| Author | Message | ||
     Basky_indya Hero Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 13620 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 65.30.78.134 Rating: N/A |
already oka commision explain chesindu. IT WAS A SPLIT-SECOND decision, their main intention was to to chase the guys and engage them at startegic point. mY Telugu Divine www.gurugeetha.blogspot.com | ||
| Telugu_times Hero Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 10071 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10 Rating: N/A |
Asalu mugguru senior police officers, same vehicle lo undatam, koncham surprising. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 529 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
karkare's incident was a blunder. the only reason i could think of is that police did not know what they were dealing with. they thought once police comes into picture, the miscreants would run away, they did not expect a confrontation. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 4907 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
This guy ( a Major in the army also has similar opinions) What is being publicised in media is ATS chief Hemant Karkare’s heroism. God bless his soul. But for a senior officer to be running around inappropriately equipped and protected, may well be excessive zeal and not bravery. Here, I would like to say that I sincerely hope our government would actually equip our police and armed forces better. Karkare died simply because he was not wearing an appropriate bullet-proof vest. Very sad indeed. Moreover, Karkare went to the spot on an impulse, not knowing much about the threat. He did not fire a single shot and he and his colleagues were vulnerable targets for the terrorists. No doubt, a very honest and efficient officer, Karkare became an easy prey. Unfortunately, his vehicle was then used by the terrorists for further mayhem. Karkare would have been of immense value sitting in the control room and directing the operation with his wide knowledge and experience. India needed him — and all others who died in that ordeal — to live, not die. We have a tendency to give such deaths a halo of “martyrdom.” The same thing happened in Kabul, when our embassy was attacked. The IFS officer and Brigadier Ravi Datt Mehta got the highest awards for bravery. Was it really bravery? Or were they just unfortunate because their car was blown up? While the officers made a supreme sacrifice, it was not really gallantry. But yes, they died in harness and must be duly recognised, and their kith and kin looked after. Innocent people sitting in trains also die in bomb blasts. Hundreds of people died inside the Taj and Trident hotels. They would never get gallantry awards. The staff at the Taj and Trident, we are told, did an exemplary job protecting and guiding guests, and many even laid down their lives. Their sagas of courage remain unsung. The government and the media need to draw a line somewhere and recognise the difference between raw courage beyond the call of duty and death on duty. Due to this reason, the real valour and grit of Major Unnikrishnan, and Hav Rajbir and others will be eclipsed. They actually gave their lives in the face of active fire and a visible enemy. The time has come for India to awaken. Let us savour our 61 years of Independence. The time has come, to remind ourselves that we have been invaded and ruled for 800 years earlier. | ||
| Okatelugodu Side Hero Username: Okatelugodu Post Number: 2535 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.43.48.131 Rating: N/A |
Also NSG was raised as a anti-terror unit but gradually their primary task became VIP security. T aj type operation Kashmir lo pani chese battallions ki rojuu alavate...ea search & cordon operations. Vallu baga chestaru. Grenadiors were brought in but vallani vadukoledu..I wonder why? Hostage situaiton NSG baga deal chestarani emo.. | ||
| Okatelugodu Side Hero Username: Okatelugodu Post Number: 2534 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.43.48.131 Rating: N/A |
Vallakunna equipment tho inka fast ga chesevallemo. Nenu cheppedi adey vere shortcomings anni vadilesi NSG vallani evvaru anna thappe. | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 4887 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
CIA vaadu AC room lo kookoni enni aina septhadu...Tellalistu ...enni kilola AR DI EX thecharu ..hotel lo ekkada pettadu ..anedi munde announce chesinda...cheyyale kada.. | ||
| Okatelugodu Side Hero Username: Okatelugodu Post Number: 2528 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.43.48.131 Rating: N/A |
How difficult is this operation I do not know but Fox lo oka CIA vadu cheppadu. "I know it's difficult given the hostage situation and size of the hotel but it's not "3 nights 2 days difficult" annadu. May be true for the equipment that's here but given the limitation of NSG guys, I for one will not crticise, but will appreciate them for their efforts. | ||
| Okatelugodu Side Hero Username: Okatelugodu Post Number: 2527 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.43.48.131 Rating: N/A |
Also one thing that came out in the last couple of days was that the terrorists were using human bodies as booby traps. Keeping grenades under bodies lying in Taj so that they will blow when someone moves the body. It was difficult for NSG guys to sanitize this, so it took considerable amount of their time ani chepparu. | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 10630 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 206.228.222.39 Rating: N/A |
terrorists will always have upperhand man...they dont have humanity Batman movie lo Joker has no rules....so he spreads anarchy.... Batman has set of rules and values....so he has to fight till climax to control joker But unfortunately in real life batmans wont prevail....either they end up as jokers or they die | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 4876 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
I am sure we will ...we always had the brains to do that...we just needed a wakeup call... and I think it is this.. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 516 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
sadly true, there might be more than 10 reasons, but we did let it happen. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Bicchapathi Comedian Username: Bicchapathi Post Number: 1827 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 141.158.20.2 Rating: N/A |
Final ga emotions play chestai.. Terrorist chanipoyaru.. jai barathmatha. Kaani y terrorist had upper hand ane daani mida no answers.. Murder cheste ne Puli, Kabja cheste Tiger .. Ivanni chesina vade Mukyamanthri kavadaniki arhudu ante.. Ma annayya chiru Raktham panchi, Manchi mansutho Mukyamanthri ayyi Tiger anipinchukutadu chudandi | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 513 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
lots of unknowns, hope our systems learns from this carnage. hope they get better. Asalu aa vests evaru supply chesaaro. it seems one constable died coz the bullet went through his helmet. such sad state of our infrastructure. helmet ivvaka pothe kaneesam dhakkoni anna protect chesukune vaadu. idhi dhaarunam ayina mosam. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 512 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
mama, i am glad you are asking questions that need an answer. even i am not sure why it was decided that hostage situation lo antha aggressive ga deal cheyyaali ani. this might be lack of proper communication between GOI and the NSG heads. ilanti cases lo general ga panic mode lo decisions theesukoru but ikkada emayindhoo naaku ardham kavatledhu. but one point to note is, were the terrorists holding any hostages, at all, or were they just killing everybody without the intention of holding some of the hostage to escape. it seems a lady on visit from singapore was made to call her husband in singapore, and ask the indian GOI. but by the time this reached to indian GOI, the lady was killed by the terrorists. so what happened there anedhi kooda naaku ardham kaledhu. according to a witness who was saved, later confirms that the terrorists were talking to someone over the phone and they were following their instructions. i hope someday, someone can reconstruct the entire story. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 4871 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
With great respect to the departed souls... I have questioned this earlier too..with no response.. 3 Highly ranked Police Officials going in one car..that too..to visit an injured colleague..when the city was burning..due to the terrorist hostage...I would rather prefer them doing strategic planning and stay indoors and make sure the plans are executedand let the hospital take care of injured | ||
| Bicchapathi Comedian Username: Bicchapathi Post Number: 1826 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 141.158.20.2 Rating: N/A |
Sorry NSG are not served for what they mean for Murder cheste ne Puli, Kabja cheste Tiger .. Ivanni chesina vade Mukyamanthri kavadaniki arhudu ante.. Ma annayya chiru Raktham panchi, Manchi mansutho Mukyamanthri ayyi Tiger anipinchukutadu chudandi | ||
| Bicchapathi Comedian Username: Bicchapathi Post Number: 1825 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 141.158.20.2 Rating: N/A |
Mental babai.. Ikkada Nenu annadi ade.. I don have any hate on NSG.. We had many hostages this time including foreigners. Y fight was not towards saving life? Adi major question ippatiki na mind lo undi.. ippatiki teliyani question. hostages were killed before NSG arrived or after NSG arrived.. After NSG arrived ante. NSG are served for what they made for. NSG adi cheyyakunte Army ki NSG ki there is no difference.. ARmy ayina eshi dobbe vallu.. Black cat ani pere pettindi Hostage situation lo vallu chese tricks ki.. Nannu tittakandi.. just my questions Murder cheste ne Puli, Kabja cheste Tiger .. Ivanni chesina vade Mukyamanthri kavadaniki arhudu ante.. Ma annayya chiru Raktham panchi, Manchi mansutho Mukyamanthri ayyi Tiger anipinchukutadu chudandi | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 510 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
mama NSG follows the commands they are given to them, they do not take any decision by themselves. it seems the discussions that they were just to kill the terrorists. also if you look at question 4, they were not given equipment to break through walls and bombs to kill them all? this is a question among many NSG why they are not allowed to do that. apparently same happend in akshardham also and they have expressed the same concern back then too. I would agree with you on the value of life of a hostage, mari mana vallu endhuku ala decide ayyaro. definetly they are trained in hostage situations. this is what happened on 15 July 1999: /b{NSG commandos end a 30-hour standoff by killing 2 terrorists and rescuing all 12 hostages unharmed. The terrorists had attacked a BSF campus, killed 3 officers and the wife of an other. The 12 hostages were kept locked in a room. The NSG arrived the previous evening and positioned themselves around the apartment complex. At one point two militants tried to crawl out and one was shot dead. The other managed to crawl back. Finally at around 5:00 in the morning the NSG assaulted the apartment. The terrorists managed to move to another room, allowing the NSG to release all 12 hostages. At around 8:00 a.m., a 84mm rocket was fired into the roof of the room, collapsing it and killing one militant.} the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 509 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
can you comprehend our dire situations, Top cop Hemant Karkare donned a bullet proof jacket minutes after this picture was taken on the night he was killed. But he still died from injuries to his chest Slain encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar had 59 encounter killings to his credit. He was always in the line of fire, yet, he never wore a bulletproof jacket. It was no different when he was mowed down in Wednesday's terror attacks. But it wasn't the absence of a bulletproof (BP) vest that killed him. Officers close to him believe, he would have died even if he had worn the vest as they provide no defence against AK-56 and AK-47 gun fire the weapons used by the militants in Mumbai's terror attacks. "In 2004, samples of these vests were sent for a trial at the firing range of the State Reserve Police Force (SRPF). They were fitted on dummies, [as is the practice] and sprayed with AK-47 bullets and bullets from self-loading rifles (SLR). Every single bullet went through the jackets even though the rounds were fired from a distance," a senior police official revealed, on condition of anonymity. Sub-standard vests A report was sent and an inquiry was ordered by the Home Department. The file was returned to the police with a remark "improved consignment will be sent before the next supply". However, MiD DAY has learnt, that despite assurance what was delivered were the sub-standard BP vests. Salaskar was among the few officers aware that an inquiry was pending against these vests. He is also learnt to have approached the court, through a PIL, questioning the use of these vests. And so, since he never trusted the quality of the vests, he never wore them not once during the 59 encounters he carried on. Like many others in the force, Additional CP Ashok Kamte and ATS Chief Hemant Karkare had no idea of such a probe. Both died due to SLR bullet injuries the bullets had penetrated their vests. Another probe Former IPS officer and now lawyer, Y P Singh, who quit the Mumbai police disgusted by the alleged corruption within, squarely blames what he describes this as a "major cartel run by two or three agents. These agents get products manufactured in cottage industries and supply it to the government. "Equipment worth more than Rs 100 crore are procured each year under the name of police modernisation," Singh pointed out. The Anti Corruption Department (ACB) had received another inquiry from the Home Department related to the procurement of sub-standard bullet proof jackets and 9 mm live rounds and SLR magazines. While the jackets were found weak, the bullets did not fit into the weapons. It was found that the bullet proof jackets were procured from two unknown manufactures (T K Industry and Samsun). It was cleared by an agent. Inquiries revealed that the jackets did not meet the required specifications and they did not get the clearance of the Defence Research Development Organisation, a statutory body for clearing arms and ammunition. "I prepared a 100-page report. It never saw the light of the day," said an official of the ACB, who has since resigned. Said ACB DG, S Chakraborty, "I have recently taken over the new post. I cannot comment, but I will look into the matter." What's wrong? The Mumbai police have been using armour, which is about 42 inches long. It is supposed to be covered with special cloth and special wire mesh, but the specifications are rarely met. The steel plates are often corroded resulting in failure to stop with normal masses of 8 grams velocity. The wire mesh is found to be less than 10 gauge, which often fails when a shotgun fires. The US services use Type III which can withstand 7.62. 9 mm carbine and even grenade shrapnel. The wire mesh protects from 12 gauge rifle shots. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Bicchapathi Comedian Username: Bicchapathi Post Number: 1824 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 141.158.20.2 Rating: N/A |
Babai.. edi emaina. NSG were prepared for dealing the situation in better way.. hostages chanipotharu ani telisinaka.. oo rendu bombs eshi dobbithe pothadi.. akkada hostage kante valuable emi ledu.. TAJ hotel antha value na? I say one hostage life alsom much much more value than total Taaj.. Nenu NSG ni point enduku chestunnanu ante. NSG hostagel life ela save cheyyali ane dani mida years training istaru..they are trained for that. Aaadi maaku eee attacks lo kanipiyyaledu Murder cheste ne Puli, Kabja cheste Tiger .. Ivanni chesina vade Mukyamanthri kavadaniki arhudu ante.. Ma annayya chiru Raktham panchi, Manchi mansutho Mukyamanthri ayyi Tiger anipinchukutadu chudandi | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 4869 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
amayakulani vadileyandi..do not try to argue with them..no use | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 508 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
mama i agree with all of you, my intention of this thread was to show that NSG and police who have fought, are not at fault. our policy against terrorism and in fact anything concerning the security of our nation is terrible. the reason i posted here is there are some people who have posted on the performance of our NSG as a troop, not just the policy. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Bicchapathi Comedian Username: Bicchapathi Post Number: 1823 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 141.158.20.2 Rating: N/A |
Babai.. Some police men just fought without proper weapon. Some police men stood infront of Ak47. One terrorist ni live ga pattukunnadu ante 4 to 5 police men without sophisticated training and weapons fight chesinanduke.. mana police ni upgrade chesi manchiga sophisticated cheste NSG.. Army ravalisina avasaramledu.. I say Police are heros.. NSG were trained and given much better weapons. Murder cheste ne Puli, Kabja cheste Tiger .. Ivanni chesina vade Mukyamanthri kavadaniki arhudu ante.. Ma annayya chiru Raktham panchi, Manchi mansutho Mukyamanthri ayyi Tiger anipinchukutadu chudandi | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 10620 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 206.228.222.39 Rating: N/A |
The solution is simple boss.... Either India acknowledges and appreciated the effect of terrorism....Assign a new org to deal with it...this org is not answerable to anyone....if the opposition leaders and minority lickers complain about this org ..this org dont even have to respond...they should be shieled from pressure created by all these wolves.... But the flipside of this coin is ...the human rights will take back seat for a while...people will go missing...families will go missing...just like in punjab....but look at punjab now.... Or Deal with situation...continue licking.... flipside for this approach is these blasts once in 2 years.... | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 4866 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
MS, we Indians are not used to strategic planning...and you can see this again.. when I strategic planning..combining resources from so many other departments and having a planned co-ordinated effort in case of a national emergency.. If there is war...the solutions are limited..so it is plain and simple... But if it is counter insurgency or a terrorist attack like this...where it requires multi-pronged attack and co-ordination from Political/Police/Army/Navy/Black Cat/NSG/IAF..it was not there.. The fact that NSG commandoes had to wait for buses at the airport just to go to the problem area...shows lack of basic co-ordination... it is not something in our psyche...it takes years of practice to build that into the armed/fighting forces...so don't expect anything to happen...in the near future | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 506 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
Mama, I agree, but the government declared that there will be no negotiations, and i guess thats the decision they have made after the afganisthan fiasco. It was decided in parliament that there will be no negotiations what so ever in terrorist hostage situations. Though its unfortunate that is what they going to stick too, until this decision is changed again. Nariman house lo the jews were killed before the NSG went it, this also is in conjuncture with the nanny of the kid, who got escaped. she escaped before the NSG went in, and she informed the police and media, that the parents of the kids and 3 or 5 others(not sure), were lying on the ground, and she doesnt know if they are dead or unconscious. later it was confirmed that they were already dead. Hostage situation lo ela deal cheyyalo evari country has its own way of dealing it with mama, Israel doesnt negotiate. US doesnt negotiate if they understand the killers are suicidal. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Bicchapathi Comedian Username: Bicchapathi Post Number: 1821 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 141.158.20.2 Rating: N/A |
Ikkada question are raising only becoz no hostage was saved. That is the main confusing point. There were almost 30 hostages before NSG entered in to the Taj and Narman house. One thing is sure. Govt was decided not to negotiate with terrorist. NSG was given order to Kill directly. Usuall ga hostage situation unte .. chaala careful ga handle cheyyali ani world exception chetundi..adi jaragaledu.. Murder cheste ne Puli, Kabja cheste Tiger .. Ivanni chesina vade Mukyamanthri kavadaniki arhudu ante.. Ma annayya chiru Raktham panchi, Manchi mansutho Mukyamanthri ayyi Tiger anipinchukutadu chudandi | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 10617 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 206.228.220.37 Rating: N/A |
nopthing wrong with commitment of NSG folks....anyone questions their commitment are not patriots.... The problem is the infrastrucutre and the administration responsible for that.... NSG did more than wat anyopne can ask for with their limited resources.... But at the end of the not even one hostage who was under the terrorist grip was not alive....except that muslim couple.... | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 505 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
my concern is there are the exact questions we have been having here, we discussed about these. but those NSG who fought also have the same questions, but they did their job without any showing any -ve feeling, that shows you their commitment and courage. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Junior Artist Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 504 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
After seeing so many questions about the capability of our NSG and commandos, i feel i want to share a piece of an NSG who fought in the attack. these are discussions between NSG and various army jawans, I am not posting the entire discussion but of the NSG's questions that he posted recently. it makes you wonder how they are not in a different place than we are, here are the questions, /b{Mumbai is known to be target for terrorists. Now look at this:- First terrorist shots were fired at Taj and Oberoi at around 9.30-10pm. Marcos reached around 4am in morning in Taj (while they did nothing in Oberoi EVEN AFTER reaching) and NSG got into operation around 8am after 11 hours of first incident. Now point is what the Mumbai Police, its CP and DGP were doing from 10pm to 4am that is 6 hours when killings were going on in the heart of city i.e. before they could pass the blame to MARCOS/NSG. I ask the assh*les in power-that after sad demise of ATS personnel, were there no other person to take command? Governor House and all city politicians live within shouting distance of Taj, what were they doing, why additional armed police teams could not be sent from Police HQ or why commandoes attached to security of say, Governor House 5 min away, did not respond? 1. Why should the heads of Police CP, DGP & local SHOs not roll? How many AKs rifles were there in Mumbai Police and how were they deployed or distributed? Mumbai Police especially DGP, CP, Deputy CM, CM have to explain movements between 9pm to 4pm which are full 7 hours! 2. Where were Taj security guards? Could such a big Hotel on terrorist hit list not hire retired commandoes? When did Taj call police? 3. Why did NSG move to airport and city by BEST Buses? Wasting 2 hours in Delhi /Mumbai, where was the co-ordination to get IAF Helos? Note-This issue of delay was raised in Akshardham also! 4. Why NSG was not armed with guns to shoot through walls? (like short barreled shot guns firing explosive rounds)Note-This issue was raised in Akshardham also! 5. When NSG was called, why was IAF not called simultaneously to get helos/aircraft for fast movement? 6. Why there was no beat officer patrolling the sea coast, which should be normal? In Mumbai a person cannot go five steps without running into cops! 7. Only 2 Prahars were deployed by Navy till 4pm which is only 8x2=16 men, Mumbai is important navy port, so is that the only persons they had? Isn’t there a naval colony in Colaba itself which is right at the site of tragedy? Don’t the naval ships routinely dock near Gateway i.e. Taj? What was the exact time they were called (12am-1pm) and why is it that they could only respond after 4 hours with only 16 persons while being just a few hundred meters being away? 8. Why has the bureaucracy read Cabinet secretary not developed a co-ordination for quick response from Services in time of crisis? Why his personal permission is required? Why should he be not dismissed for responding slow? Why did whole of naval staff not act faster and with more men? Mumbai is heart of navy & Colaba / gateway is in the middle of heart, why did they respond with so few men and so slow? Why more commandoes could not come from IA & IAF who also have stations not more than an hour away? What would have happened if the attack had taken place say in Aurangabad, would they brass/nsg/police respond after one week? 9. What is the amount of training a police cop gets for firing his weapon? I think one round per year on average! This is in Bombay city with budget of city alone of 10,000 crores rupees per annum i.e. apart from lakhs of crores collected in the city for central and state taxes. Yes get it –the city alone generates few Billion dollars in taxes and Capitalization of Bombay stock market is more than the National GDP!! Why could not 10,000 Insas rifle be procured and cops trained on them? Cost only Rs. 20 crores!!!!!! 10. What has been done to destroy Dawood links in Cricket, film industry etc. Are not local politicians, police still heavily involved with known Dawood agents? 11. Why this issue of bomb blasts in taxi, more terrorists and local support is being downplayed? 12. Antony is reputed to be honest but is he competent? Has his indecision has delayed all procurement contracts of all services? 13. Is Chidambaram honest or has he been kicked upstairs for playing stock market and lining his (son’s) nest while not listening to anybody else (read not sharing the booty)? 14. Note- I think all those leaks to show that there was adequate intelligence is I think to protect some top brass which I think can only be NSA himself. 15. We were indirectly told that we should take quietly all the terrorist attacks as MMS does not want to de-rail nuke deal but what action he wants to take now? Why should not MMS, PC & Antony also resign and pave way for other sycophants, after all they should also get an opportunity! 16. Service Brass always blames politicians; the point is are they ready today? The last point of time any overt military action can be taken Pakistan is Jan 2009! 17. Why should we not mobilize, force Pakistan to draw away forces from North west front and then fund anti-pak jihadists, why not increase budget of RAW by say Rs. 10,000 crores for Pakistan de-stabilization alone? After all de-stabilized Pakistan cannot be worse than this. Soviet Union was also a nuclear power but was dismantled, after all! While NSG, Mumbai lower level personnel may have been good and acted bravely, their brass has to answer lot of questions! If possible please forward these questions to journalists we know so that they can be asked by media to (politicians &) bureaucrats, considering that bureaucrats are all going to escape. If we going to go to war, then we may have to live with these assh*les but if not then I say fire:- 1. NSA 2. Cabinet secretary 3. Home secretary 4. RAW head 5. IB Head 6. Mumbai DGP- a cry baby who looks like a gay and wants to hide his incompetence behind dead Mumbai Cops 7. Mumbai CP 8. Mumbai local SHOs 9. Coast Guard head (NSG and Service chiefs should be asked to account for slow response, as of now the blame seems somewhere else but some reasons for delay are rumours and not open source, so I cannot post it!)}} the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
