does not work... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 771 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.226.107 Rating: N/A |
Caucasian Male God Rocks.. Hindu.. Zoroastrian.. Judaism.. Islam.. Christian.. Buddhist.. Jain.. Sikh.. all Male Gods are Caucasians.. like us.. Aham Brahmasmi.. God in every Blood of my Blood.. God in every Word of my Word.. God in every Deed of my Deed..  | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 770 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.226.107 Rating: N/A |
Digging a bit deeper.. how about the Caste of God creating pinch? Vaisya affinity towards Vasavi.. Yadav affinity towards Krishna.. Gowd affinity towards Renuka.. There are many more lesser village Goddesses for various Castes.. | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 4920 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
Elca..prathi thread lo ee movie disco ravalsinde ..antavu..atu economy revive cheyyali anna..itu devudini define cheyyali anna | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 10705 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 206.228.222.37 Rating: N/A |
its a good movie...  enni saarlu soosina bore kottadhu | ||
| Cocanada Side Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 5076 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.17 Rating: N/A |
i think pyramids of egypt, hawaii and some mayan temples | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1874 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Not really - but surely would be interested in the link - what are the other points of the tetrahedron ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Cocanada Side Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 5075 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.17 Rating: N/A |
Hercules too much candidate asala....i miss his posts . | ||
| Cocanada Side Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 5074 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.17 Rating: N/A |
Meeru Dakini temples gurinchi idea undaa Monna oka documentary (more of a speech) chusanu. if earth is a sphere and we embed a tetrahedron inside it, one of the points we get is dakini temples near mumbai meeku interest unte link istanu video di . | ||
| Getafix Comedian Username: Getafix Post Number: 1185 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
kaadu bedhar | ||
| Mallik Comedian Username: Mallik Post Number: 1740 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 69.45.100.129 Rating: N/A |
Chiru movie lo dialogue gurthokochhindi andy gaaru.. Anni nadulu enni paravallu thokkinaa, aakhariki kalisedi samudram lo ne.. Samudram ni 'Samudrudu' antaaru kaani 'Samudri' anaru..  Male Gods Rokzzzz.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 10703 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 206.228.222.37 Rating: N/A |
nenu devils advocate soosinappati nundi saithan fan iyyanu God eppudu manusulni judge sestha untadu saithan kurrod will accept for watever we r.....kikiki | ||
| Cocanada Side Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 5073 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.17 Rating: N/A |
Southpark lo god is a cow Jesus father ni earth meeda ki pilustaadu. Cow ostadi. Jesus "father.." ani pilavagaane janaalu andariki mind block avuddi.... sachanu navvaleka | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1873 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Thanks you made my day Actually monna thread lone cheppanu, I am partial to the feminine God - for me God is the Divine mother in her many forms ani... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Side Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 2481 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
tammudu nuvvu hercules A na?? Ekkado munigi ikkada tela | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Side Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 2480 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
Endo ee godava akkada God Aryano Dravidian inga telaledu , he/she telaledu Madhyalo nalupa telupa/browna ani questioning sesi naake metal torture teppistunnarga.. Nirvikara nirupa(du?) ani set ayithe better Ekkado munigi ikkada tela | ||
| Getafix Comedian Username: Getafix Post Number: 1177 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
ide point ni Kevin smith gadu thana movie "Dogma" lo kummesaadu.. apostles are black and god is a woman ..climax lo Alanis morisette god laga prathyaksham ayithadi. Jay meeves gaadu Alanis morisette ni chusi God is neither male nor female ani antaad.. hillarious  | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 568 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
ee maata ante inka janaalu..  the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 769 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.226.107 Rating: N/A |
Na na.. I suppose he looked more like Osama Bin Ladin... | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 567 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
I am doing good. I just threw the black statement, to show how the race and color of God does create some kind of pinch to few people, in line with your earlier statement. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 566 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
african black ane mama, middle eastern countries lo kooda chala mandhi nalla vaalu untaaru. ofcourse there is no concrete proof or anything. mostly people agree that he might be like a typical middle eastern looking person. aa discussions lo evado may be he looks like saddam annaadu... okkokkadiki ekkadooo kaalindhi... the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 765 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.226.107 Rating: N/A |
MS garu, thanks.. bavunnara? Jesus being a black is possibly part of the Afrocentric folklore.. more plausibly.. per conventional wisdom.. Jesus was of middle eastern ethnicity(Caucasian).. | ||
| Cocanada Side Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 5071 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.17 Rating: N/A |
when they black, they mean brown or african black? italians are called half black because they look a little like middle eastern . | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 565 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
mama, i can try to dig through, alot of people strongly advocate is he not white, israelites, egyptians aa time lo whites leru ani antaaru. idhi kooda chala mandhiki mingudu padadhu. then if he is not white, what he could be ani arguments unnaayi. chala mandhi advocate that he might be black. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mallik Comedian Username: Mallik Post Number: 1732 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 69.45.100.129 Rating: N/A |
Coke: nallollu esus nallodu antaru.. konni synmals la chooshnaa.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Cocanada Side Hero Username: Cocanada Post Number: 5069 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 136.181.195.17 Rating: N/A |
 link please | ||
| Mallik Comedian Username: Mallik Post Number: 1731 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 69.45.100.129 Rating: N/A |
 In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 563 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
thank you, it was not for discussion i wanted to read his views for a pretty long time now, but couldnt.
Iamim garu, ela unnaaru? Alot of people now believe jesus must be black... its funny that it irks alot of people. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 764 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 118.94.226.107 Rating: N/A |
Ah.. God Himself has been archived.. BTW.. is it 'Him' or 'Her'.. how do feminists feel about God being Male in all major religions.. God being a Caucasian in all major religions... how can the race and gender of God inspire confidence... | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1872 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.216.128.6 Rating: N/A |
Just ensuring the thread does not get archived aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1870 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
MS, Concept of God thread lo Vivekananda views gurinchi adigaru ... thought of posting this link there and then forgot... Not sure if you were looking for his views or a discussion thereof... If its his views , here's a link to his complete works ... http://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/complete_ works.htm Specific ga Concept of God gurinchi Volume 3 , Chaper 2 Bhakti Yoga lo section undi - The Philosphy of Ishwara http://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_3/ vol_3_frame.htm aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
